#helluva boss critique

[uniquepeanutcreatorfire]

Found another rewrite of Stolas and Octavia’s fight 🔥🔥

[exhelluvafan]

Viv: "My shows aren't aimed at children, they're only intended to be seen by adults and adults only!"

Also Viv: *literally interacts with a child fan in a supposedly adult only space for an "adult" show*

Wow, such a role model and completely not a hypocrite, am I right?

[floralcavern]

I don’t know what’s worse. People saying Octavia is a bitch cockblock who deserves the worst, or the people saying “Just give her time, she’ll come around”. Because at least the first person is open with how awful of a person they are. The second person comes off as so fucking condescending though. Both invalidate Octavia’s decision in the end, so.. ya.

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

One Big Ick Factor When It Comes To Shipping Abel And Saint Peter

Besides pushing out the fact he was a married man in the Bible, it's also the fact that all humans are descendants from his brothers which includes Abel which would make it incest if it was canon. Seriously, I don't buy the far enough bs that is still kind of icky.

[luciferanalyzestar]

Is it just me or do the mooks working for Crimson in Oops feel less like they're his new members and more like he's trying to rope other mafia clans that he knew of to join his empire?

Probably. Most of the unnamed members are not sharks and look like lizards. I hope we see more of the greed ring, most of the background characters in Opps are dinosaur or lizard like which is an odd choice due to Mammon looking like clown.

Like the citizens of gluttony, wrath, envy, and sloth look like/have the vibe of the Sins that rules those rings, but greed and lust do not. Not counting Lucifer into this because he is a fallen angel.

Shout out to these guys who look more like a threat than Crimson will never be. They just scream "mafia".

[wormedrabidnerd]

I know why

It's because Viv thinks trans men are confused girls

(From left to right: Cole, Clifford. Copper, Clay, and Sallie Mae)

Something I noticed is despite Millie having 4 brothers and 1 sister, Copper doesn't seem to show up in the episodes involving Millie's family despite the others being there

(Clay was shown at Sallie Mae's introduction scene)

I wonder if the crew removed him or if it's just an error. I'm aware it's a small thing compared to the rest, but it's pretty odd considering how he has a reference and everything (although this is the same studio that erased Cole's transgender identity, so who knows if we're going to get an answer.)

[friendlyfire454]

I just realised..

if i were writen by Vivziepop i would hated to death. Not just because i am a woman who doesn't a whiny prince to walk all over me, but also because i have a shitty relationship with my bio dad.

For context my bio dad sold drugs and i feel Vivziepop would make that into 'TrAgIc BaCkStOrY UwU' and make my bio dad into some sort of anti-hero.

Sorry for the lore drop just needed to get it out of my system

[alex-rewrites-hellaverse]

The Goetias

The Goetias are a long line of once fallen angels but now considered high ranked hellborn, being there when hell began and keeping an iron grip on their power, in all subjects and forms. With being around so long many families fall under the category of Goetia, not all related to one another. Each family has their own relationship to the deadly sins, and within those the members have their own thoughts.

Paimon

A powerful member of the Ars Goetia he is one of the higher ranking, with magical abilities that truly make him worthy of the title. He's one of the few close to the Magne family in any capacity, called on to assist Lucifer and his family for any number of things, and due to that stays near their castle in his own home, ready to be called upon whenever they need.

One of these was a favor to the prince of the Magne family, who'd been friends with the previous Stolas- a title rather than a name- to care for the egg that the prince's friend was no longer alive to care for. As Paimon had for centuries he took the favor with no question, though once the chick hatched he quickly regretted his choice, leaving the child to the care of his staff instead, in the familial home his parents had left him.

To secure the family's future, as this was not the first Stolas to die young, he arranges a marriage for the prince to give him a cautionary heir, a fact he keeps from the child for many years.

Stolas

Named after his title by a parental figure who he never got to know well, Stolas was already starting his life off roughly. Having a whole manor to himself and the staff also had him growing up mostly separated from the royal life aside from when Goustav, the imp who raised him more than Paimon ever did, made him leave the house in attempts to get him to socialize with others of his status.

His main contact to another Goetia was his bride-to-be, Stella Darvon, and neither ever really cared for the other, though did try to get along for the most part. He taught her what her parents refused to, annoyed at how little they determined she'd need to know as an adult. Up until they had to say their I dos they were going ok, then cracks began to form as the pressure for an heir was truly on them. In this time they began to pull apart from one another, and Stolas found comfort in liquor at this time. By the time Octavia hatched the couple were in their own wings of the manor, both attempting to keep their child in the dark about how deep the issues go, brushing their separate rooms as just wanting their own spaces.

Both know nothing on raising a child but Stolas is insistent that Octavia is to not be raised as either of them were, hating how it had left both of them. He tries to give Octavia all of his attention any time of day, let them live as a child not an heir, however it does lead to them being unprepared for what they'll have to do once of age, but he isn't facing that, as he does most issues.

Stella

From hatching through her childhood only one aspect of her was ever appreciated, her beauty. It was the only thing her family cared for about her, dozens of paintings around their home being of just her dressed in the nice dresses her mother bought her, the makeup applied in delicate strokes that would easily be smudged, the fans she learned the language of, things of the like. Things for her beauty and for her future husband were all she was really taught by her parents, her brother always reassuring her that this would be for the best, that it was what she was born to do!

When she finally met her groom she felt.. nothing about him. Not that spark her family was saying she'd get, she didn't care for him. Though she was grateful when nearing their wedding he caught her up on several things her family failed to teach her, reading, writing, tasks of the similar nature. Despite the good he did, and how her family kept claiming he was perfect for her, she never agreed.

During their attempts to conceive, and his apathy of the whole thing she could only let it grow more and more, like a plant trying to eat her like a fly. So, she turned her focus elsewhere, establishing herself amongst the Goetia she was now of rank with, making friends, throwing parties both large and small to entertain, hook herself in her rank as a safety net. After Octavia hatched she and him grew to an understanding, they'd raise their child unlike their parents, find a way to keep her happy. She didn't go about it as Stolas did, showing her affections in more material ways, getting her clothes she liked, shopping with her, getting into the physical hobbies she had to try to understand her, though that did mean for the first years Stolas was the closer parent. That was fine, she was making her place now.

Octavia

They were never quite like the other children, they'd always known that. Not just in the gender sense, but in their family dynamic, a core memory is coming home from a friend's house the first time and asking their parents why they didn't share a room when their friends' parents did. The lie of them just having very different likes didn't hold up as they grew, but they didn't think about it much. They tried to never really think about it, how weird their family was compared to their friends'.

That was only their parents too, their extended ones ere just as odd. Their grandfather lived far away, almost with the Magne family. heir other grandparents weren't allowed around them, but if their uncle was anything to go by it was for the best. He's always talking about their mother's beauty, and their own, something that ruffled their feathers enough for them to avoid him on his visits. He's grown more mellow, they find they like him much more now.

They'd learned, through overhearing calls and conversations, that they were to be the next Stolas some day. They still don't know all that entails, their father not telling them, but they try to practice for what they do know it involves, the Grimoire, and their magic. Their father takes a liking to their starry magic, though they are much more drawn to the gemstones involved. They've begun adding gems to their clothing since finding this love, though let the sapphires stay as their father's gem.

Andrealphus

Without much coloration and stuck at the level of a marquis he wasn't made to get very far in the ranks, leaving him only to give an heir to carry on the family line, which leads to his preferences in a partner to not matter. He doesn't let it affect him on the outside, keeping his head held high and doing what he can to socially bring himself up the ranks, teaching his younger sister some tricks for her own life.

He still makes odd comments to her, but those are due to how they were raised. Her job is to be beautiful, and a good wife, he compliments her on those things as they're all he notices to. He does care for his sister, not in a regular way of course, but he shows that he does in a handful of ways, from the compliments, to keeping secrets for her from their family, and allowing her to his palace to vent her frustrations.

The last one has a secondary motive however. A part of his domain is astrology, just like the prince his sister has married, and that is the one thing that has truly ruffled his feathers. All he has is ice powers, mathmatics, and astrology and a fucking prince has one of those and so much more. He tries to keep his thoughts to only those close to him, barely keeping his temper when he does visit Stella and her heir. Every single bit of dirt he can get on Stolas he keeps, waiting for when to begin those rumors, though they never truly get far.

[v0id-clawz]

Half tempted to make an Octavia edit to I'm Just Your Problem tbh

[66kenobi66]

Here's some good Hazbin/Helluva critical videos I've seen (since it's so hard to find good ones on YT)

(Both are by GalXE!)

(Left one is by HezuReviews, right is by Autistic Swag!)

(Both are by Madeline Maye!)

(Both are by Cassidy Whiskey!)

Please go check these people out, all of them are extremely talented. Some of them even shared some insight and clever criticism into this series that I hadn't even thought of! (I especially like the Madeline Mayne ones as they poke into how both HB and HH fail at their queer representation.)

[kawaiitail-chan]

I saw this peak masterpiece in my fyp LMAO!

[floralcavern]

Oh my god an undead gamer is a really obnoxious Vivziepop stan that harasses critics constantly. If you’ve seen ANY critical video of Vivziepop’s works, he’s probably there being extremely hyper aggressive and rude. Of course he’s on AO3 as well

I did not know that about him. I will say, I checked out his AO3 and saw that he’s written a fic where Emberlynn was pimped out by Valentino, so, I don’t give a shit was he has to say about my fic

[autumnteawithfriends]

The Pinterest side of HH/HB slander is underrated

As a bonus, some GOATED comments

(NOTE! None of these were made by me and I cropped some images so stans don’t harass these people)

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Stolas, Tell Us More How You Don't Look Down On Blitzo

After trying to paint Blitzo as wrong for treating him as a classist racist, the Sinmas episode shows he still insults Blitzo being poor. Again way to defeat your defense if you are trying to use that as a joke. And if this was pre-Mastermind Blitzo he really would use this as a leverage that Stolas is still the classist pos he's always been and hasn't really changed.

[carto0ncritter]

One thing I noticed in this shitshow of an episode is how fucking ungrateful Stolas was for everything Blitzø did for him since he came to his place.

Him being a spoiled rich white asshole:

I hate his facial expressions so much, you have no idea

I can guarantee you care about these 'nice things' more than you care about your daughter btw

Oh, we also have, let's see here...

*insert the entire montage of Blitzø (Stolas' victim) trying to cheer his abuser up since he's now in love with him thanks to good ol' Stockholm Syndrome*

Seeing that cigarette reminds me of when Stolas uh... *checks notes* called Blitz an 'itty bitty imp (racist)' despite him clearly hating it, grabbed his cheek and used his horn to put out his cigarette (not to mention Blitzø's severe trauma being related to fucking fire)

Okay so anyway, I think Stolas said "Oh, when have you ever asked" bc Blitzø stole from him and his family 25 years ago. correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it manipulative af to bring up smth that happened that long ago, also it's totally unrelated to the current situation. I swear it's like a grown ass man saying to another "Oh I still hate you because, uhm, remember that one time in 3rd grade when you stole my pencil..."

So... if Stolas still holds this against Blitzø, let me ask: why was he ever "in love" with him in the first place? Answer? He wasn't. Stolas only used this imp for his sexual fantasies and for him to get to experience his "fairytale romance"

P.S. Imps are a race his privileged ass has always been racist towards and he hasn't ever attempted to, uh... try to understand them better? Understand how they live? I mean if you truly cared about your "boyfriend," Stolas, you'd have put in SOME effort to change your mindset/behavior and WOULDN'T HAVE EVER SEXUALLY COERCED HIM

He also r@p*d you blitz

And no he didn't do much, he's powerful af. Using those powers isn't rocket science heck he turned an imp to stone in s1 he can protect himself but is apparently the "bottom" in the stolitz "relationship". Also no, him leaving Octavia clearly isn't a huge deal to Stolas otherwise he'd have fought to earn her forgiveness and not just sulk like a wimpy loser. YOU ARE NOT ONLY A GROWN MAN STOLAS, BUT A FATHER. At least you were supposed to be

So was not thinking about your daughter until you lost everything, apparently

AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT??? WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A TRANSACTION AGAIN

Alright I'm signing off until the next season drops, if that ever happens

This episode sucked, but kudos to our girl Via who was smart enough to see through her "father's" bs 👏

ALSO HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO THE CRITICAL COMMUNITY (and to non-toxic stans too)!

[helluvaartcritique]

Honestly, I miss when Helluva Boss used to be about IMP killing humans. It had a lot of potential, but it's all wasted so that Stolas can all have the screentime.