#anti helluva boss

[vivziepopcriticalconfessions]

"Vivziepop is the adult equivalent of that one kid in high school who will do anything to be popular. She’s always changing her characters and plots to suit whatever the most popular headcanon or ship is, even if it doesn’t make any sense"

Submitted by @madamefeu

[scientistservant]

[darwuzhere]

Amen!

I genuinely smile whenever I see this clip so here's this !!

[impperfectcritiques]

Another "problematic" crew member on spindle horse!

This dude is infamous in the TMNT community for drawing nsfw of the TEENAGE mutant ninja turtles [at some times TOGETHER]

So we got a rape fetishist, several lolicons, and a underage + incest shipper :)

Not looking good, I'll never respect this studio, especially since they quote themselves as " queer " while hiring people who legit fetishise and use it to excuse being nonces.

[catmeow06]

My collection of memes I made 

[redjoey1992]

Trust me, Donald Duck would've beat the shit out of Stella and Andrealphus for being so obnoxiously cartoonishly evil

[porcelaintoybox23]

Weird connection but I thought of Ned Stark from the asoiaf books. (Book 1 spoilers ig)

This man has a moral compass that he follows stringently. It's what gets him killed in the end. But, the one time he broke it was to save his daughter. He lied about being a traitor to keep Sansa safe. That is a father who loves his children.

"Stolas left in a rush because Blitzø could die in any second, he was scared and not thinking clearly"

Okay... he initially didn't think about Octavia and what would happen to her because he didn't want his fuck buddy to die. All that was on his mind was the guy he had successfully manipulated into a coercive relationship. Okay.

But then, Stolas doesn't even think about Via in the courtroom, before or during or after his song. She doesn't seem to be on his mind, not even as he thinks he's going to be beheaded. Stolas doesn't cry on his knees and plead to be set free for a few minutes so he could say goodbye to Via/spend his last moments with her. The only time Stolas remembers he has a daughter is when he (temporarily) loses everything.

He really has the nerve to say how he'd rather die than live without Blitzø (and how he is his "light"), his obsession and the victim of his abuse & emotional manipulation, and not even THINK about what would happen to his daughter without him, since Stella was apparently abusive from birth.

My guy Stolas doesn't try to reach Via and apologize for everything IN PERSON like he SHOULD HAVE, he doesn't desperately try to get to her to comfort her. Nope, he just sulks all the way to his victim's house and lets his victim take care of him, then looks hurt when he sees how Blitzø and Loona have a better father-daughter relationship. No shit? Blitzø hasn't ever neglected his daughter or made her feel invisible and/or an afterthought.

Just... fuck Stolas, man. He's a shit dad and a shit person.

[helluva-bored-critical]

There's been an uptick in fandom/critical fighting, I've noticed.

Whether you're a fan or a critic, this is a reminder that Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel are shows, at the end of the day, and you're all humans on the other side of our screens. Fightin' each other through passive aggressive takes, callin' each other names, and not respecting each other in the slightest ain't productive.

That critic or fan you see; maybe they've got a really bad take or a take you don't agree with. First, take a moment to not get angry at them. Have a respectful discussion with 'em, offer your point of view, and---most importantly---don't be a jackass.

"What if they were a jackass first?" Friend, don't fight fire with fire. If they keep bein' a jackass, you can block 'em, turn off your device, not reply, calm yourself down, and get back to living. Too many times I've witnessed or been a part of a warzone of a comment. And the jackass who keeps bein' a jackass; take a step back, question why you're being hostile, and continue the discussion respectfully. If you can't, then get back to living as well.

This goes out to the antis and the stans, too:

Antis, I get y'all don't enjoy either the show or Vivziepop, but there's tons of things in life to find joy in. Hate is fun and easy, but I promise it ain't good. Your head'll ache and you'll wear yourself down with hate. Start by questioning why you hate.

Stans, I get y'all love the shows or Vivziepop beyond fans, but it's always possible to love or hate too much. Love can turn to obsession, it'll eat you up, and rose tinted glasses will blind you of the red sirens of criticism. Start by questioning why you obsess.

Both stans and antis, let yourself get exposed to fair criticisms and good-hearted enjoyment, respectively. Different perspectives are healthy to get exposed to---it's why I'm first encouraging respectful discussion instead of "don't like; don't engage". That sorta mentality leads to echo chambers, and you won't grow your mindset. Y'all are extremes of the opposite ends. Extremism ain't ever good.

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I know this fandom causes a lot of division. It can get real toxic when unchecked. So y'all gotta remember to chill when needed. Critics ain't bad, and neither are fans. Some people have takes you don't like, and that's okay. Discuss 'em respectfully, don't resort to bein' a jackass, and remember that we all are people on the other side of our screens.

Have a good day, y'all.

[vivziepopcriticalconfessions]

"People hating on Via for not wanting to talk to her deadbeat dad who had to learn the same lesson twice and it didn't even stick? She deserves to be in a better show. Also Sinmas would've been my favourite episode if it didn't have the rest of the show for context"

Submitted by @largefound

[verboselocket38]

Since Sinsmas came out It gave me time to think about this and I came to the decision I am no longer watching Helluva Boss and Hazbin hotel to make critical posts of it anymore.

I tried and tried and tried to bring my love for the show as I discovered it years ago to be there as I countinue watching. But as I did, my love turned to hate, and the story's writing went from a funny assassination buisness to a Gacha Life Story thats shoves fanfic tropes in ever hole of the story and is telling me "how I should like a character" without giving me the chance to think for myself how they appeal to me.

Since stans keep gaslighting me into thinking this show is good, glosses over Viv's bad behavior saying she "debunked" allegations when it reality she just denied it with no proof whatsoever, and how they attack anyone towards critisms. I am tired. I get the same old responses of people saying "Umm... If you dont like it dont watch it!"

I ignored it up till this point because guess what? I will. Because if this show is deemed as "Good writing", I might as well go somewhere else where Im not being gaslit and overtime have internal anger and irritation. One show justifies cheating and promote a higher class rapist relationship, the other is saying rapists and pedophiles can go to heaven if they feel bad about it. The fanbase and show is somehow both more mysoginistic than Adam COMBINED. And what pisses me off most is that NOBODY in the Vivziepop community EVER talked about Shay or the other people in the community who were bullied to suicide.

Anyway to end this off you might still see me lingering the tags or whatnot, but Im not posting any more things in the critical tag and just going to stop watching HH and HB, there is literally no point. I dont know if anyone actually will care that I leave the tags or if any of my points have ever made a difference, but from the year I've been here its been pretty ok from my experience. Imma just start posting Loonatics Unleashed rewrite stuff, Ocs, Ratchet and Clank, Sonic, or just things I like. I dont know if pepple will care that much for it as the critical stuff (The most notes I ever get are from these tags lol) but honestly I need time to meditate and control my feelings. With that being said, have a good day ❤️

[greml1nb0i]

She's supposedly a Peacock. Honestly Stella and Andre are both really bad.

What kind of bird is Stella even supposed to be? I don’t know if the ambiguity of her species was intentional or if I should just chop it up to Viv’s artstyle being dogshit

[scientistservant]

Once again the Skeksis would laugh in Stolas’ face and call him a bitch

[exhelluvafan]

Same anon from before, i was actually thinking of an albino crow i just forgot the word for it lol.

Oh, thanks for the clarification, Anon! Here's an albino crow for reference.

I can see the resemblance with Stella though, and funnily enough, I never knew that albino crows existed until today, so thanks for the fun fact, Anon!

[scenegirlshooter2]

Hello as someone who is actually into "edgy"/ "gory"/"violent"/"raunchy" and offensive media/stuff [splatterpunk, old-school crp, tcc,grindhouse, old fanfics, blackmetal,old school scene c09, re/sh,] I love every single one of you vivizepiss antis keep up the great work

[punkymaysnark]

Yeah.

How DARE Octavia feel heartbroken that her own father chooses to die for some random bastard he met as a kid over living with her.

How DARE she not trust him after he broke a VERY personal promise to her.

How DARE she be angry at him for abandoning her to her abusive mother and uncle for, again, a random bastard he met as a kid.

How DARE she let her self-loathing issues peek through and assume that her father takes those anti-depression pills because of her, after one parent made ZERO effort to communicate his mental struggles with her, and the other parent barely gives her the time of day when she and her brother aren't gloating about her daughter's sadness.

How DARE she have NO REASON to trust Stolas again after Mastermind, where he, after promising her with all his heart that he would never run away with a random imp she doesn't even know, RAN AWAY WITH A RANDOM IMP SHE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW.

HOW DARE SHE BE A FUCKING 17 YEAR OLD IN A BROKEN FAMILY, AFTER HAVING HER HEART STOMPED ON BY HER OWN FATHER. HOW DARE SHE ACT ACCORDINGLY.

I-I what......I-okay I give up

[catmeow06]

How the helluva boss fandom just completely shits on octavia and not actually getting mad at stolas for being a neglectful father reminds me when the spooky month episode hollow sorrows came out earlier this year and everyone got mad at father Gregor for calling out Lila for being a irresponsible mother and yes while his words were a little harsh Lila honestly needed a wake up call because while is she definitely a better parent than owl face ass over there Lila idea of parenting is not good and sometimes gets her son skid in dangerous situations in some of the episodes