#antis

[wolveria]

"Certain ships should be illegal!" How does it feel to fall for the same fear-mongering, book-burning, pearl-clutching reactionary propaganda that your grandparents did.

"But it'll lead to pedophilia!" And the Satanic panic of the 80s and 90s gained momentum out of real fear for the safety of children. Didn't make it true. Strong emotions do not indicate factual accuracy.

Just because you're young and label yourself a progressive doesn't mean your critical thinking skills and media literacy are better than the generations before you. In fact, due to right-wing evangelical influence on school budgets and boards, they're probably worse.

[vladdyissues]

Lately Ive seen some awful things about antis and haters making threats and getting artists banned from Tumblr and X. Im new to the Phandom and love pompep but Im scared i'll be targeted if I write and share pompep fics. How do you manage sharing your work so bravely?

Firstly, welcome to the Phandom—and especially Pompous Pep! I have a simple protocol for enjoying a drama-free Tumblr experience:

Preventative Action

1. Find your community. Follow other Pompep fans and supporters and reblog their things. Don't be afraid to leave nice tags; we love and welcome interactions :) You can also join the Pompep Discord server if you enjoy chatting (DM me for details).

2. Turn off anon asks. This will solve 99% of all potential problems, and you can turn it back on whenever you want. Antis are cowards who prefer to hide behind the mask of anonymity. They seldom have the courage to say something with their whole username.

3. Block the obvious haters. This is a big fandom, and at some point you're likely to come across people openly hating on pompep, either on their bio, pinned posts, or comments. Block them. For an added layer of protection, add their username to your Filtering Options.

4. Tag your work appropriately. When posting, make sure your work is tagged correctly (the #pompous pep tag is especially important) so people who like pompep can find it and those who want to avoid it can block the tag. Use Content Labels when applicable.

5. Try to avoid using the platonic tag (#badger cereal) and the romantic tag (#pompous pep) at the same time. Some fans are really touchy about this. I'm not, and I think there are legitimate cases where use of both is applicable, but if you want to minimize friction, just stick with one tag or the other.

If you're not sure which tag to use, ask yourself what your intentions are with your art or fic. Is the goal a romantic relationship? If so, use the pompep tag. If it's truly ambiguous and could be seen either way, use the platonic tag first. You can always add another tag like "okay to tag as pompep", just to let people know they can interpret it however they please.

Responsive Action

If the above guidelines aren't 100% effective, here's what you do:

1. Don't feed the trolls. If you receive any negative asks in your inbox, it's important to NOT engage with them. Delete them, ignore them, don't let them get to you. Antis thrive on attention, so let them starve. Eventually they'll move on when they realize they're not going to get a rise out of you.

The same goes for any negative comment left on your work. Just delete it, block the person who left it, and pretend it never happened.

These asks and comments may come in the form of questions. Example: "How can you ship Danny with Vlad? That's [insert gross accusation here]" Resist the urge to answer these questions. They are not made in good faith. This person just wants to start an argument.

2. Report any harassment. If by some chance you receive a seriously hateful ask, like threats of violence or abuse, take a screenshot for proof/safekeeping, then report the message and the user if they're not anonymous. If the ask is anonymous, use the meatball menu (•••) at the top right to report the message and block the anon.

Final Words

It takes time to develop a thick skin and Don't Give A Fuck attitude, but it can be done. You are a phan. You have every right to be here and enjoy this fandom in peace, just like everyone else. Anyone who believes in harassing others over silly things like which cartoon characters should be allowed to kiss clearly has nothing better to do with their life. The sooner you shut them out, the happier you'll be.

Regarding media: Artists attract a lot more negative attention than writers for reasons I won't get into right now, but if you're mainly a writer, you will enjoy a much quieter fandom experience. Wherever you post your stories—I recommend AO3; DM me if you need an invite—follow the same advice there as I've given here: make sure your work is tagged correctly; support your fellow Pompep fans by reading and commenting on their works, building that community; moderate comments if you're concerned about negativity; block and mute users if they give you any trouble, and you'll enjoy a much more positive fandom experience.

There is strength in community. When you start making new fandom friends, you'll feel a lot less lonely, and that will give you the confidence you need to really have a good time here.

Wishing you the best, anon!

[chengfagshi]

So uh, this is disgusting in so many ways. This anti is shipping a REAL 14 YEAR OLD WITH A REAL PEDOPHILE. Please report them on tiktok! THIS IS NOT OKAY. Some antis are actually calling them out for this but then you have the dumbasses being like "proshippers getting mad even though they do the same thing". SHIPPING FICTIONAL FUCKING CHARACTERS IS NOT THE SAME AS SHIPPING A REAL CHILD WITH A REAL PEDOPHILE. Some of y'all deserve to be fucking slapped and I'm not even joking.

Edit: And if you're wondering, this is the same fucker that posted proship minor's faces from that discord server!

[sak-spn]

Ewww!!! An anti found my post. Just an FYI rebloger, the whole problem is that they are not in fact "making art" they are taking art from other artists.

Make your own cute art, by all means. Just don't steal and screw up ther people's drawings just because you don't like them. News flash, they were never for you, so leave them alone!

Also you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be proship. It is a stance, pro (as in for) ship (the right to smash fictional characters together in a relationship) without being harassed over fiction, even darker ships that do not aline with our IRL values. No ship is 'a proship' and there is no such thing as 'proshipper art', one can simply be proship.

I see that you are too chronically online and too deep in your virtue signaling to understand this anti, but there is a thing called ✨️minding your own business✨️. Fiction is fiction for a reason (it's not real) and therefore anything goes. Maybe it's not for you and that's fine but that doesn't mean it's wrong and nobody should be allowed to enjoy it.

You know all those people who are "fixing proshipper art" are just stealing other peoples artwork. And in some cases exposing it to audiences it wasn't meant for and wouldn't have otherwise seen it. If anyone's harming kids with this it's them, by taking art from adult platforms (or restricted view) and reposting it in spaced filled with minors. With improper tagging to boot, thereby making it so much harder to avoid for people who don't want to see it. Make your own art if you don't like what you're seeing, stop being fucking lazy.

Also most of the shit I've seen people changing wasn't in any way 'sexual' of 'weird' in the first place, it makes me sad for them that they can't live on a world where they don't have to sexualise everything. I mean gees, it's natural and common to blush in so many contexts other than sex. Get your mind out of the gutter!

[hjbender]

The Four Discoursemen

[animentality]

[coulsonlives]

"Wah, why aren't fandoms fun anymore?"

Because you keep policing people's headcanons, making fun of them and calling them horrible things, and on top of that, you're somehow claiming to be a safe space for people to express their creativity, yet turning around and harassing them anyways because you've made a billion exceptions to the "don't police people" rule and you think, like everyone else who's made their own exceptions, that your exceptions justify harassment.

So you're making fandom into a field of rat traps where nobody even dares interact with anyone, or shares art anymore, because you still might just attack them for it because they did something as simple as writing a canonically soft character as... a softie.

Let people do their "cringe" y/a romances, let people do their "gross" ships, let people write those characters as jerks or softies. Let them, and mean it when you say you'll let them, instead of soapboxing about it in a patronizing post but not really meaning what you're soapboxing about.

[writinginthesecrettrees]

Ok, I'm gonna be REAL controversial for a second:

Saying "incest and underage fics are ok because it's usually CSA survivors recontextualizing/processing their own experience" is just purity culture lite. It's like saying "Birth control should be legal because some people use it for non-birth control related purposes" or "abortion needs to be legal because women can die without it."

Yes, these are TRUE and IMPORTANT things. But kind of... not the point?

Kind of giving way to the antis, the puritanical right, the misogynists who just want to control women (because you KNOW they aren't thinking about trans men or nonbinary people when they legislate abortion).

Lemme see if I can explain: by saying "look at this VALID and IMPORTANT reason someone might have for doing the thing you don't like," you are saying that there are invalid reasons for it. That some people shouldn't do it.

You are saying that it is objectively wrong, and that exceptions must be made for it to be okay. And putting aside the fact that NO ONE should have to disclose their personal trauma for judgement, that no one should have to disclose their personal medical history to a judge or legislator before receiving treatment... you are conceding the point.

I refuse to concede anything on this.

I like fucked up fic, I like being able to fuck without getting pregnant, I like that if my birth control fails I can still make a choice about whether or not I want to be pregnant and give birth. I WILL NOT go into my reasons on ANY of this. Because YOU do not have a right to that information, and I am also protecting the privacy of everyone else who does not want to share their reasons.

[lifemocksart]

i really dont understand how antis can say something like this to someone over a ship and then can convince themselves that theyre in the right for doing so

[briliantlymad]

I find that People who are incapable of separating fiction from reality are more dangerous than people who draw fucked up or horrifying stuff im not even kidding.

Because someone drawing incest porn does not wish death on others for not liking their freak but I've seen it from anti shippers and the "protect little kids" group time and again.

Genuinely it is horrifying to see grown ups or 20+ year olds piling onto a twt or post and telling someone to off themselves over a few drawings or a fic.

[jinglebellrockstars]

another anti was exposed as a real pedophile, this time the guy who spearheaded a harassment campaign against a queer artist for drawing invader zim porn, to the point where they were blacklisted from the animation industry and ended up on their death bed because they could no longer support themself financially. antis fucking disgust me and every accusation from them over some fucking drawings is just projection to hide how sick they are and all the actual flesh and blood lives they destroy

[wolveria]

Do not let the antishippers find the Got or House of the Dragon fandom cause they'll cry

Or Labyrinth, or Flowers in the Attic, or any one of Stephen King's books. It's almost as if the wider public understands that fiction can be both fucked up and entertaining without the need for a moral lesson following after, or that it's an indictment that you're going to partake in the things you read about.

Antis are so far removed from reality, and they have to remain that way in order to not have their beliefs constantly challenged and torn apart.

[myfandomrealitea]

"Proshippers harass everyone!"

My brother in christ antis will comb through tags looking for a proship post to scream about and harass the OP over the way a mother of three rakes through her middle child's head looking for nits after a school outbreak.

[billdipisjustanothership]

I'm getting tired of Antis being hypocritical bullies

So!

Let's open their eyes!

(and vent a little bit)

PROSHIP means:

"*To ship and let ship. Including* some romantic pairings that are deemed problematic, ships that involve pedophilia, incest, abusive relationships and other things like that"

*(I thought that was obvious but I guess it wasn't ^w^' Sorry for the mistake everyone!)

Meaning:

If Antis see BillDip as Proship

Then they should also see BillFord as Proship

Why?

Simple!

BillFord is Toxic, as they themselves say. Toxic as in Abusive. And so, part of the proship group

Bill hurts, terrorises, torments, emotionally and physically abuses Ford

Possessed his body to hurt him, electrocuted him, and so much more!

That is abuse. That's abusive behaviour. That's proship

They said it multiple times how much they love toxic old man yaoi or similar stuff

They love that BillFord is toxic, so they love Abusive relationships. Apparently. That is, unless they accept that liking a fictional problematic ship (like BillFord) is not the same as liking a real problematic relationship

Here you can read it clearly

They either start calling themselves proshipers too (they are by the actual definition if they ever bothered to goggle it) and stop going after Billdip shippers, or accept that BillDip shippers aren't pedophiles nor do they support it the same way they don't support abusive relationships just like it happens in BillFord!

(I'm not against BillFord and those who ship it btw, only those who bullies and harass billdip shippers)

If Antis still don't see what I mean, they are delusional. Delusional and hypocritical, apart from being the bad people because harassing complete strangers for liking a fictional ship they personally don't like is just ridiculous and very much harmful to real people, some of which are children themselves

When just blocking and not tagging the name of a ship that makes you personally uncomfortable is better and healthier for everyone!

Of course, that goes for any fandom and ships!

No more bullying and harassing, we're in the modern word, people! We're better than that!

(or at least I hope so!)

[chengfagshi]

I really need to vent because this shit is pissing me OFF. Okay, so I'm sure proshippers have heard about the proship server on discord or whatever. Basically, an anti joined, downloaded the selfies of these proshippers and posted it on tiktok for several thousands to see (it almost has 100K likes on tiktok). Now, disclaimer, I do not think taking selfies and posting them on discord with a bunch of strangers is a good idea. Especially considering a lot of these proshippers are minors. Like the owner of the discord server is 14, I believe. I don't think that's a good idea at all. SO an anti took those selfies and posted them for the world to see. 100% without permission and consent of these proshippers. And anytime someone on tiktok comments things like "Uhh, why are you posting kids' selfies", the comments are filled with this type of shit. Dumbfuck #1 is the one that posted the tiktok

[Image ID: "Why are we posting pictures of minors without their permission..." Dumbfuck #1: "Being a minor doesn't excuse being a bigot and a predator." End ID] Keep in mind, we're talking about...you guessed it, fictional characters. This is basically how Dumbfuck #1 sounds to me: "I have to protect the fictional minors from the very real minors by calling out and endangering said real minors". That's basically what Dumbfuck #1 is saying.

And here's Dumbfuck #2:

[Image ID: Person with a functioning brain: "Why are you posting images of minors without their consent tho?..." Dumbfuck #2: "I can tell you like kids." End ID]

I DON'T EVEN FUCKING KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN WITH THIS FUCKING SHIT. FIRST OF ALL, someone caring about the wellbeing of MINORS does not make them a pedophile, despite what you fucking idiots like to believe. And secondly, you are literally endangering MINORS by posting their selfies for the world to see, but you don't fucking give a shit, because you're more worried about them shipping fictional fucking characters together.