#shipping discourse

[pavnior]

Anti’s discovering that pro-shipping is the normal everywhere else besides america will never fail to make me laugh. Because genuinely what did they expect?

Western fans need to start accepting reality, every pairing is allowed in other places. English fandom spaces are the worse and most draining places to be in when it comes to shipping however everywhere else everyone is pretty much following “don’t like, don’t read”, “scroll and ignore”, and “block and move on”.

At the end of the it’s just fiction and it doesn’t harm anyone. Fans can enjoy the parings they like without any bullshit anti shipping discourse. At the end of the day you choose the media you consume, you choose what decided to interact in and what you don’t.

[sad-endings-suck]

some of you are once again getting too comfortable disproportionally headcanon-ing disabled and neurodivergent characters as ace and demi-sexual without examining why you always seem to do so.

[totallyjustabunchofhocuspocus]

Are you fucking blind? 911's instagram LITERALLY posted a Buddie picture on New Year's. They're not "baiting" anything...it's confirmed. Game over. They are FINALLY going canon, BT is BONES and you're just bitter.

Did they post a Buddie picture, or did they post a picture of two of their most popular characters in a way that pokes fun at the general debauchery NYE parties are known for? Were we meant to infer that Buddie were immediately mauling each other at midnight, desperate to finally express their pent up lust and soul-deep love for each other that they've been denying for years or were we meant to look at it and be reminded of going out with the besties and getting white girl wasted?

Is he gay or just European?

It can believably be both and That. Is. My. Point.

Absolutely! This could be a wink-wink-nudge-nudge to all the Buddie shippers to stay tuned cause it's coming. That makes sense. I am NOT DENYING THAT.

I have dozens of pictures of me and other people that I Very Much Did Not Want To Fuck that have exactly that same vibe.

What I was saying was that THEY ARE VERY LIKELY DOING THAT ON PURPOSE.

Could I be wrong? Sure! I'm not privy to anything happening with that show. I don't work in entertainment. All I've got is a fandom experience that stretches back to 1993 and that fandom experience leads me to look at the way the show runners talk about Buddie, the way the actors (particularly Ryan lately) talk about Buddie, the way the social media team treats Buddie content and go, "Mmhmm, that looks familiar."

I would not care at ALL to be wrong. Like. I don't know how many ways to say that. I enjoy Buddie! I read it! I write it! Literally all I have ever said is: I like Buddie, but I don't think it's going canon anymore, if it ever was, and here are my reasons, feel free to agree or disagree.

I've never been rude about it. I've never told anyone they should move on. I've sure as shit never gone into anyone's inbox and taunted them about it. I've been very blunt about how I feel about the portion of the fandom that turned on BuckTommy shippers and Lou Ferrigno Jr with such nastiness, but I've got no beef with the shippers that didn't turn into every bad stereotype of fandom.

Like there's definitely some bitterness at play, but it's not on my end, friend. Have the day you deserve.

[mercoolry]

I’m gonna say something controversial, and the TSAMS/LAES fandom might hate me for this, but…

Some of yall are lowkey weird for shipping Lunar x Kerian.

Wasn’t the whole episode literally Lunar getting manipulated?? Yall are literally shipping Lunar with some evil bird guy who (I believe is) thousands of years old who manipulated him 💀🙏🏻

Idc, fight me for this, BUT LURIAN (we’ll just call that the ship name for now) LITERALLY ISNT ANY BETTER THAN LUNAR X ECLIPSE.

We know Lunar is naive, he always has been, he’s proven many times he’s the perfect target for manipulation. And I know he doesn’t want to be in a relationship rn after him and Gemini broke up, and I’m not saying him and Kerian actually have a chance together (because they don’t, Kerian probably has the same sort of feelings around love as the other astrals do; which is nonexistent, basically the astrals are aroace), but as we see at the end of the episode, the flirting lowkey worked, so it IS possible that it could turn into something much bigger.

Im just saying, I’ve seen way too many ppl GENUINELY ship these two, which in my opinion is honestly weird asf, fight me 😭🙏🏻

[frostfires-blog]

I just randomly came across your blog and seeing ichiruki and bakudeku shipper, I knew its a safe place lol. Anyway just wanted to say that pretty much. I can’t stand Ichigo and Orihime together it was just so eh and made me honestly stop investing in the manga. I couldn’t do it anymore. Rukia was right there. Right. There.

WOW! A BAKUDEKU AND ICHIRUKI SHIPPER!!!! I'm sorry... It's just that my mind is truly blown. I've never encountered anyone else who also ships both pairings before. Since both ships are in my top 3, I'm so happy! I honestly wish we had more safe spaces... Sometimes the fandom makes it so difficult for IchiRuki and/or BakuDeku shippers. Somehow I still find myself watching the new releases for the Bleach anime and continue to be somewhat active in the fandom—I honestly don't know where I get the strength to persist. I've come close to my breaking point many times, so I totally empathise with you.

Honestly, the series went from being in my top 3 to not even making my top 20. As frustrated as I am with the series' ending, I truly adore IchiRuki which is why I haven't wholly forsaken it. I like the series' pre-TYBW setting, power system, soundtrack, and world-building. I've never officially read the manga, so watching the TYBW arc has been a peculiar experience... Honestly, I've been finding it difficult to get invested in any of the new characters and plotlines it has introduced. Since I've made it this far, I'm going to finish off the anime. I won't be watching/reading any sequels and spinoffs though because I can't stand seeing Orihime and Ichigo together either...

[screampotato]

Suddenly struck with a need to explain to you how boat pronouns work (I work in the marine industry).

When you're talking about the design of the boat, you say "it".

When the boat is still being built, your say "it".

When the boat is nearing completion, you can say "it" or "she".

When the boat is floating in the water you probably say "she", unless there is still a lot of work to be done (e.g. no engine yet) then you say "it".

When the boat is officially launched and operating, you say "she". If you continue to say "it" at this point you are not incorrect but suspiciously untraditional. You are not playing the game.

If you are referring to a boat you don't really know anything about you may say "it" ("there's a big boat, it's coming this way"). But if you know its name, it's probably "she" ("there's the Waverley, she's on her way to Greenock").

If you are talking about boats in general, you say "it" ("when a boat is hit by a wave it heels over")

If you speak about a boat in complimentary terms, it's "she" ("she's a grand boat"). If you are being disparaging it may be it, but not necessarily ("it's as ugly as sin", "she's a grotty old tub").

If she has a boy's name, she's still she. "Boy James", "King Edward", "Sir David Attenborough"? The pronoun is she.

If it's a dumb barge (no engine), you say it. But if it's a rowing boat (no engine), you say she.

I hope this has cleared things up so that you may not be in danger of misgendering floating objects.

[saintmachina]

Shipping fictional characters isn’t representative of your moral values. It’s representative of your particular psychic damage and the themes and motifs that haunt you. Hope this helps.

[nymph1e]

On Discomfort and Morality

My father finds gay men uncomfortable.

He's told me before that it's like a knee-jerk for him. Something he doesn't consciously control. He sees two men behaving romantically, and his body reacts with mild discomfort.

In the 1960s, when he was in high school, most of the boys in his form thought he was gay on the simple fact that he wasn't homophobic. He wouldn't participate in insulting queer people, he didn't care if someone was gay, he wouldn't have a problem hanging out with gay people. So people thought he was gay. That's how prevalent homophobia was in his formative years.

When I was 10, my dad told me very seriously that Holmes and Watson were gay. That it was obvious from the literature and the time period that they were meant to be a gay couple. When I was 14 and I came out to my parents as bi, when my mum was upset my dad ripped into her for it. Told her that she was being stupid, that it was my life to live how I wanted to and that she needed to get over herself.

My dad formed my views on censorship: that being that it was completely ridiculous and thoroughly evil. He didn't believe in censorship of any kind. If I asked him a question about sex, he answered it honestly. When I was 12 and I asked him about homosexuality, still young and uncertain, he told me that there was nothing wrong with it. That it was just how some people were. That there was likely an evolutionary reason for it. And that for some people it was uncomfortable on an instinctual level.

He taught me that just because you're uncomfortable with something, doesn't make it wrong. He also taught me that most people don't understand this.

I see a lot of this on the internet as of the last few years. The anti shipping movement, the terf movement, the anti ace movement. It all stems from discomfort that people have crossed wires into believing means wrong. Really every -ism and -phobia out there stems from this same fundamental aspect of humanity.

The next time you see something and you automatically think it's disgusting, or wrong, or immoral, I invite you to ask yourself: is this actually wrong or does this just make me uncomfortable?

[questions-about-blorbos]

reblog if you ship a ship that's unhealthy, toxic and fucked up

[garnet-xx-rose]

Yes, I’ve done the work analyzing this relationship’s problematic traits and I’ve come to the educated conclusion that I still want them to fuck

[bebx]

“this ship is not canon” babe, they’re fictional characters. they’re not real. they’re literally dolls we play with. we don’t care about whether or not these fictional characters’ love story is canon in this piece of media that is also entirely based on fiction. I mean, sure, canon would be lovely, but it’s a bonus. it’s not necessary. what we care about is the fun of talking about these 2 idiots being in love.

we don’t give a fuck if they didn’t kiss in “canon”. they had raw sex in thousands of fics about them though. and I’d say that’s more than enough to make people who ship them happily ship them even harder. happy shipping!

[clearancecreedwatersurvival]

Okay I take it back the actual funniest thing about how many people performatively hate on scum villain because they think it’s bad and trashy and irredeemable and Problematic is that they are unwittingly re-enacting an almost perfect impression of the main character, a young terminally online guy who hate read a trashy porn novel and got in so many internet fights about how bad and irredeemable and garbage it was that he died choking on his rage and was transported to suffer the role of expendable backstory villain in the world of this trashy porn novel he hated so much.

And that’s fucking hilarious.

[mywitchcultblr]

Stop putting DNI on your tags and stop bringing shipping discourse into AO3

AO3 hid the story and asked OP to remove the tag (the fanfic is not even removed) due to the inflammatory tag. That's deserved. AO3 is not a social media for people to fight over ship and chronically online discourse. It's a library. If people keep bringing DNI and discourse into AO3 it'll make the place toxic for writers and reader.

What are you trying to accomplish with putting DNI? Do you think people actually care about DNI? No, it's just making you looking like an asshole doing this

Also AO3 was founded by a Wincest and Thorki shipper. Astolat made AO3 because FF net and other sites keep purging nsfw fanfic. AO3 is literally made for problematique shipper that op don't like.

Then OP doing this? For what? People want to enjoy reading their fanfic not seeing DNI and online discourse on AO3. I hate using the word virtue signaling as it's often used to demean progress but this is what a real virtue signaling looks like 🤦🤦‍♀️

(I bet op wrote more inflammatory tags on their fic other than 'proshitter DNI get a life' because it take a lot to get your story hidden or removed)

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

tag y’all’s problematic ships 🫶🏻

[cowboylikeyouu]

my favorite gender is men finding out about the concept of shipping non-canon ships