#helluva boss critique

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

Honestly, Hooray for Hell is the only good cartoon that presents us with hell as it is.

Here's some good Hazbin/Helluva critical videos I've seen (since it's so hard to find good ones on YT)

(Both are by GalXE!)

(Left one is by HezuReviews, right is by Autistic Swag!)

(Both are by Madeline Maye!)

(Both are by Cassidy Whiskey!)

Please go check these people out, all of them are extremely talented. Some of them even shared some insight and clever criticism into this series that I hadn't even thought of! (I especially like the Madeline Mayne ones as they poke into how both HB and HH fail at their queer representation.)

[floral-cavern]

I swear, this newest episode of Helluva is just the perfect example of how Viviziepop can’t let men face consequences. Millie was right, they have a job to do. The guy cheated, but it’s ok because he’s gay and he’s a man! Because suddenly Blitz has a moral compass about who to kill. And, of course, the woman who was the victim of the cheating had to be an absolute bitch who everyone hates. Because of fucking course.

[officeobject]

I personally wouldn't be able to wear, like, most of the Hellaverse character' outfits, because, like, nice top, Loona, that thing is rip and the string is gonna be cut within a week, by me, and I'm the OPPOSITE of athletic (I have no idea what I do though).

[friendlyfire454]

Shut up Moxxie, you will never be Zim

Sorry for bad handwritting

[officeobject]

Can confirm. I saw this post before I had been jumping in.

"The name "Helluva Boss" doesn't even make sense anymore. It's not about how Blitzø is the boss of I.M.P., so anyone jumping in now would be pretty confused as to what the hell the name of the show is actually referring to"

Submitted by @haunted-plush

[arteicetb]

I’m done…

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

If Stella Wasn't A One Dimensional Bitch, She So Would Be Like Leah When It Comes To Having Her Child's Father Be A Deadbeat Loser Who Always Prioritizes Himself Over Her

Stella: Chasing Love. Ha! He's a fool. He's been out there chasing love, but he can't even see that he had the greatest one of all right in front of him.You.

Octavia (sniffles): Mom? Thanks for always being here. And now... I "mustache" you to give me a hug.

Stella: Oh! Good.

Octavia (sniffles)

In another series, Stella would be portrayed as a mom who has to deal with the bs from her husband cheating on her and still trying to comfort her daughter as she gets neglected by him. Seriously, AU where Octavia and Stella deserve better than be used as narrative pawns and are their own characters.

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

And there's Sallie May who is the worst trans representation i've seen in my entire life, and Viv's stans have the same level as her.

Hello! I am currently trying to make a document including all evidence of Viv's problematic behaviour, and since you're quite popular in the critical community, I wanted to ask your opinion on the structure of it. If I missed anything feel free to correct me!

Vivziepop is a horrible person

I-early signs

-Nazi sausage party ocs (inspred by doctor Mengele, following a nazi blog

-drawing Kesha and glorifying her illness

-Zoophobia (contains the Addison drawings, Mirage being depicted as goofy when she's a pedo, Sahara and Latika designs

-supporting blaire white and Shoe0nhead (her too since Shoe has recently been revealed as a neo nazi)

-transphobia (discord messages)

-drawing Mimzi as a caricature/stereotype of Jewish people

II-Spindlehorse & twitter

-Raphielle shipping valangel, saying their a proshipper and still working on SH

-Following multiple proshippers, including someone who used audios of REAL kids for his digital CP and someone who actively ships Rick/Morty

-allowing and encouraging the harrasment of people who critique her shows to the point they are forced to come out or receive rape threats

-Blaming A24 for the lack of competent advertisement on Hazbin Hotel and replacing the voice cast

-encouraging harassing Erin Frost and Kendraw for coming out with their experience with her

-Studio reviews revealing the nepotism and abuse in the SH studio

III- The shows

-finn/ cole was made cis when he was originally trans

-sally mae only regarded by the fandom as a trap or futa, sexualised in every piece of her merch with her dick being emphasized to the point the fandom fetishizes her

-alastor being made creole or mixed as an afterthought, when Viv had already used real life voodoo symbols, very clearly inspiring alastor from Wendigos without any research, made him white as paper and depicted him as the 100th " asexual and aromantic person is an evil murderer!".

His asexuality and possible aromanticism is always ignored by the fandom in favor of shipping, and inclusive Vivziepop even said to do as they pleased with his sexuality for shipping.

-forced positivity, pushing the idea that even murderers, abusers and horrible people can change hazbin hotel

Depicting abuse (Crimson hitting Moxxie, the whole Valangel tag existing) and sexual assault (again woth Moxxie and angel) as funny jokes or sexy

-Noticing a pattern, Viv tends to promote M/M relationships a lot but depicts them as overtly sexual, predatory and toxic, and seems to have a problem with having "twink" characters abused sexually in a yaoi-ish way (Addison, Moxxie and Angel, Vox. Stolas/blitz too.)

-the only two people of color that are confirmed are Alastor, Velvette and Valentino. Velvette's color is very ashy and she is often infantilised (this might have more to do with her being a woman in Vivs eyes) she presents no POC features at all, neither does Valentino who is a stereotypical black man who is a pimp, abusive (sexually too) and has a short temper.

-using "it's hell " as an excuse to make horrible characters to glorify and depict as the true victim while doing nothing to become better. (Ex. Stolas is a rapist , Blitzo Sexually harrasses his co-workers and is very toxic, Alastor is a serial killer.) Depiction is not glorification, but Viv actively makes it seem like all of it is okay to do and has a show who has a very negative message that affects the viewers and fanbase into excusing disgusting shit.

-disrespecting religion by not accurately researching the demons she talks about

-Sexist writing in helluva and hazbin that favores males(Loona,Millie,Stella, Verosika)

-ableist language by Blitzo, refusal to acknowledge this and even joking about not being able to say a slur

-collaborates with Brandon Rogers,whose work is clearly sexist,racist,homophobic and ableist

-making fun of eating disorders (Moxxie)

-involving kesha in her show while she is trying to get justice for being abused and trying to recover, making the character she voices based on all the things she hated about herself

-included famous voice actors, pays thousands for them but actively underpaid and overworked her staff

-No trigger on an episode that contained Blitzo vomiting

-Barbie wire grooming a teenager is considered a joke (and the tweet doesn't count, we should be able to tell if the teen was actually older by his design or any line of dialogue, if those who don't have twitter won't know it means it's a problem)

-various incest jokes hinting at proshipping (Moxxie/Millie, and a rumor +dialogue cues hint at Andrealphus and Stella being in a relashionship)

-merch of almost all female characters being somewhat sexual

-depicting the Woman/Man as the only healthy relationship (Moxxie/Millie) while the queer couples are toxic (Chaz/Moxxie Blitzo/Stolas)

Holy shit that's a long read, I suggest you make that into a blog post or something. The only portion I can assume that you got correct is the third section. Most of the first two sections are spot on to me, but I am not sure if they're both completely correct because I'm not really aware of what Vivziepop did in the past, just what she has been doing since like last year. Sorry to disappoint, but it is pretty great from what I'm reading.

Modify it to what you think is best so that people will read from it and test read it yourself in case you got something wrong. I suggest you use Grammarly for grammar or spelling issues because even though English is my first language I still struggle with those

[helluvabossrewrite45]

I'm so proud of her. Cut him out of your life Octavia. It's for the best.

[kawaiitail-chan]

I saw this peak masterpiece in my fyp LMAO!

[uniquepeanutcreatorfire]

For people saying Viv is a changed person, please consider looking at this (found this on X):

[officeobject]

Those are some really pretty edits and creative ideas! Also, Stella and Octavia both being ace would be so interesting!

https://www.tumblr.com/impperfectcritiques/774445583632105472/helluva-boss-pride-edit

Wow changing the identity of some characters because you don’t like their established sexuality? Some LGBT supporter you are.

Y'know its kinda funny

I actually only changed two-three sexualities, but I kept them m-spec [other then barbie]. Other then that all I did was change outfits and add further romantic types and genders. Seems like you're a reactionary who saw different flags and genders and got their panties in a bunch over nothing!

Changes I actually made:

Changed Verosika to Omnisexual to have more m-spec representation outside of pan and two bi people.

Made big buff man bi, once again coz of the significant lack of m-spec diversity [viv seems to slap pan onto any character she doesnt really care about sexuality wise]

Made millie intersex as it was a common headcannon when she had the white spot in her hair. Gave her rainbow nails! She's still a straight ally!

GAVE BLITZO SOME BLOODY CLOTHES SO HE ISNT BUTT NAKED! Made his outfit show off his pan pride.

Gave Stolas a cute outfit that suited his interests and personality more. His pants have a Carnation on them, which is representative of MLM/NWLNW love <3 [he also likes plants].

Kept Loona and Ocatavias sexualities the same. Octavia is Nonbinary, and Loona is trans! ooooo scary!!!

Barbie is a lesbian, as per common headcannon. ALSO gives her more difference from her twin brother + theres only ONE other lesbian in the show, so diversity :).

These queens are still pan, just nobinary and trans now :3

Asmodeus is still pan! He's also genderfluid! Also gave him a better outfit and top scars, oooo scary! Fizz is still gay, but he prefers the Achillean label and flag, hes also intersex and aroace! Gave ugly Andy a pride outfit. He's still gay, no changes. Tried to remove useless pervert Chaz and replaced him with our evil queen Stella! Shes Ace AND Sapphic! Note how she looks at the happy couple of Fizz and Ozzie, she wants something like that...

There we go! Hope you enjoyed! and I hope snowflake anon is pissed.

[66kenobi66]

Honestly it sucks that Millie gets the least amount of focus, because in my opinion she's probably one of the most interesting characters, conceptually.

She's a female assassin who specializes in giant weapons and hand-to-hand combat. She's happily married to another assassin who has a more timid and calm personality. She's strong, confident, bold, and outspoken, but is also allowed to be caring and supportive (mainly to her husband).

She started off just doing her assassin job for money/to support her family but it soon led to a career she loves and even helped her meet her husband.

She's from a big family who loves her and mostly supports her job and choices. She has a pretty great relationship with said family but is also a part of a found family with her husband, their boss and his daughter.

She's a pretty stock southern architype but she's also allowed to be emotionally mature and occasionally pretty smart rather than just being a hick 100% of the time.

All of that intrigue, complexity, and story concepts that the writers do nothing with! 'Cause why focus on your actually cool characters when you could make 500 episodes about some whiny bird bitch?!

^^^ My irl reaction to seeing how badly the writers fumbled Millie's character

[officeobject]

I know I've said that Stolass is the meaner version of how I'd treat my boyfriend, but actually, he seems more like the ideal boyfriend I has made for my ideal self, and here's why:

Loves romance (also conflicts that with sex a lot but whatever)

Not many hobbies outside of being boyfriend

Soft/cute

Dramatic poor little boy who can't be away from his lover for too long

Will hump the nearest thing when horn horn (which is so often he'd actually need to go to the doctor because it disrupts his quality of life)

Turns random crap into a sex thing

Modern me who didn't turn out to be little miss Lianne, feels bad for him, laughs at him, and also wants to punch him to the moon

"I need humpy ;("

Genuinely pretty

Polite, I guess

Has like 5 personality traits

Very romantic

Acts dramatic, some might say if some high schooler who was a bad author, wrote a character (that boyfriend guy was a thing since childhood, just further specified/expanded upon as some horn horn guy later on, so it's fair enough)

Keeps making noises

Moans way more than a normal human being

Emotional and whiny and stuff

[autumnteawithfriends]

The Pinterest side of HH/HB slander is underrated

As a bonus, some GOATED comments

(NOTE! None of these were made by me and I cropped some images so stans don’t harass these people)

[carto0ncritter]

One thing I noticed in this shitshow of an episode is how fucking ungrateful Stolas was for everything Blitzø did for him since he came to his place.

Him being a spoiled rich white asshole:

I hate his facial expressions so much, you have no idea

I can guarantee you care about these 'nice things' more than you care about your daughter btw

Oh, we also have, let's see here...

*insert the entire montage of Blitzø (Stolas' victim) trying to cheer his abuser up since he's now in love with him thanks to good ol' Stockholm Syndrome*

Seeing that cigarette reminds me of when Stolas uh... *checks notes* called Blitz an 'itty bitty imp (racist)' despite him clearly hating it, grabbed his cheek and used his horn to put out his cigarette (not to mention Blitzø's severe trauma being related to fucking fire)

Okay so anyway, I think Stolas said "Oh, when have you ever asked" bc Blitzø stole from him and his family 25 years ago. correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it manipulative af to bring up smth that happened that long ago, also it's totally unrelated to the current situation. I swear it's like a grown ass man saying to another "Oh I still hate you because, uhm, remember that one time in 3rd grade when you stole my pencil..."

So... if Stolas still holds this against Blitzø, let me ask: why was he ever "in love" with him in the first place? Answer? He wasn't. Stolas only used this imp for his sexual fantasies and for him to get to experience his "fairytale romance"

P.S. Imps are a race his privileged ass has always been racist towards and he hasn't ever attempted to, uh... try to understand them better? Understand how they live? I mean if you truly cared about your "boyfriend," Stolas, you'd have put in SOME effort to change your mindset/behavior and WOULDN'T HAVE EVER SEXUALLY COERCED HIM

He also 🍇d you blitz

And no he didn't do much, he's powerful af. Using those powers isn't rocket science heck he turned an imp to stone in s1 he can protect himself but is apparently the "bottom" in the stolitz "relationship". Also no, him leaving Octavia clearly isn't a huge deal to Stolas otherwise he'd have fought to earn her forgiveness and not just sulk like a wimpy loser. YOU ARE NOT ONLY A GROWN MAN STOLAS, BUT A FATHER. At least you were supposed to be

So was not thinking about your daughter until you lost everything, apparently

AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT??? WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A TRANSACTION AGAIN

Alright I'm signing off until the next season drops, if that ever happens

This episode sucked, but kudos to our girl Via who was smart enough to see through her "father's" bs 👏

ALSO HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO THE CRITICAL COMMUNITY (and to non-toxic stans too)!