#systemhood

[cosmicvenusnebula]

When you get to comfortable using "We" pronouns and accidentally use it in front of someone you probably shouldn't:

[burdenning]

dear systems,

— its okay to have inconsistent amnesia barriers.

- its okay to not recall times when you were fronting.

- its okay to have full amnesia blocks sometimes, and emotional amnesia other times with no identifiable pattern.

- its okay to not have amnesia between switches sometimes.

— its okay to not have gatekeepers.

- its okay to not know if you do or do not have any gatekeepers.

- it is okay to wish you had a gatekeeper.

— its okay to have no control over switches.

- its okay to switch frequently.

- its okay to have a low splitting tolerance.

— its okay to be polyfragmented.

— its okay to have no communication.

— its okay to feel upset that youre a system.

- its okay to feel frustrated that these things are out of your control.

- its okay to not be making any “improvements” in communication or functionality.

- its okay to be angry.

— its okay to be scared.

[drakesvalley]

The wildest part about being a system and having known you are a system for a while (6+ years for us) HAS to be seeing people who are just figuring it out fall into holes that you've long left behind.

Like. Yeah. We also thought we needed to keep tabs on everyone to increase communication. In the end it became too unwieldy. Especially since DID evolves with what you experience all the time.

Microlabels are cool and I fully support anyone who uses them, but figuring out what to call every single structure in your system isn't for us anymore.

Another thing we notice is people who try their best to know who is fronting at all given times. A lot of that comes naturally to us nowadays, but it's also... OK not to know. Especially if you're not focusing on anything system related at the time.

I guess a lot of this boils down to, it's okay not to care. It's okay to go with the flow of things and figure out at your own pace. Identity is fluid, especially if you have a dissociative disorder. You don't HAVE to have everything figured out 100% of the time.

It's okay to take it slow. It's okay to not know. It's okay to just exist for a bit. It's okay to live and experience things beyond being a system.

To all the people who are just starting to comprehend this. You do not need to know and label exactly what is happening in your head all the time. Fuck, we sure don't. And we're happier for it.

It's okay to just be you.

[mindotaur]

I love systems who make picrews and pinterest boards and playlists for different headmates, systems who have different styles of clothes and makeup depending on who got ready in the morning, systems who are unapologetic in their plurality and joyful in their expression.

[manyminded]

you have an internal monologue? pussy shit. I have an internal dialogue

[haymarketvtubestuff]

Tumblr may not be the place for it, but might as well try ...

(Reblog if you feel comfortable doing so, for a larger sampler size, or share with others privately)

[sovereignsystem]

Extremely curious because I have a theory. So, systems;

PLEASE reblog for sample size.

(THIS POLL IS ANTI-ENDO, DNI IF YOU SUPPORT)

This poll was inspired by the time I was in a discord server and mentioned how I was a premature birth and wondered if that contributed to (NOT FORMED) my system forming, and discovering 5 other systems who were also premature. This is not meant to be an airtight, without a doubt REASON for anyone to be a system, I'm just curious how much (if at all) overlap there is!

Thank you!!

-❔ (It/He)

[fish-n-friends]

shoutout to all the angry bitches out there.

shoutout if youre holding back snapping at ur roommate that the others love because youre tired of the misunderstandings triggering the lil kid. holding back bc u dont want ruin yalls relationships. holding back bc them getting upset would only snowball to everyone feeling worse.

shoutout to holding back despite holding so much anger, so much contempt. holding back bc they may not diffierentiate Your opinion vs the rest of the system.

I got our concentrated anger. our rage. our "take no shit, and do harm if thats what it takes" -

--- post cancelled, an hour ago while kenny wrote this, our wifi shut down so we didnt get to "finish" writing it (althpught it was nearly done anyway)

we talked it out w the roomie a bit later while eating together. since he felt much calmer after some time passed and the body felt less horrible after food, ken explained his (passive) aggressive stance etc :3 alls well that ends well. -powder (im also adding the tags for him)

[xdistantskies]

I love my alters. I love you, i do. 🫂 Thank you for being by my side.

[greens-spilled-tea]

Doing some thinking on parts and people language and just. Honestly I hate that it's framed as dichotomy of one or the other. Some systems have members that prefer one over the other, some systems will use both interchangeably, some systems have a more complicated and/or nuanced relationship with parts and people language.

Me, though? I'm realizing I don't really view any singular alter in my system as either of them. It's why my preferred language of choice is *version* of me. A part implies I'm part of a greater whole, and while that felt true for me when I was more dissociated and thus only had access to specific emotions and memories and stuff, nowadays I'm so integrated I don't really feel like a part of Reimei anymore. I just... am Reimei.

On the other hand, I'm also not all of Reimei. If you only know Green, you're not getting the entire Reimei experience. I am Reimei, but I'm not the only Reimei, yknow?

And that's why I use version, which really encompasses how I feel about myself these days. Sometimes when you're talking to me, the version you're getting is argumentative and blunt and kawaii as fuck, and that's the version of me that calls himself Green. But sometimes you may get a different version of me: someone who's more of a know-it-all, or who's peppy, or who's obsessed with audio engineering, or whatever. And those are all as real as this "me" that's talking and typing.

I don't like part because it doesn't feel accurate for my current experiences anymore- but I also don't like person because I'm only one facet of the complex person that is Reimei. So I'm a version of me.

[tales-from-systok]

Got fakeclaimed because we signed off our comments LMAO

HELP WHAT LMAO

[multiplesillylittleguys]

Shittiness aside, there's something beautiful in OSDDID I think.

Like, I helped us survive. I'm here because I'm needed. My existence makes our life a little less miserable. And I think that's beautiful.

Everyone who needs to hear this: You formed for a reason. Your existence is helping your fellow headmates. You're rad as fuck :3

-Alex !!!!

[boxesforsys]

This alter/headmate/part is the (head/primary) gatekeeper userboxes! Click for quality :]

[sysmedsaresexist]

Terms, from a syscourse perspective

A very long ramble

We're taking this to a new post, starting fresh, and going more in depth. The original post is off course and confusing, and I've seen a few tags confused by the uptick in polls, so this is for them as well.

SO

We're not talking about which is liked by more people, we're talking about which term hurts people less. We're talking about people who are genuinely offended by the term plural because of the history that many prefer to deny happened.

Welcome outside of your bubble.

There is a very nasty history behind all these terms, and the type of people who identify with them.

Some plural systems, to this very day, proudly use the term empowered, despite the fact that empowered multiples were a literal DID hate group. Like an actual organized one, with multiple websites and political activism. Many still deny the trauma basis of DID.

It was the fight for the word "multiple" that sparked plural, an anti psych alternative, focused on personhood and autonomy of their system in a community that largely boycotted the diagnosis and treatment of MPD/DID at that time. There were groups that demonized anyone who identified with the DID label. There were sites about what failures we were as systems.

Endogenic isn't just the alternative for natural multiples, but empowered ones, too. Plural is far more synonymous with endogenic than CDD.

"System" is the current hot topic. Endogenic systems don't have a right to the word, they're not "real systems," just like vickies wrote about the fight over "real multiples".

Some plurals are scared to use system

History repeating itself, over and over.

And all of these words hurt.

I think we should encourage the use of system for endogenic systems, but that's just me. That is a positive step toward an inclusive word that everyone is happy with. I'm finding that I have a lot more words for my disordered experience that system isn't really something I feel a claim over. If you call me plural, knowing I have DID, you're going to hurt me.

Looks like many are back to liking multiple again, so we can look forward to round two.

But which words hurt the most people?

We are discussing two words specifically.

Plural

and

System

We're not talking about alternatives, the conversation was, "plural is safer than system as a blanket term, less people identify with system, plurality is something we all share," and I said, "no, system is safer than plural as a blanket term, plural is seen as offensive to many CDD systems, the priority of my blog. The vast majority do NOT relate to being plural or plurality, system is what more people relate to and are less bothered by."

The why is because of history and genuine offense, whether you like it or not.

You say that no one complains, but if you had said this the other way around, "systemhood is something we all share," would anyone have been like, "uhm, ackshually, if you call me a system I'm going to cry." What would those polls have looked like? We get a glimpse in the polls now.

So what are the numbers? It's still early, but there's really only two parts of the poll that really matter. Everyone wants more options, but I'm really only talking about the options for uncomfortable.

Plural vs system.

"Not medical" vs "medical"

Pro endo vs anti endo

Words are the root of syscourse, are they not? How many antis say, "if endos just didn't call themselves systems"?

Based on the numbers, system is the safer term to hurt fewer people. Endogenic systems mind system less than CDD systems mind plural. The complaints you're going to get would be more along the lines of, "endos aren't systems," rather than, "hey, careful, that can be offensive."

Are we finally saying the fight over "system" is over and antis won, plural is better now? Well, then, I don't know that lumping anti endos under plural is going to help the syscourse divide at all. Remember a couple months ago when antis forgot that they didn't invent plural? The big war over pluralpunk? And how much everyone tried to correct them that plural didn't belong to CDDs? Because it IS so synonymous with endogenic systems?

Start at the top of the post, reread, the fight starts again. Don't put antis, mostly CDD systems angry at endogenics, under the plural umbrella. I know we're not prioritizing their comfort, but it doesn't just hurt antis, but pro endo CDD systems, too. Our history is important.

And going to be honest, my memory is not that great. I'm going to forget my friend's preferred terms and I'm going to offend people. I would rather offend them with system. Less chance, less hurt. System is the most popular, across the board. I believe it's lost its synonymity with CDD.

I would REALLY love to hear opinions on this from all sides.

[manyminded]

ily plurals ily neopronouns users ily plural neopronouns users, either by specific headmate or collectively

[imjustaf444keriguess]

POLL!

copied from this post except its actually 1 week and on its own post so new people can find it

using we/our pronouns for the poll and using "personal" and "umbrella" as short for "personal label" and "umbrella label". non-singlet used here to refer to anyone who is not a singlet, whether median or multiple/plural/system and regardless of origin or disorder status! not enough options for all the labels i want to include but its close enough. i also added median which idk if it's a personal label anyone would use but i know there are people who don't identify fully as plurals/systems but aren't singlets either (if you prefer median over median system or something u could pick that? idk i noticed i could make 12 options and median experiences are sometimes different than "true plural" or "true system" expeirences