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HOT TAKE: Amity is overhyped
Let’s face it—Amity Blight, for all the hype, is one of the most overpraised characters in The Owl House. Peel back the layers of her design, her hair dye arc, and her enemies-to-lovers romance, and you’re left with a character whose entire existence starts orbiting Luz the moment they become close. Once the romantic subplot kicks in, Amity stops developing on her own terms and becomes a glowing reflection of what Luz (and, by extension, the viewer) wants to see.
Her “redemption” arc is fast-tracked to the point of feeling unearned. One of the biggest flaws in Amity’s arc was how quickly she softened toward Luz. Early interactions painted her as deeply embedded in the rigid hierarchy of Hexside, enforcing its status quo with calculated cruelty. Her abrupt shift—starting with the library episode—felt more like an immediate personality flip rather than a gradual evolution. She goes from a top-tier academic ice queen with complex family dynamics to Luz’s supportive, blushing girlfriend in a few episodes—and stays there. Post-relationship Amity doesn’t evolve much. Her goals, flaws, and ambitions are barely touched after she gets with Luz. It’s like her role as an individual was sacrificed so she could function as the perfect girlfriend.
Amity could’ve been more—a rival, a foil, a character navigating trauma and perfectionism independently. But the moment she fell for Luz, she was locked into the role of romantic sidekick. And in a show bursting with dynamic characters like Eda, King, Hunter, and even Raine, that’s a waste.
I don't understand why so many people like her so much, there's not much substance to her character and should have been expanded on more. Like why does she even become an inventor at the end, there was no hinting at it in the entire show, I would have expected her to become like a teacher or something cause we see she's good at interacting with children.
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I think that the show should have established that Camila tried to help Luz over the years before deciding on the camp.
An issue with Luz and Camila's characters is that there are a lot of unknowns in there lives before the show, or at least it's just not made as clear as it could be. Exactly how long ago was it that Manny died? How bad was the bullying Luz faced? Is Luz diagnosed or not? Heck we don't even know the names of most of the people here. Like why did only one of Vee's camp friends get a name (and even that only happened like a year after they debuted) and what about the kids at Luz's school, particularly the two nerdy who talked to her in TtT.
To get back to the topic I brought up at the beginning of the post. Leaving things unknown like this can prevent people from being as understanding and sympathetic to the characters as they could be. Not showing Luz being bullied is one example. Camila not being shown taking measures to help Luz pre-camp is another.
Here's how I'd fix it.
Just establish that Camila took steps to help Luz but things didn't work out whether because Luz screwed up, or something out of their control happened to mess it up. Book Clubs, Art Therapy, tutors to help her in the school subjects she struggled with, maybe her trying out for the Cheerleading team and school play were her ideas. All these things that could be good outlets for Luz and opportunities to form friendships, and they failed for one reason or another.
So when she's suggested to camp, she takes it because nothing else went well.
I know its impossible to write a character perfectly so that everyone will like them. But I think this would help.
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This
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and it feels like false witness as a result yo me too
Dear Toh Fandom,
Belos’ status as a colonial puritan only works on a meta-level; it serves a cathartic release for marginialized people to see a representative of real world oppression beaten by queer and poc characters as it fulfills the fantasy of finally overthrowing an oppressive system. The fatal flaw though is that none of this works on a narrative level because the coven system is either treated as a joke or simply a career path one must choose and we never see the disenfranchisement of wild witches. People largely get off scot-free opposing Belos, which undermines his credibility as both a dictator and a villain because no one cares about him until the plot needs them to.
Belos as a villain only works if you project your own feelings and desires in wanting to see the Evil Christian/Evil Parent destroyed. While this is extremely satisfying emotionally, it does not make a sound story.
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Was anyone else disappointed with Luz's palisman?
We spent so long waiting to find out what the egg would be and it ends up being a creature we've never seen or heard of, that can actually be anything at all.
It just felt a bit super special main character without a lot of impact on the plot.
Maybe I'm just being childish. Like that one episode of scooby doo where the bad guy is someone they've never met and Velma has a tantrum saying that it's not fair and this one doesn't count.
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hunter and luz: talk about belos and the magic system, open up to each other about their trauma and fears, rescue each other from dire circumstances
hunter and amity: relate to each other as abused children and perfectionists who are afraid of letting people down
hunter and gus: relate to each other’s experiences of being used by people and helps calm each other down in a moment of distress, also finds a common middle ground with a piece of media they both enjoy
hunter and willow, the literal love interests: uhhh both of them are considered half a witch because one of them was a late bloomer and the other is literally disabled?
#i just find it so funny that hunter has a deep emotional connection and an interesting dynamic with everyone BUT his love interest#they really couldn’t think of something that doesn’t contradict his initial character?#lilith and kikimora hated hunter because he was a PRODIGY that’s literally the opposite of what he said!!#this ship was so messy lol they were trying so hard to make two incompatible characters compatible#toh critical#toh criticism#toh salt#toh discourse#anti toh#anti huntlow#huntlow salt
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Its about teen rebellion being justified because it leads to a freer lifestyle
Been dealing with this with the X-men for longer. Recognized it with the emperor replaced our traditions (in 50 years)
I am sure better read.
Well if prefer queer rebellion. While born this way is the justification for queerdom there is a sense of self discovery and choice of LIVING a gay and free life (also too many... discoveries for it to seem the same as say skin color or celebral palsy)
if you were the writer of the show what type of bigotry in the Owl House show would you include so it would make the inhabitants have flaws without Belos’s influence?
WRONG! bops you on the head
If you make fictional bigotry in your story, you should not then make that bigotry TRUE. It's actually a part of the problem with Belos' death. By making it so that he claims "We as humans are better than these people because we wouldn't let someone die mercilessly like this," only to then have the characters literally go, "Well we aren't," then you justify the bigot. He is not a bigot... He's just correct. They are as awful, cruel and evil as he believes.
Star Rail had this problem in 2.0 where they had a character theoretically be treated with prejudice for his race. However, someone states what that means and 3/5 matched dead on for how he behaved. The one most targeted at him was in fact 100% correct for that patch. As such, it's hard to call that racist instead of an objectively correct judge of character.
And, in case it isn't VERY clear: That is really fucking awful to do as a writer. Even if these are fictional prejudices, it still is like writing a real world stereotype to its stereotype and nothing else. It makes something that is fundamentally irrational and cruel, logical and justified. That's not the message you should be sending to put it mildly.
This is one of the rough elements of including bigotry in a story. You have to be smart enough to first pinpoint why people were bigoted in the first place as most hate groups have an agenda. Manifest Destiny was an excuse for expansion and cruelty, claiming that God preordained their right to this place and so the people who were already there were trespassers and beneath them for they were not blessed by God. The main purpose though was to have some sort of excuse to get what they want. Then you need to show how this is codified into the dominant society. What do people think are the stereotypes that justify their hate? Then you need to turn that back around to show how those people are not what is being claimed and the blunt fact that these lies are spread mostly for personal gain or comfort.
Belos' hate for wild witches is just... They're evil. They are godless heathens who care not for others suffering. Yes, eventually they try to claim he's doing this for glory but it's flimsy when he's ready to die to reach this goal. Can't get glory when you died in another realm, can you? Worse yet, S1 of TOH just makes this belief fact for the majority of the Isles. Remember episode two with "I WANT TO WEAR YOUR SKIN"? It's why they have to retcon the Isles to having been a paradise before Belos arrived or else he's just correct. They have to claim everyone is a greedy asshole because of him or else from go, the show is on his side.
Now we could go into his prejudice against wild witches but... That doesn't actually exist. He doesn't believe in it and seemingly no one else does either. Hunter doesn't, Bump doesn't, Lilith barely cares about it and more in a way that makes the difference be between industry and freelance work, etc. etc. In fact, it's not prejudice in the Isles: It's just law. Eda is factually breaking the law and that's how everyone treats it. As a bounty to be collected. Not someone who is objectively, abhorrently wrong in the eyes of their society because of this fact about themselves. A fact mind you that Eda chose which actually isn't normal for bigotry. Most that critique go with something that is who the person is by birth, whether that be transgender, gay, a certain race, etc. like that. The closest is discrimination through religion which is not really the vibe this gives because no one actually cares about the religion of the Titan either. It's at BEST a representation of Jim Crow laws but like... It also applied to literally every single living being on the Isles at one point because this show is really bad at this angle.
For the wild witch prejudice to actually function, people would need to think wild witches eat babies, steal your magic, burn down towns, etc. like that. Eda should send people screaming... And so should Luz. Which is why this isn't the case. See, Eda being Momma Eda would have been a great critique of how people saw her. How this one choice made them assume things that were inherently wrong. That's how you do critique of bigotry. But at the same time, that means Luz would have had to fight for acceptance. Fight to clear her name. She couldn't have gone to a magic school in episode because quite literally everyone on the Isles should hate her desire for magic because she inherently can't be a part of the coven system so her dream is to be a wild witch.
The show NEVER deals with complications like that though. That's why Eda is the only wild witch. That's why no one cares about her being a wild witch. It's why in the same episode that Bump is trying to apply for funding from the Emperor's Coven, he has Luz, APPRENTICE TO EDA THE OWL LADY, at his school as a regular student. I can't imagine how that would cause a problem. -_-
Which yes, making the Isles fearful and hateful about the limitless self expression of being a wild witch would make them flawed. Would make them follow a false belief as part of the grand scheme of a bigot. It's almost like the people at the top spread their false beliefs in order to gain power and control the masses. It is actually a good idea for it to have been Belos' influence that caused this hate it's just not actually there in the show, regardless of what anyone else tries to say.
And if you want an example of all of this done right? Zecora. From My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. I'm not even kidding. In her introductory episode, we are shown that because she is different, a zebra who lives in the woods, EVERYONE in Ponyville is terrified of her. Then when something goes wrong, it assumed to be her fault. However, the Poison Joke actually being told is that they all made fools of themselves while being hateful. That if they had just listened to her, extended trust to her, there would have been no problem because their prejudices were inherently irrational and wrong.
In 22 minutes, My Little Pony addresses bigotry better, more comprehensively and more meaningfully than TOH does in THREE SEASONS. But... I guess only one has gained the reputation for being deep and thoughtful so we should just assume it did it better, right?
Sorry but I prefer to focus on reality than the biased perception that fits my narrative. See you next tale.
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i think we should discuss the topic of "for someone who hates ( xyz ), you sure do talk about it a lot", because i've been seeing it around lately and, generally, when you're an anti of something, you'll likely get this comment at least once or twice.
for my end of the conversation, i'm going to use some comparisons.
imagine a spectrum with me real quick.
on one end, there's robin x raven ( stay with me here ), on the other, there's c//a, and, in the middle, there's huntlow.
let's go one by one.
robin x raven ( or robven? idk ).
what's wrong with the ship? nothing. i can see the appeal, i respect people who ship them, and there are times where i even think it's cute. it's just not for me. i don't feel anything particular positive or negative towards it. i respect and accept that it exists, and am happy for the people who find enjoyment in it.
now c//a.
what's wrong with the ship? well, if you've been on my account, you'd already know, but, in short - Catra is Edward Cullen but a thousand times worse and Adora is a more interesting and depressing Bella Swan. it's problematic ( abusive, incestuous ), and has consequences that could, and, in my experience, has, harm people. i accept that it exists, but i don't respect it, because there is nothing to respect. i don't harass the supporters, but i spread the message that this is not a relationship you should idolize, on an objective level.
and, finally, huntlow.
what's wrong with the ship? why's it in the middle? this is a little more complicated to explain, but my main issues with huntlow don't necessarily negatively impact reality. at least, not the show. the fandom is insanely toxic at times, but that's a different story.
i think the ship is forced, boring, and doesn't do anything substantial for either of Hunter's or Willow's character. at worst, it can feel like a damsel in distress kind of situation, depending on how you view Willow's insecurities that come up later. at best, it's just there and can make you cringe. again, depending on how you view it.
but that's not really anything harmful. there's way better, but there's way worse. sooo, why do i see it as in the middle?
personally, i think huntlow is a disservice to aroace representation. and bisexual // pansexual rep, to be honest ( cuz Willow is apparently pan? even though we... y'know what, nvm ).
Willow being aroace would've felt so natural and perfect to me. and, on top of that, if she was, she wouldn't have been a stereotype! the community is typically represented by scientists who have a difficult time with connections // relationships. which, while it isn't necessarily bad ( on the surface, at least, though i'd argue there's a few implications there that are... not great ), it would've been nice to see an aroace person just be... a person instead of an example, y'know? i'm not sure if i'm making total sense.
essentially, i don't think huntlow is bad for existing. i just think that it's a wasted opportunity.
my point is, context matters.
i don't like // ship robven, but i'm not going to talk about it at length because there's nothing wrong with it.
i don't like // huntlow, but i do talk about it every now and then because Hunter and Willow being in a romantic relationship felt forced, not positively serving either characters, and like a disservice to Willow. but it's existence can be discussed, as long as everyone is treated with respect.
i don't like c//a, but i do talk about it a lot because people are still romanticizing and idolizing it, when it is, objectively, a horrible idea and Catra is an abhorrent person.
try to imagine if someone who ships robstar ( like me ) constantly hates on robven, just because it doesn't fit their preferences. that would be childish, harmful, and close-minded.
now imagine someone who hates on c//a, because it has a harmful, dangerous message that shouldn't be given to anyone, especially children.
you see what i mean?
i think the "for someone who hates ( xyz ), you sure do talk about it a lot" topic is less black and white than its presented.
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I did like Hunter…………..until I didn’t. Hunter is a little bit out of character in season 2B and after (idk if that’s what it’s called, I’ll reference episode quotes so I can be more understood) and I don’t know if Belos switched off his memory or maybe Hunter found a way into the human realm the first time and got shot in the brain with a gun which destroyed his frontal lobe, then came back. Let me explain. This is a quote that really annoys me.

(Sorry about the edited words, I couldn’t find the original clip)
Hunter has met teens before………..

She wasn’t so much into rules……..
Also Hunter takes short cuts and is rebellious himself before this episode. He didn’t kill the sylcidomus. He also lies and takes joy in people’s suffering sometimes. That doesn’t seem like someone who is an uptight stickler for rules. Yes, he says “The emperor ordered me to slay one. I’m just following orders” but that has a different tone to it. He’s just laid back, not excited about following rules.

I don’t like how this episode likes to portray him like he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He does. He knows bad things happen in the emperor’s coven. He knows the emperor is not a merciless man. He literally is scared when he realizes he’s failing because Emperor Belos abuses him constantly. Yet, here this isn’t manipulation, he genuinely believes for some reason in this episode that it is a good thing to join the emperor’s coven. I don’t like how this episode babies him. It’s just weird.
The next few episodes with him are fine since he’s either somewhat back in character or he’s having a mental breakdown so it makes sense that he would not be himself.
Season 3 tho……….

Cue all the times that Hunter was not being “the golden guard”





Yes, the last picture is Hunter being the literal golden guard but he’s getting abused and has no authority in this scene. Hunter is typically emotionally stronger than this or hides his fear.
This is probably why the fandom overly babies Hunter.
I know the show needed to be speeded up so that might be the reason for this one but the ones in “Any sport in a storm” make no sense.
Also the scene where he repeats his line from the first time he was introduced was annoying. Shut up Hunter😡
If you are a fan of Hunter still, tell me why or do you just ignore these things sometimes? I do tend to fixate on certain personality traits on characters I initially like so if something isn’t right, I get weirded out.
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I disagree I think that they should have had the witches acting as human astely we're and act as gory and terrible as they were at the exact same time as it was there was a lot of sandbagging overall I mean just compared to the pilot or first episodes to the creature designs and characters and how the society was set up and slowly we basically move into slightly more halloweeney version of hogwarts
And then the dreaded the witches are being oppressed by the evil man plot shows up while I'm more familiar with it and fantasy fiction growing up and the 90s especially around the pagan revival and such
Once that started happening I knew I had to check out I only dipped my head in occasionally around the second season but frankly I think the shortening was the best thing that happened to this because I know with its pedigree It would not have a tight story telling fast characterization and amazing pivoting and whirlbuilding if they thought that they could milk this thing 4325 seasons like it happened with star adventure time Stephen universe and many others
Besides I think they were very explicit on anything that really did matter.
As a result I'm not as given to blame the publisher or editors in this case for everything I consider wrong with the story
I've seen a lot of people saying that Belos would have been better off being a character on another show and that Owl House didn't deserve him, but I've never seen people regret that Owl House doesn't belong to a channel with an older audience, like Adult Swim. Think about it. I love Disney for all the things that other people love and hate about it, but their main audience is children. Of course, everyone's favorite Alex Hirsch, was able to show a LOT of things not for children in Gravity Falls, but basically this show is about a town of humans, where the characters are mostly humans who do human things. Monsters, as part of the plot, appear in only twenty-five percent of the episodes and we know almost nothing about how they live. Boiling Isles is a place in another realm, a giant rotting corpse of an ancient powerful titan inhabited by witches and demons. Boiling rain is pouring from the sky, the oceans are boiling too, creatures like fire bees, spider-spewing griffins, slitherbeasts and hand dragons live all over the corpse. And despite this, witches and sentient demons behave like humans, react to things like humans. For fandom witches are just humans with different ears and magic and practical the same technologies and events and clothes that we have. They have only few things that makes them different from humans. We know that they make pies out of sentient fairies, we saw how Eda ate Adegast, we heard Lilith call Luz Eda's “human pet” and heard Eda say “Witches eating babies is so 1693”, but no one pays attention to it. People mostly discuss how cute Lumity is, or how bad Belos, Odalia, Tibbles and Kikimora are. People prefer to consider the Boiling Isles as some kind of utopia where everything is fine. But it’s boring. At first, the show showed one thing, and then abruptly began to show something completely different. Eda and King said that there is no weather on the Boiling Isles, but we never saw anything but boiling rain. We have never seen plagues, gorenados, shale hail, painbows and knife season.
It's sad that people forget that Boiling Isles is a completely different world. It's very rare to see fanfiction or comics that take this into account. I have some Belos Redemption AU headcanons touching on this topic, but I have concerns that I won't get an answer. What do you think?
Hey, Anon!
I totally agree with you that the series should have had the witches act and appear more differently than the humans in the show, and about how the Isles isn't a perfect utopia.
Also, I think the Owl House works fine as a show for children / younger and older teens.
Not sure what you mean by when say that you won't get an answer (like I won't answer your ask?), BUT, AAA, WISHING YOU THE BEST ON YOUR BELOS HEADCANONS !!! 🫶
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The Owl House vs. Amphibia: BIPOC Representation as a POC Viewer
Okay so I’ve been sitting with this for a while, and as a POC myself, I really want to talk about how The Owl House and Amphibia approached BIPOC representation—because honestly? Amphibia did it way better.
Let’s start with The Owl House. Luz is a Dominican-American girl, right? But it really felt like her cultural identity was just there. Like, surface-level (not saying this is a bad thing but I wish her background was explored more). She’s brown-coded, yeah, but the show barely explores what that means for her. There’s a few references (her mom, her name, the occasional food mention), but it never felt like her heritage shaped who she was or how she saw the world. Luz could’ve been literally any background and the plot wouldn’t change. That’s a little disappointing for a POC main character—it feels like the representation was more of a checkbox than something fully integrated into her story.
Now contrast that with Amphibia. Anne is Thai-American, and it shows. Her culture is part of her character in a natural and loving way. We see her family, we see Thai food, the language, traditions, even a whole episode set in a Thai temple in LA. Her identity isn’t just an aesthetic, it matters to who she is and how she moves through both Earth and Amphibia. It’s never forced, it just is. THAT’S representation.
And I’m not saying Luz isn’t important representation—she is. But as someone who’s always hungry for deeper, more authentic stories about people like me, Anne’s journey just hit so much harder. She felt real. Luz, while a fun and quirky protagonist, just didn’t have that same level of depth when it came to her identity as a young woman of color.
Compared to Anne’s cultural depth, Luz often felt more like a character with BIPOC aesthetics rather than fully realized representation. It wasn’t entirely absent, but for a groundbreaking show with an openly queer Latina lead, the lack of a deep cultural presence was a missed opportunity. The Owl House did incredible work with LGBTQ+ representation, but imagine if Luz’s Dominican identity was explored with the same level of care that her queerness was. That would’ve been everything.
Anne’s story wasn’t about being Thai, but her Thai identity was always present. Luz’s story, however, didn’t integrate her Dominican identity as naturally—it felt more like a label rather than a lived experience. That’s why Anne’s representation felt more effective (to me at least); it was simply part of her, without having to be a grand statement.
Anyway, this isn’t about tearing down one show or putting the creators on blast. Both shows did so much for queer and BIPOC kids in animation. But I do think it’s okay to want more.
Would love to hear what others think.
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Interesting idea: King resenting Luz and Eda.
There's no doubt Eda cares a great deal for King. But it did take her a long time to acknowledge him as her son. Aside from the fact that King adopted her instead of the other way around, he's also leading a pretty sheltered life. No education, no friendships, mostly just lounging around home and playing games with himself. And this is because Eda, while loving, treated him more like a roommate and pet than a kid for the first eight years of his life.
So maybe when Luz comes along and is treated more like a straight kid than King is, King becomes resentful because it's what he wanted from Eda for so long.
King: "Why did I have to be the one to break out the adoption papers!?" Why did it take you only a couple weeks to call her your kid, and it took me almost a whole decade!???!
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It always bothers me when fans mock or make fun of critics/antis for constantly making posts venting their grievances about a story they dislike and say shit like “oooh why can’t u just talk about something u like11” or “pfft, get a life and do something more productive than complaining about a show!” and plenty of other shit.
Not only does this come across as condescending, it’s also hypocritical. So if people aren’t allowed to make posts about things they don’t like…I guess that means that fans can’t make posts about things they do like. I throw these same arguments fans use against people who complain about something that’s enjoyed by a good amount of people. “OMG why do you care so much about a stupid show” and shit like that.
Fans like these don’t realize that the reason for why people talk about things they don’t like is the same reason for why people talk about things they do like; they are passionate about it and enjoy analyzing it. They like breaking it down because they just enjoy media analysis. It’s not unhealthy, it’s not obsessive, it’s just a perfectly normal way of consuming media. And critical communities on Tumblr allow for a safe space for people to voice their grievances about a piece of work without being harassed by deranged stans.
My point is; let people make blogs criticizing shows whenever the fuck they want. What they are doing is no different than what fans of the work are doing; analyzing the story and voicing their opinions.
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*cries in feels unalone* the resolution to Luz and amity conflict is textbook isekai!!! With no setbacks or need for change to indicate worth either.
With that other ask saying Luz has no future in the human realm right now, especially since she’s a nonwhite LGBT girl who Republicans would want dead for existing, I thought of something else:
If TOH’s finale aired now, would people react more negatively to Luz living in the human realm and going to human school at the end? She was definitely shown to be more at home in the BI, and again, everyone in power would want her dead or deported or *something*. Recently someone made a joke to me about how you couldn’t do The Wizard of Oz nowadays since Dorothy would have absolutely no reason to go back to Kansas. Luz was better off in the Boiling Isles than in a world that hates her for existing.
Please reply.
[Rubs temples]. Guys, guys. Luz is fictional. Her world is not our own. Gravesfield is not depicted as being an unwelcoming place. Her "not fitting in" was just her having trouble in school and two bitchy ladies in the park that she didn't even overhear. She is "more at home" in the BI because it's the place where she can actually do magic, not because Gravesfield was such a horrible place to live in. Camilla and Vee live there full time and no one is worried about them.
Heck, when we do see Gravesfield, it's really not a bad place to live! Masha is able to be out about their gender identity at work, Vee finds friends, Jacob loses his job and gets arrested for assault, two random students praise Luz after her classroom freakout! How is this place so terrible?
Y'all need to stop projecting your own fears and anxieties onto the show, especially when the text demonstrates the opposite of what you're afraid of.
As for that joke your friend made about The Wizard of Oz, you know when that movie came out?
1939.
The final year of the Great Depression. Does the movie go into the world's worst economic crisis? No, because it's about a young girl learning to stand up for herself and not run away from her problems. Kansas is boring and dreary in comparison to the bright and whimsical Oz, but it's still her home, it's where her family is. You could absolutely make it today because it's styled like a classic fairy tale instead of dealing with the gritty reality of 1930s America.
Toh is also a fairy tale. It has straight forward morals, simple characterization, clear distinctions between good and evil, and a happy ending. Any gestures at complexity or subversions are superficial at best. It does not deal with politics or current events. Luz is never in any danger in Gravesfield, she just wants to live out her fantasies and quite frankly, the show is not very good at showing that her life is terrible. We don't even see her get bullied, it's simply told to us.
On a final note, since some people get upset when the hero has to leave the cool fantasy world, the Hero usually has to return home from the Fantasy World because it's a metaphor for growing up/growth/accepting change, etc. Anne is separated from Amphibia seemingly forever. Dipper and Mabel were only supposed to be in Gravity Falls for the summer. Dorothy leaves Oz. Change is inevitable and you can't live in the Fantasy World forever. There are exceptions of course, but that all depends on how the Fantasy World functions in the story. In toh's case, the function of the BI is muddled because there's no clear contrast between it and Gravesfield. The show wants you to think that this place is better for her but it never put in the work to demonstrate why. Luz doesn't really grow much as a character either, her priorities just shift. So in the end, the BI is basically a power fantasy for Luz. She would only find Gravesfield intolerable to live in because she can't do magic, not because of some fault with the town.
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bro. he had MAIN CHARACTER energy. not saying he had to be the main character but it's absurd how the writers made such an insanely skilled character with a powerset that is so insanely versatile and expansive (you're saying he can make ANY kind of illusions, look into a person's worst memories and also torture them by forcing them to relive their worst memories??) and then were like "nah he's the black best friend, he's just there for emotional support ?? like ???
#i will forever be mad about how they treated gus#and willow too to an extent#toh critical#toh salt#toh criticism#gus porter
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Not wittober art, but just reminding about basic internet etiquette bc it seems some mfs forgot
stop posting hate under the wittober tag if you don't like the event
i personally think people who hates something and then continues to actively engage on it are massive losers
it is very mind-boggling to actively engage on something that you don't like, it's literally not made for you so don't insert yourself in OUR space
Let people enjoy in their own sub-fandom space especially when they're just minding their own business holy shit
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Couples I wish were written better.



#korrasami#starco#oshamir#lumity#catradora#she ra and the princesses of power#the acolyte#the owl house#star vs the forces of evil#legend of korra#adora#catra#osha aniseya#qimir the stranger#luz noceda#amity blight#marco diaz#star butterfly#asami sato#korra#toh critical#spop critical#lok critical#acolyte critical#svtfoe critical#chaggie#hazbin hotel#charlie morningstar#vaggie#hazbin critical
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