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[pluralhottakes]

my plural hot take is that DID+ should not be inherently tied to plurality / systems.

alters aren't always "alternate people", they don't have to be. sometimes it's also be "altered state of consciousness", and that's ok too.

"b-but did can cause plurality!!!!" keyword CAN. yes, it CAN, but CAN does not mean ALWAYS. the disorders are about dissociative states, NOT about plurality, the latter being an IDENTITY that you CHOOSE to IDENTIFY as.

"isn't system the same as did?" i guess someone with did could view and feel like their alters are different people, thus being a system, but remember:

"A system is the collection of people and entities, often called headmates, that share a single physical plural body."

i am so sick of people asking me about my discourse stance or anything system-related whenever i mention these disorders.

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Its so funny when anti willos spell willo as willow.

Like bro what did willow trees do to you?

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I’m gonna rant.

I absolutely hate people who assume that systems online are faking DID because of the “impression” that they portray themselves as fun and quirky. So what if someone’s personality is like that? Doesn’t neglect the fact that theyre a fucking system.

Have we forgotten about how people cope? Tons of people use the internet as their safe space, as a way to cope with trauma and abuse and to feel like in control, and you wanna fakeclaim them for THAT? You would honestly have to be incredibly pathetic to do that.

The reasons fakeclaimers have to fakeclaim and accuse people is so stupid too, silas literally saw a person say that they got fakeclaimed for having green hair

WE LITERALLY HAVE GREEN HAIR. THE FUCK DOES HAIR HAVE TO DO WITH THE BULLSHIT WE BEEN THROUGH????? WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE LITERAL ABUSE THAT LED US INTO THIS???

And also the whole “aesthetic blog” shit. Like sorry if I don’t want my blog to look boring and average and sad, it’s called having free will. It has NOTHING to do with the shit we deal with. Its like these people can’t fathom a DID system without imagining a miserable person who is probably in the psych ward, which honestly, is ableist because this implies that DID systems can’t be happy. It implies that we are not allowed to have any ounce of joy.

Or introjects. Like, “my bad for having introjects, boohoo i must be faking it” give me a fucking break alr.

Fakeclaimers dont know shit. They spew misinformation, lies, and ableism and hurt EVERYONE. The damage done by fakeclaimers is guaranteed to be more damaging than any faker because so many of you target multiple people at once to the point of literally harassing DIAGNOSED SYSTEMS. Tell me how thats somehow better than a faker.

Fuck you fakeclaimers, fuck you systemcringe.

Your actions have hurt more people than fakers ever will. There are more of you than there are of them. Go touch grass and spend your damn energy doing something productive.

No one asked you to do a full on witch hunt. Fuck. Off.

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Every time an anti-endo starts some bullshit with us they have that somewhere on their blog 😂

"endos/supporters dni"

Then...why are you interacting with us?? And claiming that we're the ones breaking your boundaries when we literally were just minding our own business?

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Origin wars are honestly so childish. Like at the end of the day we are all systems, why does it matter how one formed??

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THIS ENTIRE POST.

It is one thing to dislike a group. Its a whole other thing to claim that the group you hate isn't real.

For example you can dislike endogenic systems all you like. No one is forcing you to like them. But saying things like "they aren't real" is actually incredibly triggering for some people, especially when a lot of people in the endogenic communities are ALREADY questioning whether they are real or not. A lot of people already feel like they are faking their plurality just because they don't fit into the tiny boxes that have been pushed.

Also putting that shit on positivity posts is fucked up. Especially when the post is along the lines of "everyone is valid, no matter what" and then suddenly in the tags you see "[x] not for you" "[x] is not real" "[x] is not valid".

Or another example: "Be kind to everyone" and the tags are "#endos are ableist". How is that being kind? How is this being positive? The tags are actively going against what you claim to stand for. Do you think spiraling someone into a fucking panic attack because now they don't know what is real is "kind"?

Sorry for the rant, a little pissed off right now.

[pluralhottakes]

Friendly reminder that endogenic systems can have trauma. It is not the reason for their system to form, yes, but that doesn't make either of said experiences any less valid.

[pluralhottakes]

Tags we hate and why:

"Endos aren't real"/"Endos aren't valid" - we get it, you hate endos. You made that perfectly clear with your anti endo tag. You didn't need to add the fakeclaiming tags.

"Endos are ableist" - calling people ableist for having a system that forms differently than you is just weird.

"Endos not for you" - despise this tag, ESPECIALLY ON GRAPHICS AND DIVIDERS BLOGS. Because what do you mean "teehee endos not for you 🤭" on a fucking divider with pretty hearts or on a gif of Hatsune Miku?? How are you gonna know who uses your stuff? Sure your thing might say to credit, but there are people who don't do that.

[pluralhottakes]

normalize getting really messy with anti endos when they fakeclaim you

i imagine SOMEBODY thinks thats triggering but like

you expect me to not be bitchy at you after labeling me as fake or smth?

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Genuine question, why do you support Endosystems despite their logic and identity being harmful and ableist to the disorder that you all have?? My bad if this seems personal.

They're not ableist. I've been pro-endo even before I knew my system fully and I continue to stand by it. I don't understand how they're ableist. DID, OSDD, pDID are ALL trauma based, that is correct, but that's not what endogenic systems are often claiming to be. Endogenic is a system, alter, sisasystem, etc that formed for reasons other than trauma. It doesn't mean without, so YES, they can still have DID. Origin labels are opt-in labels, describing experiences, nothing less, nothing more. What's ableist about.. describing experiences?

If you're referring to non-disordered systems, they're not ableist either. They just have alters. Anti-Endos LOVE saying DID isn't just "alter disorder", which is correct. There is more to this disorder than alters. But the MOMENT you suggest you can have alters without a disorder, suddenly you MUST have one, which reduces DID to alter disorder anyway. A disorder NEEDS to cause distress and impairment. If somebody has alters, symptoms, whatever without those features, they can't be disordered by definition. You also can't be Disordered if it's related to religious practices or part of the common culture, so tulpamancy (though controversial), an endogenic type of systemhood/plurality, cannot be disordered.

In the end, I support them because why should I tell anybody what they can and cannot experience? AND multiple therapists (Including Dr. Collin Ross) do support Endogenic Plurality, and the ICD does speak of non-disordered plurality (WITH ENDOGENIC EXAMPLES). The absence of evidence DOES NOT mean evidence of absence. I have no right to believe it isn't possible, considering I am TraumaEndo with Primarily Endogenic origins. So if I didn't believe it could happen, how could it be happening to me?

I can go on about this, but this is already really long. So, tdlr: in the end, Endogenic systems do have support from therapists and the ICD, they can still have trauma, and saying you need DID to have alters reduces it to "alter disorder" which is incorrect

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okay, i don't know whats going on in syscourse currently attacking willos like hell for whatever dumb reason, but let me get one thing clear for this blog.

Willogenic systems are systems.

Mixed origin willogenic systems are systems.

"Radendo" is a term consisting and engraved with ill intent to divide the plural community. "Radendo" implies that willogenic systems are not part of and under the endogenic umbrella which is objectively and inherently wrong. Endogenic systems are systems that formed for ANY reason other than trauma. this has ALWAYS included willingly creating a system.

Pro-endo always means you support willogenic and mixed origin willogenic systems. you are not pro-endo if you don't.

anti-willos, get off this blog, aswell as the pro-endo tags.

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where did all this willo hate even come from. are you THAT pissy bc you cant make headmates?

you are NOT pro endo. you're an exclusionist xoxo

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if you got “pro endo dni” because you think they’re “romanticizing” your disorder by being comfortable with their cdd but you have a pinterest board full of mental disorder pride flags, SHUT UPPP

also turning on notifs and shoving my phone up my ass so be mindful of that before spamming hateful replies - ardyn💕💙

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Did you know endogenic systems can be disabled? Did you know endogenic systems can have physical, emotional, cognitive and intellectual disabilities? I'm so tired of seeing people fakeclaim those they don't like.

I need an image of the Mr incredibles guy going "math is math" but the text says "people is people" and no I don't care if that's grammatically wrong, it might make some of you THINK

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PLURALPUNK V.2

Hey there! We're the original coiners of pluralpunk. We first coined this in 2020, and never expected it to get the attention it did. That being said, here's a new post for you all & a flag re-design.

As usual, the full information will always be available on the official carrd, linked in our description. Please link there when explaining what pluralpunk is or uploading it to wikis, since it's the most permanent place to find that information!

(If anyone can add image descriptions, it would be greatly appreciated.)

What is pluralpunk?

Pluralpunk (or plurpunk) is a movement that focuses on embracing one’s plurality and all of its intricacies in a radically accepting way as well as challenging the accepted “norms” of plurality within their own system and identity.

Pluralpunk is:

The rejection of the notion that plurality is inherently unhealthy/a disorder or that a system needs to be “cured” in order to lead a fulfilling life.

Acknowledgement that there is nothing inherently “wrong” with plurality and it is just another way to exist.

Acknowledgement that some may not choose to label their origins or system type while respecting the ones that do.

Freedom to do whatever they please with their system identity, including but not limited to: the name of the system, the names of headmates, subsystems, etc., pronouns, identity labels, and headmate origins.

Radical acceptance and inclusivity of any and all plural experiences - as long as those experiences are not directly harmful.

Inherently accepting, inclusive, and welcoming of endogenic, created, xeno-originated, spiritual, metaphysical, and other system types.

Inherently accepting of disordered and medical systems, including programmed/hc-DID systems, p-DID systems, systems with an ambiguous, pending, or unofficial diagnostic status, and systems with CDDs that are less visible in the community such as OSDD-1a and UDD (if they wish to consider themselves plural).

Italics are all new additions. These are not the only things pluralpunk can be - we invite you to make your own meaning, keeping in mind that is inherently inclusive and striving for a better future for all plurals.

Who is pluralpunk for?

Anyone can use this label, we just ask that you don’t use it to attack others and are respectful of others’ choices regarding their system!

This label was not intended for anti-endogenics, gatekeepers of any kind, radqueers, or other harmful individuals or groups. Your beliefs are antithetical to any punk subculture. While we cannot stop you, know that we do not approve or support anyone using pluralpunk to be exclusionary or harmful.

[pluralhottakes]

Love (/heavy sarcasm) the idea that endogenic systems are the only or main reason people are afraid to tell people they're systems and not like... The huge stigma in society against systems. The stigma that makes people think systems are daft, delusional, and/or dangerous. The same stigma that also affects endogenics.

[pluralhottakes]

This right here.

We have a CDD that has been diagnosed (though we don't think our last therapist put it on record but she did confirm it is the case) and we can control our switches to some degree however if we're super stressed out it gets harder/is a revolving door as the brain tries to find one of us that can deal with the issues at hand.

Just because a diagnosed system has control over switching doesn't mean they're faking, it could be any number of reasons why they can control their switches.

We're tired of hearing people get fakeclaimed over that.

Can we stop throwing diagnosed CDD systems that CAN control their switches at least to some degree under the cringe bus please. We do exist and using our daily experiences as a sign someone is faking 100% of the time is just offensive. Just stop. Please and thank you :)