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It's okay to be emotional over a ship.
It's okay to be emotional over a ship. It's okay to be emotional over characters. It's okay to share grievances over a ship as much as it's okay to gush over a ship. It's okay to feel so overwhelmingly negatively over a ship just as much as it's okay to feel so overwhelmingly positive.
While it's always going to be better to focus on positives, it can also be just as good to let out any negatives you might have about something rather than bottling it in and, for some, feeling alone in your thoughts about it.
It is so, so, SO OKAY to be so heavy in emotions concerning a ship whether negative or positive because it means you're invested in the characters and their relationships. When spaces seem to allow only positivity when some people might have some negative thoughts on a ship, it really negates any conversations about it and even understanding sides of why someone may or may not ship something.
While understandable, there is a double standard between being negative and positive about ships (or portrayal of characters). If you feel overwhelmingly negative about something, "you need to go touch grass". If you feel overwhelmingly positive about something, "go at it queen". I would personally argue we all need to touch grass.
It is NOT okay to harass others. It is NOT okay to let your emotions dictate that you should attack somebody for LIKING a certain ship or DISLIKING a certain ship. Your emotions DO NOT dictate how OTHERS should feel.
It is okay to be negative about a character or ship as much as it's okay to be positive about them. Neither side of being for or against a ship is more virtuous than the others. It's okay to have some fucking emotions regardless if their positive or not, because it means you CARE about the media and the characters in it.
No, you should not revolve your whole online experience in negativity. Find positive in things you DO enjoy. But to brush off people who vehemently might dislike a character or ship as "losers with no lives" is to disregard a person's emotions on something. And if you do wanna think that mindset, congrats, people who obsessively love a character or ship are just the same by your logic. Obsession is obsession, regardless if it's negative or positive.
TL;DR, If it's okay to be overwhelmingly positive in liking something like a ship or character, it should be just as okay to be negative in disliking something like a ship or character. Just as long as it's not the ONLY thing you focus on and no one is actively being bullied, attacked, or harassed about it. And of course, either way, positive or negative, it is all fiction, and a real person should not be attacked or harassed for it. And if you don't want to indulge in negativity you might have, 100% valid. Both sides always need to take a step back into reality.
#Celtrist#cel rambles#Hopefully my point gets across#Share your random grievances over a ship character or headcanon you don't like#Just don't target or attack anybody#There's a difference between healthy negativity as there is toxic negativity#Just as there is between healthy positivity and toxic positivity#Ship wars are always going to be prevalent unfortunately#But hopefully this can give an idea to just civil discussions about stuff rather than plain attacking#shipping discussion#shipping#shipping discourse#Just tagging ships I either dislike or like#Or just plain popular ships#Which is which? You figure it out#radioapple#radiodust#saiouma#kaeluc#radiobelle#radiostatic#narumitsu#soukoku#shuake#sonamy#sonadow#shadamy#silvaze#espilver#tododeku
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not now honey, mommy’s arguing with strangers on reddit about the themes of a 2hr indie horror game
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Ive finally... Found another noirfilm/Crimeshow shipper....
LETS GOOOOO LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO OH MY HOODD I NEED MORE NOIRFILM MOOTS.... SNIFFLES.... ITS HARD OUT HERE!!!
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hi!! woah it's been a long time 😭 i dont think anyone remembers me ashhdjfjg it's been awhile since i last opened tumblr, but long story short, i deleted tumblr for storage last year only to realise i forgot the login.. only last week did i got back in and i just got a notif today saying its this account's one year!
happy birthday, vinecradle 🫶🏻 i may have something planned out for you guys but let's see :p
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What if I wrote a Jonmartin AU fic for tomorrow's Jonmartinweek prompt and turned it into a mini series with chapters?
What then???
#cel rambles#i have a book to write and instead im twirling my hair and kicking my feet over these two#tma#the magnus archives#jonathan sims#jon and martin#martin blackwood
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post before i temporarily lose consciousness
#pokemon#anonslash’s once in a blue moon outings#pokemon oc#dusknoir#i gave up on the first one#I don't rly like the second one tbh#Cel shading isnt my thing#still fun doing the lineart tho#art#my art#am I tagging right#sorry for the inconsistencies#I am in dire need of rest#might ramble on his lore when I wake up#deoends if I wake up on the right side of the bed
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Controversial (and grammatically wrong allegedly) opinion but the fact that we can’t anymore add a “d” before a vowel if it isn’t the same vowel bothers me to hell. Like you can’t convince me that “a essere” sounds better than “ad essere”. You can’t, I’m sorry.
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asking about your experience of games in the northeast! best worst most mid pls! or your favorite bits of each? whatever you want to talk about ✨🙏✨
ahhh thank you for this (totally unprompted by me) question!! ill do like a ranking so if people want um. hot takes or whatever they can just read that but ill do like a breakdown below a cut! the only arena i've not attended a game in thats in the northeast is ppg in pittsburgh. and capital one arena if you count dc!
also clarification as much as i'd like to be unbiased ummm.. unforch not gonna happen. i tried to an Extent but. anyways
Boston*
Philly
Buffalo**
New Jersey**
NYC
Long Island* * - been to multiple games here ** - separated for ranking sake but more or less equal!
OKAY... so like multiple factors to consider for my opinion... i tried not to include the stars performance specifically and if i considered The Game(s) it was more based on how entertaining the home team was or how the crowd was reacting? not on how the stars played. AND ALSO... every worker at every arena was VERY nice and accommodating and thus have had 0 impact on individual arena rankings. ill just do an arena by arena breakdown!
ALSO quick warmups wrap up at the end where i talk abt each teams policy and how much it did or did not piss me off LOLL
BOSTON - i saw the stars there last season and this season (and i also saw their winter classic game but that was in fenway so. i feel it doesnt count lol)! this one gets a big big boost from me just from being. very accessible to me personally. like ive never had to drive there so thats like +10000 because the train is sooo easy. i love u mbta.
BUT i will also say. boston fans get rep for being mean or rude or assholes or Whatever u wanna say but ive never had issue, ive had good silly banter and chats with the oldest of boston men (probs helped by me being from the area but regardless), have gotten on the train in my away team jerseys with no issue, etc.
the crowd just has great energy!!! new england loves their sports yes whatever but everyone was In It from the lower bowl to the deepest of the 300s! i saw a game where the bruins won after 5000 rounds of shootout and a game that the stars won Firmly and never did the energy from the home crowd feel Awful (yes theres people leaving early in big losses but thats like. different i feel like). like people were reacting chatting shouting etc the whole time! i love boston idk. also u get a free poster i think at every game?? at least i have! which is cool!
PHILLY - i will preface with obviously the good vibes are fresh but like. wells fargo is really fucking cool!!!! i liked walking around (even tho i did not get to do as much as i wanted before the game . on account of. i was almost late) there seemed like a lot of shit to do and a lot of cool eatery etc etc. their board is Strange shaped... concave... but she grew on me and i think i like it! and the seats are all rlly nice
also the crowd definitely did not necessarily have like um. the most positive of Vibes. Considering... but they were lively! there was chants there was yelling there was cheering and jeering etc etc. it was fun!! it felt like a hockey game! (it will be clear why i keep mentioning this later)
and as far as transport. traffic was a nightmare mostly bc of it being a big city during rush hour. BUT parking was suuuuper easy! and pretty cheap! i believe i paid abt $20? and u just self parked wherever in that area. (i think unless u had fancy reserved parking but um. i didnt find that worth it. but obvs i didnt do that so i guess who am i). it was a really easy in and out tbh. overall i had a ton of fun with the only Bumps being my own errors from confusion lol!
BUFFALO - buffalo and jersey had very different things that got them to roughly the same ranking. one of the biggest ups for buffalo from me. if we're being so honest. is that parking was SUPER cheap!!! not kidding!!!! it was really easy and really cheap lololol
i dont think there was anything Exceptional abt buffalo (other than the game score. obviously). i will say. and i could be misremembering! but i think they were missing something Vital from the main big board and i wanna say it was the time? like they only had that on the sides. which was strange. but also hearing they may have a new jumbotron so liiike. maybe my opinion there doesnt matter. but overall it was fun! the crowd was like pretty normal. pretty standard hockey crowd energy! but the seats were fine and the price was really good for where i sat!
NEW JERSEY - again, nothing really separating this from buffalo! i will say the arena as a whole is a little nicer maybe. i didnt park at the arena so idk abt pricing there but the garage i parked at maybe a 5 min walk away was well priced!
its a little pricey Overall (at least now bc their team is doing well lol) but i was able to snag good seats ! nothing special but they had a lot of leg room etc. good hockey energy in the arena i'd say, clear enthusiasm and Vibes. dudes behind us were annoying and did not know puck but i wont hold this against all fans
NYC - now.... i know this will be controversial.... but im glad i went once! and now i will probably Never return to msg. i apologize for any msg lovers bc this unforch will be quite a bit of complaining... sorry. TO PREFACE WITH POSITIVITY... the arena design is really nice! like the lights are cool and the little videos are rlly sick and fun etc! but um.
first of all the entering to the seats is ANNOYING. its 50000 escalators up and im unsure Why even... thats not even talking abt the pain to get in. you have to scan your tickets on a turnstile thing as opposed to like a human scanning your ticket and it actually in fact makes the process LONGER and also is way more inaccessible imo bc the turnstiles arent Wide dude.
for reference i was up in the 200s when i normally try to snag lower bowl when possible. so this COULD just be a universal issue im not familiar with but. along with the no leg room there werent any? cup holders??? which is Annoying on its own but EXTRA annoying when you're at a sports game so they have to take the bottle caps off of things so youre stuck??? holding your water (or other bev)??? on account of the lack of cupholder or leg room???
also the arena was DEAD. i understand the rags aren't doing hot this season but ive also visited other teams that werent doing good and at the very least they booed! the only time anyone made Noise was to cheer for THEIR goal. there was none of that crowd wide gasping or groaning or clapping for a save. it was BIZARRE and im wondering how much of it was because the lower bowl was Dudes in Suits or Dude in Suit Adjacent aka the bourgeoisie... BUT I DIGRESS
i will say to compliment sandwich it. its SUPER helpful that its right next to penn station and really great they allow large bag sizes to come in. i loved being able to bring in my tote and not worry abt it. overall the experience was too mid-bad for me to consider spending all that money again
LONG ISLAND - this one is sooo much based off the way their team and fans are so. sorry. i will say the arena is REALLY nice and tickets themselves dont cost a ton! its a beautiful place with really nice and classic hockey fans and energy yk.
now. i dont think i need to elaborate that the isles are not The Most Fun team to watch... i can only take so many 1-1 to ot games you know... they just arent the most exciting rn! but i try not to let that effect Too much!
now my two BIGGEST issues are that parking is WAYYY too expensive. like way too much. i even tried waiting closer to the event to get a cheap resale and that was still more than i paid anywhere else....... it was absurd i fear
but truly. and this does not reflect on fans on hockeyblr of course. but the fans are just RUDE. like i dont know why, ive gone to a stars win and a stars loss and no matter what theyre just bitchy to us???? shouting rude shit right behind us, making weird faces at us sitting next to them, not making Normal Sports Game Convo if you try to initiate, honked at us in the garage, kept saying we had the ugliest jerseys in the league??? like not fun lighthearted sports jeering! just nasty stuff!! i dont know why!!!!!!!!! i met one (1) nice drunk woman who thought they were playing the sharks and that is the only positive experience ive had!
i went to the isles for my first ever stars game and then last year as well and im spoilers not going this year... i just cant do it there anymore lol. during the game the general vibe is fine! but i cant with all the rest of the shit its just kinda not fun
WARMUPS RUNDOWN FOR THOSE WHO CARE - boston, philly, buffalo, and new jersey get their flowers for having Normal warm up policy (you can get there whenever and stand wherever). the isles are really stupid where you can only stand in one (maybe two?) sections for warmups so it gets SUPER backed up around there. rags have a similar policy but its Worse, Actually because the section they make you stand in DOESNT GO DOWN TO THE GLASS?????? HALF OF THE SECTIONS DONT GO DOWN TO THE GLASS????? strange!!! really strange.
OVERALL.... id happily return to boston, philly, nj, and buffalo if given the chance, dont think id go back down to the new york named teams unless it was for a very specific stars (ha) aligned reason.
I HOPE THAT WAS FUN AND INSIGHTFUL TO READ... I HAD A LOT OF THOUGHTS LOL
#and if u have any contrary opinions pls lmk! especially if its positivity @ my negativity!#BUT YES... sorry i wanted to ramble abt this SO BAD thank u marsh for giving me the chance to do so lol#cel phone
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I cannot. Stress enough just HOW MUCH I relate to this statement. I enjoy some Alastor ships (and heavily dislike some but thats sorta normal in fandoms), even if not my preferred type of relationship depictions. I also enjoy going the route of Alastor being someone not at all interested in romantic or sexual relations. But I ENJOY both. And I think shipping Alastor has it's place in fanon.
However, like OP said, there's SO MANY PEOPLE. Who make ship art of Alastor and just toss the aroace identity out the window. And yeah, it does not feel great. A character's worth in fandom is how shippable are they for the most part, and a character having a canon orientation that directly GOES AGAINST THIS while also being the fan favorite is pretty hard to swallow for some. Personally, it's never the shipping itself that bothers me as much as the people who do the shipping with Alastor.
And I mean, for the most part I only have vibes to go off of, but those vibes are typically not great I'll say. Which again, that's just my personal view of it and it's not like it's only people who aren't aroace that ship Alastor that I have this problem with (but the person I'm thinking about does a ship I really don't like and is going by their own relationships as an aroace person. So not sure how much that counts y'know?)
It's more that a character just is never allowed to not be interested in romance or even sex. A character can not be not interested in being intimate. Again, it's not the shipping itself, and it's not the shippers by themselves. It's that the fandom consistently ignores and honestly barely celebrates Alastor’s aroace identity, more the aro part than the ace part.
And while true, somethings people say really sound like they're trying to make it seem like "well it's totally possible for him to get with someone because it's a spectrum". Again, true, but it feels like it's uses as a less genuine reason sometimes and more like an excuse or desperation for the possibility of it being canon (this isn't everyone of course, it's just how it reads sometimes)
And the aro part, yeah it's a bit dubious as I don't think it was ever explicitly stated and if it was it was in past streams. But by the same token, Husk being pan was confirmed in old streams too and there's no question from anyone that that's his canon orientation. In addition, there's still a lot of things that do imply Alastor's romantic orientation being aromantic (like Rosie's comment about Charlie reads as her suggesting their dating not having sex. And referring to Alastor as "ace" might've been using the term as a catch all of aroace as it's often used that way). Again, it's not wrong, but people will more often remind others that Alastor was not confirmed as aro but no correction on him not being confirmed as homoromantic. Or at the least, they just really don't want to take the implications into account. Which again, fair, it's all only implied, but it certainly reads as "deer can't be aro". (As a side note, I cannot stress enough that there's nothing wrong with shipping Al but personally, the fact that one of the most popular ships involves an aroace character and it's rarely in a qpr light [which not a fan of referring a qpr as a ship but I digress and is a personal take], it kinda lowkey feels like if the most popular ship in the fandom was a canonically gay character in a straight relationship if you get what I mean there. Like if a ship like Angel/Vaggie was in the top three ships. There's nothing wrong with it, there is just a level of "hmmm" there for me. But hey, maybe I would change my tune if an actual alastor ship I liked got popular lol)
TL;DR I think shipping Alastor has it's place in fanon and is something I enjoy along with Alastor being purely aroace with no room for romance. There's just a lot of shippers who aren't aroace who seems to throw away or really wanna ignore this aspect of Alastor’s character that's really disheartening. Both aspects of his aroace identity is pushed aside, put into question of authenticity, and is rarely acknowledged or celebrated in the fandom. Hopefully you get what I mean, suck at explaining myself sometimes. And I don't know if OP necessarily agrees with me, but I certainly understand being someone who identifies as aroace (at least currently) and enjoy shipping Alastor while also feeling icky when I see other people ship him sometimes. And we obviously don't need shippers making daily announcements saying "hey I think aroace Al is fin" obviously. People are gonna focus on what they're having fun with the most and that's fair. But an occasional acknowledgment to the identity or a little more love give to aroace Alastor week or whatever it's called in the same level or at least closer level to the ship weeks he has would be nice. Not necessary obviously, and I'm content with the thought that at least the ships aren't really ever gonna be canon (hopefully), but it would be nice.
No hate to anyone, can't stress that enough. I ship Alastor too, it's not like I don't. It just reads like most people would really prefer him not to be aroace so ships can happen and they use workarounds to justify it possibly happening in canon. If you're aroace and uncomfortable with Al ships, you're valid. And if you aren't aroace and still enjoy shipping Alastor too, I'm not gonna say you're invalid for having fun. It's just as OP said, sometimes it feels icky when people toss the aroace identity out the window.
As an aroace person, it's so hard being a Hazbin hotel fan who loves most of the Alastor ships, because on the one hand, people are constantly complaining about how you can't ship him with anyone because he's aroace, which is just untrue, especially since Viv herself said to we can ship whatever we want, let me enjoy my representation how I want, but on the other hand most of the people who make content for Alastor ships aren't aroace and just completely ignore that part of his identity when making ship content, and it is so icky. It's such a struggle, like I just want accurate aroace ship content without being belittled, is that too much to ask 😭😭
#cel rambles#radioapple#radiostatic#voxal#radiobelle#radiodust#radiosnake#radiorose#alastor the radio demon#hazbin alastor#hazbin hotel alastor#hazbin hotel#I also notice it happens with gay ships the most but I mean... thats not a surprise.#Gay ships kinda rule fandom shipping spaces#And it's not like they're allowed to get much rep in actual media#Most of the time. It's getting better.#rebloob#complicated topic that I have a lot of thoughts on#saw someone mention that its very easy for the bi woman to say “ship whoever you want together” which kinda fair#but I dunno. aroace is definitely an ignored identity and having it so the fans doesn’t have to respect it so they can ship isn’t stellar#but I mean... it's also fair for her to say that since its her characters and its not like the shipping is gonna change the canon (hopefull#Its just for fun and in theory isn’t hurting anyone#it's when you get into the double standards of people saying you shouldn't ship Angel or Vaggie in het ships#but then go and ship Alastor up the wazoo#And it can create a space for some where they might not feel welcomed with their orientation#like a character has no value if they don't want to smooch anyone#and you can imagine how that might carry to an aroace person's view of themselves#Fan works might not effect canon but they CAN effect people. its always important to be able to differentiate fiction from reality#but im rambling. again complicated subject that most wanna ignore.#I've been trying not to think about this stuff too much but saw this post and had to reblog
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This was a planned thing I had around the time I had this little rant (appreciate everyone who's bothered reading that thank you!)
Seeing as we have three canonically Asexual characters, I thought each of them having a different romantic orientation (and varying asexuality on the scale) would be fun and neat to show the variations to the orientations! But I was really stumped on Mammon since I was pretty set on Alastor and Octavia, but Mammon not being any form of aromantic didn't feel right, not terribly ooc, just definitely felt a bit more like "he's the leftovers" sort of thing when divvying up the romantic orientations. But lo and behold, the new episode of Helluva came out and helped solved that little quandrie. So here are my thoughts below on each!
Alastor (Loveless Aromantic) If you've seen my rant, you probably have a good idea why I labeled him as a "loveless aromantic" (meaning in this sense I'm talking about, he just wouldn't have any form of romantic affections or go into something like a QPR or the like). And I do genuinely think he would be! But I know there's A LOT of bias for Alastor NOT being aromantic (or at least open to some sort of relationship), and I will admit I might've been a bit biased here too! I've just seen a lot of love for only specific parts of the aro spectrum that "allows" Alastor to get with someone, and I wanted to give some love to the aro spectrum that gets little to no appreciation (plus I do just genuinely think he'd be this). If you don't agree, all is fair ദ്ദി(• ˕ •マ.ᐟ The point is, I realize I'm probably in the minority here. Plus, it's all a guessing game more or less until something is officially stated, which probably will never happen for any of these three.
Anyway, like I said, I just don't see Alastor really getting as close to anyone even as a QPR. At the VERY LEAST, not in a QPR that has a lot of romantic parts to it (kissing on the lips, cuddling, etc.). My man wouldn't have any interest in marriage or anything romantic, he's very happy on his own and probably gossips about OTHER people's love lives. Then again, he seemed pretty close to cracking when he heard Charlie ranting about her own love life... With that said, I do think he DOES like the company of others, he's VERY social after all. But actually, getting intimate with someone? Mmm, that doesn't feel right for him to me. A kiss on the cheek or PERHAPS a cuddle here and there at most, but nothing like bathing with someone or kissing with tongue. He's also a man of the roaring twenties, so you KNOW how he thinks about intimacies that might have no romantic/sexual connotations by themselves (like bathing with someone) are romantic on their own just because being that close to someone was seen that way in his time. Plus again, I just don't think he'd be interested in that stuff as is (potentially he could be both touch-starved and touch-aversed. And oh boy, wouldn't that be a conundrum!) On one hand, I like and can see Alastor being sex-repulsed, on the other I can also see him just feeling nothing towards it. Considering Angel's "advances" in both the first episode and the pilot, he does have a bit of a strong reaction towards sex, but nothing crazy either. I can see him being lukewarm to the subject (so he could read a book or read a script out loud with sex in it), but he could be repulsed when it actually INVOLVES HIM. I can definitely see him somewhat annoyed with the subject for how everywhere it is though.
Octavia (QPR Aromantic) It's a little hard to pinpoint, but I can personally see Octavia getting into a close QPR sooner than Alastor, but maaayybe only be a hair. Octavia could possibly get into a platonic relationship with someone that would have remnants of seeming romantic. I do think she's probably the most sex-repulsed of the three, if in part because of her father's inclinations that he doesn't seem to hide even when she's around. Honestly, I feel like we still haven't seen enough of her to get a good grasp on this aspect of her character in if she would be interested in getting as close as to a QPR with someone. But I'd certainly like to think so, because damn does our girl need it. Her falling into some sort of relationship would probably be hard seeing as how her parents' relationship was so awful. So she could be hesitant about doing something like that.
Mammon He was the big toughy! And while his advances on Leviathan might have been meant in a more platonic way or just for show to go against Ozzy's and Bee's romantic relations, I'm going with what's there! So Mammon seems like he could be straight or bi/pan. But I don't have a hard grasp on which so I'm tossing that in the air. I don't think he'd be sex-repulsed just because of how "sex makes money". Like, there's no question that sex appeal is a big part of business even if something isn't even that sexual. So while I think he's not largely interested in doing anything sexual, I can see him being okay or even lukewarm to the subject, maybe just not getting the appeal entirely. Maaaayybe he's sex-favorable? Of the three I would imagine he would be the most likely to be sex-favorable, but I dunno.
I like the idea of Octavia being the only one aware as to what her orientations are. Alastor is... well he's Alastor, and Mammon doesn't seem like he'd be too interested in the details of things. Just that "there's straight, gay, and the between area".
#Celtrist#cel rambles#cel doodles#fanart#hazbin hotel#helluva boss#hellaverse#hazbin hotel fanart#hazbin fanart#helluva fanart#helluva boss fanart#hellaverse fanart#hazbin hotel alastor#hazbin alastor#alastor the radio demon#octavia goetia#helluva boss octavia#helluva octavia#helluva boss mammon#helluva mammon
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perhaps the most devastating thing about the met gala is when you see a celeb in an outfit that would be absolutely SERVING at any other event, but because they’re at the met gala they’re being severely out-served because, well, it’s the met gala and some of these people do NOT come to play so some of these dresses that i would normally think to be so pretty will just forever look so meh to me because they were photographed next to the likes of people like zendaya who have never failed to slay a met gala look in their lives
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Rvery day i sob. That there is no interaction between vee anr rodger
I'LL MAKE IT MYSELF IF I HAVE TO. FUCK THIS SHIT
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Something important to add is that if you AREN'T comfortable with this portrayal of Alastor or anything like that, or think it's "erasure" or the like, you're feelings are VALID for that, especially if you're in the aroace community and get bummed seeing ship art of your favorite aroace character. BUT, you do NOT need to harass anyone for how they might depict and aroace character in a romantic light (QPR or not).
Can fandoms have issues dealing with an aroace character? Yes, and that can be chalked up to how heavy shipping/romance is within fandom culture. But does what a fandom does with an already established aroace character dictate their canon authenticity? No! Canon will not change because someone made fanart of an aroace character in a romantic relationship, same how canon wouldn't change depicting a gay character in a straight relationship.
YES, there is arguably a "problem" so to speak with people completely disregarding some orientations but holding others as something unchangeable (hetero is a bit of an exception since most media in the past and still now are dominated by a less than diverse cast/weren't allowed to be diverse in gender or sex). YES, it can get a bit annoying to see the double standards of people say placing Alastor in a blatantly romantic/sexual relationship when they're also of the "shouldn't ship Angel or Vaggie in a straight relationship because they're gay". YES, it CAN be tiring to constantly see a character canonically averse to sex (and hinted romance) in those type of relationships and not feel great about it for one reason or another.
This is all true but fandom is, for many, an escape and people often portray their own experiences to these "dolls" for funsies or self-exploration. How you feel about how people handle this isn't invalid and you should not be demonized for thinking Alastor shouldn't be shipped in anyway. However, just as people shouldn't cram down their ship with Alastor down your throat, YOU should not cram down that "he can't" be in a relationship down others. I think it's fair to bring it up in a civil way or if the topic is brought up, but if someone is minding their own business doing ship art of an aroace character that you strongly oppose of, just move on. Block the tags, that's what they're there for (personally think it would be helpful to have separate tags for QPR like using "+" instead of "/" or a whole new ship name so it doesn't get mixed with the flat out romantic stuff, but I digress).
And kind of like the response to the question essentially says, QPR is a very unboxed sort of relationship that will have different boundaries between different groups (some are all good with smooching in a QPR relationship, others aren't. Both are valid for this type of relationship.) So while yes, some aspects might get more romantic than comfortable with (for me personally), it doesn't always mean the relationship itself is romantic and shouldn't be disregarded as such. (if you're gonna disregard it, at least just do it in private rather than to the person).
TLDR; Don't like it? AVOID IT! It can be hard with how suffocating romance/ship stuff is in fandoms, but it's not anyone's duty to cater to YOUR dashboard. It can be a bummer to feel like people ignore the aroace identity to get some form of shipping in, and it's fair to feel that way. But it's not fair for you to dictate how they interact with their favorite media as much as it isn't fair for them to dictate how you interact with it.
Do you think there's a right and/or wrong way to handle QPR? I know it's a tricky relationship, but it feels like most/some people kind of just slap the label onto a ship while depicting the ship as just romantic/having no difference with a romantic relationship. (this is why I was a little surprised when you said you do radioapple qpr when it reads a lot more like normal romance). Not meant as an attack or anything on anyone, just genuinely curious more than anything. Again, tricky relationship
So Imma put this link to info at the top of this post: https://taaap.org/2022/07/16/qprs-part-one/
Alright, so please take what I say with a grain of salt, because that's exactly what it is. One small bit of perspective in a mass of many people who experience QPRs in their life and/or are on an aro/ace spectrum. I also have NO QUALIFICATIONS on gender/sexuality theory, so my opinions are shaped by what I've learned and experienced personally. While people may identify with the same term, we are all still individuals with our own experiences. Words can help describe a phenomenon, but it doesn't make everyone who identifies with the word into a monolith.
So I've stated a few times that I navigate shipping Alastor similar to my own experiences as an aroace person. (I guess I'm sharing about myself with this post, but I think that can be helpful to just spreading awareness of an "alternative lifestyle"). So I'm romance-repulsed and sex-repulsed LOL but I'm also "positive" about those things. Like I view romance and sex as lovely, fun experiences people can have, but I've never been into it personally. It's fun for me to consume media about romance/sex, but yknow, it's also fun for me to consume media about violence or isolation. Doesn't mean I want to experience or engage in any of those things lol.
Anyway, I'm a huge people person and I love to party and yknow it seems most people are really wanting to fall in love or fuck or whatever pretty much all the time, but especially at parties hahaha. Normally, I'm pretty touch-averse, but I love dancing so much and it's a blast to dance with a partner (salsa especially!! i don't care for grinding for probably obvious reasons). And to connect the two previous sentences, people (whatever gender they are) would be very kissy-touchy on the dancefloor. Which i honestly dont really give a fuck about hahaha. I don't really get anything out of kissing but I also don't mind it. I just like to dance. It's all a pretty superficial--but still genuinely fun--experience for me.
When it comes to my deeper or more intimate connections, I have had friendships that have felt SO on the line of what was viewed as a romantic relationship. They were exceptional friends and we connected on a level that was deep and true, but it wasn't romantic. Sometimes we'd slow dance, sometimes we kissed, and it rocked. But it wasn't more than that, it was all that it needed to be. I didn't want more and neither did they (except one situation and so we had to stop being friends lol whoops). From the outside, people would even refer to us as partners in a half joking way, but we really were just friends. And I love those friends!! And a huge part of what made those relationships (which at the time were described as 'situationships' because we didn't know any of these terms haha) was their convenience. We either lived in the same building, worked together, or were neighbors LOL. I'm still friends with those absolutely lovely folks, but we don't live around each other, so our QPR just appears a lot more like any ole regular friendship. But it's not like there was a feeling that we transitioned into something different than before. It twas what it twas! (Had to take a pause while I was typing to reminisce fondly for a second, okay back to hazbin hahaha)
SO, whenever someone asks or it comes up, MOST OF THE TIME I do ship alastor through an aroace lens and experience with QPRs (specifically, MINEE because they were fun and I've never felt like doing this before I met a character like Al). And my XP is: "this isn't gonna be a partnership and we ain't fucking" LMFAO. so yeah!
When it comes to using a queer term like QPR, I just hope folks are considerate in their writing, but I also am inclined to just believe them if they say that's their intention because QPRs can look very different. Again, aroace and ace folks are not a monolith. The terms help to describe a human's experience. I'm inclined to think people are writing in good faith.
And all this being said, I want to just emphasize that I really don't think it's necessary to consider any of this shit if you want to ship a fictional character. I understand wanting to be protective of a character who shares an identifier with you (I personally don't wanna see romance/sex with Al in canon). But shipping is a fun thing a fandom does that often does ignore canon. Tale as old as time. I don't think anyone needs to be beholden to canon when they're writing fanfiction or having fun. If we did, I would have like--5 artworks on this blog hahaha. These characters are like dollies, do whatever you want. It's cool if people don't like it and I think it's cool if people do. It's just not that serious. There are ships I'm not particularly into or dynamics that I am not enchanted by, but whatever. I can just scroll or close my eyes.
TLDR; shipping in fandom doesn't need to be taken seriously at ALL. It can just be fun way for someone to play with fictional characters they like. That being said, I think it's good practice to use queer terms thoughtfully.
#rebloob#cel rambles#I have a lot of mixed feelings on the subject as someone who's been jumping around being possibly aroace#while I don't think fandoms can deal (or have a hard time) with the idea of a character being disinterested in any form of romance or sex#I also don't think it's fair for anyone to police it#especially when it is admittedly a very difficult subject to navigate with QPRs and all that#I can't go two steps into an alastor tag without seeing ship art#but I'll take that and Alastor CANONICALLY being averse to romance and sex rather than the reverse#And I mean#I won't lie I like my boy averse to that stuff but there are some funny crackships with the man#There's a discussion that can be had if everyone would agree not to be so mean about their opinions/thoughts
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FAV TS SONGS FORM EACH ALBUM GO
debut: teardrops on my guitar
fearless: mr perfectly fine
speak now: haunted
red: begin again
1989: clean or i wish you would
reputation: dress
lover: the archer
folklore: my tears ricochet
evermore: closure
midnights: wcs or dear reader 🫶🏻
#cel rambles#im dear reader's number 1 defender#if we include unreleased then need + hits different would def be included
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Thinking about RQG 176/177 (Last Words) again
which i’m gonna note this: MAG 200 is also called Last Words. There’s probably nothing to that but i like it
but anyway, Zolf and Wilde in those episodes keep getting to me, Wilde, in all his bastard glory, i think genuinely does just want an *actual* proper relationship that isn’t professional, and as for Zolf, well. id go as far to say a rivals/enemies -> friends/ life partners pipeline
But they’re overdone, we all know zolf and wilde, what i’m here to talk about is HOWARD FUCKING CARTER! He genuinely just makes me so upset sometimes, especially in that episode, from what i can remember, it’s pretty clear that he was shut down as a kid, told to shut up when he’s talking ‘too much’ and even (i think) tells Azu to be quiet because he didn’t want her to be in trouble on his behalf????? he devastates me truly i’m in love with him and i think he deserves all the hugs in the world!!
and just. Cel. I don’t have enough words to describe how I feel about them, first off, one of the first just. casual *canonically* queer characters i’ve properly come across in media, not to mention i’m actually in love with lydia nicholas, Sasha was my whole life before she went </3
#rambles#i’m bullshitting heavily here but#rqg#rusty quill gaming spoilers#rqg 177#rqg 176#rqg oscar wilde#rqg howard carter#i kind of still hate alex for putting an npc called oscar wilde in it tbh#bc we’re going a oscar wilde book next year in college#and all i’m gonna be thinking abt is fucking rqg#anyway guys#listen to rqg plsplspls#rusty quill gaming#my beloved#sasha rackett#cel sidebottom#lydia nicholas#sorry to all my moots who followed me for cod shit#um. listen to rqg? :D#rusty quill#tma#the magnus archives
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Cel Sidebottom is my AuDHD icon.
Cel Sidebottom please know that I will both die for you and kill for you
#rusty quill gaming#rqg#rqg spoilers#kinda#cel sidebottom#lydia nicholas#cel sidebottom is an absolute fucking icon#id love to be their lil buddy#please cel this is an application#please hire me as an assistant#darcy does rambling
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