#endo friendly

[pwuppykin]

me talking 02 my irls about it ❤️.

( we never address “ it “ as systemic or plurality. just discuss. it ‘ s sorta funny. )

I love you irl conversations about plurality

I love you respectful curious singlets/questioning systems

I love you normalizing plurality

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duck

[genderqueerdykes]

We're appreciating these pro-endo posts as an endogenic, especially the fact you account for traumatized endogenics (we at least notice "usually" and other such words in a lot of posts, and were taught at a young age how to analyze shit because of being autistic) so like...thanks. :)

Hopefully y'all are okay, anti-endos are really showing their asses this time in your asks. And we hope everyone else realizes they have always been that bigoted.

hey of course, thanks for sending this ask!

yeah i don't know why people don't understand that endogenic systems can... also have trauma. like. endogenic doesn't mean 100% free from trauma. anyone can have trauma. trauma doesn't always manifest in the most extreme forms possible like dissociative disorders. like i cannot stress enough that dissociative disorders are a very specific kind of plurality, and should NOT be used as a metric to gauge whether or not someone's plural experience is legitimate or not. the diagnostic criteria for dissociative disorders is so painfully restrictive that a lot of people who probably do have a dissociative disorder don't get the diagnosis because it's so fucking specific

and again, i just want to stress that endogenic systems literally are not hurting anyone. you are not spitting in my face or talking over me as a system with DID. you are being respectful by using a term that suits your experience way better. like idk how that is offensive to people. endogenic systems developed a term to express a specific type of plurality. that's not trying to mock or ape on dissociative plurality. it's not an attempt to talk over dissociatives. it's creating an entirely new conversation that needs to be had

people getting upset about endogenic systems are creating mountains out of mole hills. it is quite literally a nothing burger of a problem. there IS no problem. nothing wrong is even happening. like i cannot overstate how fucking annoying it is when other dissociatives decide its time to get on their high horses and act as if they're suddenly experts on psychology and mental health. like it really pisses me off when other plurals with dissociative disorders decide the entire plural community is about them. the dissociative disorder communities are about plurals with dissociative disorders. specifically. you can still occupy spaces made for people with DID, OSDD and so on and leave endogenics alone and the world will keep turning. the sun will rise tomorrow regardless.

learn to mind your own goddamn business if you can't respect that other people experience the world differently than you do. maybe, just maybe, the dissociatives who are intentionally going out of their way to mock and harass endogenic systems are the fucking problem, here. you don't get to be a fucking bully just because you have trauma. you don't get to attack and hurt people who haven't hurt you just because you were abused. that's literally fucking perpetuating the cycle of abuse. if you think to yourself that because you are traumatized, that it's okay to take your anger out on people who have no trauma, you seriously need to reassess your life. what does that do for you? temporary catharsis? a rush of dopamine that lasts mere seconds? chasing the high of harassing strangers will not undo what was done to you in the past.

as a dissociative- i only understand what dissociative plurality is like. i do not understand other forms of plurality. and you know what? i don't find the fact that other types of plurality existing offensive to me. it's just not. i've been very close friends with so many endogenic, spiritual, natural, etc. systems out there over the years. i have never found it offensive for anyone to say "oh hey i'm plural too!" and then explain a different plural experience than the one i have. thats why the term plural even exists, because it encompasses a broad range of plural experiences, not just dissociative ones.

like, to the dissociatives who are pissed off that endos exist: literally stay in dissociative disorder-centric spaces and tags. they're right there. you HAVE a community that you can interact with who understand exactly what you're going through. if it offends you that you find a VARIETY of plural experiences in the general plural community- that community isn't for you. like seriously. if it offends you that deeply that other types of plurality exist- the general plural community is not for you. it's literally not made for you if you can't except that numerous types of plurality exist. you have spaces you can occupy that ARE made 100% for people just like you. you can quite literally stay in spaces made for dissociative plurals only. like. you can do that. that's an option. and you can stop bullying other people out of spaces that they rightfully belong in.

trauma is never excuse to be a fucking jackass. it's perpetuating the cycle of abuse. that's nothing to be proud of. break the cycle. stop abusing people just because you were abused.

[d3r-d4s-di3-dex]

the winter time is here, Christmas are near and new year is behind corner;

shout-out to those who get eaten on Christmas dinner

shout-out to those who are cold

shout-out to those who starve in winter

shout-out to those who fear and panic from fireworks

shout-out to those who fight for their life while humans celebrate holidays of "peace and love"

shout-out to those whose past and present is not as bright as the future can be

shout-out to those whose heart was broken and those who lost their beloved one

shout-out to those who help others in need

shout-out to those who want to make the world a better place

shout-out to those who stay in shadow

shout-out to those who do not harm nature and do not use fireworks

shout-out to those whose kin got on the red list, who are endangered species, who are almost extinct and who are extinct

shout-out to those who are trying their best to survive

shout-out to those who are hunted for who they are just because they're not considered "normal" and for those who use to be a Christmas gift

shout-out to those who are having hard times as mentally as physically

shout-out to those who want to manage it to the new year

[ever-growing-system]

Jinx: We do that ALL the time!!! Especially with Jax, Bill, Blitz, and some other animated ones.

Chara: My voice changes based on what the last voice we heard for me was, like comic dubs. Most often it's the voice for the Twin Runes dubs though!

Kris: That's the case for most of our fictives with no canon voice though. Unless they don't talk, like me and Frisk.

Hey, all systems with fictives! I have a question for you:

Do y'all ever have to watch/listen to their source to "refresh" the clarity of their voice? Or is that just a me thing?

[pluralquotebook]

"man. wish we could record the inside of our mind. america's funniest. uh.."

"australia's funniest home dissociative disorders."

-🍄⛺ / @worst-roommates-ever. host one proceeded to giggle over australia's funniest home dissociative disorders for thirty minutes.

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[skullrift]

persecutor to protector pipeline is based actually. learning how to properly handle threats in a productive way is so cool. you’re doing great

- 🥀

[officially-other]

"DNI endos.... Like endoskeletons??? Fnaf??? That's definitely not what it is but idfk what it is."

A genuine thought we had the first time we stumbled into syscourse in DNI's by the way.

-Tommy

Don't use this post to start syscourse or I'll steal your kneecaps btw. Be nice.

[pluralwives]

1. Yes

2. Memories of our past lives

3. Cake cake cake 🥰

question 48: do your sysmates have birthdays? if so, how do you decide when a birthday is, and how do you celebrate them?

[cringegenic]

Cringegenic culture is "Sorry boss, I can't come in to work. I started rehearsing a scene for my d&d game and the leader of the thief guild won't give me my body back."

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[beingcultureis]

Fallen Angel culture is having fun doing something in the moment and then when it ends feeling earth-shattering shame.

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[headmateelevator]

hey so if you're traumagenic u shouldn't be supporting end*s!!

you're being gr**med into a c*lt of werdos!!

and b**ld a h**dmate packs are useless!! and dehumanizing!!

go get therapy and get help lmao!!

hey so insane fucking work sending this less than an hour after my post which i know you came from. my response under the cut!! tw for mentions of the things they mentioned in the post.

so you, smart one, decided to stalk either my account, OR the bah and pro endo tags just to do this!! because thats all I tagged it with!! and how, GENUINELY, how do you compare being pro endo to being groomed?? insane fucking work!!!! it's VERY easy to block and move on, block me, block the tags, and block it all!!' and I do NOT want to see you coming back saying you're trying to "help", this is NOT HELPFUL!! this is HARMFUL. and you should be genuinely ashamed of yourself for sending us this ask!! you are disgusting for making such a comparison! and as a survivor of a cult environment and grooming, this is neither of those things!! this is a community of people who just want to live their lives, away from hateful people such as you! i do not care if anyone interacts with my posts, unless you are hateful like this! be fucking respectful you moron!!! and traumagenics supporting endogenics is a very good thing!! as it shows not all of us are hateful like this, and like you, get a fucking hobby you cunt. please block me.

[the-cat-collective]

THIS THIS!! we don't do IFS therapy BUT our therapist does some work with that that's similar. literally if you do IFS therapy you should understand non-disordered plurality can exist.

it boggles me that there are anti-Endos who also are in IFS therapy ,,

like what huh how.. IFS litteraly says that like everyone is naturally multiple/ has the possibility to be plural.( plural IS an opt-in label and we are not trying to say everyone is plural / has to identify as such ^.^ !!! )

in the IFS book it literally says that plurality isn’t a disorder I’m sorry but being anti endo and in IFS therapy is bizarre since you obviously are not actually following the therapy ???

( this is comeing from someone who in the past has been in IFS therapy for a year and continues to view things with the IFS mindset. We also have listened to the most recent IFS book. )

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YOU stole the LORRDDD

[bubblegum-bros-sys]

Some types of switching for us