#fakeclaiming mention

[atlas-corporation]

anti-endo: i want a space without people who believe plurality can be caused by things other than trauma

(civil) endo: ok, i wont interact because we fundamentally disagree about something important to me

(civil) anti-endo: cool, since we disagree, im gonna block you. i dont want to see your rhetoric

endo: cool, ill mutual block, because i dont want to see your rhetoric either

somebody who is not plural but likes to get up in plural peoples business: lmao look at these FAKERS pretending to be systems LMAOOOO "ANTI-ENDO" vs "ENDO" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 GROW UP. plurality is NOT REAL

[the-indigo-symphony]

"fakers are a concern because what if people start thinking real systems are faking" then that's a skill issue. I've seen actual fakers confess to their lies and I'm not out here accusing random systems of lying about their entire lives. I'm not creating arbitrary guidelines that "real systems" have to follow or else they're automatically labelled as fakers. I'm not treating every system I meet with distrust and suspicion by default. That's a ridiculous overreaction to a couple liars on the Internet. And if it's a medical professional of some kind using that handful of liars as an excuse to not give a patient proper medical attention and treatment? Then that's also on them. It's so easy to not judge people based on the actions of other, unrelated people. If people don't do that, again: skill issue.

[thebl00dym00nsystem]

I can NOT stop thinking about the fact someone thought we were faking because we *checks notes* use discord. And they told it to us ON DISCORD, and they’re a singlet that has only interacted with us.

Bro how else do you want us to talk to you? Telegram or some shit?? Hello???

[tommyssupercoolblog]

"i know they're faking DID/OSDD because their alters are cringe!!!!" This may come as a shock to you, but sometimes, people's coping mechanisms, are cringe.

so when their brain introjects or creates someone, it's also cringe.

[snow-on-mtsilver]

i HATE posting about syscourse but like i need to address this

most (but not all, i get that) pro endo posts we see are like: haiii ^.^ we're pro endo/endogenic/not traumagenic/not disordered so pls do not interact if ur an anti!!!!

meanwhile most (again, not all) anti endo posts that we see are like: ENDOS FUCK OFF!!! ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT REAL ENDOS ARE NOT RE- ALL ENDOS ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE!!! ALL PRO ENDOS ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE!!! THEY WILL RUIN THE ECONOMY!!!! THEY ARE STEALING OUR RESOURCES(said resources most likely being either therapy which, not really stealing the resources since it's not exclusively for systems, pluralkit, which i'm 99% sure is pro endo, and simply plural, which i'm also 99% sure is pro endo (especially since they both use the term "plural" which i see much more commonly in pro endo spaces))

[lemony-ink]

A very validating fact I learned recently is that you aren't being dramatic/faking when you unmask about your symptoms

If you're used to masking normally, it absolutely carries over to masking your physical ailments

Learning to unmask with your "invisible" disabilities is extremely difficult due in large part to the self fakeclaiming / denial

[atom-system]

I'm really upset because one of the blogs we follow [ for age regression stimboards ] is now anti-endo

They seemed so cool but now they are against our entire existence.

Aughhhh I hate anti-endos. I hate that they hate us. I hate that I can interact with genuinely good content because we accidentally created headmates without trauma.

I hate that intentionally created systems can't interact either. Because they wanted that and yet they're hated for it.

...

I wish everyone was pro-endo. I wish everyone stopped making generalizations and hating on other groups of people who've done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong..

We will never use "dni anti-endo" or "anti-endo fuck off" tags.. why? Because that's what they do. They tell us to fuck off. For what? We're here to be a safe space..

Its just sad and upsetting. Why hate?

[moonpool-system]

People that fakeclaim with the pretense of "you're only doing this online, it's roleplaying" baffle me, mostly because like... These people do realize the people behind the blogs they interact with have lives outside of the internet, right? Like tangible ones in physical space? We're still existing as plural offline with all the benefits and complications that brings. We're reminded over and over again that fakeclaimers do not see us or know our lives. They don't know the times another member has been laughing their ass off or sobbing their eyes out in front, when our host feels no emotional connection to the situation at all. They don't know the money we allocate towards non-hosts' interests and styles, nor the feeling of physical sickness in the body when a fictive dwells on their source trauma. They don't know we have many fronting/activity habits that have nothing to do with the internet. They don't know how we feel when we know we're not alone at night because we're able to remind each other it's going to be okay.

They don't know our personal lives. They don't know the intricacies of our private existence. We are real even when the eyes of others are not on us. Fakeclaimers will never have power over us again.

[multiplicity-positivity]

Here’s some positivity for systems who have recently rediscovered their plurality!

For many systems, their process of plural discovery can be messy, complicated, or difficult to understand. Some systems may have members who completely forget about their multiplicity, only to rediscover it later on. There is nothing wrong with forgetting, rediscovering, or struggling to come to terms with or remember your systemhood! This post is for all those who are rediscovering or re-questioning their plurality!

🌸 Shoutout to those who rediscovered their plurality after being made to forget for their own safety!

🕊 Shoutout to those who aren’t sure whether or not they are plural despite having identified as such in the past!

💕 Shoutout to empty systems who have recently realized that they are in fact empty systems rather than singlets!

🦢 Shoutout to dualconscious systems who forget about their plurality from time to time!

🌸 Shoutout to systems who feel like they’re in a constant state of discovery or rediscovery!

🕊 Shoutout to those who rediscovered their system after forgetting due to being fakeclaimed, hurt, or traumatized in some way!

💕 Shoutout to those with complex dissociative disorders whose dissociative barriers makes it difficult for them to maintain awareness of their system!

🦢 Shoutout to those who rediscovered their system after forgetting due to having memory issues of any kind!

🌸 Shoutout to individual headmates who have recently realized or remembered that they’re not alone in their own minds!

🕊 Shoutout to systems whose process of rediscovery has been challenging, upsetting, or painful!

💕 Shoutout to systems who have easily embraced their plurality after their rediscovery!

Having multiple instances of system discovery is actually a normal and common aspect of the questioning process for many systems. If you have recently rediscovered your plurality after forgetting about it, hiding it, or brushing it aside for any reason, we want to let you know that we see you, we believe you, and your rediscovery does not invalidate your plurality in any way, shape, or form! Know that you belong in the plural community, and we are so very happy to have you here!

If you’ve rediscovered your plurality recently, please don’t go hard on yourself for forgetting or refusing to acknowledge your system. What matters most is that you have made progress on your journey of self-discovery! Even if you forget again in the future, that doesn’t negate your progress whatsoever. Please remember to take it easy and have some patience and compassion for yourself and your system! Thank you so much for reading, and take care!

[eklesia-system]

Dumbest reason for being fakeclaimed?

I have an idea so I have to ask the question. What are common reasons you or a plural you know have been fakeclaimed? What are some of the weird out-there reasons? What are the DUMBEST reasons?

Please tell me, I wanna know, and we may try to make a video out of this in future idk. :0

-Bluefire

[delphientropy]

(i say "you" in a loose manner and do not actually talk directly to the reader most times. because what i say may be a little upsetting snd it looks like im yelling i just want everyone to be safe)

hey fucking DNI if you think its okay at any capacity to post me or other systems on systemscringe. fuck off. fuck. the hell. off. youre not high and mighty for gatekeeping system experiences. youre not better than anyone for claiming someone who youve NEVER FUCKING MET IN YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE IS FAKING SOMETHING. YOU CANNOT TELL. YOU CANT. END OF FUCKING CONVERSATION. YOU ARENT A PROFESSIONAL, YOU ARENT BETTER THAN ANYONE. IN FACT IM BETTER THAN YOU. I AM BETTER THAN YOU. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP.

(this post isnt about endos. endos are not systems. theyre something entirely different and should not be in system spaces. stop forcing yourself in mentally ill peoples spaces and utilize your fucking block button instead of harassing me for dekais sake im sick of it.)

[attentionneedyqueen]

hi, separate anon here! i’ve been considering coming out as a system, but i’m worried about being fake claimed. do you have any tips?

OMG???? I don't think I've ever gotten an ask like this before??? I'm honored! Handling fakeclaiming online and offline may be very different, so keep in mind that I'll mainly be talking about online fakeclaiming!

Who fakeclaims?

Anti Endos, Sysmeds, and anyone associated with r/systemcringe are all groups who are based around/on fakeclaiming. Anti Willogenic/Tulpa stances as well.

Prevention

It's important to note that it is NOT your fault if you get fakeclaimed. You shouldn't make yourself palatable for ANYONE. If you follow this advice and you still get fakeclaimed, that is not your fault nor will it ever be your fault. Truth is that you can never truly prevent being fakeclaimed since fakeclaiming is apart of ableism. You will be fakeclaimed because people are ableist, NOT because you're too much x or not y enough.

Block the following tags:

anti endo

future is singlet

endos dni

non traumagenic dni

any variants

Remember to block as you encounter

Id recommend surrounding yourself with people who support you and really curating your own experience would help a lot! Any negativity you may experience gets drowned out easier when you remember people like you.

Dealing with Fakeclaiming

Being comfortable in what being a system means to you helps a lot along with being confident on why you use the labels you do (if you use any). If the building is sturdy, no storm can knock it down completely!

I get fakeclaimed on a pretty much near basis because I don't like sugarcoating how much I love being a plural system. When I'm fronting, it's super easy to brush off because I'm sure of my reasons for why I make the posts I do and why I use labels like endogenic, attengenic, etc!

But also keep in mind your own limits. It's okay if fakeclaiming gets to you or makes you feel unsure. You're not weak or any less of a system for being affected by it. If dealing with Fakeclaiming wasn't tough— and it IS tough— then people wouldn't be worried about subreddit and cringe comps.

Laugh at fakeclaiming when you can. Make a joke out of hate anons because let's be honest, you might get some...interesting ones

Remind yourself that your plurality isn't commentary on others experiences. Sometimes you hate something about being a system someone else loves and that's okay! Sometimes it's vice versa.

Remember, Fakeclaiming is ableism , it's also ultimately denial. Fakeclaiming exsists to shut people up about their experiences, especially if they think it's out of the norm or what is considered "healthy" or "okay". Fakeclaiming with never be righteous

And if it turns out you're not actually a system or don't consider yourself one or you want final fusion, that doesn't mean they're right! The experience was still real and so was your experience as a system.

And when you can't handle it on your own, talk to friends or family or anyone you trust really. Join a system community on Tumblr and post about your worries there if they allow it! It's okay to get bothered or upset

Best of luck, dearest anon, I hope you decide whether or not coming out is right for you🩷🩷🩷 no matter the decision, I'm sure it'll be wonderful 🩷🩷🩷

[the-indigo-symphony]

I used to be really hurt when I got fakeclaimed, but at this point it's like that one incorrect quote of being accused of something you are very obviously not doing

Random asshole online, barging into my notifications/inbox: you're faking!

Me: *turns to my co-fronting headmate* (name)! We're faking?! Why didn't you tell me?! I would have put my book down.

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Random asshole online, barging into my notifications/inbox: you're faking!

Me: *turns to my co-fronting headmate* (name)! We're faking?! Why didn't you tell me?! I would have put my book down.

[puppyoclock]

average DID study: we assessed TWO people (representative of the entire DID population) who were diagnosed using the DSM negative twelve (which the dinosaurs used). we told a story and then asked them to tell us ONE thing about it, then gave them a score of how well they remembered the story based on the vibes of what they told us. they remembered anything at all, so the conclusion to take from that is that they were probably making everything up. more research needed

[purpleflameb0i]

People fakeclaiming systems based on their headmates will never not be funny to me

-Unknown

[unfamiliar-ghostly-system]

Endogenic systems can have trauma. Endogenic systems can have those scary distressing symptoms of trauma. Endogenic systems can be unhappy with their systems. Endogenics can wish they weren't plural. Endogenics can have flashbacks and amnesia. Endogenics can have headmates who hate them and do bad shit.

Endogenics. Can. Be. Traumatised. Pretending like every single endogenic would clutch their pearls at "real traumatised people" is fakeclaiming and invalidating peoples trauma.