#mixed origin system

[d33pwaterabyss]

when you're plural, every game is multiplayer!

[dreamers-inactive]

Reminder that you can wholeheartedly love your system and sysmates and still have days where you feel tired of being a system. Sometimes being a system makes hard days easier, but sometimes it makes them harder, and that’s okay too.

[transspeciesguy]

Endogenic systems that have naturally been a system as long as they can remember, you're so cool.

Endogenic systems that formed out of loneliness, you're so cool.

Endogenic systems that formed for no fuckin' reason whatsoever, you're so cool.

Endogenic systems that technically formed from trauma but it's not the "usual" type of trauma so they labeled themself endo, you're so cool.

Endogenic systems that formed for fun, you're so cool.

Endogenic systems that are multigenic, you're so cool.

Disordered endogenic systems, you're so cool.

[felixcosm]

Some pro-endo reminders 💟 Free to use/steal!

[thecovenofcrows]

TW: vent

"We love you"

No,

No, you really don't,

You don't love us,

You love "Them",

But they don't exist,

But you don't love us,

You love the person we pretend to be,

Not the people we are.

[noxsynpositivity]

All systems are valid.

Maybe you formed from trauma, or maybe you formed for a reason other than trauma.

Some of us have disorders, while some of us do not.

Some people willed their system into existence, and some have been plural for as long as they can remember.

We're all experiencing life as more than one.

What we call our headmates/alters/parts/sysmates is up to us.

We can view ourselves as more than one person.

There are no rules on how to live as a system.

[syllvarin]

Non-traumagenic plurality: How could it be possible?

First off, let's start with what some anti-endo folk mean versus what they don't mean with traumagenic plurality

They mean systems caused by/as a response to trauma and traumatic events, and those who are still affetced by them, aka systems who are disordered, DID/OSDD/UDD.

What they don't mean is systems who have trauma in their origin along with other causes. They do not believe a system can very well be traumagenic but function smoothlessly due to recovering, or have multiple origins.

Note: We are a diagnosed DID system with mixed (trauma/ramcoa/neuro/para) origins. Yes, we know what we are talking about. No, that doesn't mean we can't do mistakes, but we will try our best to be as accurate as possible. We will include scientific articles, DSM-5 DID checklist, and many more in this post.

How can that be possible?

1st: Brains are quite complicated. Research on brain functions is far from being complete, it is a long road that we are still at the very beginning of. We still don't know how brain exactly works let alone how it can form seperate conscious identities and work them together. We do know headmates exist based on brain MRI's ( link here ) That proves us that systems indeed, exist.

2nd point i want to make is that science is not done in a linear fashion. We are studying to be neuroscientists ourselves and the very core of what makes science doable is MONEY. Yes, in this capitalist system even the most seemingly basic research requires funding, money, and a goal that can be monetized to get done. Reseaches on female autonomy, rare disorders and "demonized" disorders such as DID is therefore not often as it is not easily capitalized and funded.

Therefore we do not have enough research to prove or disprove that the only way of becoming a system is through childhood.

And that brings me to my 3rd point, where we will take a look at what DSM-5 (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition) says about diagnostic crietria of DID. We will see how it is a dissocative disorder, not a trauma disorder.

Found under dissociative disorders (not trauma disorders!), checklist for DID is as follows:

See how none of those checklist include trauma as checklist? Yes DID is commonly caused by trauma but not always. Yes it commonly is created during childhood but not always. Those arent in diagnostic criteria.

Definitive feature is not trauma, it is distinct personality states or experience of possession.

DID is associated with traumatic events, does not mean it requires it.

DID can manifest at almost any age (DSM-5 is saying that, folks)

What's more is OSDD doesnt even have a definitive checklist like DID. it is found under differential diagnosis, with other disorders. PDID (partial DID where one part is frontstuck a majority of the time) is also up to psychiatrist's evaluation rather than a concrete checklist.

4th point is : What about Structural Dissociaton Theory?

This theory is as it goes: The theory of Structural Dissociation works off of the assumption that everyone is born with different ego states that later merge in life. Those different ego states operate for different actions in life, that later integrate into one person during ages of 4-6. Trauma disrupts that integration and causes ANP (apparently normal parts) and EP (Emotional parts). EP's are stuck in the trauma while ANP's are not.

source: The Haunted Self: Structural Dissociation and the Treatment of Chronic Traumatization" by Onno van der Hart, Ellert Nijenhuis, and Kathy Steele. 

Yes, theory. Theories are not concrete. They can be disapproved, they can change, they may not fit every experience. Structural dissociation only explains how DID can manifest at childhood, but we already know by now that DID can manifest at almost any age.

So I personally think basing everything on a theory about how DID might've been caused (which doesn't even perfectly explain every possible way) is not as fault-proof as one might think it is.

Point 5: experiences of "multiple identities" exist for so long into history (people who are possessed, talk to themselves, act weird at times, are very different at times, etc), way before any DID/OSDD terms were created. And actually, how can we know how many people in history have had this experience when the very society we are in is very scared of them? It is fair to say only the disruptive cases must've been noticed, and majority of them probably were either deemed as crazy or exorcised as they believed those people were possessed by spirits. Just because your experience does not fit with others and just because science hasnt done anything to back them up, doesn't mean people's lived experiences are false. Why would so many people tell that they are a system when they are not? We are not living in a place where being a system is happy or fun, we are not in a society where its profitable or anything. It literally gives a person zero + points for being plural if they arent. It would be a nonstop roleplay they have to keep up throughout every aspect of their life; and at that point, it must be either impossible or that person is already plural and not roleplaying when no one is looking at them.

Creating headmates is on the same basket. A person with DID can create headmates in blink of an eye (we know from oursleves) sometimes splitting threshold is so low you may split off multiple people at once. You cannot know what is going in a person's mind, and what mechanisms work for creating a headmate. If they claim they did, it is very much no chance they are faking being different people 24/7. It *is* a real chance that they actually did develop a headmate. If you do not believe them; ask them about their experiences. I am %100 positive that if you actually listen to them, you will see those people are only trying to live their life.

Also, if you think healthy systems cannot exist and only way to be a system is through dissociation and dysfunction; then why would DID systems try to heal anyway? Wouldn't that just be sanist and ableist to expect all of them to turn into singlets because healthy multiplicity isnt a thing?But no, it is a thing, and healthy multiplicity and recovery is possible for systems. DID and other disordered forms of plurality do indeed exist, and they are indeed, treatabe in multiple ways according to what a person feels comfortable with. That is also a system's right to heal however they please. They don't owe anyone their right to stay as plural or become a singlet.

6th point I want to make is about: Why do we even care?

If a person says they have multiple people in their head, why do we care and tell them they are faking? They are not claiming to have a diagnosis, even if they did; if their situation is causing a distress to them, then they ARE diagnosable and that therefore is none of our business, again.

Last point I want to make is how endogenic DID is possible. yes, possible. remember how trauma is not in diagnostic criteria and DID can happen at any age? If endogenic plurals can happen, they can also form DID at later in life. They can also become disordered due to an event in their life. They can lose harmony and become so dysfunctional they need professional help. That doesn't mean they are no longer endogenic or some other origin, that simply means their state is different than what it was and they need help.

End of our post. Thank you for reading.

[ghosting-plural-userboxes]

“This [BLANK] hates syscourse” userboxes !

these are pretty self indulgent :D!

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[w31rdm4g3dd0n]

I swear if I see an anti-endo say endogenic systems are claiming a trauma disorder when they're not, I'm going to scream. Like, yes, some endogenic systems do, but that's because they also have trauma?? Nobody is claiming you can have a trauma-based disorder without trauma, they're claiming plurality without a disorder.

I'll always say this:

Every disorder has a non-disordered counterpart. If it doesn't cause distress or affect at least one major area in functioning, it's not a disorder. This includes stuff like DID. Plurality is not a disorder, but DID is.

-Vito

[the-alarm-system]

infographic practice

pluralphobes are jealous over your plurality, remember that

edit:

[TEXT ID: Title is Coping with Fakeclaiming by @the-alarm-system.

1.Express concerns to your headmates. being consistently fakeclaimed can harbor feelings of distrust towards your beloved headmates, discussing these feelings can allow the help to reassure anothers existence.

2.Affirmations. According to acendahealth. org, affirmations support positive feelings and ease stress. You may say affirmations outloud, write them down, or say them internally.

3.Taking a break. Whether you are being fakeclaimed in a real life scenario or online, it's healthy to know when to step back from an argument that is actively stressing you out or harming you. Know that your time is both precious and limited, spend it wisely.

4.look at visual reminders. Visual reminders of our plurality could be forms of physical communication like a journal or a simply plural. You could also ask your headmates to leave behind visual reminders(notes etc)

5.Be logical. BE LOGICAL when it comes to fakeclaiming. Those who are faking do not question if they are faking or not. Even if you are a willed headmate, singlets don't question if they are plural or not.

small text at the bottom says this post is not for radqueers or anti endos END ID]

[werewolf-pack-system]

I don't see this talked about very often, so shout out to the non-disordered systems who have disordered traits!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have dissociation!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who experience dissociation between switches!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who struggle to ground themselves!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who experience dissociation which is totally unrelated to their plurality!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have amnesia!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have strong barriers between members, making it hard or impossible to share memories!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who are amnesiac due to a traumatic brain injury, rather than their plurality!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who forget things easily and have to write notes to remember!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have to write notes to be able to communicate with other members!

Shout out to non-disordered systems who have both dissociation and amnesia!

And shout out to all the other non-disordered systems who have disordered traits and combinations of traits which I haven't mentioned here!

Too often, we see the assumption that dissociation and/or amnesia + system = disordered, and as a non-disordered system who experiences dissociation ourselves, it's somewhat frustrating to feel left out of the discussions. To be disordered, there needs to be the key element of clinically-significant distress.

So, to everyone from the most dissociated, amnesiac system out there who doesn't feel distress from their symptoms, to the system who has only occasional bouts of dissociation from sensory issues, to the system who has difficulty remembering things due to brain injury, this post goes out to you!

[framesys]

shout out to fictives! 🫧

fictives who identify/associate themselves with their source!

fictives who don't identify/associate themselves with their source!

fictives who look exactly like themselves from source!

fictives who look completely different from their source!

fictives who have vivid source memories!

fictives who don't remember , don't have or particularly care for their source memories!

fictives with problematic sources!

fictives with popular sources!

fictives with very small or less known sources!

fictives of au / alternate universe versions of characters!

fictives of ocs, fan characters or original characters!

or anything in between all of these, you're cool too!!

i love ya'll, you are so valid no matter what!! ^_^

[theoreticallysweet]

we should have a plurality awareness month where we all post about system experiences and post silly videos spreading awareness about it and educate singlets in august or something that would be nice

[felixcosm]

"Endogenics aren't like us!" And? Why does that matter? Do you make fun of lilacs for not being roses? Do you mock diamonds for not being like pearls? Do you also viciously attack dogs for not being cats?

The syscommunity is literally so full of variety and differing experiences, why do you have to destroy everyone who doesn't look or act like you to feel special?

[thecovenofcrows]

No way anti-endos go “Endos and supporters DNI” and then put “anti good faith identities DNI” and don’t even consider that they’re anti good faith identities themself.

no way.

[the-sour-patch-crew]

TLDR Version of this post

I've been seeing people complain that "The Future is Plural" is about wanting people to be traumatized.

It's not.

But, for those people who feel trauma is the only way to be plural let's see all the POSITIVES of more people being plural.

When people feel safe and accepted, they stop hiding. Thus more systems.

Systems who decided not to end their lives would add to that number. Which is probably the BIGGEST reason to want the future to be plural because even one life lost is one too many.

With more visibility means even more understanding of plurality in the medical field. More understanding in how to help systems cope and heal. This means more people can also be accurately diagnosed, which again increases the number of systems.

Cultural and religious plurality gets to keep thriving and expanding to new generations.

Trauma isn't going anywhere, and if the best way for someone to cope is to be a system, then yes, I hope we do see more plurals in the future. Especially if the other option would be far, far worse.

The Future is Plural is as easy to understand as The Future is Trans or The Future is Women or The Future is Neurodivergant.

I am NOT explaining the slogan or feel a need to defend it. What I am trying to do is show the positives that people seem to have a hard time finding when they take it so literally.