#tim and bruce

[shyjusticewarrior]

I think the "Bruce is a good dad" convo misses out on how different children can get different dads even when it's the same guy.

Jason doesn't get the same dad. When Bruce flings Tim over a disagreement, it's a sign that he's worse than before and somethings up. When he does it to Jason, it's a Tuesday.

[timmydraker]

Love the idea of Tim being the only one who can actually lie to Bruce, but have you considered Bruce who always knows Tim is lying and just… can’t get himself to do anything about it?

Hear me out, arguably these two are the most similar if you ignore certain concepts like being an orphan and (in most universes) seeing death at a young age. They are both raised in rich wealth in a big, lonely house (yes even with Alfred there he was still a teenage boy with no siblings or parents), both have critical thinking minds and insatiable curiosity and have reputations for being players and are both CEO’s and owners of massive companies.

So when Tim lies to Bruce, two things happen.

One, he can’t help but feel like a hypocrite because how many times did he lie to Alfred? Or even Dick and Clark? He’s still doing it! Bruce is a secret keeper and when you have someone who’s just as good at you at lying, in some ways better, it’s hard to feel confident in calling them out.

Two, he wants Tim to be more than him, to not be so bitter and lonely as he was because Tim had actual friends and half of his lies are for his friends or to spent time with them (even if that’s in the middle of a fight). When he sees Tim stare at him unflinching while he lies about stealing a bio weapon, all he sees is his little boy trying to cover that he was hanging out with his friends doing something naughty.

Bruce sees a cat giving him wide eyes and a little purr with claws still digging into his wrist and folds like a napkin.

He badly wants his son to be honest with him about things, but since he figures it out so quickly, he can convince himself Tim is telling him just in a… overly complicated and deceptive way!

When the others notice it drives them insane.

Then there’s the third reason, the one he can’t admit to himself, which is how guilty he feels for making Tim talk him out of suicide and murder at just thirteen years old.

The part of him that knows that Tim has still spent more time being a parent for Bruce than Bruce has for Tim.

The part of him that knows he’s failed all his kids, but he used Tim.

[razzledazzle0]

mosquito

Tim: A mosquito tried to bite me and I slapped it and killed it

Tim: And I started thinking

Tim: Like it was just trying to get food

Tim: What if I went to the fridge and i just slammed the door shut and snapped my neck

Tim: How would I feel?

Bruce tired and worried dad noises: are you okay??

[thewaynesandassociates]

COMMUNICATION BITCH

no but seriously, i've seen a whole lot of people bitching about how bruce was being an 'abusive parent' in the latest episodes but people tend to forget how trauma affects so many people in so many different ways. yeah b should go to therapy, and yeah what he said to his kids was not okay, but that doesn't make him abusive and not fit to be a parent. he's doing the best he can and he's trying to protect them. i'm just glad he finally explained it and i'm glad that he's starting to communicate more.

[livsoulsecrets]

Batfam + References to being family (Part 16)

Part 15

Catwoman #45

Selina says to Dick she’s his “almost stepmother” and refers to the batkids as “too noble” in Catwoman #45:

Bruce in Batman #127: “I think of Dick, Tim… Jason… Damian. Legacy. My sons.”

(It’s a bummer there’s no Cass mention here ugh)

Dick to Jon in Nightwing Annual 2022: “I know what it’s like to avoid your dad after something went wrong on patrol.”

Bruce to Tim when he gets shot in Batman #125: “Hold on, son.”

Bruce in Batman #127: “Tim isn’t my soldier! He’s my son!”

In Titans Beast World #6, Bruce’s first question is if he hurt Dick when he regained control of his body. Dick tells him “What’s a light mauling between family?”

Bruce in Batman #132: “I had boys back home who never stopped eating.”

Bruce in Batman #132, while he’s trapped in a different Earth: “I miss my sons.”

Part 17

[frogaroundandfindout]

Bruce hallucinates Tim’s funeral where he (?), dick, Ollie, and Clark carry the coffin. He admits he kept Tim at an arms length to try and avoid the hurt of losing him too.

Batman #673

[haruu-luv]

does anyone know of any fics where batfam or maybe even just tim or bruce realizing how codependent the two of them are (tim and bruce)

like i KNOW its not canon but like it just seems like such good angst tbh

those fics where tim disappears for one reason or another? almost always have bruce atleast half put together and figureing it out. i want a story where tim goes mia like he did for brucequest again, the batfam upset but still functioning because he did it in the past. they were ready to deal with this, but bruce? they werent ready to deal with bruce. his emotional support child is gone. he cant figure out how to fix it, hes panicking under his calm face and his family can tell.

[batfambrainrotbeloved]

The Drakes Spoiled Brat (im sorry dad) has updated!!

Name: As above Rating: General Audiences Chapter: 3/?? Word count: 10,329 Relationships: Just batfam and a few outside dc connections, not ship focused Summary: Tim as Red Robin post time stream and Batfamily breakdown dies on a solo mission, only to wake up in his time 13 years in the past. Only a month after the Graysons death. Tim develops Cardinal, a new underground Vigilante even the bats see as a mere shadow of the night. and "Timothy Drake" aka an asshole version of "Brucie Wayne" to prevent people from looking below the surface. But theres only so long he can keep up the ruse before people get suspicous and begin to draw their own conclusions. So Tim now must overcome life alone, with his now ex family just next door. (Will have shenanigans and eventual Happy ending dont worry)

[justafanaticalhuman]

incorrect batfam quote

Batman (depressed): *smiles at Tim for .5 of a second*

Tim: This is great. I'm going to get a good grade in being an emotional support child to The Batman, something that is both normal to want and possible to achieve.

[izukuer]

characters have to be a little bit awful in ways that you cant defend. its good for the ecosystem. your honor he did do that. He did in fact do that

[batfambrainrotbeloved]

S O- I was inspired and now I have the first Chapter of this exact scenerio posted.

"The Drakes Spoiled Brat. (im sorry dad)"

Multi-work series- Chapter 1/?? Current Word Count- 4,187 General Audience Rating (I will say the "reveal" chapter I drafted while listening to Yakety Sax on 1.25 speed, its been a blast)

Link posted below-

Time Travel AU: Timothy "Trash" Drake Edition

Tim, to save his family and the world, travels back to when he was a kid. Considering the super powerful shadow organizations that are trying to take over the world (and to prevent his family from becoming targets [or he doesn't trust them. Your pick]), he elects to take on a persona:

Timothy "Trash" Drake.

Instead of the kind, charming, intelligent kid he used to be, Tim methodically mucks up his reputation. He's an asshole, he's self-important, and he's like a typical Gotham Socialite but worse. By 16, he's practically a drunk idiot who's only passing school by the Drake name. He's like Brucie Wayne, but he's hated instead of being a loveable fool.

In the background, he's subtly saved people from their tragic events in the timeline. Drake industries has been booming (try as he might, he couldn't save his parents and became the CEO at 16 as an emancipated minor), and a lot of their funds goes towards better wages and benefits for their employees. Continually, they spend a lot on Gotham infrastructure and social programs. This doesn't match the CEO's arrogant, asshole, and greedy ways. Most assume he's just a figurehead anyway.

The important part to note is that the Waynes hate interacting with him and have a strong dislike for him. They don't know that his demeanor is a persona. Jason, in particular, hates his frivolous, wasteful guts.

Tim has been somewhat successful in mitigating the shadow organization's plans and stopping the world from ending. He's still got a few plans in the works, but he's overall satisfied by what he's accomplished.

Issues start to arise when the Waynes notice contradictions in Timothy Drake's behavior.

Timothy is an asshole who only cares about himself, so why did he give away his coat to someone in need? Sure, he complained that it was of poor quality and not to his standards, but he could've just thrown it away.

Someone else notices that he crashes into the champagne tower when someone was getting harassed at a gala. It was supposedly an accident, but the person was able to get away from the harassment.

Timothy also slapped a homophoic asshole when he kept going on and on about their prejudice. The kid played it off as him being mad at them for stealing his look, but are all of these incidents coincidences?

The final nail in the coffin? Cass goes to her first gala where Tim in in attendance (he has purposefully avoided anywhere she would be). She takes one glance at him, smiles, and then softly says, "Little Brother."

Safe to say everyone promptly looses their shit.

Anyways, I kind of want to see a Trash of the Count's Family AU with Tim Drake

[clingonlikeclingwrap]

“Through the Ages”

[timmydraker]

During a Gala for raising awareness about women’s healthcare, a few heroes show up in both costume and civilian persona.

Wonder Woman is proudly walking around in a Greek style toga and talking about how the women of her home land care for one another and never doubt each others word on health issues. She is shamelessly challenging the men in the audience to better understand the women they claim to love and advocate for.

She’s the most obvious one in attendance, though if you look closer you will see Raven and Miss Martian talking with a the most obviously sexist group of men and making them all sweat bullets.

Others, like Zatana and all of the Bat kids, are in their civilian uniforms.

The most important guest in this line up, in the sense that her husband is making Bruce pout like an angry kitten, is Dinah.

Because Dinah is there to make a speech so naturally her husband Ollie is there to support her.

Yet when the speech is done and the wandering around begins, Bruce watches as Ollie hangs around one person like they’re old pals.

Tim Drake, Bruce’s most professional son during public events, is laughing and clinging to Oliver Queen like he’s some kind of celebrity or cousin he only gets to see once a year. The blond man had his arm around the younger Luke a parent and is chatting away with Tim as the two half talk with business partners and other socialites or so obviously just between themselves that the other people politely leave them to it.

Bruce had never seen Tim so relaxed at a Gala, the growing young man usually taking the time to go full business and organise meetings, deals or just the usual routine of holding reputation.

Yet there is Oliver Queen acting like they’re old friends.

Like Tim is his son.

Naturally, Dick and Barbara notice how Bruce is glaring at Queen and trying to hold back a frown of genuine hurt and jealousy. Part of them feels bad, but Tim and Oliver Queen are both made for this world, so it makes sense they get along in it.

But then Diana, who doesn’t mean any harm and is just talking to Bruce Wayne about how she approves of his work on the ecosystem casually leans down and whispers to him as Batman, “It’s always so nice to see how those two get along.”

Bruce’s eye twitched a little and he doesn’t bother trying to feign curiosity and grumbles out, “explain.”

Wonder Woman laughs loud and cheerful, which the room is now sued to hearing and jsut assume Brucie Wayne is trying to flirt with an Amazon which is not at all surprising.

“Oh, Bruce. Haven’t you noticed how Tim follows Jim’s round whenever they are at the tower? He’s like a little duckling. One time I heard him asking if Ollie wanted to come to his school event to see his science project!”

She goes on to talk about how Ollie must seem like an uncle to him and doesn’t pay attention to Bruce’s internal spiral.

By the end of the night Bruce looks like he might start crying, though only his children can see that.

Tim and Ollie finally make their way towards him after having a talk to some older woman about something or rather and Bruce puts on a mask quickly, acting as if he isn’t about to strangle Oliver Queen as they get ready to leave.

Dick steers Damian away and asks Duke to get the girls and wait in the car, knowing full well Bruce is going to embarrasses himself.

Rather quickly, Tim picks up on his distress and pulls away from Ollie’s side hug and approaches Bruce, “Is something wrong?”

Bruce smiles a terrifying thing, full of teeth and hidden malice, “Not at all. Tell me, when did you two get so buddy buddy?”

Oliver pales a little, but luckily Dinah is there to stop him from saying the wrong thing.

With a smooth voice she speaks, coming forward to press a kiss to Tim’s head and then back to her husband, “Tim and Ollie met at one of the Drake’s charity events years ago. This really was lovely, but we must be going, I don’t trust the younger kids to bot cause you or with Captain Marvel.”

With that there gone while Bruce is faced with the fact that Oliver may ah e met one of his babies before him.

But Tim isn’t a fool and he loves his dad, so he hugs Bruce around the waist and clings to him like he’s ten instead of twenty two. He leans back just slightly and gives a cheeky grin with a softness in his eyes, “I love you, dad.”

Dick coos while Barbara snaps a photo as Bruce squeezes his son and somehow manages to not cry.

[ochibrochi]

america's sweetheart olympian 🥇

[ultimate-marysue]

It's raining nonstop where I am so I'm just picturing the Batfam during a flood.

Red Robin uploads a TikTok from the safety of a roof saying "watch him go!" As Red Hood keeps trying to drive his bike against the current. A big wave comes by and he's slowly dragged downhill. The caption reads "don't drive during floods".

Batman and Robin are on the ground helping civilians out of cars when the intensity doubles and in minutes Damian goes from wading knee deep in the water to swimming. The emergency batfloaties get triggered and he floats away as Bruce fails to grab him by half an inch. "Robin serenely drifting in the current" becomes a meme.

Someone takes a picture of a very flustered spoiler trying to squeeze the water out of her cape. The second she lets go the weight of the water makes her fall ass over backwards. Black Bat ends up giving her her waterproof cape.

Signal makes mirages of sharks in the water to scare the shit out of any criminals. Oracle uploads the recordings with Benny hill as background music. Bludhaven escapes the worst of the storm and Nightwing sends pictures to the group chat patting the barely wet concrete just to rub it in. He still slips on a puddle and eats shit, Barbara sends that to the group chat.

[livsoulsecrets]

Dark Crisis: Young Justice #2

It’s lowkey funny that Bruce being homophobic was another proof for Tim that they were trapped in the wrong world