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Is this before or after Tim blackmailed Batman into making him Robin (after Dick said no to being Robin again)?
If before Tim’s Robin and after confronting Dick, but Dick had me tally adopted him as his stalker-y problem (affectionate) and saw the kid hadn’t bothered him after doing so for a while consistently?
Dick can get worried and finds out Tim has a new Legal Guardian Trio while his parents are out of town instead of being at boarding school and assume The Worst.
Tim meanwhile is arguing with his new dads and mom which way to resurrect Jason, only to find jis grave empty. His aunts and uncle are now off to find out Who disturbed the grave and find a questionably there mentally Jason in a hospital.
Dante/Jordan is the one to sign him out as ‘family friend, our son visited his grave and uh, well. Dirt piles and broken coffin.’
Ellie takes Jason to Far Frozen while Tim is relieved Jason was found. And pesters Danny to help fix the revival (Frostbite has him Tim. And his soul is not all there—yes i am working on it, now eat your vegetables and we can go stalk Batman and Nightwing)
Tucker just, casually hacking the batcomputer as a technomancer and leaving a note of ‘our new son had us look over your latest one. Multiverse fuckery abounds, and he’s getting treatment for a botched revival by our family doctor. Fyi ninjas or spies were circling the hospital when we left, does [assassin alias] mean anything to you?’
If that does not shock Bruce out of his asshole hours, nothing will.
Dick is absolutely Going Through ItTM now.
Tim is just sighing and has taken to using various Fenton Weapons and making his own as he follows Bruce on patrol with Danny, but it is clearly a ‘enforcing minimal violence’ thing.
Danny straight up starts overshadowing Batman and forces him to leave when he toes the line of excess violence.
Tim is known as ‘little ghost’ to Phantom, Phantasm and Wraith.
Sam is also probably working with Poison Ivy or infiltrates the LOA by accident as environmental terrorism is her jam, and she has magic to help revive food sources for species whose primary food source is extinct.
I find the idea of Damian being fascinated by Sam’s work in LOA, while Talia and Batman are having a confrontation in another part of the base over her not telling him about Jason’s revival (he was taken by undead Fae beloved, and you cannot touch magic by your own choice and admission. You act like i didn’t hire someone else to investigate, Regardless.)
Sam just. Yoinks Damian when the fight gets too close for her comfort to the animals by calling her husband (Danny) and now that whole part is Vibing in Ivy’s territory.
Detective Chimp is probably who Talia hired to look into Jason’s disappearance by Fae.
Jason comes back with Ellie and Dante/Jordan after the base has been dropped into Ivy’s territory. By the time Batman gets back, Jason is clearly alive and being lectured by Aunt Ellie and Uncle Dante/Jordan about being liminal, and that while he’s low liminality, handling his emotional health is just as necessary as taking care of broken bones.
And reminder, jason died thinking bruce believed he was a killer (bruce had not made the call on that), hated him and knowing his bio mom abandoned him and sold him out to Joker of all people.
Jason is not in a good headspace to handle a grieving Bruce remembering Jason with rose-colored glasses, and Ellie and Jordan/Dante will know this given their respective relationships with Vlad, Danny’s friends/family and one another.
Bruce sees Jason chatting with Clearly Fae about being Fae Touched. And goes to get his kid.
Said kid has a trillion emotions that settle on Run and Fight!
Ellie and Jordan are now in Protect Mode.
Batman has a new set of rouge siblings… or parents? No one is sure given the age gap is ambiguous.
Detective Chimp manages to find Jason and since Jason met him before, totally spills the beans. Chimp just. Takes a deep breath and guides Jason a JLD meeting with a warning of ‘robin revived, fae touched and the fae that helped him are not letting batman near for a while. May allow his civilian ID but not batman. Plan of action time.’ Meeting
Tim is sad his plan didnt work 100%. And that he has (shudder) parents.
Jazz is probably bullying batman/forcing him to deal with his issues constructively now. More for her nephew and psuedo nephew’s sake than his own.
Sam accidentally kidnapped Damian, and instead of him being pissed, demanded an apprenticeship. Talia is given updates regularly and damian is not going around as ‘blood son’ but as ‘heir to the demon head’ or ‘talia’s son’. He speaks formally in english and informally in Arabic languages, and various Chinese languages.
Dont ask Sam about how she got an apprentice. She will just blame Batman.
Tim is working out if Damian counts as his baby cousin or brother now, as new Mom is clearly parenting him too, but co-parents will Talia. And his Aunt ellie (who looks his age) and Uncle Dante/Jordan are clearly parenting Jason by ghost standards, and open to co-parenting with Bruce rather than shared custody like his new dads and mom have with his bio parents.
Tim decides Damian is his baby step-brother for his sanity, and Jason is his cousin. Dick is still his favorite though, and he does break into his place in Bludhaven to let him know he’s alive and updates on Jason and his new step-brother/ mom’s apprentice in environment-based revival magic.
Dick is just glad Tim is relatively safe, and has the right to see Jason (who has abilities based on his dominant emotion and is learning to not let them control him with Aunt Jazz’s tips and a therapist in the Alley terrified of his various magical cousins. As jason handles it by calling them all his cousins.)
If you think Jazz is not bothering Dick and checking in on him, you are wrong.
This does not mean rest of Batfam don’t vigilante later on (or concurrently in spolier’s case) but just that Tim isn’t Robin, and Jason isnt sure about jumping in as Robin or a vigilante (given emotion’s can override him atm, and he needs to heal and find healthy coping mechanisms first.)
That’s all i got.
Batfam have a weird configuration here, and resembles fright dynamics more. Tim had 5 parents legally and smiles about it. He does still ‘patrol’ to manage Bruce’s interactions with criminals, but Danny handles heavy lifting. Let Tim join the semi-mad scientists of the Fenton clan, but the ‘kind of domesticated all things considered’ subset. Tim is Ghost, not Robin here.
Jason is working out what type of relationships he wants, dealing with various truamas and mild emotion-based abilities that can hijack his body as they run in instinct. Batman? Bad. Bruce? Dad, dad why are you not here. Jason’s going through it.
Damian as Sam’s apprentice is just brings joy. Talia and her co-parent while Talia is waiting for Bruce to get better to reveal their son. Sam’s family being Damian’s intro to the US culture and gotham is a mixed bag, but things could have been worse… or will be when bruce and dick see Damian for the first time, as Damian being a carbon copy of Talia with Bruce’s eyebrows is a fave hc of mine.
As always, add on and Go Nuts as this is up for grabs
Prompt 334
So. Danny has discovered he might erm, might be technically a necromancer. At least as far as magic is concerned. Like even if it’s just via resurrecting himself the magic side of things (god, he’s more scientist- sided dangit) count it as such.
Which means that half the time someone tries to summon a necromancing-esque being, he’s the one who gets tugged if he’s even a centimeter within range. It was annoying enough in high school, it’s no less annoying in this world they’ve all moved to.
On the bright side, thanks to also being half dead himself, the summonings and other rituals can’t actually drag him somewhere. It just causes him to feel like someone was crushing a lung or two, which honestly nothing new. (Gosh were those days of vigilante work really that violent? Huh, guess they were)
What he wasn’t expecting was for a tiny child, a living child, to track him down despite him not existing legally or anything similar in this world, to revive their previous local child vigilante. Which like, hey, first of all, he has a few questions? Just a couple and yeah sure, he’ll shake on it- can he have your name first there kid…?
Tim, on the other hand, is getting a little concerned when he realizes a lot of the questions the probable-fae keeps asking are in line with the stuff CPS asks. (Unknown to him, that is exactly where Danny is getting several of his questions about this scrawny vigilante kid. Erm. He might have to take the kid, for like, his own safety- hey Frostbite he needs your help he has some questions-)
#prompts#dcxdp#dpxdc#tim: i’m not getting adopted#danny already setting up another room in his lair connected to an apartment door:#danny to jordan & ellie & jazz: you might be aunts/uncle soon a tiny vigilante child tracked me down#danny: tucker i need assistance in the digital sense not the reality bending sense but-#”sam i need your entire list of foods & humanely dispatched meat products i might be acquiring a child soon”#tim (later): in avoiding getting adopted by my associate batman i may have gotten adopted by a necromancing space fae#danny is not ghost king#jazz out here forcing healthy coping mechanisms on bruce and dick#sam is in loa and accidentally stole damian#she got an apprentice#jason is fine#just needed medical intervention and now Jordan is Legal Gaurdian#Bruce and Dick need to get better before phantomfam let them near the kids#detective chimp mention#we need more of this guy
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Bruce: Tim and Damian did what?
Jason: Well, Alfred said they weren't allowed to see Dick because he was still recovering from last night, and the only way they could stay was if they were injured.
Bruce: And?
Jason: So they punched each other in the face and told him they were injured.
Bruce:
Jason
Steph: I gotta admire their dedication
#only reason jason didnt end up like tim and dami was alfred needed help with the stitching so he already saw that dick was gonna be fine#incorrect batfamily quotes#they also kinda wanted an excuse to punch each other#jason todd#dick grayson#tim drake#damian wayne#bruce wayne#stephanie brown#batfamily#bruce is so done#alfred pennyworth#the robins#this family is wildly codependent and i love it so much
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While I do find it funny that henchmen in Gotham probably warn each other about the Red Hood because he's a bat who will actually kill you. I think it would be better if Jason was actually seen as some sort of savior or idol to like 90% of the goons scattered around Gotham. Doesn't matter who they work for, they all know Jason, former crime-lord that took over majority of Gotham's underground in one night.
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Jason, years after the events of UTRH, now fighting crime alongside the batfam, except every goon he runs into immediately recognizes him, stops fighting, and starts begging.
the first time it happens, Jason assumes they're begging for their lives only to hear them begging for him to return to the crime lord business so they can work for him and not Gotham's current money-stingy, abusive rogues (Black Mask lol)
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Jason showing up to patrol as backup for Dick in an overrun warehouse full of Two-Face's henchmen and as Jason's about to interfere, one of the men stops dead in their tracks and stares really hard at Jason until:
Goon: Oh my God, boss, is that you?
Jason, pulling out his guns, about to shoot:
Goon: Mr. Hood, sir???
Jason, halfway about to pull the trigger: Wait a min–Jeremy? Oh wow, it's been ages! How's the wife?
Goon (Jeremy): Oh my God it IS you, holy shit where have you BEEN? Me and the guys miss you, man!
Dick, with a knife at his throat: What is happening right now
Jason: Ahh, well, crime-lording just wasn't fitting in on the daily schedule. Tryna turn over a new leaf and all that
Goon (Jeremy): Aw, that's disappointing. We really liked working for you, right guys?
[Chorus of enthusiastic "YEAHS" from the rest of the henchmen (even the one holding Dick at knifepoint)]
Goon (Jeremy): Well, anyways, I can't beat you up knowing you're my old boss! You gave us the best health benefits! We'll just let you take the evidence and leave.
Jason: Aw, thanks guys :)
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And that's why 95% percent of Jason's missions in Gotham end in success. Not because he's willing to kill people or because rogues are terrified of him, but because 90% of the rogues' henchmen once worked for Jason and fuckin love him lol.
#jason: are you sure your boss wont be mad?#jeremy: he's only mad like 50% of the time im sure we'll be fine#jeremy: also we hate working for him.#jason todd absolutely treats his employees well u cant convince me otherwise#dick after the mission: the HELL was that??#jason fondly: just my goon children. im so proud of them for moving onto weapons trade instead of drug dealing :)#dick: that man was older than you. pretty sure most of them were older than BRUCE#jason: dont disrespect my family like that.#dick: Jason IM your family. i was literally held at knifepoint during your little reunion and you did NOTHING#jason todd#red hood#dick grayson#nightwing#batfam#batfamily#batkids#batbros#dc comics#incorrect quotes#headcanon#crack#fanatical posting
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We all know how flustered Battinson would be as a first time dad, but can you imagine him when half the rogue roster AND JL members come to them after Jason gets adopted?
Naturally, they assume he’s Bruce’s biological kid. And chaoes quickly comes knocking.
Harvey is VERY ready to be a dad. Too ready. “Don’t even worry about it, even if we’ve had our problem, OBVIOUSLY I’m the father, and I’ll be there every step of the way.”
“What.”
“There’s no need to hide the truth, Bruce, I’m not mad. I’ll be the best dad I can be. I won’t even let Two Face show him how to shoot a gun.”
“I already know how to do that :D”
“WHAT?”
“What did I tell ya?” The seamless switch is blink-and you miss it, but not for Bruce’s sharp eyes. TF just grins, switchblade sharp, ruffling at Jason’s hair, “That IS my boy.”
Clark sheepishly approaching Bruce one day, sitting down at the JL cafeteria table. His handsome face fashioned a bare earnestness which only confuses Bruce MORE.
“Hey. So, we should probably talk about Jason, right?”
“What.”
“I’m really sorry if I did something that made you feel like you couldn’t tell me. But I’m ready to step up. So when should I move in?”
“We haven’t slept together, Clark.”
“Bruce, I think I’d know my kid when I saw him.”
Hal can’t take this anymore. “HE’S A MAN?” He pauses, “Also, why am I not questioned? I could be the baby daddy! I could SO be the baby daddy!”
“Go away, Hal.”
“Yeah ok.”
#by far the worst is khoa#doesn’t even say anything. just pops up at the manor. looks at jason. ‘’ knew it had to happen someday.’’ and he’s like cool. son.#Bruce: khoa please get out of my house#khoa: fine. have fun explaining divorce to our kid#Bruce: we were never married#khoa: and whose fault is that#bruce wayne#dc#dc comics#battinson#harvey dent#clark kent#superbat#batman#text#text post#batdad#jason todd#bruharvey
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i will never understand how people have the heart to hate Jason even after they found out that his Ambrosia tastes like fucking sawdust. Ambrosia being tasty is like one single happy thing a demigod can have despite their tragic lives, because it reminds them of the home they once had, but lost. And Jason doesn't even have that, he doesn't even have a home to lose in the first place.
#He didn't even get the bare minimum of anything#what the fuck I'm bawling#json grace haters who make false claims about his character trying to villianize him go fuck yourselves I'm serious#genuinely y'all make so mad so DNI on my lage#hating a character is fine but outright making false claims about his actions to manipulate others into jumping on the hate train aswell??#how could you despise him with this knowledge. “because he tried replacing perc-” shut the fuck up if that's the reason#It was technically jason who was so quickly replaced in camp Jupiter after his sheer 11 years of hardwork#but oh no it's completely fine that no one in cj sent a search party after him and only jason gets the blame for landing in chb#I will never forget the part of the fandom who tried to convince me that Jason was a bad character who deserved to die.#pjo#pjo fandom#percy jackson#pjo hoo#pjo series#jason grace#pjo hoo toa#annabeth chase#piper mclean#leo valdez
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Welcome to the family
[Dick on the phone with Wally, while walking up the manors driveway]
Dick: I still can't believe that he got another kid! I'm gone for a few weeks, and suddenly, he gets empty nest syndrome, unbelievable
Wally: Yeah, definitely didn't see that one coming. So, have you met the kid yet?
Dick: [groans] I'm about to, not that I'm overly thrilled about this
Wally: I get it, dude. Just make sure not to take it out on the kid too much
Dick: Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to be a complete jerk. After all this mess isn't the kids fault
Dick: Ugh, I just hope this kid doesn't act like Bruce hung the starts or something-
Dick: [opens the front door]
Jason: -you really like the Frankenstein movie more than the book?! B, how STUPID can you be?!
Wally: [still on the other end of the line] What was that?
Dick: ...I'm gonna have to call you back, Wally
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[Later]
Dick: [holding back laughter] And then, after he threw the tire iron he said- he said "Try and catch me you big boob!"
Wally: No way! He did not say that to Batman!
Dick: HE DID!
[hysterically laughing]
#dick grayson#wally west#jason todd#bruce wayne#incorrect batfamily quotes#batbros#batboys#batfamily#batfam#robin jason todd#this is cannon now#i thought about turning this into a fic but i don't have the energy#if anyone else wants to fine with me
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I know WFA is too OOC for some people, but I need that shit right now.
I do love seeing the Batfam beating the shit out of each other. I like how messy their relationships are and I have always loved flawed characters.
But idk, man, Batman #138 just really crossed a line for me and I need a reminder that there are other depictions of Bruce that aren't so fucking heinous.
I'll take this shit:
Over this shit:
Any. Fucking. Day.
#wfa#wayne family adventures#gotham war#gotham war spoilers#bruce wayne#jason todd#dc comics#batman comics#batman 138#im not saying wfa is better#all im saying is that gotham war's bruce is a LOT right now#and idk how to cope with that#dreamer queue#updated post with better quality scans of panels#guys I'm not saying wfa is better than gw or any other batman canon#pls stop messaging me that you dont like wfa#it's fine if you dont like wfa#all i was trying to say was that wfa bruce may be ooc but he's kinder to jason#than gw bruce is being right now#that was it#that's the post#calm down
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this idea wont leave my brain please help me !! YIPPEE HADES BATKIDS !!!
without the bg and text under the cut :))
asdhj probably gonna post like,, two at a time because thats ,, a lot,,,, of drawing ,,,,,,, so heres tim and jason! i think i got the hang of it more with jason lol
ALSO ALSO!!!
thank you to those who helped me with the titles for the batkids!! they were all really good :D (all on insta lol)
timothy: the tenured - thomson_at
#yeah jasons hair gave me ... a lot of trouble until i landed on this#i was debating doign a long hairstyle but i dont think it looked too good with the wreath lol#tims clothing actually gave me sooo much trouble#i really wanted to incorperate more of his red robin elements in it and so i really wanted to do the yellow bandoliers#but thats why he has the upper arm wraps#maybe ill redo him later#once i get the hang of jen zee's style more lolol#jason was fun though#askj commentary over#jason todd#red hood#robin#tim drake#dc fanart#dc comics#batfam#batman#ash's doodlings#hades game#hades supergiant#wait more commentary#i used apollo artemis and hermes for tim because i wanted more of that slimmer vibe#and zag i mostly used for jason#yeah im not super happy with tim but for like.. a second attempt im fine with it#btw if this were an actual game#id like to think that the protagonist would be damian#trying to find his father (bruce) and coming across all of his fathers kids and pseudo kids lol
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Jason finally giving into affection re: Bruce but he does it Mandalorian style. which is to say he headbutts Bruce so hard he breaks his nose and then presses their foreheads together while Bruce bleeds everywhere. somehow this is cathartic for them both.
#bonus points if this is right after some large fight together#love how in mando culture#a headbutt is basically the same thing as a kiss#a platonic kiss sometimes for the record!#so sometimes#when you break someone's nose with a headbutt#it can be construed as a very violent but genuine gesture of affection#anyway#back on my mando bullshit#bruce wayne#batman#dc#batfamily#jason todd#red hood#and like#bruce LETS him break his nose#and just lets him headbutt him#like if jason's affection is only done this way#then that's fine with bruce right
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Prompt:
Tim is the first to find out the Red Hood’s identity and from then on sticks to Jason during patrol like glue (much to Jason’s chagrin, dammit, it would feel wrong to beat up Robin when he’s that starry eyed…)
Cue: PANIC from the rest of the Batfamily, who still think Hood is a forty-something year old crime lord and now assume they’re dating.
#misunderstandings#miscommunication#protective batfamily#dick is NOT having it#neither is Bruce#I connected the dots- YOU CONNECTED SHIT#I connected them#Tim is very confused about all the ‘you can tell us if anything is wrong’ talks#are they talking about the one time Jason shot at him? because honestly it was pretty obvious he wasn’t even trying to hit him it’s FINE#if I see anybody add something that comes even CLOSE to ship bashing I shall make this Jaytim out of spite#no bashin in this house nah-uh#maybe some mild joker bashing#but it’s still ok if you like him#let’s keep this ✨harmonious✨#jason todd#dick grayson#batfam#bruce wayne#robin#tim drake#red hood#fic#Nightwing#Batman#prompts#this is part of my fic roster btw hehe
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you guys will never guess
#crying screaming throwing up#im like very fine#no really#someone has discovered the power of showing me their favorite stuff (we have the same taste)#jayroy#red hood and the outlaws#art#fanart#artists on tumblr#digital art#sketch#red arrow#red hood#jason todd#roy harper#dc#dc comics#dc universe#dc fanart#arsenal#speedy
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Batfam Psych au
Duke actually has "psychic" powers but would never reveal that to the world at large. And Jason is a drama queen
Commission info / ko-fi
#it helps that they're both actual detectives#they do this at least once every few months btw#mostly when jason gets bored#duke is fine with it cuz it means he doesn't have to do AP homework for a bit#jason todd#duke thomas#batman#dc#dc comics#fanart#fan art#my art#red hood#signal dc#batfam#batfamily#batbros#batkids#batsiblings#psych#psych au
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Tim: I love Christmas
Jason: did your parents celebrate with you or something?
Tim: no, but while at boarding school my roommate wanted to watch Home Alone and I just loved the idea.
Steph: oh this will be fun
Tim: so I forged my parents signature and signed myself out. Took a cab home and set trapps all throughout my house. Now that was fun but I wanted to whole experience so I hired two goons to break into my house.
Jason: what the fuck?
Tim: they didn't get permanently hurt, I wasn't cruel. I did give them payment and obviously I didn't want my parents knowing so I just let them go after. It's was fun
Steph: sounds like you.
Tim: hey, we should do that! We have better training and traps! It could be Family bonding!
Steph: YES!
Jason: ...that does sound fun. I'm game.
#comics#dc comics#robin#tim drake#batman#bruce wayne#red robin#jason todd#red hood#spoiler#stephanie brown#batfamily#batfam#home alone#then they build a safe house into a home alone style trap#the goons were fine they got money for the price of doing a giant excape room which isnt really ooc for gotham.
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Is this courtship?
Danny is going to Gotham for his scholarship.
Good news! There's another halfa in the city, and he seems to be a good guy. Bad news: the nearest path to his university is through that halfta's haunt. He could take the long way around, but the costs would be more than his budget can handle, and he'd like to avoid dealing with a pissed-off Red Hood.
Hopefully the offerings will be enough to sate his annoyance (and help maybe, god that man has the most malnourished core he's ever seen).
Jason is getting incredibly confused over the strange gift baskets that keep appearing on his patrol routes.
#dc x dp#dp x dc crossover#dc#dcu#my post#my prompts#jason todd#danny phantom#danny fenton#meet cute#dead on main#or not idk#its up to you#hc Crime Alley loves Hood#they give him stuff alot#so jason doesn't suspect the random gift baskets on rooftops#but it get weird seeing the same basket everywhere#woven basket with green ghost patterned cloth#its cute but it gave off a funky feeling#food is hella nice tho#slow burn#like roasting a duck#danny: glad that he hasnt offended the other halfta#jason: *getting some weird but not bad vibes everytime danny goes through Crime Alley* this is fine#batfam: half happy that jason is getting courted(?) half worry bc this admirer keep finding where jason is#diabolichare#is this courtship
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me when jason grace (im still in the denial stage)
#jason grace#pjo#pjo hoo#pjo hoo toa#the trials of apollo#trials of apollo#heroes of olympus#the heroes of olympus#pjoverse#rrverse#i take a bit longer to grieve but rlly whats there to grieve?!! hes fine?!!$:$:$
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I find the fact that the confrontation at the end of UTRH is often summarized as Jason asking Bruce to kill the Joker for him fascinating.
Because that's not what happened.
Jason holds a gun up to Joker's head, gives Bruce another, and tells him that if Bruce doesn't do something (shoot Jason), he will kill Joker.
Jason doesn't give the gun to Bruce so that he would shoot Joker. He isn't expecting Bruce to pull the trigger on the clown. He's asking Bruce to do nothing. To be inactive. Because that will still be a choice, and despite having done nothing, everybody clearly agrees that Bruce would still, at least in part, be responsible for Joker's death.
...And to me, this moment is a kind of- microcosm, of the rest of Jason's point. Because after being captured and carted off to Arkham, the villain will escape again, and will kill more people. The only way to truly prevent that from happening would be to kill them; Bruce refuses to do so, and I respect his right to choose such a thing for himself, but it is still a choice, and if we agree that Bruce's inaction during the confrontation would leave him at least partly responsible for the Joker's death, then we must also agree that his inaction in permanently preventing the Rogues from killing more people means he is also, partly, responsible for all of those deaths.
#my dc posting#batman#dc#bruce wayne#jason todd#joker#uhh is this like analysis or meta#anyway. to me this is the message that scene sends#if we say bruce doing nothing would mean he assisted in the murder of joker then bruce doing nothing about the villains means he is also#responsible for those deaths#ANYWAY yes b4 you come at me;;#bruce's belief in rehabilitation and that everyone can get better is central to his character#and i love it and no i dont actually think he should kill the rogues or whatever#but the question there is. Are you fine with the future victims your decisions will cause?#Are their lives worth the slim chance any of these people will get better?#batman says yes theyre worth it. red hood says no theyre not.#thats the fundamental moral difference there#its why jason challenges the batman status quo#which is why he cant be harnessed well after his initial return bc comics can never truly escape that status quo#anyway i sure am having some thoughts for someone not that smart so if you disagree please tell me!!! just be civil or ill just block you <#...anyway this is another thing BTAS succeeds in bc i always feel like yes these villains do deserve yet another chance#despite what theyve done. bruce's belief in them doesnt feel stupid and naive#its abt what you yourself can live with. bruce can live w the deaths of the ppl the criminals he doesnt get rid of kill#and jason can live with killing those criminals and preventing further victims
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