#she ra and the princesses of power critical

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

And then Noah Z Jones is the bad one, right?

So let me get this straight...

According to TVC:

Leaking something you like makes you a "GOOD!" person.

But leaking something you dislike makes you a terrible person that "deserves" to be shunned away and harassed from the public eye?

WHAT?!

Also, she ships Catadora, I....

Like- no? You dont get to do this after supporting a transphobe and supporting a rape ship. (evidence in the video.)

You dont get to do that. This is disgustingly hypocritical behavior.

This plus the fact that she harassed Limus will never not be horrible.

She legit tried to convince Limus to publicly dox themself while knowing that Limus was getting rape threats.

That's it. Im gonna say it.

The Virtual Celebrity, Ayy Lmao, and Vivziepop do NOT deserve the praise they get. -and the fact that all three supported a transphobe makes it even worse.

These people are awful with not a single apology in sight.

Even Vivziepop's apology was just saying "I WAS NEVER TRANSPHOBIC!" when she clearly was and still is today:

"Finding perspectives from different sides." MY ASS.

She knew that Blaire and Shoe were being transphobic the entire time, told people that she "doesn't cater" to people that dislike Blaire White, and then proceeded to basically call trans people "TRENDERS!" the same way Blaire White did four years later, showing that Viv has NOT changed since the Blaire White and Kendraws drama.

More on the Kendraws drama here:

[toaverse]

Couples I wish were written better.

[endearing-dalliance]

She-Ra PoP vs Arcane S2

Physically disabled character considered inferior by his society, abandoned instead of being helped

Technological genius who benefits from having a partner

Uses technology to improve his health and quality of life

Becomes fundamentally altered by a force outside his control (with Christian and cult references)

And now here's where She-Ra and Arcane's messages diverge: Hordak is consistently supported and loved by his partner throughout his journey. She doesn't let up when he tries to hide his pain from her.

She does NOT tell him that he is wrong to try to "fix" himself and actively helps him do so. She recognizes the validity of how he choses to deal with his condition, which was caused by genetic "imperfections" during the cloning process. But she impresses upon him that he does not deserve the physical pain or mental torment of being a "failure".

Her message was that his imperfections do not limit him or define him. They are a part of life, part of the world, and a part of him, and he is not a failure for having them.

Meanwhile in Arcane, Jayce criticizes Viktor for "wanting to cure what he thought were weaknesses" and specifically mentions his leg and disease. The two things that brought him chronic pain, progressively deteriorating quality of life, and one would ultimately kill him. Also, Viktor never actually expressed that he was ashamed of them. We as the audience are left to assume that's how he feels, because why wouldn't he? What else would a disabled person feel? Not that he is perfectly aware that Piltover's oppression and exploitation of his people likely directly contributed to both those issues. Not that he values himself for his intellect and contributions to Hextech even though society constantly prioritized Jayce. Nope, obviously he feels so bad about it that he tries to turn all of humanity into robots. On top of that, Christian Linke has explicitly said the Hexcore corrupted him and Sky was a manifestation of it manipulating him. So even if he did feel that way before, he's still not at fault for what's been going on.

And I think a key part of this is the mindset of the team who created this show. Was this simply a poorly executed but positive sentiment, or a symptom of ableist bias from a team of 3 able-bodied people? We can harp on Jayce all we want, but ultimately someone designed him this way, and THIS is what I take issue with. Christian also says in the art book explicitly that Viktor fixing his leg and spine make him lose part of his humanity. If this is the logic behind Jayce's monologue, it is NOT positivity. It is a direct shaming of a disabled person's right to choose how they take care of themselves, said by a character who has already violated Viktor's autonomy and wishes, written by a team that equates self-improvement with inferior humanity.

Amanda Overton has repeatedly mentioned she was inspired by She-Ra, which is pretty obvious here. Unfortunately, this isn't the unequivocally positive message she thinks it is, and she missed all the nuance of Entrapta and Hordak's conversations about it. A huge component of why it works in She-Ra is because Entrapta's wisdom comes from her understanding of her own "failures" and "imperfections" due to her autism, and Hordak reciprocates support throughout the show. One of the key members of her development team is an autistic person who provided a realistic view of what an autistic person can be like.

This is two people who understand each other's pain uplifting each other, NOT Entrapta being Hordak's miraculous savior at the 11th hour. Having Jayce need a leg brace for like 5 minutes does not give him ability to understand Viktor's lifelong struggles that were also killing him.

For future seasons, I hope they bring on staff who actually have any idea what they are fucking talking about.

[bi-dykes]

An interesting observation I made

I am not AT ALL saying that victims are no longer victims if they stand up for themselves. I’m saying that Adora is not afraid of Catra in the least, whereas Vi is constantly walking around eggshells around Caitlyn, and that is concerning.

I’m comparing Adora’s line, “I’m such an idiot (for trusting you, untrustworthy catra >:(” to Vi’s line, “I’m such an idiot for trusting Jinx, for not agreeing with you, go ahead and say ‘I told you so’” and her voice is wavering the entire time she’s speaking.

Caitlyn has Vi under her thumb. She can turn her against her own community. Whereas Adora is free. She is liberated, and she can choose to forgive Catra or not. And she does, but only after a proper apology and an improvement of behaviour. I wish Vi had socked Caitlyn in the face once or twice like Adora did to Catra.

[stanlunter]

Dana Terrace on her way to steal everything she sees form other shows instead of making up at least something herself:

[oceanstrap]

I'm not lesbophobic just because I pointed out issues in a wlw relationship.

[kathrahender]

One of the things I dislike most about fandoms is the hypocrisy of their fans. And this is about ships again, yes (it's about characters too ngl).

Every anti-Bakudeku/Catradora fan says things like "How can you ship couples like these? It's so abusive! It's disgusting! Catra/Bakugo were so mean towards Adora/Izuku! Catradora/Bakudeku is so toxic and you shouldn't like it!" and then, when talking about Hiccstrid people always love them together. Even if Astrid was also a bully to Hiccup. Even if her development was null (don't say she had development, her "redemption" arc was shit and she needed more time in screen and more scenes between her and Hiccup to change from "I hate all the dragons" to "I was wrong about them". And one scene with an OST called "Romantic Flight" is not enough to make her redemption believable). Talking about development, do I really have to say that you hate Catradora/Bakudeku, but at least Catra and Bakugo apologized to Adora and Izuku? Astrid didn't say sorry to Hiccup for bullying him/hurting him. And you should be aware of that.

Bakugo and Catra didn't redeem in one day, they didn't get up one day and decided to be nicer. No, they had to work in their redemption and they also had to work in their relationship with the people they hurt (Izuku and Adora). Astrid didn't do that. All she needed to change was flying in a dragon with the person she used to hate.

Having all of that in mind, tell me, which relationship would be more healthy, logical and believable? The ones where the bully had to work hard to make amends for their mistakes, to heal their scars to make it better for the MC? The ones where the bully apologized to their victim, to the people they hurt? Or the one where all it took to change from "I hate you so much" to "I like you" was one scene, and they didn't even apologize for being a bully/being a bad person? Think about that.

And think about another thing too. A girl hurting a boy is bad. "But she-" No. "But she's not being cruel and she-" Enough. Don't fucking justify female-on-male violence. Violence is violence. If you hate Bakugo/Catra so much for hurting Izuku/Adora, then treat Astrid the same way, because she was not an angel before changing. She's not innocent. She was a bully too. And if you despise Bakugo/Catra's past actions, despise Astrid's past actions too.

Where I also saw Double Standard in media is in shows where there's a female character stalking a male character. Two examples that come to my mind right now are Hinata Hyuga from Naruto and Marinette Dupain-Cheng from Miraculous Ladybug.

The thing about them is that a lot of people love them. A lot of people love a female character stalking a male character. Dear God, Marinette learned the daily schedule of Adrien, and she even traveled to another country for him. Because she couldn't bear thinking he was in another country where she couldn't see what was he doing. That's not freaking normal, you guys. "She was a girl" "She didn't know what was she doing" "She's just in love". Excuse me- What. the. hell. Okay. So you're saying you're okay with a girl being so jealous that everytime her "crush" talks to a girl she needs to be around. You're okay with a girl entering her crush's house without permission (Do you know that's a crime, right?). You're okay with a girl having her bedroom full of photos of her crush (and I'm not talking about a fictional character from a show she likes. I'm talking about a real person. Because in Miraculous Ladybug's world, Adrien is Marinette's classmate, not a character from a show). I'm sorry, but if you think that's okay, there's something wrong with you. People can like someone and have a crush, sure, but what she has is an obsession. What she's doing is not normal. (And she can do that in the show, after all she's a character, but don't act like she's a nice person and an innocent person because she isn't. And definitely don't see her actions as a normal thing).

People, please, don't think what she's doing is "iconic" or something like that. If you're watching this show, please, don't do the same as her with your crush because is awful and disgusting. She's not "cute" for doing this. She has a problem, I'm being serious.

If she had a better love story with Adrien, like she did in the movie, I would understand the Adrinette ship because in the new movie it's just beautiful and wholesome and it's actually healthy. But when it comes to the show, the Adrinette ship can't be nothing more than toxic. So stop acting like Marinette's actions towards Adrien are okay (Yes, Adrien's actions towards Ladybug weren't okay neither, but this post is about female characters).

What Hinata Hyuga did -in comparison with Marinette- is not that bad, but even then, following her crush (Naruto Uzumaki) everytime he's with his friends/classmates is not nice. It's not cute. It's not something people should do. And the Naruhina ship honestly makes no sense. Okay, I get it. It's the type of romance we all want to have. We all want our crush to fall in love with us. We all want to have a relationship with the person we used to have a crush on. But if you want to include that trope if your story, if you want them to end up together in a show/book/movie, give them development. The ship has to feel natural.

We have to feel/see the chemitry. And I saw (and still see) no chemistry between Naruto and Hinata. Sasunaru, on the other hand, has a lot of emotional moments together and moments when they bond (their chemistry is right there). And it's not for my own preference, but they would have made a better couple. Mostly because they shared more screen time with each other. Even though Shikanaru and Gaanaru are also good options for a canon ship. Because they also had chemistry. But Naruto's love for Hinata in my opinion didn't feel natural. It was forced.

After all of this, let me say something more. You probably don't care about a girl stalking a boy in fiction. You're probably like "She's not doing anything wrong" "She's a teenager" "Stop being judgmental, she's a good character" "She's a nice person". If what they do it's okay for you, let me ask you a question. What if their gender was reversed? Yeah. Imagine if Marinette and Hinata weren't girls. Imagine if they were boys. Imagine if a boy went to another country to control the actions of another girl. Imagine if a boy entered his crush's house without permission. Imagine if a boy stalked the girl he likes to see if she's talking to another boys. Imagine if a boy had pictures of the girl he likes in his bedroom. What would you think then? Oh- You would think it's disgusting? It would be disgusting for you, right? Why? Because it's a boy?

People, have this in mind:

👏👏👏 If a boy does something bad and a girl does the same thing they both need to be treated the same way 👏👏👏

A girl hitting a boy isn't funny. It shouldn't be played for fun. As well as a boy hitting a girl. Neither of them is funny. And neither of them can be justified.

A girl stalking a boy isn't funny. As well as a boy stalking a girl. Neither of them is funny. And neither of them can be justified.

That's why I ask you to stop being two-faced. If you despise someone's actions, you despise someone's actions, whether it is a boy or a girl. You want equality? Then fucking stop with the double standard.

A bad action is a bad action, no matter who makes it. Period.

[mr-damian-s-power]

Going on from my other post about how I feel the 'Aliens that are Humans but slightly different' and 'world of cool aliens designs but the main character is a Human' trends are lazy and boring, here's another thing I just remembered relating to it.

When someone defends it with 'it's for relatability'.

What are you trying to say? That you can't relate to someone if you don't look exactly like them? What kinda dumb bollocks is that? Maybe I just don't get it, being a filthy whiteman, but I find that idea stupid.

If you think I can't relate to the Alien who looks like a sentient pile of orange sludge, or that funky little monster with the body of a Chicken and the head of a Goblin, then maybe be a better writer. Nope, I can only relate to English Human males who have autism, apparently.

What, are we supposed to relate to characters based on skin colour and race? You sure you wanna go down that road, chief?

[catras-breakup-song]

yeah sure, i'll tell you something that repeatedly pisses me off to no end:

images shamelessly stolen from here

when catra haters say this type of dialogue is a good example of her "abuse"

it's lighthearted affection, playful bantering! many friends bully each other this way all the time for the laughs; i know i always have and nobody minded!

some people may not like it, and that's fine, you don't have to! but your opinion does not change how the characters canonically feel about it. if adora happily takes it without strife and understands the intention in the moment, then there is no issue. you could argue that she calls herself an idiot the episode after she rescues catra from prime's ship, but i genuinely believe that's just a result of her being too harsh toward herself all the time anyway without any influence from catra. even when she didn't have to worry about her as an enemy throughout her average days in bright moon, she still kept that weight burdened on her shoulders regardless.

such an example of the criticism i'm referring to is someone complaining in this reddit post, albeit not necessarily from an anti since they seem to simply not understand and therefore disapprove based on their own personal feelings about the situation among the replies. there's also this comment, which adds some objective truth to catra's partial-insult.

as another individual pointed out, throughout the first seasons it came from more of a "duh! how do you not get it?" condescending attitude (think of adora's final revelation in 01x02 that the horde was evil while catra had known her whole life, and later on in 03x03 when catra points out how silly it sounds to admit you'd listen blindly to anything an old hologram has to say ─ even if it did happen to be correct), but i also added that when it comes to season five it originates more from a place of concern, hence upholding her half of the promise for the two of them to look out for each other at all times. if adora lacks so much awareness, she'll constantly end up in dangerous situations, and that's exactly what eventually ended up happening when she followed shadow weaver's manipulated guidance to accept the failsafe.

it drains so much energy from me to give this bad-faith argument any attention so hopefully i'll only have to do it this once. it's not worth getting frustrated over so don't waste your time trying to convince reactionaries that this trait of all things is what makes her such a terrible person.

[iddstar]

I did the thing!

The theme was some of my favourite battle girlfriends.

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Tv Tropes Is Trying To Protect Stolas Like It Did With Catra

One thing that Tv tropes sometimes does is do everything in it's power to protect anything negative against some of their favored characters like with Catra if you go to the YMMV page for She-Ra and the Princesses Of Power you will notice there is no entry for Unintentionally Unsympathetic for Catra but ironically there is one for Lonnie and Adora (one of them being that she betrayed Catra by defecting). It is because in my opinion that website has become so biased that certain people who white knight for certain characters will coddle them at all cost due to being anal to certain stupid rules they have made up or they are biased.

And again this is the same thing happening with Stolas is that they is an overwhelming negative reaction is his rising creator pet but the site doesn't want to acknowledge it because it holds onto the belief of protecting certain characters above criticism. And it's again due to how popular these shows are on the site and how they are praised for superficial progressiveness. The difference here is more people are pushing back and pointing out how much of a pos Stolas is being depicted and are not going to lie down and make Stolas out to be a sad boy just to hide his horrible actions and pretend he had good development.

While the push back has acknowledged Stolas' shittiness, we still see people who run apologetics for him and try to again push blame on Blitzo while ignoring how much Stolas started this from the moment he tried to get Blitzo in the bedroom. And again these people try to use every type of logic to defend this pos bird and claim that Blitzo is stupid for not blindly going with him. It's the same thing with Catra where people say Adora is dumb for not thinking of her but never do the same thing with Catra who is a selfish pos like Stolas and is coddled by the fandom because of her sad backstory no matter how much she treats people like absolute crap.

If more antis push back against Stolas being treated with Catra hands we can actually get accurate reactions to his behavior rather than coddling him as people this poor misunderstood soul who really is nice.

[liloskull343]

When people say Adora and Catra were in love in the first episode and didn't want to admit it

I have to ask

Do you also electrocute the person you love?

Be little them?

And also Catra saying this (which unfortunately I had to grab from a wiki because my memory is fucking shit)

"This is what you left me for? Dress-up games and a light show? And your new friends are nowhere to be seen. When did you get so weak?"

Catradora will never be what Lumity and Sashanne are

edit: Seeing some c*tradora shippers replying to this post

Perhaps this will scare them off

[blackholezyy]

I don’t hate She-Ra. I actually love She-Ra as a show. It’s definitely not the most well written but I still love a lot of aspects of the show as well as its characters. But some things confuse me about the show. Like how all the princesses are referred to as “princesses” despite ruling in their own right. For Glimmer in S1-3, it’s understandable because she was actually a Princess since Angella was Queen.

But what about the other “princesses?” Mermista is still referred to as a Princess despite the show saying that her father “retired.” Which is very unclear. Did he abdicate the throne to Mermista? Why is there no other mention of him? He doesn’t even show up when Salineas got conquered.

Perfuma’s parents aren’t mentioned at all. So we could assume that she’s the role ruler of Plumeria.

Frosta’s parents died when she was young, forcing her to rule over the Kingdom of Snows alone and we could assume the same thing for Entrapta.

So why is only Glimmer referred to as Queen? Why aren’t the other “princesses” referred to as Queens as well? And while we’re on the topic, do Spinnerella and Netossa even count because they’re referred to as Princesses yet we don’t see their kingdoms (nor does it get mentioned) and they’re always in Bright Moon. Excluding Scorpia since she doesn’t really have a kingdom to rule over and her origins are also so underdeveloped.

This show hurts my brain sometimes…

[bi-dykes]

Caitlyn x Vi is NOT my toxic yuri >:(

No, Raven is not Apple’s aunt. In the books they discussed that. And there are “plot holes” in their destinies where the story is slightly different for the sake of their children retelling it, such as The Candy witch climbing out the back of the oven so her heir can become the next her, and The Evil Queen and Snow White not being stepmother and stepdaughter so their children can go to school together to train to be the next them

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

also it’s really weird that glimmer has gone toe to toe with catra several times and has nearly defeated her, but adora couldn’t do it more than like,, twice?

[anti-catradora-collection]

⚠️ DO NOT GO AFTER AND DO NOT HARASS THE PERSON FROM THE SCREENSHOT ABOVE.

how the hell would catra be "morally grey"? she LITERALLY:

- destroyed villages;

- was responsible for killing a lot of people, including glimmer's mother;

- attempted to destroy the whole universe;

- abused many people, including adora;

- kidnapped adora and her friends, drugged adora without her consent, tried to kill adora multiple times and all that while laughing/with a smile in her face;

- was a war criminal!!!!!

she's also not "complicated". she could be a very complex character, but it can, at most, be confusing to understand her character if you fell into the "c//a narrative". she was badly written, her development is non-existent and her "redemption arc" is terrible. all that can make her a confusing character for those who like c//a, confusion which may be mistaken as complexity.

the comments can be worse tbh. there's people denying everything catra has done, saying stuff like "oh c//a antis won't survive the winter"... not to mention the tags used. this person was really aiming at us.

these people simply do not realize that catra (and even spop in general) is poorly written and then proceed to blame it on us for some reason. 🤷