#spindlehorse criticism

[theoddest1]

Throwback to when Zeurel, creator of Monkey Wrench, made vague posts about Viv.

This was one of the last responses to her that I found long ago.

[Nice irony, Viv. Almost understood why people don'ttrust anything coming out of your mouth. The only thing wrong is that, in this case, you're FULLY aware of your actions and refuse to shine the light on yourself.]

Here's Zeurel in recent times regarding anything tied to Viv

Here is Zeurel during Viv being exposed for being buddy buddy with Raph, one of her animators/story board artists who has a rape fetish

[kawaiitail-chan]

I saw this peak masterpiece in my fyp LMAO!

[uniquepeanutcreatorfire]

For people saying Viv is a changed person, please consider looking at this (found this on X):

[starlight-bread-blog]

I know we aren't supposed to cheer but... TELL HIM!!

[artisticdoofusxx]

Real picture of Viv trying not to make a POC religious figure into a skinny white blonde guy

[wimpywompythethird]

I really hate the idea of Valentino or the other V’s being redeemed. It makes far more sense for them to remain irredeemable because it would teach Charlie an essential lesson: not everyone can be saved and more importantly, not everyone wants to be. Some people genuinely enjoy being bad—Valentino, Velvette, and Vox are perfect examples. They thrive in their wickedness because it’s fun and empowering for them. For Charlie, whose entire philosophy revolves around the belief that “everyone can be redeemed,” facing people like them would force her to confront the harsh reality that her ideals have limits.

These characters are in Hell for a reason and even if their damnation was unfair, they’re still objectively awful beings in Hell. Valentino is a rapist, an abuser and a terrible boss. Vox is another manipulative, power-hungry boss who uses mind control to manipulate people and likely turns a blind eye to Valentino’s abuse of Angel Dust. Meanwhile, Velvette manufactures the date-rape drugs that Valentino uses on Angel and most likely manipulates the media to twist narratives, according to the leaks. They don’t need tragic backstories or trauma to justify their evil—they’re simply bad people by choice. And honestly, the “But they’re villains!” argument doesn’t really hold water here. Even Cannibal Town didn’t care about Charlie’s redemption plan until Alastor mentioned they could eat the angels. Sometimes, evil people just stay evil and that’s a reality that Charlie needs to face.

[xjulixred45x]

Spindlehorse's lazyness to actually make a scene and not copy-paste/tracing already existing scene FROM THEIR OWN UNIVERSE is Amazing.

[imaginative-123]

I want to pull my hair. This fanbase is Cooked.

Edit: Minors do not interact, reblog or like my post bc I will block you.

Are we seriously watching the same show?

There's no way you ignore Valentino 🍇🍇🍇 Angel Dust, or watching it with your eyes close or just making an ass out for yourself. This is the same fanbase that will tell you that you lacked media literacy while also having questionable and infuriating takes like this. It's even worse that Viv feels the need to speak that she cares about SA Survivors when in reality she lied. Man I hate this fanbase it makes me wish I lived in another planet.

[neko-loogi]

Vivziepop did her dirty.. but they could never make me hate her

[helluverse-rewrites]

I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him

He's so whiny and spoiled and ungrateful and he's so annoying and I hate him

[theoddest1]

Lmaoooo

Edit:

Samantha is a Story Artist, Animator, and Animation BFA who works for Viv on both HH and HB.

2nd Edit: Some of y'all need to chill in the comments with certain things you say. It ain't finna make any point come across decently with how you spread some info. I get being mad at some of the reactions, don't get me wrong, but bring it back down slow plz.

[floralcavern]

I once had a dream that I was a writer for Spindlehorse and we were writing a Millie centered episode surrounding her pregnancy and I was pitching a bunch of ideas they were shooting down and they eventually told me “Look, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but this isn’t a Millie centered episode. Think of it as Moxxie as the pregnant one.” And I was fired and I tried telling people about what happened but then I was sued for breaking my NDA

[uniquepeanutcreatorfire]

Check out this Sinsmas rewrite

[starlight-bread-blog]

When have you ever looked down on him? Gee I wonder when...

This entire episode plays out as if Blitzø is in the wrong for assuming that Stolas is bigoted against imps when time and time again, Stolas proved he IS bigoted.

[strangegardendelusion]

NO!?!? BECAUSE THAT IS A INSANE TAKE!??!

She is a child, and stolas is an adult who has made his bed and has to deal with the consequences of said choices

(Even though I admit octavia, fears of abandonment have been shown and resolved way too many times. I blame the show writing for not giving her more to do other than being a plot device)

It has been proven time and time again that octavia is not the most confident in believing stolas won't abandoned her and run off with blitz

And what does stolas do with his actions without hesitating to prove his daughter wrong and he will never leave... abandoned her and left to save blitz life

Then, once he begins his new life with blitz, he forgets about her until the mention of rats got him to remember to call her.

(Honestly, I was confused later on when stella was like, "he trying to call all month." So, like, did stolas forget about via only that day or week? The timeline is very confusing.)

Once again, proving his fantasies with blitz are more important than octavia.

A good father would be doing everything he could to make sure he gets his daughter back as fast as possible. Especially if his daughter is in the custody of two people who try to kill him.

He would be getting a lawyer, trying to get court to rehear everything out, and of course, try to get his daughter forgiveness even if it takes years to rebuild.

But stolas does nothing but cry because he poor the entire episode...

[wimpywompythethird]

I cannot stress enough how hypocritical Vivziepop and a large portion of both of her fandoms are when it comes to deciding who “deserves” to be recognized as a sexual assault survivor. Vivzie has publicly stated, “I support and respect all survivors,” yet she writes scenes where characters are sexually assaulted for laughs, only treating the issue seriously when it suits her narrative.

Vivziepop: “I support all survivors!”

Also Vivziepop: Creates an entire scene where a character is forcibly dragged into a room—presumably to be sexually assaulted while visibly struggling, clawing at the floor and repeatedly saying “no,” making it absolutely clear that he wants nothing to do with it. All of this is framed as comedy, serving no purpose other than to be a cheap, tasteless joke.

The number of people defending this with “it’s meant to be funny!” is absolutely appalling and then there’s the fandom’s go-to excuse:

“Well, Sir Pentious wasn’t actually raped, so—”

SO NOTHING! Attempted rape is sexual assault. He was dragged away against his will. Sexual assault isn’t just rape—it’s any non-consensual sexual act or advance and in this case, it was absolutely sexual assault. The way people in this fandom dismiss his experience just because “it didn’t go all the way” is horrifying. Do they even understand what survivors go through? Do they realize that sexual assault encompasses so much more than just rape? What about groping? What about coercion? What about sexual harassment? Or is it just easier for them to ignore the reality because the scene was “supposed to be funny”?

That is not support. That is not respect. That is minimizing sexual violence for the sake of a cheap laugh and it’s absolutely disgusting.