#helluva boss criticism

[nachobear87]

Funny how this joke is basically calling out at the people that drool over Loona, even though that was the only reason Vivziepop even made her.

She doesn't even have an actual character. Like when she started caring about Blitz in the last episode of season 1, but in Seeing Stars, she beats him up for no reason, and even kicks him in the nuts after he was showing genuine care for her in the end of the episode. (That's a 22 year old woman btw, not a angsty teen)

[paulie-lombardos-boy-toy]

I adore her OP. Does she have a name and background at all?

guys,, guys,… it’s the Hazbin Mrs. Hellluva boss

can’t wait for people to unironically draw her to really get the h8er that is me. Little do you know I can bait you into it while also being critical of the show 🥺😰

Anyways is she annoyingly red enough? Does she hit all the markers? :))

bonus: she’s a zombie somehow. I dunno you figure that out on your own.

[forestkatart]

I hate when I'm looking at pictures of adorable barn owls on pinterest and I open the comments and i see just a load of people going ''OmG sToLaS!!!!1!''

SHUT UP SHUT UP NOT EVERY OWL IS A FUCKING STOLAS OR HELLUVA BOSS REFERENCE PLEASE LET ME FANGIRL ABOUT MAGESTIC ANIMALS IN PEACE OH MY GODDDD

(you can like stolas ofc but stop with the refs on owl pictures and videos im begging u)

[rebecca-arts]

And atleast Odalia is pretty interesting to me and i hate her not because of her writing but because her treatment to Amity, unlike Stella who i always feel bad for her because of her poor writing.

Odalia is evil, but she manages to dominate her family, including her husband.

Stella, on the other hand, is just useless, she has no character of her own, and she only exists to prop up both Stolas and Andrealphus.

[doodler16]

THEY COULD'VE MAKE THAT GUY IN A NEW SHORT BEING HURRY FOR ANYTHING, THE CLASSIC "WIFE GIVING BIRTH AND I'M LATE TO BE HERE FOR HER" OR "I HAVE AN REALLY IMPORTENT DEAL!!" AND THAT DEAL IN A QUESTION IS DRUGS SELLING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT NOT THAT.

(just watched the new short, and it's just proves that Viv don't gave an flying fuck about an male SA victims and view them as just an object she can joke about and then sexualieze.)

That would actually mean having Moxxie being narratively right for a change and we can’t have that 🤣.

[joinmeintimegirlsouls]

You know that Stolas rant video Chai recently shared? Well, when the commenter mentioned that their boyfriend loved Stolas and refuses to be critical of him, I began to sense some red flags out of this boyfriend dude. Stolas is a bigot, a sex offender, and a self-important asshole.

Nothing wrong with liking problematic characters, but… …refusing to acknowledge their flaws and faults, while accepting them as a “good person…” I believe that is how some people get desensitized. Angel Dust’s OG voice actor did get sexually assaulted by Valentino fans.

There’s nothing wrong with enjoying problematic characters. However, when someone outright refuses to acknowledge their flaws—or worse, defends their worst actions—it raises legitimate concerns. Appreciating a character’s complexity is one thing, but blindly idolizing them, especially when they’re written to be morally questionable (or outright terrible), is another.

The situation with Angel Dust’s VA is especially chilling, and I wouldn’t wish that kind of position on anyone. When fans conflate fictional appeal with real-world morality, it often leads to toxic behavior. This isn’t about policing what people like—it’s about encouraging critical thinking and accountability. If someone can’t separate “this character is interesting” from “this character is a good person,” that’s a major red flag worth noting.

Solid take, anon. Thanks for sharing.

[showtoonzfan]

I am really getting tired of fans responding with “everyone responds to trauma differently” to dismiss criticism Viv gets for how she portrays abuse and SA in her shows. Yes, everyone does respond to trauma differently, that doesn’t mean there’s not a right and wrong way to portray it in media. As a writer you can always improve your stuff and make it better than what it is now, there’s nothing stopping Viv from looking to improve. Feedback from others (especially from people who have been abused and/or SA’d) is important.

If Vivziepop was a normal person who didn’t see critique as a personal attack on her, she could actually use what people over the internet are telling her as a larger scope so she gets a better perspective of how other people feel, that way she can emotionally reach to multiple audiences in her work, instead of picking sides, dismissing and demonizing anyone who disagrees with her and assuming what she’s crafted is perfect with zero flaws.

Her major problem with how she portrays abuse as a whole is that she can’t make up her mind on what’s bad and what isn’t. In Helluva Boss, Blitz verbally abusing his employees is funny, but Stella verbally abusing Stolas is bad. Sexual harassment from Blitz, Stolas and Angel Dust are funny, but from Val it’s bad. Loona abusing Blitz is funny, but Stella abusing Stolas, Valentino abusing Angel, and Crimson abusing Moxxie is bad.

Then you watch livestreams of her talking about Stolitz and Huskerdust, and it really feels like she can’t tell the difference between genuine love and blatant sexual harassment, cause she talks as if the couples are lovey dovey when in reality they’re not. Then she has the issue of not reading the room, at times she can’t let a serious scene happen without cracking a joke or just letting the scene breathe. Moxxie’s abuse isn’t taken with the full respect it deserves, after he’s hit we cut to a dildo joke, then go from that to a sexual harassment song we’re supposed to find funny. Then the writers can’t even let him cry without a joke about Blitz and Chaz being loud during sex. This is the same woman who prides herself in how she wrote Angel Dust, an SA victim.

She comes off as an excruciatingly insensitive writer who can’t make up her mind wether she finds SA hot, or abuse funny or not. People genuinely look up to her, but she’d rather argue with people on Instagram/twitter who find her work dense/uncomfortable. She’s not even trying to make an effort in her writing cause she’s convinced it’s perfect, and it’s just wrong, especially to silence those who want to speak up about how she dealt with a serious topic, topics that deserve care and respect, not just “haha sex”.

[paulie-lombardos-boy-toy]

Stans: “Get a job. Must be sad laying around the house hating on bottom tier slop

Me who works for an MLB baseball Team as well as a sports journalist/marketer and budding on field reporter for star athletes: Nice story, anyway, Vivziepop wouldn’t know good storytelling if it slapped her in the face so here’s a manifesto listing her crimes against animation

"I don't understand why you guys are so obsessed with vivziepop! Get a job!"

We aren't doing this because we're miserable or have nothing better to do. It's just really fun to clown on a bad person who is undeserving of their success/platform, who also happens to be super shitty at everything they do lol

[66kenobi66]

https://www.tumblr.com/relaxingifs/791157719183818752/helluve-boss-short-6-mission-bad-drivezo

was it really necessary to gif this scene?? specially from a stimming account of all things. also why does it look so weird, whatever filter this person looked is not very good. also i thought hellaverse fans hated redesigns if you like the show so much then why change it huh??

I could've gone my whole life without seeing any of this but...it's fine 🙃

No way they made an aesthetic GIF compilation about some bastard wanting to have sex with his barely legal son...why...what...who...whyyy...?

I hate this world, man...

[theloganator101]

So they finally made merch for the orphanage short and the only fucking thing Viv came up with was two shirts with rip Mr wiggles and loona going ta-da after revealing her true identity….

Yeahhh I wonder how they are going to make merch for the recent short since the only memorable joke was the dad wanting to give his son his first blowjob this will not end well

They actually did. Here's their collection of the latest short.

[hill-art02]

I don't mind if Viv wants HH and HB to be more "edgy"

But if you're going to joke about taboo topics, at least put more thought and effort than just

"lol he was going to blow his son, isn't that so funny XD"

[theoddest1]

Lmaoooo

Edit:

Samantha is a Story Artist, Animator, and Animation BFA who works for Viv on both HH and HB.

2nd Edit: Some of y'all need to chill in the comments with certain things you say. It ain't finna make any point come across decently with how you spread some info. I get being mad at some of the reactions, don't get me wrong, but bring it back down slow plz.

[helluvabossrewrite45]

I'm so proud of her. Cut him out of your life Octavia. It's for the best.

[sophieabigail2021]

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