#fandom discussion

[miryalle]

No. Ships should NEVER make sense. Love doesn't make sense! Ship anyone! Deadpool x Maud! Sailor Moon x Bugs Bunny! Go nuts!

“ships should at least make sense.” no. ships can make sense, sure. but they’re just fictional characters we play with for fun. they’re fantasies, not a fucking thesis paper. so no, they don’t always have to make sense. they just have to make you happy (or horny).

let people enjoy (fictional) things however they want to enjoy.

[arottenlust]

‘I can write xyz character however I want bc they’re fictional!’

yeah ofc! people are still allowed to complain. to critique perceived mischaracterizations. should they be rude? No. but if you yourself are admitting that you are changing a character (bc it’s ur right and they’re not real yadda yadda yadda) then why are you mad that people are pointing it out ? If it is not rude, if it isn’t a direct attack, if it’s a simple observation, then what is the issue? idk

Another thought, one that idrk how to communicate so bear with me, is I feel that a lot of people are extremely resistant to any form of conflict or critique, basically anything that isn’t support or silence. and it’s a little off putting to me, like how is anyone meant to improve without input from others? furthermore, a critique of your work is not an attack on you, but more an observation. so why is it so wrong to share? are creative spaces not a place for discussion?

but I also do think u have a right to reject advice wether its constructive or not. if u do not want it then it shouldn’t be forced on u. a hobby can be a hobby without the need to get better or improve, like if it’s smth u do for the joy of it then thats that.

both of these sentiments ring true to me.

so idk how to even explain what I feel. idek what I feel tbh

bleh

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

[frontmansdefender]

shaming and making fun of people for still engaging in fandom activities once they reach a certain age is so embarrassing because why are you giving yourself an expiration date of time you have fun? why are you not-so-indirectly saying you will stop having fun once you reach a certain age? or do you really believe you have to stop engaging in fandom activities and having fun once you turn (x)? do you not think you will, what, live that long and turn that age too? do you think fun will suddenly stop for you and life will all of a sudden lose its meaning once you reach a certain age? how sad to be giving yourself an hourglass and just waiting for your time of having fun to run out.

adults can and should engage in fandom activities if it's what makes them happy.

adults can and should continue doing whatever they like doing as teenagers if it's what makes them happy.

age is just... part of life. it's a part of me and it's a part of you. shaming people for something you will have to go through (unless you don't think you will live that long) is such a loser behavior. indirectly saying you will stop having fun once you reach a certain age isn't the flex you think it is. it doesn't make you look "cool and edgy", it makes you look miserable.

[bebx]

[curiositysavesthecat]

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[bunnis-monsters]

People who hate on reader inserts will not survive the winter.

Fanfiction writers keep your fandoms alive, and that includes reader inserts writers.

[bunnyshideawayy]

i remember Jelsa, Hiccjack, and most importantly- hetalia. some of you clearly just can’t or won’t participate in fandom culture therefore you shouldn’t BE in fandom spaces. it’s completely possible to enjoy something from afar, you don’t have to force yourself into the hellscape that is fandom if you’re just going to hate everything said fandom creates. shipping is literally protocol in every fandom, it’s like saying “hey guys let’s not make fanart unless it’s canon and commissioned by the owner themselves!” or “hey guys let’s not theorize/predict/headcanon because it’s not really apart of the canon story!” this topped with the death of cringe it’s a wonder how some fandoms have even managed to survive or how new ones even get off the ground. 🤦🏻‍♀️

this mentality is SO WEIRD some of you clearly were not around for superwholock and it shows.

this obsession with needing to only ship something canon or to prove your ship is better because you think it will be canon... SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP! it shouldn't matter if people are shipping something that is or is not canon. let us play in our respective spaces and enjoy the content we want. it hurts literally nobody if fanart or fics are made for a couple that isn't canon. if it's upsetting to see then blacklist the tag and grow up.

[communistkenobi]

in the discourse landscape of gay shipping I think a crucial element is the underdog effect. official approval of your ship from showrunners (ie ship going canon) compromises your marginal status as a fandom shipper on tumblr, and in the long run produces a sore winner subjectivity where you must constantly insist that your ship is still good and subversive. destiel is a good edge case as it went canon in the most homophobic way possible, thus maintaining something of an underdog status despite it being explicitly addressed in the text of supernatural, while still ultimately losing its fandom dominance as evidenced by it constantly losing in shipping polls. ofmd shippers in this respect occupy a conflict of class interests in which their gay canonicity confers a level of comfort and stability that gay shippers who have to work in the posting mines doing web weaves will never experience. therefore, we can consider ofmd shippers to be the petit bourgeoisie of the fandom ecosystem, caught between the big bourgeoisie (tv writers) and the proletariat (stuckys), predictably choosing to engage in downwards class conflict to maintain their narrowly privileged status

[jaguarys]

I find it fascinating (derogatory) how the general fandom conversation has shifted from "this woman is getting in the way of our gay ship and she's USELESS and ANNOYING and WE DON'T LIKE HER!" to this weird "no actually she's just not involved in her own relationships because she's too cool and special and awesome and a girlboss". But the problem is that there's not actually a veritable difference there. People still aren't engaging with her as a fully-fledged character. Like sure man calling her a girlboss is fine it's whatever but let that lead somewhere else. Engage with her. Can you actually name any of her character traits or are you just blindly praising her so that you can focus on shipping the guys in the background without feeling bad about it

[001x456]

it’s unfortunate that (some) people in fandom spaces are starting to get too comfortable complaining and being rude to writers and artists who create contents they personally don’t like (“why are you making this character a top when he’s obviously a bottom? omg do you even understand his character?” “I’m so sick of seeing fan art and fanfic where this character is portrayed as a sadist when he’s actually misunderstood in my opinions, therefore anyone who disagrees with me is wrong and should be shamed” just to name a few I’ve seen) instead of curating their own fandom experiences by engaging only with contents they do like.

you want more fics where (x) is written in this specific way? either write one yourself or politely expressing your opinion about how you hope there will be more fics where (x) is written in this specific way instead of making fandom a toxic place by being rude to writers and artists who dare make contents that are not to your Personal Liking.

if the universe does not revolve around you, strangers and fandom spaces don’t have to cater exclusively to your personal preferences either.

to all my beloved writers and artists, write whatever you want, draw whatever you want. portray that character in whichever way you want to portray. I hope you have fun doing what you love. don’t let anybody tell you what you can or can’t do with the blorbo. go wild. I will always support you

[questions-about-blorbos]

people who ship a ship that's unhealthy, toxic and fucked up and do not shy away from the fact their ship is unhealthy, toxic and fucked up by making them act all "lovey dovey" toward each other, or watering down the severity of the things that canonically make their ship a fucked up ship, in fanfics — and so they embrace the fact that their ship is fucked up, but that's the thing that makes their ship so hot, sexy, complex and fascinating — I am declaring my undying love and loyalty to you

[inkwyvern]

I know we've seen the moment Blitzø decided to adopt Loona, but I want to see the moment Loona found out she was getting adopted. The moment she met Blitzø.

The first few agonising months where Blitzø didn't know how to be a dad, and Loona didn't know how to have a dad.

The awkward days of her avoiding him in the apartment, trying to figure out what exactly his goal was. Because why would he possibly want to adopt her?

And Blitzø avoiding her too, wanting to be the dad he never had growing up but having no idea how to start.

I want to see the moment Loona realises that Blitzø has been sleeping on the couch ever since she met him. She'd never noticed, because he's usually passed out on the couch before he can get to a bed most nights, but Blitzø doesn't have a bedroom. And her room's walls suddenly seem so freshly painted.

And then, I want to see the moment Loona fucks up. And when she completely expects him to send her back to the pound, Blitzø comforts her. In his awkward, doesn't-know-how-to-talk-about-emotions way, but still.

And after that, things get better. They find their own, strange rhythm. And slowly, together, they begin to heal.

[arottenlust]

Does that mean NO writers should make Toji use AAVE? Or is it only certain ones?

(this is long but read the whole thing if u gaf)

say what u mean bc races aren’t bad words

do I think that only black writers should write Toji w aave and that white/non black writers should never write Toji w aave ever again? no.

Do I think that my points are moot if a black or otherwise poc person is the one doing the writing? also no*, and my thoughts on that are explained at the end of this rant but first:

let me reiterate my point.

Toji being the only character who is written with such an excessive use of aave can be an issue bc, since that simply isn’t how he speaks, the motivations of such a choice come into question.

what exactly about his personality as a 30smth Japanese hitman inspired the use of aave?

when i look at his character and notice he is the only one who fits into harmful stereotypes (‘broke’, ‘homeless’, absent father, etc) that surround the black (and some other poc) community, i begin to wonder if that’s why he’s the only one written w aave. So I shared how I felt in hopes that writers would think about why they make the choices they do.

My aim was for writers (who realize they write him that way because of subconscious bias) to change and work on their prejudices if that’s something they care to do.

If you do not fit that description, if ur motivations are not fueled by these biases, if you do not care to change, if you write Toji that way simply because you’re attached to that fanon version of him, if you write him that way bc that is how you speak and you want to project that onto him, etc etc etc then this is not for you

do I think that fanon version is fueled, if only slightly, by racist biases? yea. but not completely. Either way do what you want. I am not asking every writer to post and clarify their intentions, I am asking them, if they give a fuck, to ask themselves about their own motivations

one other thing *

being poc does not make u immune to perpetuating your own harmful stereotypes or being prejudiced against your own people. if a poc writer writes any character a certain way bc they themselves carry these subconscious biases, that is something they should work on. no it’s not their fault. Growing up in a society that can imprint these thoughts into your brain is out of your control. the only thing you can do is learn and grow from it, if u care to do so.

that is all

thanks for the ask babes!

Not that it should change anything abt the rant as a whole, but I’d like to add that I am hispanic! Latine if u will. so the last part of this rant comes from a place of true understanding :P

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]