#spindlehorse criticism

[doodler16]

At this point, Vivziepop should take down the “live print signing” no one can even watch or access the video anyway.

[strangegardendelusion]

Does anyone remember that velvette supposed to be a witch/potion maker?

I sure didn't!

I was checking her wiki because I wanted to include something about her during a conversation with my friend.

And I read about how she made love potions with the help of Valentino. And then I remember the whole she is a witch/influencer/fashion designer.

I don't know whether making her have a talent in potion making is a good idea when everyone forgets. Or it mashed in with her other stuff.

[theoddest1]

Lmaoooo

Edit:

Samantha is a Story Artist, Animator, and Animation BFA who works for Viv on both HH and HB.

2nd Edit: Some of y'all need to chill in the comments with certain things you say. It ain't finna make any point come across decently with how you spread some info. I get being mad at some of the reactions, don't get me wrong, but bring it back down slow plz.

[kawaiitail-chan]

I saw this peak masterpiece in my fyp LMAO!

[uniquepeanutcreatorfire]

Check out this Sinsmas rewrite

[xjulixred45x]

Spindlehorse's lazyness to actually make a scene and not copy-paste/tracing already existing scene FROM THEIR OWN UNIVERSE is Amazing.

[helluverse-rewrites]

I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him

He's so whiny and spoiled and ungrateful and he's so annoying and I hate him

[starlight-bread-blog]

I know we aren't supposed to cheer but... TELL HIM!!

[artisticdoofusxx]

Real picture of Viv trying not to make a POC religious figure into a skinny white blonde guy

[imaginative-123]

Vivziepop glazers will basically downvote you and make excuses if you call out the sexist writing on how Viv writes her gay men, btw this is from r/CharacterRant

Edit: Minors do not interact, reblog or like my post bec I will block you.

I'm pretty sure if OP posted it in the main sub Hazbin Hotel, he might as well get downvoted for sure despite being an SA Victim. Viv Glazers surely never failed to disappoint me and I'm so glad Tumblr exist bc this is the website where you're allowed to rant about Viv and her shows. FUCK THIS SHIT MAN. Maybe Viv Glazers should learn that people have different perspectives and actual issues in her works. VIV is not a SAINT OR GOD you GLAZERS! GET THAT IN YOUR DAMN HEAD FUCK I HATE THIS FANBASE IT JUST MADE ME MAD.

Edit: About to go to sleep since I will finish my work tom my comment just got 16 upvotes I guess glazers must've realized I got a point LMAO.

Also the comments that got downvoted who point out the issues in Viv's writing got upvoted including OP's comment on Stolitz in regards to sexual coercion since there's also a person who denied the r@pe got upvoted before hours later got downvoted and it shocked me why people would upvote that comment that screams mental gymastics to defend a Ship that is made through sexual coercion that includes the class difference and power dynamic. The post from CharacterRant sub got people's opinions turn into 180 I guess bc they realized the other people like me who point out the issues and have concerns about the show might as well have a reason the shows that Viv write is not really good most especially when it's related to queer representation and SA.

Lastly the point of this post is to showcase the double standards in the fandom on how they view criticisms most especially when you apply that to stans/glazers who refused to see the actual criticisms and think it's mixed with the so called "haters" when I myself am a fan of Viv's work but also recently gotten more critical bc the roses tinted glass fell off when I start to analyze Viv's behavior online including her shows. So if you think this post is just whiny, egotistical and immature, sure tell me that, I'm not perfect and I accept that but that wouldn't changed my issues with the Standom's behavior that invalidates valid criticisms that critics like me have been voicing for years nor how the Fanbase has gotten even way more toxic over the discourse surrounding Viv's immature behavior including how divided the fanbase is, let's not forget the Standom's cultish behaviour to defend Vivziepop from any form of valid criticism, btw I also don't agree with other critics all the time but I can also see when there is criticism that is valid. So before anyone accuses critics for being "haters" maybe try and understand where we were coming from, the people became critics are also fan of Viv's work, if I was truly a hater then I wouldn't reblogged or like fanarts of the show including listening to musicals from Viv's work, just bc I'm a fan doesn't mean I have no right to voice my concerns over Viv including her work. Sometimes Stans should understand that fans can like the work but also criticize it.

Also the mods from CharacterRant removed the post from an SA Victim, damn for a sub that is supposed to make essays of your issues from any media, they would sure remove a post from an SA Victim's issues with Angel Dust's character. Truly the most Hypocritical moment from that sub.

[carto0ncritter]

Not sure if anyone's noticed this but...

Why does Blitzø look like a bad guy, while Stolas looks like a 'uwu cute sweet gay boy'

Also why is Stolas placed in the middle, like he's the main character? Last time I checked, that was supposed to be Blitz- oh yeah, this is now the Stolas show. HOW COULD I FORGET (sarcasm)

[strangegardendelusion]

So, to be honest, do we even know stella species supposed to be? I mean, her brother is a peacock, but stella looks nothing like a female peacock.

> I took the 3 biggest guesses on what she supposed to be swan, peacock (peahens), and secretary bird to see what matches her more

> stella beak matches the swan beak

> her long eye lashes matches sercerty bird long eye lashes

> stella dress I put a question mark on because it quite a hot mess of feathers that could be all 3

> stella arm sleeve remind me of the servertary bird legs

> her hair reminds me of when peahen show off their back feathers like the male peacock. But halfway though, I decided that sounded insane, so I also put a question mark on her, saying it could be all 3.

I decided to include pilot stella and see how much she looked like a peahen.

> I realized the crown thing both pilot and canon stella wear could be based on crown looking thing on top of the peahen head

> her face marking where it goes down her face really looks peahen face markings

> again, with my theory, her hair is based on peahen showing off their back feathers like the male peacock

> pilot stella eyeshadow matches the blue on peahen neck

> the gray on her dress also match the gray on peahen body

> the white on stella matches peahen white as well

My theory:

I do believe pilot stella species is peahen, but when they started to redesign her for the show, the team decided to make her a hybrid of some kind.

However, while typing this, I realized if stella is a hybrid, that means her brother andrealphus is a hybrid as well.

Unless, of course, andrealphus is her half-brother or stepbrother. But the show does implied they are blood related.

So, I'm also leaning towards stella is actually a peahen. The team just had difficulty designing her to look like one, so they just picked the best one.

[teeth-cable]

OG Thread

Thread is not mine, I’m reposting this here for critical and educational purposes as it’s very important to amplify minorities’ critiques and voices.

Another thing I want to share is Viv blocked OP and this is his take on her Mimzy tweet.

Also even though OP didn't point it out in their thread, Rosie is an antisemitic stereotype too. She falls under the Jewish mother and blood libels stereotypes explained by another Jewish user. (Link to their thread)

Reading over Rosie's leaked character sheet and watching the show, you can see how she is those stereotypes. (TBH I don't think it can get anymore obvious Viv, at least knew she was coding Rosie as Jewish with the line,"Rosie has the strong presense of a confident energy of a Jewish mother.")

[tocomplainfriend]

SPREAD THIS

Critical argument that went and ask for the experience of people that worked in the shows. How they don't have an actual running Human resources, it's just one guy friends with Viv (Neylan) who gave damn shitty responses to every question. READ IT PLEASE, Pass it around!

(It's a person outside of fandom bubble writting this stuff too)

Full-blown confirmation of the pay discord messages by Neylan

(also Viv has tried to make people not work in other indie stuff too)

This sounds so republican as fuck too:

Gaming company?

[uniquepeanutcreatorfire]

Fandom: VIV GETS HATE FOR NO REASON

Reasons: Toxic workplace allegations, not addressed

Appropriating a closed religion that’s been demonized by Hollywood for years (also making a profit off it)

Burning bridges with other artists/friends (one that implied she was abusive)

Going to animal cafes in Japan with abused and neglected animals

Supporting businesses (Starbucks) that are against Palestine then posting on social media

Liking tweets referring to people as sub-human

Liking tweets referring to criticism as hate or defending from valid criticism

Not giving certain physical features to POC/POC-coded characters in their design to indicate they are POC/POC-coded and also using harmful stereotypes

Fandom: SHE GETS HATE FOR NO REASON!!!



[helluverse-rewrites]

Me looking at most of the heaven cast