#lesbian lian harper

[punkeropercyjackson]

Yes to spread the Dickroy agenda but i think Lian should be Speedy ||| and grow up to be Nightwing

[sokoneedsagun]

A list of (DC) characters who aren’t explicitly sapphic but they are to me

- Cassie Sandsmark

- Cassandra Cain (specifically aroace lesbian)

- Donna Troy

- Dinah Lance

- Raven Roth (also best boy is genderfluid, look at him)

- Absolute Wally West

- Cissie King-Jones

- Lian Nguyen-Harper

- Stephanie Brown

- Barbara Gordon

- Zatanna Zatara

- Rose Wilson

- Selina Kyle (that is sort of cannon though)

Did I name most women from mainstream dc? Yes. Also if people start being homophobic I’m blocking you <3

[pablohunie1993]

why are they so lesbian

[dc-polls]

✨Glow Up & Downgrade🤢

WINNERS!!!

Through all the changes in costumes, backstory and personality we've got our winners. For better and for worse, these are the characters who beat out the rest. Congratulations and condolences!

Best Glow Up goes to:

Renee Montoya (The Question)!

Worst Downgrade goes to:

Roy Harper (Arsenal)!

- BUT WAIT -

Even though these were two individual tournaments, we MUST find out who is the ultimate winner!

*Worse meaning more devastating of a downgrade

Keep reading for their info

Renee Montoya (The Question)

"BTAS Renee: A supporting character who's just there to play Good Cop to Bullock's Bad Cop. Not the worst starting point of all time, but she has, generously, half a personality, and could be replaced in almost every appearance by an unnamed stock character. Post-Crisis Renee: Greg Rucka took one look at her, went ""oh that's a suicidal lesbian and her creators just didn't notice"", then spent thirteen years putting her through psychological torment to rebuild her into a fascinatingly messy hero who understands that it is impossible to be both a good person and a cop. It's one of the (if not THE) best long term character arcs in DC - so few writers get a chance to do a slow burn on this scale, and she just kept getting better as it went. 10/10 for both the results and the glow up process."

Roy Harper (Arsenal)

New 52 hit everyone hard but Roy 🤢 What happened to my hot single father with decades of character growth? Oh his daughter never existed and he's hanging out with Jason Todd for some reason

And another entry

Roy Harper's downgrade didn't come all at once, but when it started it went downhill fast. After the failure of "Green Arrow/Black Canary", the editors decided to take the Arrow Family in a new and terrible direction and Roy was most notably affected. After "JLA: Cry for Justice" ended with him losing his arm and most devastatingly his daughter Lian, the downgrade took a worse turn with "Rise of Arsenal" where he is abandoned by everyone after his relapse and is manipulated by Cheshire to join Deathstroke's team in the latter "Titans: Villains for Hire". Then the "New 52" happened and Roy's achievements, character development, and the many relationships he's had including his daughter were retconned away. What was once a seasoned hero who once led the Titans and the Outsiders, a devoted single father and mentor to younger heroes, and a man who wanted to do as much good as he could was now a clingy manchild whose only friend- Jason Todd who is deserving of his own nomination for Worst Downgrade- openly and frequently puts him down with little to no pushback. Yes, even Roy's addiction was changed from heroin to alcohol and it's no longer Dinah Lance who stayed up with him during his withdrawal but Killer Croc who begrudgingly became his AA sponsor. Even visually Roy was done dirty by the New 52. Post Crisis, he was often designed with a thick build, compared to Nightwing's more acrobatic build. New 52, he's thin and kind of greasy looking, especially when drawn by Kenneth Rocafort. It's not until "Infinite Frontier" that he was given more of a solid build. Roy has recovered some since then, especially reuniting with Lian and looking much better, but the 15 years of bad writing and bad editorial decisions has certainly done a number on his reputation that readers who first saw him in "Red Hood and the Outlaws" are thrown by how wildly different he was before the "New 52".

[jerichogender]

butch lesbian lian harper. this is the future

[pin-crusher2000]

if Chris were to drop dead who would you ship mari with

Hmmmmmmm

Straight: Robert long

Lesbian/Gay: Lian Harper or Irey West…..maybe leaning to Lian cause they are closer

[secondgenerationnerd]

Colin: you’re in a relationship Little miss anger issues and daughter of an angry robin? Yikes

Lesbian Irey: they actually don’t fight that much. The current debate is what order we want our last names in for our future kids

Lian: west Harper-Grayson sounds like a song

Mar’i: West Grayson-Harper sounds like a lullaby you would sing to a porkin!

Damian: Allah bless your fathers

[saharavalleyofdeath]

BatFam OC headcanons Pt. 2

Ramona Todd-Harper

Adopted daughter of Jason Todd and Roy Harper.

Full legal name is Ramona Luisa Todd-Harper

When she was 8 her mother and father gave her to Jason as Red Hood because they were going to die.

Jason was going to put her in an orphanage but realized they had a connection and decided to take her in.

They became very close and about 2 years later he was able to adopt her. (Lots of legal stuff had to happen first)

When Ramona was about 12 Jason and Roy got married.

Lian came into the picture about a year later.

Ramona and Lian are really close. She is also close with Roy. He even taught her archery.

When Ramona is around 15 she became a vigilante called Bluejay. She uses daggers and throwing knives and occasionally a bow and arrow.

She became a vigilante with Crash, her best friend.

Everyone called them the Arkham Duo.

Ramona is Pan romantic and Asexual.

Her girlfriend's name is Maria Prince.

Her friend group consists of: Crash Quinzel (the crazy gay friend), Maria Prince (the Amazonian Lesbian, and Ramona's girlfriend), Blaise Addams (the angry bisexual), and Kaity Davis (the confused/oblivious bisexual)

Eventually this friend group becomes the Arkham Five.

They keep it a secret from the Batfam/Harley and Ivy for about two years.

Ramona loves all of her uncles equally(not really)

Ramona is either the Mom Friend or the Chaotic Gremlin. There is no in between

She has a phobia of Hospitals and doctors

Slight autism

PTSD

Anxiety

She has a Cane Corso named Hawk

Crash Quinzel

Real name is Charles Stone Quinzel

He got his nickname because he was very uncoordinated and crash into everything

He is the adopted son of Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn

He was found on their doorstep

Poison Ivy is Mom

Harley Quinn is Mama/Ma

He has a Rooster named Cluck Norris and an African Helmeted Tortoise named Bodee

He is a Gay extrovert

His boyfriend is Blaise Addams who is a bisexual introvert

ADHD

PTSD

Claustrophobic

Loves pranks/pranking

Lobe piercings

Hates bullies and snitches

He is pretty mechanical and likes making things

SOFT BOI VIBES

Tall and skinny

He has blonde hair that has a faded dye job of pink and blue cotton candy coloring

Protective of his friends and family

He is of course Ramona's Best friend and they do everything together

Many people think they are dating.

They are not

His vigilante alias is Party Crasher

Maria Prince

Full name is Maria Hera Prince

Maria Prince is the adopted daughter of Diana Prince/Wonder Woman

She was taught in the Amazonian ways

Big lesbian

Hated Blaise at first

Ramona's girlfriend

Loves having cute aesthetic dates

Fear of disappointing her loved ones

Anxiety

PTSD

Has a Cane Toad named Dave

Very close with her mom

Lives in central city

Vigilante alias is Yellow Jacket

She is very cautious with who she trusts

When Diana found her it was like how baby Moses arrived in the Pharos home

She is one of the most loyal people you will ever meet

Blaise Addams

Blaise Mort Addams

Adopted son of Black Adam

Very traumatized

Was raised as a soldier. (Think Nebula from Marvel)

Was punished if he failed

He was originally supposed to get information on the Justice League but fell in love and started making friends

A bisexual disaster

Loves reading Edgar Allen Poe

Known as Red Shot

Absolutely terrified of bugs of any kind

Especially ladybugs

Loves his friends and is very protective

Likes going on dates to the park with Crash

Has a super complicated nighttime skincare routine.

He was made fun of when the others first found out

Has a maine coon named Snowball

Kaity Davis

Kaity Cassidy Davis

Major familial issues

Mostly daddy issues

Has really good grades

Loves her friends

Like a little bit of drama

Bisexual

Definitely doesn't have a crush on the cute 16 year old florist, Sage Belrose 🙂🥲

Loves a good rainy day read

Possibly a little autistic

Long reddish orange hair

Cottagecore girlie

Vigilante known as Indigo Dancer

Hates being underestimated

Major anxiety

Psycho brother

[givemewallywestorgivemedeath]

@lightspeed777 wins this round with some incredible guesses!

For everyone else here is the answer sheet!

1. Detective Chimp

He's a detective and a monkey and he works for the magic Justice League! (JLD)

2. Plastic Man

I had to get really creative with this one. Some eagle eyed guessers saw the red yellow and black on the German flag and connected it to Plastic Man's suit! The glasses are also part of his suit and the rope is to represent how flexible he is.

3. Clark Kent

Farm boy. Wears glasses. Loves his wife. It's Clark Kent!

4. Jefferson Pierce

Okay this one threw people off a bit and I completely understand why. I've been using the lightning bolt emoji for every speedster so I completely understand why people thought this must be a Flash character. But nope! The lightning was for his powers and name! The broken heart because he's divorced and the two kids because he's a single dad of two.

5. Kate Kane

She's a bat! She was in the army! She's a lesbian! We love her, we know her, it's Kate Kane!

6. Katana (Tatsu)

Okay to be completely honest I saw that I had a magic sword 🗡️ emoji and immediately went "KATANA". I'm pretty sure I could've just done three swords and people would've got it. But yeah, black belt cause she's a black belt and the red circle because she has one on her mask.

7. Courtney Whitmore

The last two are 'Star' and 'Girl'. The first one is a staff. It's a medical staff which threw people off a bit but that's the only staff emoji I have so it worked in a pinch

8. Jay Garrick

At this point my shorthand for speedsters is just 🏃 and ⚡lmao. The third emoji is an army medal because Jay fought in WW2

9. Cassandra Cain

Sign language. Ballet. And the final emoji was kinda meant to be Cass and Steph. I'm not sure if that came across.

10. Booster Gold (Michael)

By far the most difficult one! The robot was Skeets! The medal was blue and gold and had a star which is his symbol! And the two guys, one with dark hair and one blonde, was meant to be Ted and Michael hanging out.

11. Jessica Cruz

My shorthand for Green Lanterns (minus Alan) has been 🟩💍 lol. The green face makeup on the rockstar was my attempt to represent Jessica's green face makeup/mask thingy

12. Jesse Chambers

So the runner and lightning bolt denoted speedster. The 🔕 emoji was supposed to represent Jesse's.... let's say 'strained' relationship with her mother and how Jesse doesn't want to be Liberty Belle.

13. Lian Harper

She's baby! She's the heart of the arrow family! She named herself 'Cheshire Cat'!

14. Bruce Wayne

I didn't want this thing to be too easy. So I did Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne instead of Superman and Batman. I think the formal outfit, champagne and silly face got 'Brucie Wayne' across well enough

15. Nightwing (Chris Kent)

I would've accepted Chris' other names as well. I thought this one was pretty self explanatory. 'Night', feather for 'Wing' and a Superman looking guy to show I'm talking about the Kryptonian version.

16. Flamebird (Thara Ak-Var)

'Flame' 'Bird' plus another Superman looking guy to get the Kryptonian part across. I really wanted to make sure people didn't get Dick and Bette for these two.

17. Connor Hawke

The last two emojis were 'Green' and an arrow. The spade is an ace, aka Ace, aka Asexual, which is what Connor is.

18. Black Canary (Dinah Lance)

She's a singer. She's a bird. And she's ridiculously freaking strong, have you seen her muscles??? Holy shit. Respect to Dinah.

19. Vixen (Mari)

She's a model! She's a Vixen (female fox)! And she uses magic!

20. Bunker

He's my favorite queer Teen Titan that exclusively creates purple brick based constructs. Show me another queer Teen Titan that exclusively creates purple brick based constructs and I can guarantee you that Bunker would still come out on top

Okay this is my last one for the day because unfortunately I have to get some stuff done. I will score these ones tomorrow so think really hard about your answers!

Presenting: Describing DC characters using only three emojis part... whatever part we're on

1.🕵️🐒🪄

2.🕶️🪢🇩🇪

3.🧑‍🌾🤓👩‍❤️‍👨

4.⚡💔👨‍👧‍👦

5.🦇🪖👩‍❤️‍👩

6.🗡️🥋🔴

7.⚕️🌟💁🏼‍♀️

8.🏃⚡🎖️

9.🧏🏻🩰👯

10.🤖🏅🧑🏻‍🤝‍🧑🏼

11.👨‍🎤🟩💍

12.🏃🏼‍♀️🔕⚡

13.👶💘🐈‍⬛

14.🤵🥂😜

15.🌃🪶🦸

16.🔥🐦🦸

17.♠️🟩➡️

18.🎙️🐤💪

19.📸🦊🪄

20.🧱🟪🏳️‍🌈

Good luck!!!!

[florence-wayne-official]

I finished my pride dress, along with Mar’i and Lian’s!

Mine:

It’s black in normal light, but it’s made of reflective fabric and turns rainbow like the second picture.

Mar’i’s: ( @not-dick-grayson )

She wanted a unicorn, so I did unicorn

And Lian’s:

She said make it cool and not too girly, so this is the result.

I let both girls help sketch their dresses and pick the fabric and colors :)

[greyeyedmonster-18]

Book Club Tag Game

this was on my dash and i was going to participate in this regardless of being tagged because i am a Dork and sharing books is my love language, but thank you for the tag @signifiquint:

Here are the last books that I..

bought: for business: interpreting disability: a qualitative reader (no author, just a bunch of editors)

-for pleasure: Sure Thing by Jana Aston and HEARTSTOPPER GRAPHIC NOVELS!!!

borrowed: (i don't tend to borrow books because i massacre them while reading, look its an immersive experience but, the last one i did): Discovery of Witches by Deborah Harkness

was gifted: The Ballerina Project (it's technically a photography book, but has a forward by Isabella Boylston who is my number two favorite ballerina ever and it's stunning and gorgeous and it's on my coffee table and i am obsessed)

gave to someone: for business: Trauma Stewardship: an every day guide for caring for yourself while caring for others (i make all my babes who work with me read this, and then i make them talk about it with me; but if you're in a....human...services...yep, that's what we will go with, or even a CAREGIVER (parent, caregiver for grandparents, parents, etc...) you should read! it's so grounding!)

as a gift (birthday)- How Far You Have Come by Morgan Harper Nichols (if you're looking for a sweet little poetry, motivational read, this is it. MHP never misses)

for just like....life? because I thought they would like it?: Born for Love: Why Empathy is Essential and Endangered by Bruce Perry

started: im literally approximately two pages into Bittersweet: How Sorrow and Longing Can Make Us Whole by Susan Cain (she wrote Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World that Won't Stop Talking and if you haven't read that book, and you identify as introverted or LOVE ANYONE who is an introvert, i 1000000000% recommend it)

finished: for business- DisCrit: Disability Studies and Critical Race Theory in American Education

for YA reading for my kiddo: WE JUST READ THE OUTSIDERS TOGETHER AND MY HEART!!! Bebe book club!!!

for pleasure: Apples Never Fall by Liane Moriarty (but babes, if you like stories about family dynamics and siblings, this ones for you; same author who wrote Big Little Lies!!!)

gave five stars: oh, i don't...rate things? similar to fanfic. i will read almost anything. but im particular about what gets high endorsement so i just...don't. bother. honestly the last book i probably rated at five stars was: Me Before You by Jojo Moyes

didn't finish: Oh, started a book called Gideon The Ninth by Tamsyn Muir and I REALLY wanted to like it (because lesbian romance and dark!vibes) but it was all a bit too like...post-apocolyptic, not the vibe for me and I didn't finish it. but the beginning was solid! just not for me!

(did i take this too seriously and divide books into facets of my life? yep. but they all serve different purposes and what if you don't want to read for education!!! what if you just want to read for true love and fun!!! i have to appease all audiences).

open tag to whomever <3

[lusilly]

i feel like i post this every two weeks but reminder that this is roy harper and lian harper

[loisinherlane]

okay i can't find many posts that actually go into detail. so the little league originates from a fic which probably won't ever happen but the main cast is as such: jon (as superboy), damian (as batman for plot reasons*), lian harper (as fletcher), mar'i grayson (as nightstar), milagro reyes (as a green lantern), and rani carter (as booster gold at times).

jon is openly bi but everyone mistakes him for a great cishet ally! this is a running joke. he tries to flirt with a guy who asks him about damian. he tries to flirt with a girl? they ask him about one of the other girls on the team. and jon of course always helps out like ;-;

damian is initially batman after taking over for bruce who is retired or dead. idk. why damian? plot reasons that i haven't hammered out, but the ultimate ending for him is that he chooses not to be batman, and it does pass on to cass cain. he initially is the "leader" but realistically jon is behind him 90% of the time helping with personal relations.

lian and mar'i are dating. i think lian should have a long-haired butch thing going at times. mar'i gets to pick on damian more than anyone.

the milagro/rani agenda exists. so rani is a lesbian to me. she dresses a LOT like rip in her free time. she mostly works as the team's mechanic/base of operations coordinator, but she will put on a suitif she has to. she's very awkward. jon eventually develops a huge crush on her, and they date (mostly because milagro tells rani that jon is a huge catch and rani buys everything she says). there's a lot of tension because jon does not respect booster at all, and rani is very protective of him. they do eventually come to better terms, and while jon still doesn't necessarily respect booster as a hero, he can acknowledge that booster is a good parent to rani. rani of course learns she's a lesbian.

do i have a post about my "little league" team that i joke about? have i ever actually explained this?

[incorrectbatfam]

1) we stan 2) what do you headcanon other heroes as?

Previous post with the batfam here

And I’m putting this under the cut because it’s gonna get long

Wonder Woman and Aquaman are both pansexual trans deities.

Hal Jordan is a closeted gay who slowly came out with the help of a bisexual Barry Allen and sapphic Jessica Cruz. Kyle Rayner is similar—Donna Troy, a lesbian, helped him figure things out.

All Martians are genderfluid and demisexual.

Starfire is polysexual and nonbinary.

Roy, Oliver, and Dinah are all bi. Roy and Oliver are the certified Disaster Bis™ and Dinah has their brain cell. Emiko Queen is a lesbian, Mia Dearden is an HIV-positive demigirl, and Connor Hawke is an asexual homoromantic. Their arrows may be straight, but their family sure isn’t.

Ted Kord and Michael Carter are husbands.

All the Atoms are ace and they adopted Billy Batson as their Baby Ace™.

Zatanna is an out and proud lesbian with a side gig as a drag king. Likewise, Constantine is gay and is a drag queen at Z’s shows.

Like I said before, all Kryptonians are pan. I’m also gonna add that Conner Kent is a demiboy who gives gender roles the finger.

Kaldur’ahm, Eduardo Dorado Jr., Natasha Irons, and Traci 13 are all canonically gay/lesbian.

And don’t forget another canon gay: Miguel Barragan. 

Wally is bisexual and Artemis is demisexual. 

Later on, Jai West comes out as bi and Irey West as a chapstick lesbian.

Technically Harley and Ivy are villains/antiheroes, but it’s more than canon at this point that they are girlfriends living it up.

Bart Allen is 100% gay. And, as a future boy, he doesn’t understand gendered clothing and will wear whatever he feels like.

Beast Boy doesn’t ascribe to any labels, saying that “there’s plenty of my lovin’ to go around”. Meanwhile, Raven is demiromantic and is fine with either she/her or they/them pronouns.

Lucy Quinzel is gender-nonconforming.

Cyborg is a demi-guy who goes by he/him or they/them pronouns.

Jaime Reyes had a hard time coming to terms with his bisexuality because of his religious upbringing, but he learned to embrace his identity with a little help from his friends. Also, Khaji Da goes by literally any pronouns.

Katana is a homosexual aromantic.

The Gotham and Central City Rogues are the personification of “be gay, do crime”.

Virgil Hawkins is questioning because he accidentally developed a crush on Tim Drake.

Tye Longshadow also may or may not have a thing for Tim.

Both Jon Kent and Colin Wilkes have a crush on Damian Wayne. Neither made any effort to hide it and yet Damian still hasn’t noticed.

Maya Ducard uses “lesbian” as an umbrella term even though she experiences attraction to all kinds of people.

Throughout their teen years, Milagro Reyes had a hopeless crush on Lian Harper.

Cassie Sandsmark is ace.

[dc-polls]

"That Really Happened?!" DC Comics Tournament

Entry Index

The submission form is officially closed and all the entry posts are drafted, so over the next week expect eight individual posts (without polls) to go up per day. Feel free to add on any propaganda for others to find in reblogs or comments. When we start the tournament, polls will link out to these entry posts for reference. Edit: Find the bracket HERE!

The list:

Justice League Doom Patrol Inflation Art

Supergirl gets romanced by her horse

Superboy gets the personality of Hitler

Sentient Music Note Saves The Day With The Power of… Gay Love?

Superman's Sentient Excised Tumor with Daddy Issues

Wet and Wild

Superman marries Supergirl

What if Space Jam but instead of fun, it's with Batman and it's horribly depressing?

3 Year Old Lian Harper Breaks Vandal Savage's Thumb

Black Mask Wears…er….

Jimmy Olsen Fucked Talia al Ghul

Submission Witheld Due to Copywrite

Can the real pol manning please step up?

Domestic Abuse Ghost Possession

Batman's dad tries to ruin his life

Mal Duncan gets punched in the dick by an Angel

Islamophobia Run Amuck (Joker Becomes Iranian Ambassador)

Superboy Has Two Daddies

Batman gives a guy ALS

So I Married a Protean and No One Told Me

This angel centaur is a genderfluid lesbian

Black Manta kills Aquaman's biological son, Aquaman tries to kill his adopted son

Wally Mobius Manhattan West

Animal Man discovers the Fourth Wall

Superman and Big Barda do a porno

My Favorite Same-Sex Couple in DC Comics is Technically Bestiality and Metaphorically Incest

Snowflame, The Supervillain Powered by Cocaine

Halloween Costume… of Death!

Superboy-Prime Punches Time

Jason Todd: Tentacle Monster (Tentatodd)

"Not Exactly Romeo": Gorilla Mommy Issues and Other Tales

Subway Puritans

Catwoman and the Penguin Cure COVID And Run Away Together

Shvaughn/Sean

Zachary Zatara Has Dead Twins

Baseball Game to Save Two Worlds

Schrödinger's Pregnancy

Green Arrow hunts humans for sport

Sexual Assault Is A Superpower, Apparently

Bob Haney Doesn't Know Who Wonder Girl Was Supposed to Be

Kon-El Got Enslaved By Furries (And It Led To Pearl Harbor 2!)

The Flash Meets Fidel Castro

Metron and Swamp Thing go for a ride

Hallucinagenic Party Balloons (for your own good)

Rock Turns Man Gay

The Earth-Saving Alien Dick

Alien Invasion and the Time-Travelling Boomerang

Lex Luthor Stole 40 Cakes (And That's Terrible)

[dextervexter]

(steeples fingers) tell me about your boy roy.

ok ok ok ok OK i'm doing specifically Young Justice Roy so CONGRATS!!! You picked one boy but on all technicalities thats three in one LETS GOOOO

Will-

Sexuality Headcanon: extremely bisexual. often forget how bi he is

Gender Headcanon: for Will I kind of always figure a little non-binary but still goes by he/him. he just never really vibed with gender stuff.

A ship I have with said character: BIG sucker for Malcolm Merlyn/Will Harper. no they have never met in canon the ship was born from an inside joke and I got way too into it

A BROTP I have with said character: Kaldur and Will of course. Best friends. Will encouraged Kaldur to be a little more insane. Kaldur is the only one stopping Will from going ape on everyone. Their past adventures were usually either missions or getting kicked out of Panera (will's fault)

A NOTP I have with said character: Artemis/Will. that shit was 12 different flavors of gross and I can't believe the show even attempted it. I'm also not fond of Will/Jade but that's mainly because the show did not develop Jade enough to make me want to see them together.

A random headcanon: LOVE THIS MAN HAVE MANY

1) He struggled a lot with identity after discovering he was a clone. The way he saw it, he was a copy of the original Roy and therefore had no right to call any aspect of who Roy was his. He stopped referring to his parents as his, he stopped thinking of his childhood as his. he even had trouble looking at himself in the mirror because that wasn't truly his face. It was the face of someone he replaced. Roy of all people was the one to force him to accept that the memories and experiences they shared are just that: shared. Will didn't replace Roy knowingly. For such a long time he really thought he was Roy. He does get to call his past his, even if he never truly experienced it. He still has bad days where he physically can't bring himself to say that a memory is his, but he's worked hard and created a new life for himself. Maybe soon he'll be able to think about his past without that hurt attached to it.

2) Will has never raised his voice to Lian. He's an incredibly patient parent and as a result, Lian is very well behaved and incredibly well spoken, as Will taught her how to talk through her feelings instead of melt-down.

3) (incorporates events from Snowbirds Don't Fly) His relationship with Ollie was never the same. Will knows that Ollie tried very hard to support him after he found out he was a clone, but what it boiled down to was that Ollie reached a point where he decided Will should get over it. Will left after that and being on his own kick started his problems with addiction. Ollie criticized him for that too, going so far as to cut contact completely. They went years without talking. When Will retired and focused on being a father, Ollie tried to get in contact again but his inability to acknowledge he failed Will ultimately left them unable to carry on any relationship beyond civil acquaintances. Will still let's Ollie see Lian, he'd never deny him the role of grandparent, but he doesn't trust him the way he used to.

General Opinion over said character: He is my baby boy, my son, my boyfriend, my sweet cheese, the light of my life, i am like smeego and he is that gay little ring, he is my treasure, my FAV

Jim-

Sexuality Headcanon: he is the straight clone

Gender Headcanon: Cis

A ship I have with said character: None

A BROTP I have with said character: Jim/Will/Roy. Individually people can handle the Harpers, when together however they're barely coherent sibling chaos

A NOTP I have with said character: None but I do have a running gag that he keeps accidentally dating lesbians.

A random headcanon: Jim struggles with mental and emotional issues due to the mind control he lived under for years. Given his role at Cadmus, one of his problems is an intense aversion to authority. He's not aggressive about it, he usually just tries very hard to avoid people he knows are louder and bossier than most. Being told what to do, even if it's a polite and casual request, can trigger a flight response most times, or a sharp tone at worst. More often than not he stays close to Roy and Will because they're both really good at keeping him busy or just providing him much needed company. They've become a bit of a safety net for him.

General Opinion over said character: I like Jim a lot, but out of the three Harpers I think he's probably the one I leave alone the most. The showrunners didn't do a lot with him after the second season and while I liked his appearance in season 3, they need to do more with him this season.

NOW FOR ROY

Sexuality Headcanon: Gay gay gay he is gay

Gender Headcanon: cis, but flexible

A ship I have with said character: LOVE Jason/Roy. my extremely specific love for YJ roy revolves a lot around him being the iconic Angry Small and shipping him with canonic giant brick shit house Jason is my bread and butter. Mean Bisexual dates even Meaner Gay Little Cat

A BROTP I have with said character: Tim and Roy. Often times Tim has upgrade ideas for his arm that make working with it a lot easier. Plus Tim is one of the only people who brushes off Roy's rude, snarkish attitude. Tim is pretty much the only person other than Jason allowed to touch Roy's arm

A NOTP I have with said character: Not fond of Cassie/Roy

A random headcanon: GOD i have so many have like three

1) Roy's time in the cryo-chamber left him with a lingering chill. He gets cold very easily and when he gets cold he gets cranky. The coldness is something that is pretty much always present. He layers up a lot because of it and sleeps under as many blankets as possible. He prefers Jason practically on top of him when they sleep because he can't get warm and Jason is an oven. Everyone is pretty sure its psychological, but it can be dangerous. He overheats easily and doesn't realize it's happening because he still feels cold.

2) Roy doesn't apologize for things verbally. It sucks because some people need to hear it, and most times Roy is the one in the wrong. He tries to make up for things through actions like buying food for people or turning on their favorite movie. He should just learn to apologize, but he's an angry, over-sensitive ass-hat who takes everything too personally and would rather die than be wrong. He is making an effort to get better though.

3) Roy gets phantom pains in his arm. More often than not, they're triggered by stress or anxiety. He doesn't know what to do when this happens and it can make him way crabbier than he usually is. When this happens he usually goes to his brothers because he's ok with being touched by them. Jim has a heating pad he gives him, and and talks him through it. Compression pads help too, and Jim is allowed to touch Roy's arm to put it on for him. Will is usually busy with Lian, but Roy still tries to be around. Lian is adorable enough to keep him distracted. When Will has a spare moment he'll usually come in and make sure Roy is okay and just sit with him a bit because sometimes Roy just really needs to feel someone there with him.

General Opinion over said character: HE'S MY SON. HE'S MY BABY. HE IS ME. HE IS MY SWEET CHEESE. I ALREADY USED THAT ONE TODAY BUT I AM LIKE A LITTLE MOUSE WITH THESE MEN