#endos fuck off youre ableist

[ghxst-system]

a quote from punks and about punks

"to be punk is to be kind"

endos are not kind. they are ableist and spread misinformation and actively harm real systems.

endos are not kind. they steal resources from real systems.

endos are not kind.

endos are not punk.

[ocpder]

Non-traumagenics stop acting oppressed for being a system/disabled when you are not disabled because you're not a system challenge

[beelzebubsbois]

"Wah wah!!! Get out of the identity tags!!!"

That's what tags are for, engagement and saying what your post/blog is about. How about you block me like you said people would. You're just giving me more reason to push my thoughts and opinions. Like move on and you wouldn't be my problem. But you're mine now, pretty boy, better get that ass ready for what I've got in store.

[curekirin]

— LESBOY+TURIGIRL GAYBIAN

Flags for gaybians who are both lesboys and turigirls! Flags in order are turilesboy gaybian, transfem turilesboy gaybian, and transmasc turilesboy gaybian.

[sovereignsystem]

People talk about introjects from "problematic" media & how they're valid (which they are) a lot, but I don't see as much love or understanding for introjects of problematic people from "nonproblematic" media.

I don't think people realize how difficult it is existing as one of those introjects. Acknowledging the exception of source-seperation, it's a lot of either self-hatred, or feeling like absolute garbage because there is an endless amount of hate directed toward someone who looks like you, speaks like you, or otherwise feels like you.

Sometimes, even those who swear by "introjects are not their source" seemingly forget their mantra and say heinous things about you. To you.

-🐴 (He/him)

[jabberwock-islanders]

me when i block a pro endo account that interacted with one of my posts and broke our dni as they usually do <3

yall are just proving my point lmao, you seriously dont know how to respect boundaries and it shows. you arent special. you arent gonna be an exception. youre backing up a community thats trying to demedicalize DID. you do realize that, right? that the same community youre trying to defend with studies that have been debunked before are the same people using "sysmed" to compare real systems to transmeds and by proxy compare a genuine mental disorder to being transgender, right? you do know that, dont you? i dont think you do.

-- zack 🔪

[d1rlin]

I ain't no pussy so ima say this; those who purposefully harm others i.e talk about their trauma like it's no big deal, spreading misinformation info, and all that tacky shit is horrible fuckers. Get on my ass abt that. But think about it clearly??

[tiredaf23]

Hot take, hot take:

If your disabled and downplay other disabilities just because you're more disabled than them, you're fucking entitled and ableist.

I'm sick of going through the cripple punk tags and it's just people who have larger disabilities shitting on people with more "generic" ones. Stop saying people with fibromyalgia are "privileged" when you have a spinal cord injury.

Is it shitty you're heavily disabled? Yes. And I'm sorry you have to go through that every day, and I genuinely hope you all can get through your day and stay safe, especially in such an ableist society.

I'm talking about the people who fight ableism with ableism because despite them being in the cripple punk tags, it's not fucking punk.

And another thing: if you take people who say ADHD is "paralyzing" (it'd 100% not, that's ADHD freeze and should still be taken seriously because it's a sign of burn out) and you cannot say that you've heard it in real life and you STILL generalize people with ADHD, I'm biting you.

Because what is people's problems with taking tiktoks and running with it? I can whole heartedly say I've came across real heavily disabled people, not online, who have cussed me out for saying I need a cane. I do. I just don't have one because doctors are refusing to see me.

You're not punk for generalizing other disabled people and using your own disabilities to cover it up.

"B-But this person with scoliosis was saying something about how they need a wheelchair and I'm right there and only people who can't walk at all need wheelchairs 🥺🥺🥺🥺"

Disrespectfully, shut up.

Tldr is: People can be ableist and disabled. Keep ableism out of punk tags.

I want to clarify because re-reading this it could potentially rub off the wrong way: I'm not talking all bout all disabled people. Just the people who are actively entitled and ableist. I have a few blogs in mind when making this post, but I won't mention them as they have a lot of supporters and I don't want to be harassed (one of the blogs has harassed other people online and encourages their fan base to by doing so).

I'm tagging in system tags as well, as I am a system and don't want endos on my post. I consider this a boundary, not a cross-tag

[antimisinfo]

as someone who has maladaptive daydreaming disorder this pisses me off so FUCKING BAD. im too shakey to type much less read this fully but oh my fucking god. oh my god. what the FUCK. how fucking DARE this person take MY DISORDER and twist it to conform to their DISGUSTING ABLEIST BELIEFS?? im reFUCKINGvolted

https://www.tumblr.com/alyssasmaddworld/741046067507904512/theres-this-level-of-dissociation-that-goes-hand?source=share

i- this post is a lot, but i'll try deconstruct each point here.. i'll be focusing on points that i can debate here / can disprove or try to disprove here because otherwise this will be a really long post,, longer than it already is. also i'll be referring to maladaptive daydreaming as MD for simplicity's sake. if i get any information on MD wrong please let me know as i do not have this disorder(?) nor do i know much about it outside of the research done for this post.

the source linked here does say that it is a dissociative disorder and it does say that it might not be caused purely by trauma " Although trauma may be one causal factor, we indicate several other etiological pathways to the development of MD. We discuss associations with related concepts and suggest directions for future research " so there isn't much for me to say here other than the part about plurality, but we'll go more into depth on that below.

this.. the source they used is pluralpedia.. which used the source of a tumblr blog.. so lets get into this. the first source also mentions maladaptive characters / MD characters but it also says that it is not like DID " We discuss and exemplify with clinical vignettes the shared phenomenological characteristics between MD and dissociative phenomena, such as double consciousness, vivid visual imagery, and the creation of internally narrated characters. MD characters can be experienced as somewhat independently-agentic, although unlike dissociative identity disorder (DID), they typically do not take control over the daydreamer’s behavior "

so lets look into MD characters, shall we? the only source i can find on MD characters ((other than the one they linked / tumblr posts)) consider them more of a form/type of daydreaming (experiencing the daydream as yourself or as a character, daydreaming about a character, ect). these characters are not at all similar to alters and the "closest" i found was the foreign character

" For those who heavily engage in maladaptive daydreaming, they often will begin to develop "The Foreign Character" type of maladaptive daydreaming. In this type, you daydream about a central character who you believe is yourself, but who is fundamentally different in almost all respects. " — maladaptivedaydreaming.org

however these are not at all similar to alters which are

"  two or more separate identities called “alters.” They control your behavior at various times. Each alter has its own personal history, traits, likes, and dislikes " — WebMD

the same source on foreign characters also states that " The reality is that for most people, they engage in these kinds of daydreams because they want to daydream about things entirely devoid from themselves and their real world experience. They don't want to daydream about themselves being a doctor or being better looking (to use the prior examples I used), but instead they want to dream about themselves being entirely different people so they can escape from who they really are. ". other than that source there is very little evidence on these characters being separate identities, even then it's important to keep in mind that it is not the same as having a split identity as it only appears during daydreams i would assume and would not be able to control you, how you think, how you behave, ect. ((which the first source literally said,, do endos even read their sources??)) i would also like to add that if these characters feel real and you believe all your daydreams to be real then it might actually be a delusion. there's nothing wrong with having delusions but it is also important to recognise that it's not real and that it does not at all compare to being a system.

the first source they used to claim that having MD is the same as being plural is a pro endo source, it defines being plural as " The most simplified definition of the term plural that includes all people who take the label is “someone who shares the same physical body with other individuals.”  Such a group is sometimes referred to as a system, though many plural groups use different terminology. " which,, again having daydreams are is not the same as having separate identities, so really this source means nothing.. and the second source is.. just insane really. its a study done on the experiences of those with multiple identities. they did two things, one was an online survey that had 200-300 results and then 6 interviews.. which is definitely not enough evidence, since they cannot know if people are lying on those online surveys and 6 people are not enough to make it a reliable source. but lets focus on the part they pointed out, which was:

" Empirical measurement of multiplicity is sparse. The first inventory published in the field was the Plural Self Scale (Altrocchi, 1999), which assesses the structure of the personality. High scores indicate that thoughts and feelings are different through time and situations. The other inventory to assess multiplicity was developed by Carter (2008) and consists of 20 items, such as “Does your handwriting change noticeably at different times?” or “Do you swing suddenly from one mood to another for no apparent reason?.” However, these scales measure the integrity of the self and rely on the assumption that there is a “you” or “I” who is able to self-reflect. Individuals who consider themselves multiple refer to themselves as a group of selves (“we”). Thus, questionnaires that assess the extent of self-integration fail to assess the experience of individuals who claim to have multiple selves who all have different thoughts, feelings, motivations, and levels of complexity. " which-- just isn't much of a criteria other than the questions, of which are "does your handwriting change at different times" and " do you swing from one mood to another with no apparent reason", but it literally says this fails to asses those who claim to be plural-- so i don't see what their point was here really. it just seems like they're saying words for the sake of saying words.

i don't think this person realises what closed culture is.. tulpulmacy is not a form of being plural nor should it be considered that, thoughtforms are usually used purely for meditation or for your spiritual journey, not for fun,, unlike "tupla systems" which are often not even Buddhists, which is the main issue. a closed practise, which is what tulpulmacy is, is a "practice in which you can only take part in their craft if you were specifically born into the practice, or went through an initiation process.". while i'm not 100% sure what exactly they mean with the last part there isn't much for me to say here other than the fact that tulpulmacy is not the same as being plural and we did have a former Buddhist actually talk to us about this here! and while it isn't exactly sourced i feel its still an important read.

i believe they're speaking about the word plural here,, which wasn't made by endos?? the word plural just refers to more then one. unless they mean traumagenic?? which then confuses me because their source doesn't really mention it--

culture is dynamic yes, but some cultures are closed and it's important to understand that-- just because the culture is shifting doesn't mean you can steal closed practises.

"endogenic sphere" makes me shiver but okay, lets talk about this too. there isn't a lot of research on MD, so i cannot say what the direct cause is. "Experts don’t know exactly why maladaptive daydreaming happens. However, they suspect it happens because maladaptive daydreaming can be a coping mechanism for problems like anxiety, depression and other mental health conditions."

no?? what?? as i said above, many times, having MD is not the same as having DID / being a system and also the image only refers to feeling disconnected from the body and sense of identity which is pretty common with dissociation and doesn't exactly prove anything related to endogenic systems..

i- ?? i mean as i said before we don't know what exactly causes MD but i don't believe people chose to do this?? not really??

" maladaptive daydreaming is often compulsive, which means a person feels like they need to do it. Because the need to daydream is similar to an addiction, daydreaming more often can make it a strong habit, so it’s very hard to stop doing it. That’s why seeking mental healthcare for it sooner rather than later is important. "

but all being said, its not a vaild form of plurality because its nothing like having separate identities?? sure when daydreaming you might identify as a different person but you're still you. your overall identity is intact and i'm pretty sure most people with MD do not think their daydreams are real, i believe that would be a delusion instead of a daydream-- and an important separation is these characters would only show up in daydreams i assume, while alters are always there, infact in DID you yourself is an alter but in MD one of you is a person and the other is a character created through daydreams,, which is not comparable to genuine parts / alters. ((also please do not harass the person who made the original post, our post / response is purely meant to educate and correct misinformation and we do not intend for people to go to the op's blog and send them things))

[rayssyscourse]

why are we making syscourse a punk thing: an unedited ramble

no seriously. maybe I'm missing something but why are we all fighting about whether punk is pro or anti endo? the answer is no, it's neither. I'm very punk irl, fairly involved in my local scene, have been for around two years, and I can assure you that punk and syscourse are just... really not related. i mean, I can understand both sides--people who think endos are being ableist can make the case of "I'm punk, so I'm anti ableism", likewise pro endos can make the case of "I'm punk, so I think everyone's identity is valid"--but there's no black and white answer because, simply put, this is just unrelated. again, I can see how, if you're punk, you might use the punk ethos to explain your viewpoint, but for the love of god, please stop taking the label "punk" and trying to twist it to make a completely unrelated argument?? also, the only "argument" this strategy seems to be making is that (pro)endos/anti endos 'arent punk', which is stupid. for one thing, it's not a crime to not be punk, and it's completely absurd to just assume everybody is/wants to be punk (the entire POINT is to go AGAINST the mainstream, not to become it). and second, this is the exact behavior of those punks who go around calling everyone else a poser just to jerk themselves off about how much "more punk" they are. and that's not very punk, now is it? also also: punk is more than just an abstract set of beliefs. those are obviously very important to punk, but just holding those values doesn't (necessarily) make you punk. go outside, hit up your local scene, jump in a mosh put or something, and you'll realize that punk is a community, punk is a people, far more than it is an abstract moral code. seriously, my life took a turn for the better when I got into actual punk music and culture, because it was the tight knit and supportive community that I needed at the time. nobody sat down and drilled me about my every little opinion on everything. we just play loud music and fuck around and curb stomp bigots. i can guarantee everyone fighting under this tag would be much better off actually engaging in the punk community instead of arbitrarily arguing about it online.

sorry to ramble folks! but this was driving me insane, so I'm only like half sorry

[orange-orchard-system]

Got a hate ask on my other blog (funnier-as-a-system) today. I'm not gonna respond to it directly, but I'm gonna go over it fully just as an example of why I don't take anti-endos or sysmeds seriously and find them to be just bullying assholes who don't know what they're talking about. Apologies for the rare discourse post, but I felt it would be useful to have a personal example I can point to if I ever get any more asks than I already have about why I block anti-endos and sysmeds and don't want them on my blogs.

[ID: A screenshot of an anonymous ask, which reads: ""Systems" aren't real. Please stop being ableist against people with DID and our struggles. Pretending to be one of us while simultaneously mocking us makes you look like a piece of shit. Also, DID isn't fucking funny, you're just cruel and ableist. Go see a psychiatrist, get your personality disorders and Munchausens taken care of, and stop pretending to have DID when you don't. We don't need you, our community is better off without teenagers faking DID as a meme. To be honest, I wish you and literally everyone like you were more likely to kill yourself as someone with a real mental illness, because you don't deserve to be alive if this is what you're doing with your life. You're just a delusional bully and neo-nazi" ./ end ID]

Starting from the top, apparently anyone with DID who's ever described themselves as a system is faking now. Nevermind that it's been a term in psychology and the community for decades now! All systems are fake!

I have DID. I've said as much many times. Not that I think this person would consider this a counterargument, but I feel it deserves restating considering a fair amount of my posts are specifically about my DID and managing the symptoms of it.

If I want to find humor in my own disorder, I'm going to. I'm not going to resign myself to misery and self-hate just to please some randos on the Internet. I crawled my way out of the pit of self-hate and am not just gonna jump in there again just to avoid a couple asks and assholes. And I'd make a point here about systems that don't come from trauma or aren't disordered, but what's the point of that when they think literally all systems are fake?

Ohoho! Disableism towards other mental disorders! Isn't the irony sweet?

Not to toot my own horn, but I just love the lack of awareness when it comes to "we don't need you." No, I guess you don't need me... but you'll be going without the work I've done both online and offline to teach people about dissociation and plurality. Not to mention the terms I've coined that make people feel seen, the experiences I've talked about that make people feel less alone, the building of spaces to let others talk about their own problems and experiences, and the general promotion I've done of plural representation in media. No, you don't need me, but I've been doing work to assist the DID and wider plural communities for years now. And what have you been doing? Sending hate asks to people with DID for being too happy?

I'm an adult. I've mentioned before that I go to university and have a job. Seems like even online, I can't escape the assumption that I'm a teenager, smh. Also, I'm much more worried about the teenagers you might be sending this to than any kind of unquantifiable harm a couple teenagers faking DID could do, considering how clearly you wish to do harm with your words. Especially considering the next few sentences...

Oh, so we're just moving onto blatant suicide baiting and admitting you want systems to die. Got it. Totally not a bigot, right.

Wait... "Real mental illnesses"? Didn't you just accuse me of having several earlier? Or do personality disorders and Munchausen Syndrome not count? (Also, do they think being suicidal is a requirement to be mentally ill? They know not all disorders or presentations of disorders involve suicidality, right?)

Well, you got the delusional part right (which, side note, do you think it's impossible for people to have both DID and psychosis? Big yikes even if no, but that's what these asks always seem to imply), but I think this post might be the closest anyone can call "bullying", considering I'm not giving you an opportunity to respond as I tear down your argument. But maybe the definition of peer abuse changed to *checks notes* running a blog talking about plurality in a positive manner since I last checked.

These people do know what a Neo-Nazi is, right? They know what a Nazi is? Because it feels like people just use it as a stand-in for "general asshole" when it means a specific sort of ideology and bigotry. Ironic that they'd be so pissed about "mockery" and treating serious topics "as a meme", but then they go and misuse a term for a very dangerous kind of ideology and person.

Alright, I think I got that out of my system. Please be careful out there, guys! It feels like the number of hate asks I've seen people get has been going up. I'm in a stable enough place to make a demonstration out of this, but don't push yourself to have a snappy comeback or write essays responding to these assholes if you don't think you're up for it. Hell, I rarely write things like this myself, I just chose this ask to respond to because it was such a clear example of how hypocritical and foolish this particular brand of assholes is that I couldn't pass up the opportunity to break it down.

[sysmedsaresexist]

this isnt at the mods who run the blog im just ranting. for clarification

im so tired of people who clearly dont know what delusions are calling endo systems delusions PLEASE LEARN WHAT PSYCHOSIS IS IM SHAKING YOU BY THTHE SHOULDERS PLEASE ACTUALLY LEARN WHAT A DELUSION IS PLEASE LEARN HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH DELUSIONS SOME OF YOU ARE SO MASK OFF WITH YOUR ABLEISM

please please please check your ableist biases. and yes you can have disabilities and be ableist society has oppressed diabled people for eons ableism is ingrained in all of us in some way

*Nods* I agree with you, anon. I often see anti-endos calling endogenic systems "delusional" in the same way that ableist singlets call CDD systems "delusional." It's to invalidate our experiences because, to them, delusions are false beliefs.

I hate this idea about delusions, though. There's tons of mounting evidence that delusions aren't random, false beliefs -- they're a person's attempt to explain confusing or overwhelming experiences. Here's an interesting excerpt from a book called Psychosis, Dissociation, and Trauma: Evolving Perspectives on Severe Psychopathology:

Surprise, surprise! Delusions may be related to trauma & dissociation. I don’t think the people slinging delusional at others really care, though. To them it’s just their “this person is faking” buzzword in the same way that non-survivors co-opted the word triggered to start calling us weak / over-reactive. Nice, ableism. Love that. /s

To dig into this a little deeper, let's talk about what a delusion is. According to the DSM-5:

"Delusions are fixed beliefs that are not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence. . . The distinction between a delusion and a strongly held idea is sometimes difficult to determine and depends in part on the degree of conviction with which the belief is held despite clear or reasonable contradictory evidence regarding its veracity. Assessing delusions in individuals from a variety of cultural backgrounds can be difficult. Some religious and supernatural beliefs (e.g., evil eye, causing illness through curses, influence of spirits) may be viewed as bizarre and possibly delusional in some cultural contexts but be generally accepted in others."

Notice how they say the belief is fixed, not false. The content of the belief doesn't matter that much. What matters is the behavior and distress that it brings. Someone with a delusion is fixated on the belief, it brings them distress/impairment, it won't change even they've seen lots of evidence that disproves it, and it's not a broadly accepted belief by their culture.

Plurality is its own culture, believe it or not, and this is academically recognized. Plurality existing without trauma is a widely accepted possibility here. Just because someone people don't think it's possible doesn't make it a delusion. It's just conflicting beliefs, not delusions. (That's not to say that it's impossible for someone to have delusions about being a system, or that systems can't have delusions related to their own plurality at all. But that's for those people and their therapists to work out, not us.)

I'm with you, anon. Calling people delusional for having a different belief not only waters down the actual distress and difficulties that having delusions brings, but it also turns the lived experiences of neurodivergent people into an insult. It's ableist. It's fucking ableist.

[aether-amalgam-system]

Look man, it’s time to stop being palatable for fakeclaimers and singlets who might think being a system is “weird”. It is weird! And that’s cool and ok! Being “weird” is honestly a stupid label (and a little ableist if we’re being honest here, sincerely a weird AKA autistic kid)

So

Shoutout to systems with so many fucking introjects. Like. So many. Holy shit. There are guys in there /pos

Shoutout to systems that have “themes” or are aesthetic with their profiles, blogs, simply plurals, or anything of that sort!

Shoutout to systems who are autistic/ADHD/other forms of neurodivergent! Man it’s rough out here /lh

Shoutout to systems who are queer! Whether it be your sexuality or gender identity, you’re rad as fuck and valid as fuck! (Special shoutout to systems who have trauma from growing up queer, I see you and love you /p)

Shoutout to systems, speaking of being queer, who use neopronouns or hoard MOGAI genders! Thats so cool, we have people like that too!

Shoutout to weird systems! Dont let people tell you what you can/can’t do, especially if they label it as “weird”! Fuck being “normal”! Be weird!

Endos fuck off this isn’t for you lmao

[the-crystal-femmes]

BEFORE YOU INTERACT / DO NOT INTERACT

// pt: before you interact / do not interact //

Disclaimer: our dni only usually applies to follows and direct interactions, however we do hold the right to block liberally :>

DNI:

// pt: dni //

Bigots (racists, queerphobes (includes aphobia!), antisemitists, intersexists, ableists, etc.), fatphobes, kink / nsfw blogs (we are hypersexual), anti endos and sysmeds, identity policers of ANY kind (as long as the identity isn't problematic), rqs and transIDs, proshippers, disordered abuse believers, anti-kin, pro/neu/complex contact harmful paraphilias, SH / ED centric blogs, anti self-dx with research, syscourse centered blogs and singlets who involve themselves in syscourse

Dni Explained (link)

Thin ice:

People who censor filter tags, those who refuse to translate typing quirks

Dnfi (do not follow if) your blog is centered around the omegaverse / misceverse, or a yandere blog. We're very uncomfortable with those types of things.

We are a median parasian traumagenic system. We believe we could have Partial Dissociative Identity Disorder however were still doing research. We don't support fakeclaimers and syscourse around here, our blog is endo safe and we don't believe singlets belong in syscourse. We're also fictive heavy, mainly Monster High and Steven Universe. We block anyone who uses anti endo tags on sight unless we're aware they aren't going to be a threat to us (mainly mutuals).

Some of us are in a polycule so please keep that in mind lol. I (Yellow Pearl) am mostly vocal about it

Our collective identities (non-alterhuman) are lesbian, and aromantic. Genders vary from sysmate to sysmate but the host (Yellow Pearl) is a nonbinary neogirl. Please don't call me a girl, I still consider that misgendering 👍

We are bodily intersex but only I (Yellow Pearl) and Pearl are label ourselves as such.

Our username is a joke on how most of us are Steven Universe fictionfolk as well as femme lesbians! We are NOT terfs, terfs can back the fuck off

We are bodily physically alterhuman, we are an anthropomorphic bat who's real form is hidden under a 'veil'.

We prefer not being mutuals with anyone who can't handle what we post about, or our mental stuff. We tend to a vent a lot, and we have an organization tag that can be filtered if it becomes too much. We also don't want to be mutuals with anyone who thinks they can't handle Ula.

If you have a problem with our behavior, we'd prefer you shoot us an ask or a DM. We'll get to ya when we can. We also ask you remain civil while doing so. (Edit: asks only as we made DMs a mutual only thing due to the fact people would DM us for stupid shit.)

Our co-host, Ula, is very uncomfortable with doubles of Draculaura. This is due to her narcissistic personality disorder. We understand that it may not be a choice, but we ask that others respect Ula's boundaries. Ula has exceptions but those are very rare. You're still free to interact but we request caution exercised around her.

Some of us are very controlling about how our fictionselves are portrayed, please keep that in mind! We are usually lax around other fictionfolk, though.

We are NOT anti kink. However one of our sysmates is hypersexual. We ask mutuals kindly to filter tag any kinky things for that reason.

Pearl and Ula don't tend to use tone tags, so please ask for clarification on their tone if it's needed! We're unsure why they don't use them.

The only ones who tend to sign off are Pearl and I (Yellow Pearl). If you need clarification on who's talking, please ask!

We have npd. We've done all the research we could and refuse to get professionally diagnosed. We're not in any financial state to get diagnosed and fear being discriminated against.

We try our best to stay out of discourse but we may end up posting about it at times. These things will be tagged with "#cw discourse" or "#tw discourse".

[ dividers by @/adornedwithlight ]

[ghxst-system]

Welcome - We're the Forest Collective

This post contains our Do Not Follow , Before You Follow and some extra info about us bellow the cut

Collective Terms + Identities:

Forest , Xi/They/Wolf/Howl , Transmasculine

Therian + Otherkin (Primarily Wolfkin + Wolf theriotype , but we also identify with ragdoll cats, bunnies, and several others)

Punk , Cripplepunk / Cpunk

Collectively we are situational mute (do NOT call us selective mute) and predominantly semiverbal

(we have several masked verbal alters who communicate for us verbally when necessary, but we are considered semiverbal)

We interchangeably use parts , headmates and alter language and mainly use We/Us when talking about us.

We are intersex.

Get blocked (DNI):

Antisemitic, homophobic / transphobic, TERFs/SWERFs, racist, ableist, fatphobic, zionists etc

Non-traumagen "systems" + supporters/neutrals (endo, willo, etc) OR culturally appropriate closed practices

Pro/neu contact paras, radqueers and transIDs fuck off

If you reduce introjects to their source / blacklist certain sourced introjects (wtf is wrong with you)

If you don't know how to actually tag and TW things you're getting blocked

If you don't follow your own DNI

Anti contradictory labels - you are literally so intersexist and transphobic.

If you cannot tell the difference between real values and FICTION

Before You Follow:

If you stigmatise cluster B PDs by promoting the myth of "narcissist abuse"

Perisex but use Intergender or think you can transition to be intersex

Do not use complexity labels on us

We are physically disabled and use mobility aids

We often lose the ability to speak or communicate coherently as well as the ability to advocate for ourselves

We will block you if you actively post / reblog about our triggers

We are bodily intersex and will not tolerate intersexism of any kind.

Posts / reblogs tagged with: "dir post 🧂" or "dir reblog 🧂" are directed at our syspartner

Anons and asks will be tagged with:

"🌳 forest.chats"

Random rambles unrelated to our usual posts will be tagged with:

"🌳forest rambles.exe"

We have survived RAMCOA , Programming and TBMC and post about it (tagged with appropriate warnings)

Our Disorders:

AuDHD , Dyslexia , Speech disorders (stutter, situational mute, semiverbal), Tourettes

Agoraphobia, C-PTSD, Polyfrag DID

Cluster B PDs: BPD, HPD, NPD

Cluster C PD: DPD

OCD, DPDR, Pica, ARFID, Anxiety + Depression

We are visually impaired with VSS (currently looking for more Dx that may explain our vision)

POTS, FND, Hypermobile EDS, Fibro

Our Collective Pronouns page:

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[sovereignsystem]

Warning: I am going to be talking slightly in depth about our system member Danny. This post will include talk about his interests/urges, which are not aligned with good morals, are centered around gore, blood, c*nnibalism, etc, and could be triggering to some people. You have been warned.

Okay. So I saw a post that lightly touched on how scary it is to have an alter who is genuinely violent/has little to no (traditional) moral code, and I instantly thought of Danny, who is one case of such an alter.

We dislike the term "evil alter" because we don't think it is helpful to label alters like that. That being said, Danny is extremely violent. The only people he would never hurt (and this is partially due to our work as a collective to keep him out of situations that would trigger him to do this) is our partner system and our parent.

As I said, we as a system have made an effort to keep him away from front about 90% of the time, because we're afraid that if he was allowed to front more often than that, then he would be a danger to people around him or even himself. Even when he is not fronting, he has a tendency to have grotesque and gruesome fantasies about killing, or otherwise hurting people.

It is genuinely distressing to have him in co-front/co-con at times because of these fantasies, and the urges that he brings with him.

Images of blood, body parts, and urges to drink blood or eat flesh are not uncommon to us because of him.

We're unsure why he formed, or what his role is, but what we are sure of, is that he is one example (of many many examples) of why this disorder isn't something you should wish for.

-🧟‍♂️ (He/him)