#the blitz+loona & loona+octavia stuff

[angelshizuka]

Happy Father’s Day (June 16th, 2024)

Stolas & Octavia + Blitzø & Loona

[celtrist]

I really want to see a more fucked up version of Charlie in canon. Like, okay, I am a die-hard for sweet bubbly girls in media. But I always see how some people make Charlie actually, oh I dunno... demonic? And it's so refreshing for her type of character. I could honestly see her having low empathy (and we kinda see this with how she handled Angel's situation or even Vaggie's nervousness about taking control on an activity). An exploration of that trait (if it was intended) would be interesting to see for a protagonist, especially when her main goal is about helping others. I would love to see her actually have a level of difficulty in understanding others' feelings from the other residents, sinners, and even her father.

But give her a fucked up side. Not a "she gets more power when she's angey uwu", but a "oh, she's a little fucked in the head". It would give so much to her character that she just doesn't have.

@/murmurmurena (don't wanna bother them so slash there we go) has some fun ideas with Charlie. I highly encourage people to check their stuff out! So many fun dark ideas with her character while also still keeping to her canon personality pretty well! Personally, I think Charlie being a bit more naive to her own messed up traits would work best but her also being aware of these traits can make for some interesting character for her.

THIS FIC, "A Game Between You and I". RIGHT HERE WITH THE FIRST CHAPTER. A bit of spoil for the fic here: but I love how they handled Charlie’s absolute ignorance as to why the idea of Russian roulette is horrifying to Angel Dust. It doesn't feel like her being intentionally malicious or aware that she's the odd man out here. This is also a pretty old fic going by only the pilot, but the point still stands that it was such a fun take for her character!

Charlie is one of my favorite characters in the show in part of the POTENTIAL she could have as being the most bubbly sweetheart character while also being the most messed up character in the show. I can't say I have strong confidence with the show's writing and fully expect them to stick with Charlie being the "nice girl but oh no, don't get her angry or she gets scarwy". Which isn't bad for a character mind you, there's just so much more potential to Charlie outside of that trope, especially when you get into the theories of her either being a doll, Roo's biological daughter, or what have you. And for the MAIN CHARACTER of the show, it would be not only interesting but also bring the spotlight back to her.

There's really no question that the side characters steal the show, particularly all the male characters. If I'm honest, Charlie does not feel like she gets a lot of love from the show itself when she's supposed to be the main character. She feels far more flat compared to the rest of the characters (again, the male cast in this "female-lead" show has more depth than most of the female cast currently. I wouldn't be pointing this tidbit concerning the genders of characters if it weren't for the fact Viv defended Helluva's lack of development with their female cast by saying "Hazbin is a female-lead show and Helluva is a male-lead" and Hazbin ended up with it not feeling female lead (to me) and the male cast just completely stealing the show. I don't normally care about gender stuff, especially since I do personally lean interest towards male characters. But using one show as a defense for poor development of the female characters, and then that show not really holding up with no very interesting well-developed feeling female characters irritates me. It's just very clear that these shows don't seem to care much about the female cast :/)

If you like how Charlie is written that's totally fine. PERSONALLY, I just think they're missing so much opportunity with her character by just making her the standard female character type. I honestly don't have a lot of faith they'll actually do something with Charlie's character though. She's a pretty static character in S1 being the same from start to end. Not changing or learning anything to create any development. What does the end of season Charlie do that start of season Charlie wouldn't do? Fight back? Because we see with the pilot (which is the “first episode”) that Charlie does fight people if pushed like with Katie Killjoy and even Valentino. Static characters can work in media depending on the show or their role. But Charlie is the MC of a show about “bettering one's self”. So to have her as a static with not a lot of strong dilemmas for herself (like we see with Angel Husk Al and even Vox) seems silly. Plus, considering Hazbin is telling a whole story and it's not a fun episodic thing, characters are expected to grow on some level. Or else, what was the point of their hero's journey?

[milliesaxe]

I’ll defend Seeing Stars with my life because we do actually need to see the silly/goofy. We must witness stolitz playing off each other and supporting each other and enjoying each other outside of sex in the present. We have to have the sweetness to balance out their angst so that we are compelled to root for them going forward. It’s not just fluff or filler it is necessary.

[funstarscircusmichealafton]

I had no damn idea what to draw for the background so I drew that

[theophagie]

Being a stolitz blended family hater *Jesus on the cross.jpeg*

[stolasbuckzo]

Another fantastic fanfiction!

Inspiration:

[66kenobi66]

While Helluva Boss's songs are full of stupid, contradictory, and plain wrong lines, it's this one that really gets me...

TW/CW: S/A, Abuse

Because...it's just not true?

If it were about Blitz, I guess it could work? Blitz is basically selling his pride, dignity, and life to Stolas in order to get the book to the living world. It would be disgusting and cruel, talking about a victim like this and saying he "sold his life" to the person who's abusing him, but in a way, it would be tragically accurate.

But it's used against Stolas...? Why?

Stolas did everything but "sell his life". Before this line, Ozzie talks about how Stolas "had a smoking wife, a daughter too". But he still does? And even if Stolas "lost" Octavia and Stella like Ozzie said, he clearly doesn't care.

During Loo Loo Land Stolas neglects his daughter, not giving a damn whether she's happy, just using the day as an excuse of sexually harass Blitz. He only comes to realize his wrongs when Octavia literally runs away to cry about how she feels like her father doesn't love her. He makes a half-assed apology that Octavia has to accept, and all is well! Except it's not, because in Season 2, this happens AGAIN.

Octavia once again runs from her home and her father, this time because he was too busy getting a hate boner while arguing with Stella to give a shit about spending time with his daughter. He doesn't even apologize this time! Loona comes up to Octavia and gabs to her about how she should give her father a pass because he's just a poor, rich, abuser who doesn't know any better and is "trying his best".

Even more confusing, why should Stolas care about "losing" Stella? He hates her, she hates him. They can't stand each other and want to be rid of one another as quick as possible, so shouldn't Stolas "losing" Stella be the best thing that's ever happened him?

Not to mention, Stella acted abusively towards Stolas. Whether you agree with that choice for her character, she still yells at and throws things at Stolas. What would he "lose" from cutting off an abuser like her? If anything, he would thrive even more than he does if he didn't have Stella breathing down his neck like she does. Besides, if he divorces her, he keeps most of the important stuff (money, power, etc.) so even if he did "care" for her he's still well off without her.

And that leads to my biggest point: even if he loses Stella and Octavia, HE DID NOT "SELL HIS LIFE". NOT. EVEN. CLOSE.

He's still rich and powerful, plus he has powerful friends/connections. He can still have whoever he wants. He can still command others through either manipulation, force, or magic. He can still abuse those he deems lower than him.

Stolas can do whatever he wants. Stolas didn't sell his life for shit.

[irrelevantlostie]

Okay okay okay so hear me out okay so we know that Octavia has that line from the trailer where she says “you never loved mother and you don’t love me, you love him!” So I predict that in Sinsmas Stolas and Blitz will try to get Octavia back from Stella because you know Stolas knows she’s a lunatic and wants Via to be safe

And she won’t want to go with him because he sacrificed his powers for Blitz (and as we know Octavia never liked Blitz because she sees him as tearing her family apart).

And that’s how they get attacked by Andre again and the iconic scene where Blitz defends Stolas with the sword and stuffs (bc obvs he and Stella will try to stop them)

But I think they will at least eventually be successful in convincing Via that her mother is a lunatic somehow (maybe hopefully Loona will be involved in that bc they had that scene in Seeing Stars (my fav ep btw)) mostly because she is too pure to be trapped with her and doesn’t deserve that, AND Stolas cares about her too much to not do anything.

And I just want Stolas+Blitz+Loona+Via to be a happy family okay

Anyways rant over I hope some of this actually makes sense and isn’t just a bunch of incoherent bullshit lmao

TL;DR: Sinsmas prediction = Stolas + Blitz rescue mission to save Octavia

[a-bit-too-critical]

Holy shit?!? I watched the newest ep thinking it would be crap that I wouldn’t care about at all (especially with stolASS in the thumbnail), BUT THAT WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF DECENT??? IM KINDA OBSESSED IN SOME WAYS (obviously minus the Stolitz crap but still 😭)

Spoilersss below ofc

STELLA IS BACK LETS FREAKING GOOOO!!!

I do think the fact she never even CONSIDERED reporting Stolas’ illegal grimore use is really stupid, it feels like Viv didn’t know what would cause the authorities to arrest Blitzø so she made some crap up 😭

Here’s a more fun idea: Stella saw Blitz fall out of a window that fateful day with the grimore, but always assumed Blitz stole it and Stolas got it back easily considering the whole hell hierarchy (IMPs are seen as useless and weak). During a recent visitation day with Octavia, she was plotting ways to get rid of Stolas, asked her, and Octavia spilled what’s ACTUALLY been going on, which she then passed onto Andrelphus. Not perfect but a bit better than what was shown here I’d say

…Also why does Andrelphus keep calling Stella hot?? That’s your sister bro?? Why not make him say “you’re lucky you’re powerful” or “you’re lucky you’ve got insight on Stolas’ current life” or even “you’re lucky you’re of use to me”?? But no, we got stuff that kinda sounds like incest 😭

Not bothering to add an image here but I love the interns, they’re probably there for a college requirement or something (assuming hell has an education system) and Blitz is just like “HELL YEAH FREE LABOR” (more proof that bro does not actually care about his workers, idc what the show wants you to believe lmao) (good to see they likely weren’t caught up in the arrest tho, probably let go after they explained their story thankfully)

Also Moxxie dear god I felt so bad for him, he was sobbing and looked genuinely distressed, especially after hearing “we are going to beat you”. He definitely has ptsd from his dad and he deserves so much better than Blitz as a boss /srs

I also felt pretty bad for Loona, she doesn’t even want to work at IMP and doesn’t give a crap about the Stolas drama yet is now being arrested over it. I’ll get into this more later but proof that hell doesn’t care about hellhounds and Imps!!

Back to Moxxie, Blitz stuffing paper in his mouth while he was clearly visibly distressed caused me to lose a piece of my soul (and we’re expected to laugh at it, as usual :/)

Haven’t mentioned Millie much here but that’s kinda because she knows what to do in this kind of situation? She’s a wrath imp, she’s not afraid to kill literally anybody to save her life. She knows how to hide evidence and fight as well. She is completely fine in this scenario and knows what to do (and is clearly shown to be staying mostly calm, unlike Moxxie or Loona).

SATAN!! THE DRAGON DESIGN FITS PERFECT FOR HIM!!! this is by far my 2nd favorite sin design (only behind Bee, unpopular opinion but I freaking love her design)!!! I also love how they gave him buff arms but skinny legs (as he’s likely punching, grabbing/choking, and stuff like that a lot, but is rarely kicking, jumping around (he can fly, no need), or even running that much)!

ALSO LEVIATHAN AND BELPHAGOR!!! Belphagor fits pretty dang well imo, though I with they’d made her a bit more “plush like” to represent a sort of laziness and preference of sleeping instead of waking. Not sure how to feel about Leviathan just yet, I like the 2 head approach but the left head is just a copy paste Glitz or Glam 😭

AND BEEEEEE MY GIRL IS BACK!!! SO NICE TO HEAR HER TALK AGAIN AND HER NEW OUTFIT LOOKS SO FREAKING GOOD ON HER!!!

Alsooo I love that Moxxie has finally had enough of his boss!! He fought against his crappy defense of “attempting a crime isn’t illegal” instead of blindly defending him. You go Moxxie!!!

Anddd Andrelphus once again says his sister is hot FOR NO GOD DAMN REASON, Bee and Ozzie look rightfully disgusted though so at least it’s being portrayed as a negative thing 💀

AND VASSAGO ACTUALLY SPEAKING FULL SPANISH SENTENCES ON SCREEN WITHOUT UNNECESSARY SUBTITLES TRANSLATING HIM??? HOLY CRAP?? ITS A SMALL VICTORY BUT IM TAKING IT!!

Hey so what the hell

THIS MAN GOT HIS EYE FREAKING EXPLODED AND HE COMES OUT OF IT WITH THAT??? THATS IT?!? THATS BARELY EVEN VISIBLE WHAT THE HELL??

HIS EYESIGHT IN THAT EYE SHOULD BE AT THE VERY LEAST WEAKENED IF NOT COMPLETELY BLINDED, AND AT LEAST SOME OF HIS FACE SHOULD BE FREAKING MELTED OR CLEARLY BURNED. VIV, MAYBE TAKE SOME NOTES FROM QUEEN SCARLET FROM WINGS OF FIRE, BECAUSE EVEN THAT KIDS BOOK SERIES SHOWED HER FACE MELTED AFTER INJURY

Ughhh sorry, that one just really infuriated me :(

Ok this one might get a bit headcanon-ish since I selfship with Bee, but they mischaracterized the living hell out of her 😭

No surprise she tries to defend Blitz of course, as far as she can see that’s the father of Loona. But here’s my thing: WHY DOES SHE NOT EVEN TRY TO DEFEND LOONA??? HER BOYFRIEND’S LIKELY BEST FRIEND AND HER SELF DESCRIBED “FAVORITE PERSON”?? UGHHHHH SHE WOULD NOT DO THAT. NUH UH, SHE’S FIESTY AND WOULDNT HESITATE TO DEFEND OR SAVE SOMEONE OF HER OWN, MARGINALIZED KIND. I MEAN SHE LITERALLY INSULTED AND THREW A PENIS-POPSICLE AT MAMMON IN FRONT OF ALL THE OTHER SINS, AND SHE CLEARLY DOESNT THINK TWICE ABOUT IT. DEAR FREAKING GOD SHE WOULD DO SOMETHING-

In short, Bee would not freaking do this. Continue.

We haven’t got to this part of the ep yet so I’ll talk about it more later, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE GONE BACK TO THE WHOLE CLASSISM DISCUSSION!!! FINALLY!!! Satan calls Blitz an “Imp bastard” that they can just kill and not care about, and nearly everyone agrees. With Stolas later however, that is NOT the case. I hate the classism but I love the discussion of why is so screwed up. Beautiful.

Ozzie looking up from his phone was freaking heartbreaking as well. He clearly cares about Fizz to a straight up unhealthy degree and would do anything for him (Codependency), but he knows he can’t do anything here. I think the same goes for Bee at this point, earlier she could’ve stood up and fought but now any bite-back would get her head cut off, especially considering how she is likely viewed for dating a hellhound and how Ozzie is viewed for dating an Imp.

AND BLITZ’S SPEECH?!? IM SORRY BUT IVE GOTTA RECORD THIS ONE ITS JUST TOO PERFECT, THIS IS WHAG THE SHOW SHOULDVE BEEN ABOUT AND THE PATH IT FOLLOWED.

(Ignore my friend yapping about TADC in the discord group 😭)

THIS IS ACTUALLY BEAUTIFUL. AND YKNOW WHAT THIS SHOULDVE BEEN? THE FINALE. THE END. THERE SHOULDVE BEEN NO STOLAS TO SAVE HIM. WHY, JUST WHY COULDNT THIS SHOW HAVE BEEN ABOUT MISSIONS WITH SLOWLY MORE DRAMA AND EVENTUALLY THIS, AND SINCE BLITZ HAS NO RELATIONS WITH THE POWERFUL… he just dies. It would show that, in a society so royally screwed up by this level of classism, they wouldn’t have cared. Our main guy is just some random Imp to them. Blitz never supported the rich, and for that, he died. Now THAT would’ve been a dark yet amazing commentary. But this is Viv so that’ll never happen 😭

Also this is nitpicky but the ass joke with Stolas is just so tonally dissonant, like this is a very serious and celebratory moment that shouldn’t have a stupid joke in it…

ALSO GOD DAMN IT NO NO NO MORE STOLITZZZ 😭

I am never, ever getting over the fact the actually successfully made an “in the only way I know how to… SONG” joke, it’s freaking amazing

Anyway, not going super in depth in this song but STOLITZ DOES NOT DESERVE THIS BOP OMGGG GIVE THIS TO ANOTHER SHIP PLEASE 😭

and of course Stolas called Blitz a worm and a bunch of other derogatory stuff as per usual, sureee you don’t look down on him bucko :/

GANG. WE WON. I DONT CARE IF STELLA GAVE AN EVIL SMILE AFTER THIS, THIS IS THE SWEETEST MOMENT IN THE SHOW. I KNOW STELLA WILL BE A BETTER MOTHER THAN STOLAS, AND I HOPE THE SHOW PORTRAYS HER AS ONE. ALL I KNOW IS THAT STELLA DOES CARE FOR OCTAVIA, BUT LET HER HATRED OF STOLAS GET IN THE WAY OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. Now that there’s no Stolas… they can have an actually good life. Now Viv, you know you screwed up when your “bad ending” over here is actually the best possible outcome.

OK NOW UH

“You’re demon royalty!! Soooo your life has actual worth!”

THE CLASSISM HOLY HELL, I NEED MORE OF THIS. THIS!! THE THING THE SHOW WAS ACTUALLY MEANT TO COMMENTATE ON!!! HELL DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYONE WHO IS NOT ROYAL, NO MATTER HOW SUCCESSFUL THEY ARE. THEY SEE THEM AS PAWNS FOR THE ROYALTY AND HIGHER UPS TO USE.

THIS PUNISHMENT FOR STOLAS WAS ACTUALLY THE BEST WE COULDVE EVER GOTTEN. BECAUSE HE FREAKING DESERVES IT. HE ABUSED THE LOWER CLASS (Blitz) FOR HIS OWN GAIN TO THE POINT OF CHEATING ON HIS OWN WIFE AND NEGLECTING HIS DAUGHTER, PLUS IGNORING EVERY ASPECT OF HIS LIFE EXCEPT HIS LITTLE PAWN TO ABUSE. AND NOW HIS IS THE PAWN, NOW HE HAS TO SEE THE CLASSISM IN ACTION. HELL. YES. Albeit I wish Blitz would throw him out on the street to freaking die but oh well, Viv needs her stupid Stolitz :/

AND THIS. YALL DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW SATISFYING THIS WAS. Blitz managed to fight against classism in a court and show so much support for Impkind, something he should be celebrated for. And Stolas abused said impkind, so should be hated on. Simple as that. Finally the god dang tables have turned and I could not be more pleased.

And even though I’m not a fan of Loona still loving Blitz so deeply despite all the crap he puts her and the others through, I loved seeing Stolas look so horrified. It’s almost like he’s realizing his daughter never freaking says that. It’s almost like he’s realizing he was a god awful father. Took ya long enough.

ALSO I SAW A TEXT ON BLITZ’S PHONE ASKING IF HE ONLY HIRES IMPS??? I THINK HE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE CHALLENGING THE CLASS SYSTEM HERE AND BRINGING DOWN THE HIERARCHY A BIT!!! THE CLASSISM COMMENTARY MIGHT ACTUALLY BE PERMANENTLY BACK HOLY CRAP!!!

I’m not even gonna talk about the Stolitz at the end 💀

But Blitz deserves those fireworks!!! He’s not perfect by any means and his previous abusive actions toward his crew should NOT BE EXCUSED, but what he did here is amazing and should be celebrated. Love to see it

Overall rating: 9/10!!

Pros: Classism commentary, Stella gets custody of Octavia and Andrelphus gets Stolas’ position, Stolas gets what he deserves, Satan has an epic design. Also some higher quality animation!

Cons: Stolitz, Moxxie abuse played for laughs, mischaracterization of Bee

[sunshine-tattoo]

Stuff for HB season 3

m&m relationship arc

while I think that ultimately they will keep the baby, millie and moxxie have a lot of stuff to work on first.

they married young and without knowing much about each other like their pasts. especially moxxie hiding his mob background.

this is their time for the relationship to evolve past the lovey-dovey gooey phase and enter something a bit more serious and with more depth.

they seem to be entering this already since they were able to voice some of their complaints about each other (moxxie watches too many musicals, millie snores, etc) during the sinsmas play fight.

but there will definitely be some angst and serious writing for them.

millie especially will be working on her dismissal of human lives as expendable in her role as an assassin.

perhaps there is a scene where she can't bring herself to kill a pregnant person/ someone with a new baby because she is going to be a mother herself.

octavia learns about what is expected of her as a goetia/ stolas's past

we as the audience have known from the beginning that stolas was forced from a young age to be what was expected of him and to marry/ produce an heir out of obligation.

but I think via has no idea about any of it.

stolas hide it from her because he wanted his child to grow up happy and carefree, without the crushing responsibilities he felt.

now that stella and Andy are in charge I have a feeling that they will be demanding a lot more of her, especially if Andy is looking to punish her for embarrassing him during the sinsmas fight.

honestly to hold on to his own power, he may try to marry her off.

this will allow via to understand how lucky and unique her life has been and how hard stolas worked to protect her.

im also thinking that loona will have a hand paw in this process too.

loona is a neutral party in the family messiness because 1) she is an adult and 2) she is adopted.

via is smart enough to know that loona won't automatically take blitz's side and if she does it must be for a good reason.

stolas unlearning his rich privileges

we have seen a bit of this during the month montage before Sinsmas but it was a lot of stolas being in shock/ feeling sorry for himself.

but stolas really must learn that even tho he had a miserable childhood and immense responsibilities, he also had WAY more of literally everything.

and that in order his level of power to exist, the rest of the hellborn (imps especially) must live in abject poverty.

Imp revolution

despite hellborn not liking stolas, blitz clearly is becoming a folk hero and his actions are leading to revolt.

this may be a season 4 thing, but I think that hell is headed for full on class warfare.

the hellborn will fight against the goetia and demand equal rights and maybe even democracy.

Ozzie and Bee will no doubt be involved because they have hellborn lovers and have always been supportive of the lower classes.

but the rest of the Sins will either be staunchly against or just uninterested.

barbie wire arc

we definitely need a resolution to her hatred of blitz and blaming him for the fire.

her seeing everyone praise blitz for his heroics will lead to a big confrontation about everything.

Anybody got other ideas? :)

[dnpanimationstudioclone]

Saw your Stolas redesign 🌔. Also saw u said you’d rewrite his dynamic with Blitz. U have a rewrite for Stolas in general?

Why yes I do! I’m still thinking on some stuff but I’ve got some general ideas! Aswell for the other gang but I can talk about the rest another time.

My Stolas🌔✨

Personality, What’s his deal with Blitz?

Mix of the Pilots original regal air and Show Stolas softer moments. I'm leaning towards more busy introverted scholar who's also nobility. Hes also MAJORLY socially akward, which can be a struggle for him, especially as an esteemed royal. Often hiding behind a mask of professionalism and sophistication, expected of a Goetia.

Hes a fairly polite and amiable enough bird man but at the same time, out of it. Basically a guy who had his head up in the clouds or in his case, the stars. Despite usually trying to stay professional to his name, opens up way more to people like Octavia and Blitz.

I imagine he tries his best to be respectful and mannerful, being an esteemed royal and all. To high and lower class ranks. I imagine while he'll make mistakes here and there, tried to be more respectful of imps, even before meeting Blitz and developing.

He feels that what he does is important(with the grimnoire and other royal duties)...just doesn't think HES important. Thus initially....he didn't consider just how much his actions could have such an impact on others…

In the end...he was just looking for someone who he could be himself around a bit, someone that was interested in him, not as a member of the Ars Goetia. With all the other Goetia and most people, he’s had to put up the big front of being the “Great Goetia Prince”, always held above massive expectations, and even with his daughter Via, felt like he had to keep up things(to be a proper role model and not wanting to get her involved in thing she didn’t have to be in)

He admires how honest and true to himself Blitz can be, not trying so hard to modify who he is around others( not realizing Blitz puts up a mask aswell at first). Also loves hearing all the stuff he knows about pirates and horses. With Blitz, he learns to more honest and assertive in his life, done with living to Ars Goetia standards which already have their own issues in many ways.

His relationship with Blitz also makes him consider his own privilege more and the power he has over people, even if not intentional. He comes to want to fix the classicism issues with the Ars Goetia and become more involved with the social issues of Hell’s system. Blitz and Via def help make him a better person. Aswell as Loona who def rips into him for his stuff.

He def shares OG Stolas’s interests like Astronomy, books, plants etc. I can imagine he’s def shown Blitz the Centaur constellation 🌌

What’s he’s like with Octavia?

Def sweet, like has those moments like you will be okay and bonds with her with Space/stars stuff and nature, she’s def a daddy’s girl and was def still hurt by what happened.

He def does his best to be considerate of Via, and keep her out of his problems. His biggest issue is being upfront, not being full honest about stuff and avoiding the subject, pretending everything’s fine which it’s NOT! In a way, the affair ended up helping him improve in ways a father. Learns to open up more about his problems and being more honest with her.

What's the situation with Blitzo and the full Moon Arrangement ?

Just to be clear, I’m not the biggest expert when it comes to sexual relation, transaction stuff. But I do know a major issue was def about the consent, power imbalance in all this. This is my take on trying to resolve that, and if there’s something I’m missing please let me know. Just wanted to make it clear I def want consent. I've talked to friends about my ideas and they say my take seems alright, let me know what u think.

For mine I'm making it a weekly meeting so there's more time for their relationship to develop

Sex is only a one of Many options Blitzo can "return the favor" for the Grimnoire. Other options can include chaperoning for Loo Loo land as bodyguards, retrieving important errand runs, helping with his gardening etc. It's a fairly flexible arrangement and Stolas made it absolutely clear sex wasn't mandatory(Blitz just finds it as both the easiest and funnest of options...at first)

For Ozzies, Blitzo decided to invite Stolas in hopes to tag along with M&M like double date, killing two birds with one stone kinda deal

What's his relationship with Stella ?

Def still complicated. It was alot like a business arrangement. Both knew they were in a tight spot, but were able to figure a way they could help the other. Stella being the more social and loving the spotlight, took care of most of Stolas social affairs(hosting events, going to events, meetings) while Stolas focused more on the paperwork(grimnoire and celestial studies)

Stella told herself she could be prepared if Stolas wanted to ask to seek others for certain pleasures he coudlnt with her. Affairs and having side relations weren’t uncommon for nobility(there were things such ans courtesans and mistresses afterall) and people have a high standing. But when he went behind her back to have relations with an Imp of all people and letting himself be publicly exposed and thus their reputation, the one she worked so hard to maintain and even hurt their daughter who was led to believe they genuinely loved each other, she was…less then pleased to say the least.

Does he regret cheating?

Stolas isn't defensive about being called out for cheating. Even if it was a normalized thing amongst nobility, he acknowledges what he did was still wrong and hurt people. What he gets angry about is when others make it about that he cheated with an IMP(Blitzo).

Stolas-I’m certainly not a better because I’m a Goetia, so how is being with someone like Blitz, lowering my standards!?

Main Changes?

Def wanted to make him more accountable, resolve some of the issues with his and Blitz’s relationship and etheir does become a thing with him or if it doesn’t work out, end on genuinely good terms

What do u guys think? How would u go about Stolas or his relationships like with Blitz or Via? I'd love to know💖

[angelshizuka]

"Loona! Oh, Loona, my sweet baby girl! I'm so sorry! I'll never replace you, no matter what you--"

HELLUVA BOSS 2.02 - Seeing Stars

[tocomplainfriend]

ABOUT DANIDRAWS666!

TW: RAPE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, ABUSE, (KILLING/SLAPPING/SHOOTING) THREATS, GROOMING

I write r-pe like that cause of my own Discomfort! If you are confused about it!

Being awful (both art they did and things they said) BTW: Viv has constantly liked this person tweets, even reply. They are a main defender of Helluva/Viv stuff. Is important to check out:

In this comic, Blitz is a minor, and he has "sex" (statutory r-pe as they themselves state!) with someone he is supposed to steal from:

This is her NSFW account: Is both Valentino who r-ped and sexually assaults Angel dust in the canon. In these drawings, he is also frowning and seems to not wanting what's going on in it. (If you are wondering, there is also confirmation of this being her NSFW bellow!)

+Loona right after being adopted (17), doing this with her adopted dad;

Plus this comic of child blitz and adult Stolas (they do ship stolitz)

????????

They also sold body pillows of Octavia (which body pillows aren't always sexual, but they posted it next to NSFW ones??? And drew all this shit above, so??? IDK why make her a body pillow, next to the porn ones)

ALSO???????? Octavia is 17 remember? Loona is 22 (even if you drew a one-sided crush, why draw kids in all these situations??? 17yr Loona, Kid Blitz...????)

Here these too! Wanting to be a bodyguard and killing "shitty fans". Let's think she said this about someone just giving writing suggestions (second one and first one).

She also said this to someone purely based on someone doing redesigns of Viv's characters. (If wrong, please correct me!)

(Sorry for the white part of these screenshots is all a bigger picture I'm cutting apart over here) Here some extra defending Viv and her responding back

This version of the tweet but with Viv's deleted tweet and different pfp.

ALSO, THIS GARBAGE:

This is how they responded to lying about someone getting groomed PLUS dead-naming

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Helluva Boss Sinsmas Spoilers!!!

So much to talk about. I am absolutely feral right now. Even with a bit of time to process everything, I'm still not okay (in the best way possible).

Blitz, giving Stolas lots of horse plushies to cuddle with, cooking Stolas food, helping him with shopping, laundry, getting food and clothes, hell EVEN FUCKING ROBBING stores for Stolas! He's giving Stolas everything he needs right now!!

Not to mention this!!!!

HE HIRED STOLAS!!!!

I also noticed there were a lot of Season 1 parallels. For example:

There were even parallels to "You Will Be Okay" within Octavia's solo, "I Will Be Okay". (Actually, now that I think about it, it might be the revise version/Octavia version of "You Will Be Okay".

Speaking of Octavia...

I made a theory post some time ago about the possibility of her coming in to save her dad.

I WAS FUCKING RIGHT!!!!

Also, I love this anime/manga effect that they chose to do. I was not expecting that and I LOVED IT!!

It is bittersweet, really. She still saved him (and Blitz), obviously deep down she still cares and loves her dad. She's still hurt and disappointed that, in her eyes, he left her for Blitz. I mean, she's not wrong. That's technically what happened, even though we all knew that Blitz would've died if it weren't for Stolas. But she's disappointed that he broke his promise. She has every right to be upset right now.

I know Stolas did everything he could to protect Octavia, to avoid giving her the similar trauma that he went through as a kid. But even then, I feel like some of this complicated stuff could be avoided if he had just told her the truth. Even though it's a hard pill to swallow, Octavia still needs to know the truth about everything.

And yes, I know that Stolas tried to tell her at the end, but at that point, it was technically too late. Octavia is not gonna hear him out right now or any time soon. And that hurts, for both of them.

Perhaps one day, Octavia will learn what's really going on behind the scenes. Perhaps she'll understand better why Stolas acted the way he did, and why he did all of those things. She doesn't have to forgive him right away (though, she could forgive him much later on if she wants to). But I still have a strong feeling, despite everything, deep down, she still loves her dad, even if everything's complicated right now.

Moving on...

MILLIE'S PREGNAT!!!! AHHHHH!!!!

She even called up Sallie May for advice!!! She's worried about how Moxxie would react!!

Honestly, I'm highly sure Moxxie would still love Millie and support her. I really hope he'd be happy with having a child (or children if they end up being twins or triplets). Maybe he'd also be worried about ending up like his shitty father, in which Millie would reassure him that he is NOTHING like his father and never will be.

And of course, Blitz would try to give them Parenting 101 Lessons on What To Do and What NOT To Do. Maybe Stolas would also try to help them out as well, but I feel like he'd get very emotional, because it'd remind him of his daughter.

One bonus thing I wanna mention real quick: Loona's still calling Blitz "Dad".

Alright this post is way too fucking long. I'm so sorry but there's too much to talk about and point out. And I'm sure there's a lot more to talk about, like Blitz and Stolas acting like an actual couple. But I'm gonna leave it here.

Anyway... how are y'all feeling about the Season 2 Finale?

[a-chronic-overthinker]

sinsmas yaps

okay so I was busy all throughout last night and I never saw viv's tweet, so imagine my surprise today when this cinematic masterpiece showed up in my yt notifications!!

overall such a great episode and it leaves me SO. FUCKING. EXCITED for season 3, but more (MUCH more) thoughts below the cut (I tried to make it in order this time ;v;)

first of all, I'm LOVING the domestic Stolitz SO MUCH and soft moments like this is exactly what they need after being in such a hypersexual relationship imho

I didn't even think about how weird eating eggs would be for an owl. Or that stolas eats rats

Stella and Andre are being assholes, what else is new.

It's interesting how they treat Octavia like a child, talking about her as if she weren't in the room with them

The whole scene of them shopping was so cooool

I really like the interesting take on Christmas, also shoutout to blitz flipping the couch over lol

M&M lovingly beating each other up🤌

More goofy moxxie screenshots to add to my collection!!

Stolas has finally fulfilled the prophecy and become IMP's secretary!

Via has such a pretty singing voice, and I love the parallels of her song to "You'll Be Ok" from s1e2

Love how stolas has a fucking mental breakdown in front of the customer

Stolas writing a spicy novel? If we don't get that published into a book it will be such a huge missed oppertunity

Millie being frustrated and wanting to kill the family was especially interesting after getting more background on her after ghostfuckers. After finding out that she's pregnant at the end of the episode, it would make sense if she wanted to kill them because it reminded her of that and she was scared. But it could also connect to her "I'm the muscle and nothing else" insecurity that we saw from ghostfuckers. Even if she's come to peace with that, it's bound to come back on a day all about celebrating your origins.

Laughed my ass off when stolas punched Andre. He def learned that from moxxie and millie

The fight scene was absolute perfection. You can tell the animators said "fuck the budget!"

THE STOLITZ KISS SCENE OMFG

The fact that via saved stolas' life, but still hasn't forgiven him is actually so sad

Yayyy loona has friends to talk to! (I actually didn't think she had any friends other than tex but I'm so happy for her)

Loving all the sinsmas outfits, very bootiful

Millie is fuckin PREGNANT??

That whole scene on the balcony killed me

A little detail I loved was that blitz was actually able to make stolas laugh, even though they are both in such dark places. And I think that's how they are gonna get through it in the end

ill probably post more unpacking this stuff but this is just everything important I noticed. Anyway good job to Viv for another heart wrenching episode!

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My takes on HB "Sinmas"

May be spoilers ahead. Its just my opinion and I'm not very good with words,so please without negativity

- Stella is right in someway for not letting Octavia talk to her father, Stolass is a bad influence for her.

- I wanted to see other sins and other characters celebrating the Sinmas, but it's just progression on Stolitz drama

- The "Be nice to him, he's gay" and Stolas as horse doodle on the whiteboard sounds like it tries to justify his actions. Like I'm not homophobic but it's just weird

- Stolas's "I'M POOR NOW" is SOOO surprising (sarcasm). He's such a baby man, he can't even enjoy the bare minimum from his new life, even the breakfast his "Blitzy" cooked just for him.

- That new Karen sinner design is pretty neat

- Also I asked this question only now but: how newcomer sinners got money to hire IMP? I won't believe if it's like in a video game where they have some money for start.

- Octavia's song is very cool! I liked the visuals (The lyric "And when you're gone I will be okay" is so true)

- As I understand, Via was signing in her closet then there's a question... Why there's Stolas's pills? Why he's hiding them in HER stuff?

- For some reason, I felt happy when Stolas beat Andre's in the face.

- Battle scene was interesting to look at( Music is sick)

- Blitzø's "GET YOUR ICE HANDS OFF MY BOTTOM,BITCH" sounded very unnecessary, I thought his and Stolas's relationship is not about s¢x anymore.

- Loona's full form looks weird and out of place( And moments when Blitz and Moxie were sitting on Loona like a horse was much weirder)

- Via had all rights to snap at Stolas. She saw her dad sacrificing himself for an imp, who made their family bursting. Maybe she was too emotional(Because she's a teen,I can understand this), and she didn't wanted to hear her father's explanations

- That twist that Millie is pregnant was the only thing that shocked me(I already want to see how M&M child would look)

- "I've caused all of this" FINALLY HE GIT IT

IN TOTAL: Episode was well...6/10. Might be better. The thing I liked the most is music. I hope 3rd season will be better