#fandom discussion

[quietlyrebelling]

Get your capitalism AWAY from my fandom

ok, because i just saw a terrible take, i feel compelled to say that there is no "fic market" to "oversaturate" in fandom. good gravy.

[creelarke]

maturity is knowing when to block, mute and move on when seeing fictional things that disgust you instead of harassing someone on behalf of fictional characters that are not real

[toffeebrews]

I think perhaps because I'm an artist myself one thing that will never fail to annoy me no matter how old or new is people pestering or demanding certain fandom works. I'm not talking about politely asking either. I get being excited but seeing people be rude or overly obnoxious when it comes to projects has made so many artists demotivated and want to cease working on stuff completely (in my own personal experiences of course). Or expecting artists who have clearly moved on or want to into making art you want from them.

Luckily I haven't experienced this at all everyone around me is incredibly patient and kind.

[wunidz]

MouthWashing fandom rant bc i can

the mouthwashing fandom (twitter side) needs to know how to separate fiction from reality dear lord.

you can't have this hatred towards a character that you'll attack anyone who just mentions him. (Jimmy)

you guys need to go outside, being this chronically online it's not healthy for you.

yeah he's a rapist, a /fictional/ rapist. why do yall treat like he's real?? (again i'm not excusing what he did, i am saying, that's he's fictional and you treat him like a real person, and attacks anyone who likes him or doesn't even know him, which is really horrible behavior, i've seen contless times on twitter people attacking random users for making fanart or even just saying he's atractive, calling them rape apologist and etc) btw and HOW you can be a fan of the game while his character triggres you, like HUH??? He's the fucking protagonist, how you shiver up in fear, screams just for seeing him, but is fan of the game where he's the fucking protagonist and has important role in the story. You can hate him, and i hope you do, cuz yes it's his fault for the shitstorm that happens, but again, It's a fictional character, with fictional story in a fictonal world, atleast hate him in a normal amount geez. don't get me wrong i hate him, as a /person/, but not as a /character/, because? he's well written!! he's supposed to be this vile human being, you are supposed to see him as the villan. And yall act like feral animals, towards anyone who likes the character. like??? haven't we learn nothing about things we like doesn't define us?

so, trdl: twitter sucks, and if you can't diferentiate fiction from reality you shouldn't be on the internet attacking others for your own pettiness.

liking fictional villans doesn't make you forgive everything they did, it's just you like them as a character not as a person.

and jimmy sucks balls

bye bye 💕

[questions-about-blorbos]

Antis aren’t known for “protecting fictional children”.

They’re actually known for “harassing real people over fictional things” , “putting the lives and well beings of fictional children over real people” and “not being able to separate fiction from reality”.

It’s the equivalent of people protesting in front of a movie theatre in the 80s because “horror movies are satanic and dangerous”.

(And for the record, I am disgusted by those ships, but you’ll never see me harass real people who like those ships that I personally hate, because their ships aren’t my ships and I choose to mute/block them and mind my own business instead of harassing and accusing them of being predators based on their taste in fiction alone.)

Like… sorry if this upsets you, but just because you can’t separate fiction from reality doesn’t mean I can’t separate fiction from reality.

[stellocchia]

I will never understand the people who interact with fanon content and yet use "It isn't canon" as a criticism for any headcanon/AU/design choice they dislike.

Like, yeah, no shit. Unless what you're doing is literally transcribing what happened in the canon material word for word or copying it in other ways, it's not gonna be canon. No matter how closely you stick to the original material, it still isn't shown in the actual text, so it's fanon content.

That's kinda what fandoms are all about.

[rumbleonthemill]

here's my experience with fandoms recently. (I'm gen y)

they're not about fangirling together anymore (changed around 2020). they're about one person trying to police the other (they should be equal). harassers trying to tell, what one is and isn't allowed to love.

toxicity.

communities are full of narcissistic abusers and I won't stop saying it until people's eyes OPEN.

people literally dig in strangers' past and pages to find ONE mistake so they can "cancel" aka "destroy" the person, like authoritarian regimes did. it feels like someone in fandoms is at the court. even the harassers are in nonstop fear..who knows what skeletons fall out of their closet tomorrow, hm?

I'll say it; even them purposely pushing you out of their circles, or dehumanizing you bc of your OPINION is confirming the described toxic behavior.

mob mentality. strangers just believe things about a stranger..told by another stranger. it's mostly happening due to envy, jealousy, or..someone shipping something else.

fandoms are not safe spaces anymore, not for the ""weird"", who used to escape there.

people do zero research on fandom and source material history. they do blind callouts without any evidence, or with faked evidence even.

a lot of (not all, though) newcomers pretend to know everything better than veterans.

fandom's death is the following: fandom lives -> harassers/antis arrive and start harassing people they disagree with-> good and chill people end up leaving due to harassment -> harassers get to the next fandom to seek for new targets -> kids with 0 knowledge and fetish people remain in fandom -> fandom just dies.

"block button..there's a block button?!"

feel free to expand this list with your experiences. reblog and share!

[loodgack]

I don't even know how's the phenomenon called, when a franchise does a sharp turn in content, and basically becomes something it never was? like it does the absolute opposite?!

how tf do you call it?

it's nowhere near it's original self. it has nothing to do with it's base material. if it's a sequel, it has nothing to do with the first part. and when a fan says "I like xy media" you cannot say "me too" because you like the original media, the old one, and the other likes the new, which could be considered a different franchise even.

[whatsjulietslastname]

I just want to comment on the whole mlm pricefield thing because I think your so right but also there such a bigger discussion on media here. Its such an intresting phenomenon that Female affection is so normalized to te point that its much safer and easier to write wlw relationships, but because of its normalization is also so easy to brush stuff off as them being "gal pals." Meanwhile a lot of mlm romance has to be really suble because male affection is seen as wrong, weird, and queer. All to say for as frustrating as it is to see fandom prop up mlm relationships its because they are women that we were able to get queer moments and a cannon relationship.

I 100% agree with you. I think the huge difference between the way media treats both wlw and mlm relationships is full of layers of issues in the way people perceive lesbian and gay relationships. I don’t actually think one side has it better than the other. Your ask actually made me think about how affection in female relationships is so socially accepted meanwhile any hint of affection in male relationship immediately make people see them as ‘fruity’ or ‘gay’, and also about the way wlw relationships are more easily accepted in fiction because people like to fantasize about women kissing each other. Anyway, just to say, there are A LOT of issues, and my post was focused on how said issues had affected my favorite media (and ship), but obviously there are more. Overall, there are a lot of issues with the way people perceive queer people.

[dream-about-dancing]

I have a "strong" discussion with an art reposter. They posted lots of fanart of a japanese artist with the watermark "please don't repost." They even said in their post that nobody should told the artist about her post and laughed about it.

As I told them in the comments that this is against fandom etiquette and that they should delete the post they said it is their right because the artist forbids translations but more people should see this art. After that they blocked me.

I told the japanese artist on twitter about the reposter and because their struggle with the language they asked that someone report this for them.

Now the reposter is angry on X and even claims that they should have deleted the watermark. (Also they say the artist should stop drawing ship art because gross but this is another topic.)

Edit: The japanese artist said they will never ever draw the shit that the reposter wants. So it seems blackmail doesn't work. Who knew. 🤡

I only write this because I'm sitting here like - what happened? Did these young people forget all fandom etiquette? When did it start that fandom became so anti-art?

To repost art is like the biggest red flag for most people. Did it really become so normal? Why and when did it start that people in the fandom stopped giving artists the respect that they deserve.

I'm in various fandoms for 20+ years but it feels like the younger (?) generation don't realize we should be thankful for every writer, fanartist, gif maker or meta writer. So why do they make such a shit?

Is it really a thing between the generations? Between the social medias you use?

Is the fandom etiquette outdated?

Do we need to change how we interact with artists, writers and Co?

What do you think?

[qishylia-adelia]

There's hundreds of posts of people drooling over the character (x reader smut) but the character themselves lack any other fancontent beyond that

[brettdoesdiscourse]

So, I've done a lot of thinking on the point of "I don't mind shippers but I hate when they say 'theres no platonic explanation for this'" and similar things. And I've finally found how I want to address it.

In case you've never realized this for whatever reason which is completely fine (/gen), shippers (in the vast majority of cases) do not actually mean "there is literally no platonic reason you would do X."

It's not meant to be taken seriously or literally. It's an exaggeration to convey the point of, "I ship them and I view this moment as romantic." It's just a common expression for that feeling.

I understand the frustration if you feel like people are genuinely saying there's no platonic reason for it. In society, we see so many people saying genuinely "friends can't do this. You're not platonic if you do this. This is inherently romantic." But that's not the way it's being used in most fandom spaces.

[wunidz]

"wah wah you can't ship the characters bc the source material is too dark!"

this is an actual argument a moron did. bro it's a video game, these are fictional characters, we are allowed to ship them for fun, we do not need to follow the exact canon just to please you, i ship bc it's fun, it's interesting to see new character interactions, the source material is dark? yes, and that what makes it fun! we want these characters to have a happy ending.

this is why the mouthwashing fandom is so fucking toxic, there's too much puritans making everyone feel horrible just because they ship one character with another. You're not moraly better just because you see others way to have fun gross, we're doing nothing wrong.

[cowboylikeyouu]

hey fun fact!!!! fiction affects reality. hope this helps!!!!! <3

pls get off my blog <3

if you care more about people writing stories about fictional characters in illegal relationships than people who are actually trapped in these kinds of relationships, i rlly don’t know what to say. ever thought about the fact that people ship this stuff as a coping mechanism??

i hate myself for going down on your level but HEY fun fact: you can block/filter stuff and then it won’t affect your fucking realty. hope THIS helps!!!!! <3

jfc

[rtc-confessions]

I feel like this fandom can sometimes be a bit pessimistic? or maybe overly self deprecating?

I specifically mean when people talk about all the discours and drama and “oh my god, the new fandom sucks!” but like it’s really not a big problem here. I could be wrong, maybe I’ve just got my head in the sand, but, compared to just about every other fandom, this one’s on the chiller side

Like there are problems, the freaky debate was dumb as fuck, but kind of the normal amount of fandom problems

then again I don’t use TikTok so

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