#pro endogenic

[frameacloud]

(Image description in alt text.) I found this comic by Sue K. on the front page of a very old newsletter for multiples, Many Voices: Words of Hope for Clients with MPD and Dissocative Disorders, Vol. Ill, No. 1, February 1991, ISSN 1042-2277. That was before MPD was renamed to DID.

[stardustsystemselling]

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(We’re selling alters for good prices!!! I am the host, Eve! We make alters custom for you and send fast! We can make fictive for $40 or brainmades for $20! Dm for more info)

[build-your-lmanberg]

Headmate! ──★

Good afternoon everyone and let's give a nice, warm welcome to Death!

Death is a Murderval who uses the they/them pronouns. They also identify as a group rather than an individual, wanting plural pronouns to be used when referring to them (ex: we/friends/themselves rather than I/friend/themself)

Death take their jobs as Scouts, Seekers, and Hunter-Protectors very seriously, sending out crows throughout the system to find hidden, dormant, or missing headmates. To protect the system, they come off as cold, dark, and twisted in order to intimidate potential threats. They also sometimes act as wardens, inserting themselves between a threat and innocent headmates. One or more of their many crows may also act as a sentry or silent watcher, sitting somewhere in co-con or co-front just to keep watch over front.

Death may not form exactly as intended, but we hope you'll enjoy them, anyways!

Requested by! ──★

Sweet Dream

[pluraljoyis]

Plural joy as an AFAB system is having headmates tap in for you or give you support during Satan's monthly subscription. So appreciative of my headmate Nines rn, hymn's being amazing

- ☄️🌊🔭 (if available?)

Plural joy for the Uterus Havers of our system is patting the cis men newly experiencing this on the back sympathetically

[proxy-system-culture-is]

proxy system host culture is frequently feeling like you're "roleplaying" even though you can't control their beliefs, words, etc because everything they want to do is filtered through you

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[the-catcafecollective]

Every like = 1 profile updated on sp

Every comment = 1 customfront status updated on sp

[schizostem]

Keeping the Simply Plural app installed is such a hassle for us because the host keeps jumping rapidly between believing we're a system to not believing we're a system. Like?? WE'RE RIGHT HERE!!

[archaeopronoouns]

So because its good to embrace the "all systems are different" mindset, here are some things... Because i want to

Instead of pointless and/or jobless spores , the brain only introjects characters with a personality it wants , or if it has a quality that will prove helpful . even then , the brain does not like to introject charas .

We have only a few fictives . all of our members are either brainmade/entives , or from our own BAH packs that f1 makes in sp

We believe in multiverse theory , and that theres multiple realms and realitys .. Thus ! Headspace is not just a place in the brain , it is an actual , real , living place that can be shaped .

I mean , we have facets and parts , but they arent really .. Sentient , i suppose ? Not in our eyes . they are simply masks to be worn , and for the brain to discard whenever it chooses .

[cannicullistic]

CALLING ALL PLURALS. new server!!

CHRONICALLY ONLINE PLURALS !!!

Like the name suggests, this is a discord server for plurals! We welcome all sorts of marginalized groups and communities, but we just try to be inclusive and provide a space for people to.. well, just vibe. Chronically Online Plurals is catered to the plural (pro non-traumagenic/endogenic) community, and is a 15+ server!

Right now we have a small community with a current few staff members, so we're looking to expand and look for more opportunities to invite people! We have simple verification through Appy bot, so remember to have your DMs open - you just need to describe some things for us, and we'll decide on if its good or not to let ya in.

Chronically Online Plurals welcomes a lot of people of many communities, groups, beliefs and more! However, we DO NOT WELCOME: TransID, Pro-Contact Paraphilia's, Exclusionists (sysmeds, anti mogai ect) and anti-fiction users. We typically don't care what you ship; but we do not want this discussed in our server. Keep your shipcourse and bashing, dramatics ect out of the server.

There's more you can find in our server, but here's a list of what we have to offer! Please keep in mind, again, we are a 15+ server!

▹well thought-out rules to go by ▹tone tag list to utilize (no, you're not expected to remember it all) ▹boundary, ping & colour roles to customize your user ▹'status' channel to show current fixes, mood, int status ect ▹18+ chat specifically for adult members to utilize, MUST ask for access by pinging the owner to add/remove the role from account ▹many media channels for various showing of imagery ▹plural specific area for all sorts of things ▹'finding' section for sourcemates and friend calls ▹safe space for syskids/littles to safely interact in

Consider joining us today - We'd love to have you!

PERMALINK <<< Click to join us!

[the-eternalized-constellation]

/gen question

is it like, normal/common for headmates in the same system to be in a relationship with each other? Like romantic or what ever...

I'm just wondering because in our innerworld the two OCtives who are partners in their source are all kissy kissy with each other it's crazy

-🐀

[frameacloud]

Rogan's Aphasia, by LB Lee

Content: Rated PG. Swear words, brief mention of surviving child abuse.

Medium: Book. An illustrated nonfiction zine.

About a personal experience of one plural system member losing the ability to talk due to brain damage (called Broca's aphasia), and very useful advice about how to deal with it! Some methods explored here are texting with emoji, carrying pocket-size cards with common messages, pointing at symbols on communication boards, and making your own cards so they reflect your own style and needs. Recommended reading.

To feature this zine created by LB Lee, I include it in my itch.io collections of plurality and zines. I'm doing this series of Tumblr posts reviewing and featuring other people's creations with links to where you can see them on itch.io to celebrate and draw attention to the cool stuff that folks make.

[sophieinwonderland]

I seem to have made u/Acceptable-Box4996 mad. 🤪

I'm genuinely at a loss though over them responding to my post about how this isn't about DID by arguing that... Yarbrough isn't a DID specialist?

Exactly why does that matter?

Why does a psychiatrist need to specialize in DID to have an opinion on psychological phenomena that aren't DID?

Actual DID specialists tend to work at trauma centers, which means they are practically only going to be working traumagenic systems by default. Why would working almost exclusively with traumatized people give qualify them for making judgements about psychological experiences that aren't related to trauma?

It doesn't make sense.

This talking point is intended to obscure the fact that this is written by a respected psychiatrist, and that it was peer reviewed and published by the American Psychiatric Association.

And yeah, you're still very clearly the manipulative one!

Because you made a conscious decision to only post the one source of many onto your hatesub, making it look like that was the only source I responded with.

Dear r/systemscringe... you're being lied to...

You're in an echo chamber. One that bans anyone who goes against it. They will feed you irrelevant distractions of "sources" that don't address the real topic to keep you complacent, but people who link to anything that contradicts the narrative of the hate subreddit will be banned from it just like I was.

The other day, there was a screenshot of a post I made on that subreddit.

A user asked if this was correct. They were immediately fed a bunch of irrelevant sources that only addressed DID. And they were downvoted for even questioning if there might be anything behind what I said.

The links on the comment don't work. But even if they did, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DID.

There is a very manipulative trick being used here to focus specifically on DID when they know that this isn't the claim being made.

Let's start by establishing a few facts. Including the actual claim.

Claim: You can be plural without trauma or a disorder

What being plural means: Plurality is an umbrella of phenomena where a single-body experiences multiple self-conscious agents of some kind. These agents may be identified by the system as having origins that are spiritual or psychological. Psychologists use a variety of terms to refer to these agents such as "distinct personality states" or "dissociative parts."

Now, with the basic definition out of the way, let's talk about...

The sources r/systemscringe doesn't want you to see!

The most explicit in using plural community language is in Transgender Mental Health by Dr. Eric Yarbrough. This book was reviewed and published by the American Psychiatric Association.

Below are some choice excerpts from the book's chapter on Plurality.

This establishes the following:

The phenomenon of plurality is not the same as DID. (Which is why the sources discussing DID being caused by trauma are irrelevant distractions.)

Many plurals are happy being plural and not distressed by their plurality. (Important since "distress or impairment" are a criterion of DID and OSDD in the DSM-5.)

Plurality isn't necessarily caused by trauma.

In the World Health Organization's ICD-11, the term used for dissociative identities is "distinct personality states."

The ICD-11 includes the "boundary with normality where it states that you can experience the presence of "two or more distinct personality states" without a mental disorder.

This is, again, using a term it uses synonymously with dissociative identities. It's essentially using different words to say the same things as the Plurality chapter of Transgender Mental Health.

Do you need more sources?

Is the World Health Organization and a book published by the American Psychiatric Association not enough?

How about this study discussing multiplicity as a continuum of experiences?

The one thing that's been lacking for a while has been neurological studies into non-disordered systems. There is a currently-unpublished neurological study that was conducted into tulpamancy systems by Stanford University. Tulpamancy, for those unaware, is a mostly psychological practice of creating headmate through intentional effort.

The neurologist who led this study discussed the results in an AMA in the r/tulpas subreddit:

Essentially, the brain of tulpamancers showed different activity when a tulpa was controlling a limb versus when the host simply imagined someone moving their limbs.

If you're from r/systemscringe and this is the first time you've heard of any of these papers, that is by design!

The subreddit and most anti-endo communities are designed to keep you ignorant. Only their view is permitted. Anyone who contradicts their views, anyone who links to academic source that show the existence of endogenic plurality, is banned!

This is how they operate. It's how they keep you hateful. It's how they control you.

Remember, if there was a single paper out there that contradicted these studies, where even one doctor said you need trauma to be plural, r/systemscringe would have provided that by now.

The reason they only give sources about DID is because they can't find even one single doctor to say you need trauma or a disorder to be plural.

They want you to be ignorant. They want you to not find out what the actual professionals and experts think!

[tuonelabound]

plural lawyer call that a justice system

[pluraljoyis]

It's nice having people who are as insane about your OCs as you are. because you all made the OCs

Manyy people in both my system and my partner system share a source/exomemories that we've been collectively discovering new parts of for years now, it's really nice

[skullrift]

being plural is crazy because you do the most mundane shit and have a bunch of people making live commentary on it like they’re streamers making reaction content

- 🦇