#tw mentions of fakeclaiming

[screaming-heart]

okay, so if yall don't know, recently(ish? idfk) there was a video of a clinician using tiktoks from did creators as examples of "imitated" did. i hate that, and i think we all hate that, but i want to talk about a specific thing he was saying.

from what i understood, this guy said that those with DID always present with shame, embarrassment, and discomfort about their condition, and are always or almost always in a crisis state. now, for obvious reasons i think thats bullshit, but i want to mention one specific thing.

those in crisis do not always appear to be in crisis.

i am someone who is not terribly functional. on a normal day, things such as having to make myself food, having to interact with people, or being interrupted doing something are likely to make me upset and angry. the thing is that i was not allowed to show that growing up. when i was in crisis, i had to learn how to hide it and how to keep going on with my day like nothing had happened.

that is basically what did is. from what i understand, did exists to keep the person functional while horrible things are happening to them. it keeps the person functional while in crisis. so the idea that did systems must always be visibly in distress or else they are faking seems to be like utter bullshit.

and also for using the videos of content creators who did not consent to that usage with no regard for their privacy i hope this guy is as embarrassed and shameful as he thinks we need to be.

[thebl00dym00nsystem]

I can NOT stop thinking about the fact someone thought we were faking because we *checks notes* use discord. And they told it to us ON DISCORD, and they’re a singlet that has only interacted with us.

Bro how else do you want us to talk to you? Telegram or some shit?? Hello???

[snow-on-mtsilver]

i HATE posting about syscourse but like i need to address this

most (but not all, i get that) pro endo posts we see are like: haiii ^.^ we're pro endo/endogenic/not traumagenic/not disordered so pls do not interact if ur an anti!!!!

meanwhile most (again, not all) anti endo posts that we see are like: ENDOS FUCK OFF!!! ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT RE- ALL ENDOS ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE!!! ALL PRO ENDOS ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE!!! THEY WILL RUIN THE ECONOMY!!!! THEY ARE STEALING OUR RESOURCES(said resources most likely being either therapy which, not really stealing the resources since it's not exclusively for systems, pluralkit, which i'm 99% sure is pro endo, and simply plural, which i'm also 99% sure is pro endo (especially since they both use the term "plural" which i see much more commonly in pro endo spaces))

[delphientropy]

(i say "you" in a loose manner and do not actually talk directly to the reader most times. because what i say may be a little upsetting snd it looks like im yelling i just want everyone to be safe)

hey fucking DNI if you think its okay at any capacity to post me or other systems on systemscringe. fuck off. fuck. the hell. off. youre not high and mighty for gatekeeping system experiences. youre not better than anyone for claiming someone who youve NEVER FUCKING MET IN YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE IS FAKING SOMETHING. YOU CANNOT TELL. YOU CANT. END OF FUCKING CONVERSATION. YOU ARENT A PROFESSIONAL, YOU ARENT BETTER THAN ANYONE. IN FACT IM BETTER THAN YOU. I AM BETTER THAN YOU. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP.

(this post isnt about endos. endos are not systems. theyre something entirely different and should not be in system spaces. stop forcing yourself in mentally ill peoples spaces and utilize your fucking block button instead of harassing me for dekais sake im sick of it.)

[attentionneedyqueen]

hi, separate anon here! i’ve been considering coming out as a system, but i’m worried about being fake claimed. do you have any tips?

OMG???? I don't think I've ever gotten an ask like this before??? I'm honored! Handling fakeclaiming online and offline may be very different, so keep in mind that I'll mainly be talking about online fakeclaiming!

Who fakeclaims?

Anti Endos, Sysmeds, and anyone associated with r/systemcringe are all groups who are based around/on fakeclaiming. Anti Willogenic/Tulpa stances as well.

Prevention

It's important to note that it is NOT your fault if you get fakeclaimed. You shouldn't make yourself palatable for ANYONE. If you follow this advice and you still get fakeclaimed, that is not your fault nor will it ever be your fault. Truth is that you can never truly prevent being fakeclaimed since fakeclaiming is apart of ableism. You will be fakeclaimed because people are ableist, NOT because you're too much x or not y enough.

Block the following tags:

anti endo

future is singlet

endos dni

non traumagenic dni

any variants

Remember to block as you encounter

Id recommend surrounding yourself with people who support you and really curating your own experience would help a lot! Any negativity you may experience gets drowned out easier when you remember people like you.

Dealing with Fakeclaiming

Being comfortable in what being a system means to you helps a lot along with being confident on why you use the labels you do (if you use any). If the building is sturdy, no storm can knock it down completely!

I get fakeclaimed on a pretty much near basis because I don't like sugarcoating how much I love being a plural system. When I'm fronting, it's super easy to brush off because I'm sure of my reasons for why I make the posts I do and why I use labels like endogenic, attengenic, etc!

But also keep in mind your own limits. It's okay if fakeclaiming gets to you or makes you feel unsure. You're not weak or any less of a system for being affected by it. If dealing with Fakeclaiming wasn't tough— and it IS tough— then people wouldn't be worried about subreddit and cringe comps.

Laugh at fakeclaiming when you can. Make a joke out of hate anons because let's be honest, you might get some...interesting ones

Remind yourself that your plurality isn't commentary on others experiences. Sometimes you hate something about being a system someone else loves and that's okay! Sometimes it's vice versa.

Remember, Fakeclaiming is ableism , it's also ultimately denial. Fakeclaiming exsists to shut people up about their experiences, especially if they think it's out of the norm or what is considered "healthy" or "okay". Fakeclaiming with never be righteous

And if it turns out you're not actually a system or don't consider yourself one or you want final fusion, that doesn't mean they're right! The experience was still real and so was your experience as a system.

And when you can't handle it on your own, talk to friends or family or anyone you trust really. Join a system community on Tumblr and post about your worries there if they allow it! It's okay to get bothered or upset

Best of luck, dearest anon, I hope you decide whether or not coming out is right for you🩷🩷🩷 no matter the decision, I'm sure it'll be wonderful 🩷🩷🩷

[puppyoclock]

average DID study: we assessed TWO people (representative of the entire DID population) who were diagnosed using the DSM negative twelve (which the dinosaurs used). we told a story and then asked them to tell us ONE thing about it, then gave them a score of how well they remembered the story based on the vibes of what they told us. they remembered anything at all, so the conclusion to take from that is that they were probably making everything up. more research needed

[purpleflameb0i]

People fakeclaiming systems based on their headmates will never not be funny to me

-Unknown

[unfamiliar-ghostly-system]

Endogenic systems can have trauma. Endogenic systems can have those scary distressing symptoms of trauma. Endogenic systems can be unhappy with their systems. Endogenics can wish they weren't plural. Endogenics can have flashbacks and amnesia. Endogenics can have headmates who hate them and do bad shit.

Endogenics. Can. Be. Traumatised. Pretending like every single endogenic would clutch their pearls at "real traumatised people" is fakeclaiming and invalidating peoples trauma.

[ellipse-society]

So I think there may be some misconception about what can be considered ableism. The disorder itself doesn't need to be mentioned for what someone says to be ableist. For example with DID there are many misconceptions that people use to be ableist(cw fakeclaiming). For example it's just demonic possession, it's just a trend you are copying from social media, or it's iatrogenic(your doctor convinced you you have it). Any of those misconceptions can be used against you without the disorder being mentioned and still be ableism. If it is a common misconception about a disorder that is similar to what you are talking about experiencing there is a good chance that the way the person came to that conclusion is by thinking about the disorder making it still ableism.

[the-100-percent]

Guess what (not out yet) endo system had to hold back tears when their mom was talking about how endos aren't real! 🤫🧏🎉🥰

Oh oh! And guess what? She kept bringing up "Alastor" as a sign they are faking being a system! And guess who was co-fronting with me when this was happening? 🥳🥳

-🏳️‍🌈

[cccat-in-a-meat-sack]

Guys, apparently if you use neopronouns and you're a system you're faking )):

Sorry to be the one to inform you )):

[mewos-laptop]

"Urrrmmm guyssss.... being a system is actually so horrible and bad and I hate my headmates bc they just remind me of all the horrible TRAUMA I went through that was so bad and you shouldn't even THINK about wanting because it was so bad, and being traumatized is BAD and I HATE traumatized people, which means being a system is so horrible and awful and bad, too, and my headmates have never done anything for me because being traumatized is bad"

Genuinely how some of you talk abt your systems when you're trying to distance yourself from "THOSE 'systems' on Tiktok"

[sappy-sabbath]

as a society can we stop making mental illness/neurodivergency trendy and romanticized. i know more mf who faked claim than ppl who actually had the condition. at the end it just makes the people who are diagnosed with the condition the butt of the joke or look disingenuous.

ALSO IF I MAY be real for a sec!!! it’s because of the “destigmatizing XYZ 🥺” tiktoks and self diagnosing that make this happen, i know they are good intent and not all people have resources but its one thing to be concerned about your mental health and another to claim to have a disorder that you haven’t been diagnosed with!

autism, ADHD, schizophrenia, BPD, bipolar disorder, psychosis, OCD have all became quirks than serious debilitating condition and as someone with ADHD and psychotic depression IM SICK OF ITTTT, it’s different with things like depression and anxiety bc you experience that at least once in your life but it’s getting out of hand

[canis-constellate]

remembering how, literally just days after we found out we'd been programmed (and that the current iteration was also programmed specifically to be amnesiac to said programming, hence why we didn't find out about it for a decade), we found out one of the followers on our main (who we were already vaguely uncomfortable with but didn't pop up often enough in our notifs for us to care) believed that RAMCOA/OEA was just exo/xenotrauma. like their actual dni was "RAMCOA survivors DNI. if you have exo/xenotrauma then just say that lol"

at the time we just silently blocked and didn't say shit about them (because (A) again, found out just days earlier, and (B) this was the same timeframe as the snowchester bull that happened), but. holy fuck man.

(that was also the incident (combined with us beginning to figure out our own shit) that actually spurred on our "hey btw we support and believe folks who went through RAMCOA" post, because it hit just a liiiittle too close to home and we felt like. idk. Tainted. since this was someone who'd been following us for months and we never knew/realized. we're pretty sure they specifically added it during the snowchester debacle since we'd read through their whole pinned post before and hadn't seen it, but we're also dyslexic and have other vision issues so it's possible it was always there and we just didn't notice/see. idk.)

[antiendovents]

Hi it's us we were the last anon lol. This is the experience we mentioned.

Trigger warnings for death, harassment and fake claiming and other general things that are just vaguely mentioned

shit, I'm really sorry that happened. I'm not sure what exactly to say but that is just so fucking frustrating. You didn't deserve any of that, everyone involved except for you was incredibly childish. Sure maybe going to her profile and laughing at her posts wasn't the best thing to do but she did it to you first. Don't start something if you know you can't finish it. That group and it's moderators are fucking pathetic too, harassing someone over a claim that had no proof to back it. They all seem like angry, bitter people who just want an excuse to be mean and to target people who they see as vulnerable. It's just so pathetic of them, for a group that claims to be anti harassment they're so quick to harass people over stupid shit

I really hope you're okay. You deserved none of this. You are awesome <3 (platonic)

[angrysystems]

Already blocked this fucking idiot for coming at me for no reason, BUT…. Surprise surprise! His entire account is full of homophobia, panphobia, disgusting takes.

Don’t fucking come at me if you’re nothing but a pathetic bitch who only complains about sexualities and systems. FUCK SINGLETS.

You’re nasty as fuck and stay off my page. I don’t care for your homophobia, panphobia, fake claiming bullshit!!!