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Other Personality Disorders
This post is about personality disorders that used to exist in the DSM or ICD but don’t anymore. You cannot be diagnosed with these disorders, as they’re not in any diagnostic manual; you would be diagnosed with Other Specified Personality Disorder (or the ICD-11 equivalent) instead.
Passive-Aggressive / Negativistic (PA/NegPD)
A pervasive pattern of negativistic attitudes and passive resistance to demands for adequate performance, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts.
Masochistic / Self-Defeating (Ma/SDPD)
A pervasive pattern of self-defeating behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts. The person may often avoid or undermine pleasurable experiences, be drawn to situations or relationships in which he or she will suffer, and prevent others from helping him or her.
Sadistic (SaPD)
A pervasive pattern of cruel, demeaning, and aggressive behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts.
Depressive / Melancholic (De/MePD)
A pervasive pattern of depressive cognitions and behaviors, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts.
Other Personality Disorders
Turbulent
Turbulent PD has never existed in any DSM. It’s part of Millon’s theorised personality disorder taxonomy, but doesn’t appear in any other literature.
It seems to be an alternate way of categorising and defining hypomania & cyclothymic disorder, and is similar to ADHD, NPD & HPD.
Millon classes it on a spectrum from ebullient personality type -> exuberant personality style -> turbulent personality disorder.
Haltlose
Theorised in German, Russian, and French psychiatry.
Haltlose translates to “unstable” (literally, “without footing”) and refers to a “drifting, aimless and irresponsible lifestyle: a translation might be ‘lacking a hold' on life or onto the self)”.
“Those with haltlose personality disorder have features of frontal lobe syndrome, sociopathic and histrionic personality traits”.
Someone with haltlose PD “lacks concentration and persistence”, and “lives in the present only”. They are “easily persuaded, and [are] often led astray”.
Haltlose PD is similar to AsPD as there is “an inability to learn from experience, and no sincere sense of remorse”. They are often described as ‘lovable rouges’.
(Cullivan, R, ‘‘Haltlose’ type personality disorder (ICD-10 F60.8)’, Psychiatric Bulletin, 1998, pp. 58-59).
Immature
Immature PD was mentioned in the DSM-III as a specifier for Other Specified PD, but removed in later editions.
It seems to be a combination of borderline, histrionic, narcissistic, antisocial, dependent, schizoid and avoidant PDs.
Almeida et al. suggest the following criteria for Immature PD: irresponsibility; impulsivity; unreliability; easily swayed; mood swings; expect overindulgence from others; dependency on others; ability for remorse or regret but it’s “light and fleeting”; inability to manage assets; inability to follow plans; quick to lie; unable to delay gratification; quick to frustration; devaluation of others; risk-taking behaviour; unstable relationships and behaviour; feels both entitled and worthless; attention seeking; recklessness; shyness; ungrateful; over-familiar with others; unable to plan for the future; substance use.
They also suggest 3 subtypes of Immature PD: the dramatic and emotional subtype, the shy subtype, and the mixed subtype.
(Almeida et al., 'Immature Personality Disorder: Contribution to the Definition of this Personality', Clinical Neuroscience & Neurological Research, 2019, pp. 1-16).
Eccentric and Psychoneurotic
These two personality disorders existed only as ‘other specified’ PDs in the ICD-10, where no definition is given.
#pd info#other specified personality disorder#personality disorders#dsm#icd#icd 10#dsm-iii#dsm iii#eccentric personality disorder#psychoneurotic personality disorder#immature personality disorder#haltlose personality disorder#turbulent personality disorder#passive aggressive personality disorder#negativistic personality disorder#masochistic personality disorder#self defeating personality disorder#sadistic personality disorder#depressive personality disorder#melancholic personality disorder#long post#dogpost#unrelated but that immature pd paper was all over the place... your diagnostic criteria cant be 2 pages long!#your diagnosis cant just be a combination of 7 other pds!#does NOT make sense.#ospd
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In other news. I am now a ghostmaker fan. BY jove is he funny. He's objectively better at Bruce's job at least 2/3 of the time (by a given metric of better). He doesn't get attachements. He's had two sidekicks and two love interests all of whom are reflective of Batman because he so desperately wants to fill the hole of what he thought he could of had with Bruce but didn't and so now on some level he believes that if he shows Bruce he's truly better at being Batman Bruce will come around. He cannot for the life of him not take a jab at Bruce. He has not stopped thinking of Bruce ever. He was willing to stay in Gotham to help Bruce out despite being a guy plagued by chronic vigilante wanderlust. He is literally a walking ninja cyborg aesthetic post.
Minhkhoa Khan you will always be Him.
#ship them or not these two have been microwaving each other in their respective brains since they went their separate ways#and just the way that he funnels Bruce back into a teenage dick measuring contest is so funny#theyre both wildly immature in separate ways#its beautiful. this is the first time in a while I have legitimately enjoyed reading a batman comic#dc#batman#bruce wayne#ghostmaker#ghost maker#minhkhoa khan#khoa khan#like objectively do I find some of the choices so far that have been done with his character good?#no. but then hes a brown bisexual man with a personality disorder in dc comics. its a recipe for miserable unthought through writing
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A sort of prequel to this post with the middle-aged Muddler putting down Moominpappa for his reckless decision-making.
It's just... I don't know. A younger Moominpappa having a proper conversation with a realist who is completely unable to get behind anything about him wouldn't be something he wants nor needs to hear.
#moomins#moominvalley#art#joxter#the joxter#moomin joxter#moomin muddler#the muddler#moominpappa#young moominpappa#comic#minor swearing#I don't think younger MP would receive a direct reality check very well all things considered#when THAT has been the one thing one's gotten from their subpar caretaker and you develop a cluster b disorder BECAUSE of it.....#criticising him for being an immature attention seeker really..... is not the best way to navigate his issues at this stage of his life#especially coming from someone he has no basic respect for on a personal level. he wants someone to build him UP not tear him down again#which is exactly the kind of person Moominmamma would be and still continues to be in the present day#once he's build enough of a life for himself THEN you can knock him down a peg for his decisions without him retreating away
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Book Rec for whoever needs it.
We are a couple chapters into Adult Children Of Emotionally Immature Parents and cannot recommend it more. It's been super insightful and validating. To all you "parent/therapist friends", people pleasers, anxious/unstable attachment havers, etc etc etc. I very much recommend it. 11/10
#mental health#book recommendations#adult children of emotionally immature parents#mental health blog#mental health awareness#cptsd#trauma recovery#inner child#inner child work#shadow work#childhood trauma#bpd#borderline problems#borderline personality disorder#bpd recovery#bpd awareness#childhood neglect#healing#coping skills#trauma coping
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okay genuinely, I am so fed up with this site. like don't get me wrong, I love being on here and interacting with friends and stuff, but people are so nasty to others for no reason. we get hate mail for venting too much, we get hate mail for being too happy. we get fakeclaimed. we get people trying to trigger an ed relapse. we get victim blamed. we get invalidated. we get all this hate, despite avoiding conflict at all costs. it's infuriating because no matter what we do, someone is out to get us
#🫀.vents#to the anon that fakeclaimed Asra and the arcana crew last night:#your statement made it clear that you do not understand DID/OSDD/systemhood at all. your statement made no sense whatsoever#to the anons that have sent us triggering ed/body comments:#I do not care. we do not care. recovery has been tough but it has been worth it. this is not just my body anymore#this is a vessel housing 60+ people. health is the priority#and to the anon that told me that my victim complex and self absorbtion have caused everyone to abandon me:#maybe you're right. maybe some who walked away walked away because of that. but those are personality traits caused by trauma#those are symptoms of the disorders I have. and the people who care about me know that and accept that. and I work on myself to be better#and to all of the above:#your actions and words are vile. sending hate to people who are clearly undeserving of it is disgusting and immature#one day you will look back on your actions and despise yourself. and that is what you deserve
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nobody in the group chat acknowledged what i said abt the crazy thing that happened today i'm cutting them all off because they're worthless to me & i'm too good to need any menials.
#/JOKINNNNGGGG AHAAAAAH#but the urge is EXTREMELY INTENNNSE#i havvve. self control ah.a#the pattern is#chosen person -> narc injury -> the CRAZIEST fucking devaluation#vent#me: should i post abt the negative aspects of my mental illness#my brain:#its empty bcs there are like 10 different trains of thought & they all crash together & cancel eachother out#npd#bpd#narcissistic personality disorder#borderline personality disorder#maybeee there'll be a day i won't struggle so much with other people. Maybe.#I CAN HOLD DOWN A RELATIONSHIP FOR MORE THAN A YEAR TRUST ME#plsplspls don't ruin some of the only relations you've had for a while 🙏🙏🙏#the urge to be Healthy & be like “i'm narcissistic rn can i have attention 🙏” then remembering they're immature & also that sounds weak &#sad & pathetic#I'M FINE
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#narcissistic personality disorder#NPD#narcissistic abuse#PSA#stay safe out here and do NOT allow others to dictate how you feel or bulldoze over your desires#YOU are a person#emotionally immature parents#you deserve a life of comfort & radical acceptance#do not harbor guilt for ways they have made you act out#the best thing to do is accept that you were preserving yourself the only way you knew how#and you are older now#reparent your inner child and heal#you may have done some things you’re not proud of but it could very well be bc you were pushed there and didn’t know how to cope properly#it’s okay. forgive yourself. forgive yourself for how you’ve allowed yourself to be treated too.#recognize your worth#get in touch with your higher self and all your true desires will rise to the surface. you will remember your TRUE identity.#the identity you’ve formed could just be a shell of protection that used to serve you but it no longer does#we can all feel it through the Source#let go & heal#i love you#mine#much of this also applies for those w/ narcissistic traits not just actual NPD fyi#felt this was relevant being in the midst of holidays#family can be draining#remember YOU DONT OWE THEM ANYTHING!!#not a THING. not time energy love anything
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#alternative fashion#pain#emocore#emo scene#actually medically diagnosed emotionally unstable#fuck life#fuck my life#rock bottom#my brain is rotting#borderline personality disorder#like im 25 years old and i feel so immature and inferior#trying to go outside and be in nature isnt enough sometimes#nature
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So I'm curious on something and I tried to look it up but the answers I found on the internet were really anti npd and biased so I'm going to ask here. Hopefully someone with npd could answer.
What's the difference between someone with npd and someone who's emotionally irresponsible/immature?
I'm asking for personal reasons as I feel someone I know had npd but I don't want to ask them to look into it because I know they'll take it as an insult because of the negative stigma with npd.
#bpd#npd#cluster b#emotionally immature parents#emotionally immature#help#narcasistic personality disorder
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im so fucking sad… I’ve been ripped open over and over because yet again I chose (???) idk what to call them. I led with love every time and it left me with shit & the scars to prove it.
#siempre tu reina#music#love#feels#playlist#spotify#art#swayze’#heal#beauty#narcissistic personality disorder#bpd#not ready#immature#materialistic#projection#insecure#weak men#manipulating
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Me thinks ASPD too often seen as “I’m angry cruel and I lash out” disorder when it’s fully chocolate coated in white supremacy culture, and therefore it exists as a spectrum everyone is on. So hard to empathize with the takes that ASPD makes one alien, when it’s really a basal developmental inclination at this point bc of what colonization did to everyone. All these “oooh I’m so scary I have ASPD I’m not like other girls” posts make me wretch, it’s big cringe. Antisocial traits are in everybody and it’s the othering of the sociopathic behaviors and neglect of addressing the role white supremacy has to play in the disorder that keeps the clinical field from being able to treat it- BESIDES THE FACT that Antisocial traits help enforce the status quo and inhibit people making meaningful change in their communities, and are even rewarded within the current capitalist environment- especially among the predator financial elite class. Lastly this isn’t like the false statement that everyone is a little autistic bc autism ain’t got shit to do with white supremacy. ASPD is linked to it.
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Any Day – One Liner No. 37| Don't Set Your Own Pant on Fire
The most cripling robbery happens when a person lies so much that they have no confidence in their truth.
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#catastrophizing#emotionally immature parent#mental disorders#Personal Change#personal growth#self-development#Simplified Approach#teaching#thinking#transformation#wellness
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Not a big c.s. lewis fan but I just think this quote really applies here
This was an interesting article to read. I think it's a little simple but still fun to skim thru.
#also sorry but the first image in this thread reeks of ableism and homophobia. like. maybe don't compare symptoms of adhd to “being a child”#and like yeah i am doing the things i couldn't as a teen in adulthood. why is that a problem exactly????#you want me to just suffer forever? want me to never try new things or do the things I love because you deemed them “immature” arbitrarily?#get over it#I don't have the energy to unpack all of this right now but maybe if people enjoying things you view as childish upsets you#you should really reevaluate why. It's not healthy to be this concerned with public perceptions and other people's harmless hobbies#it really just reads to me as an evolution of cringe culture and the way people will completely fabricate reasons why they're#“morally justified” in hating things other people enjoy instead of just not personally liking them and moving on with their day.#Liking cute things or disney or whatever isn't secretly a symptom of some elaborate societal issue or mental disorder. You're just upset#that people are able to enjoy something that you personally don't or feel like you can't#and so you're taking it out on them in a way that makes them the problem instead of processing your own emotions#it's all projection
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Idk if it's nature or nurture, but everytime I see my uncle I realize I'm like a carbon copy of him.
#when I was little I looked up to him#he was the cool uncle who did his own thing#and didn't want too much to do with the family drama#(everybody is unhinged narcissistic personality disorders emotionally unstable and immature)#I desperately wanted to have a good relationship with him which unfortunately never happened#but I just now remember - I kinda forgot - how much I looked up to him#we both liked movies a lot and he'd sometimes burn some dvds for me#but now that I'm older I'm realizing how much I'm like him#we're both the two single siblings in the family never married living alone and liking it that way#we're both very independent and trying to heal from our trauma#both through some spiritual thing or learning about psychology#we both crave independence and freedom from work and people#we have similar ideas about relationships and living together and settling down etc#it's funny because now that I'm grown we're having a grown conversation and I notice how much he likes me#and probably sees something of himself in me#he's never fully healed from his family stuff I notice he has kind of a hard time expressing his feelings#getting a bit shy and uncomfortable#I've reached next level healing and emotional maturity#where I'm asking him the questions he wants someone to ask him#(our family will literally not show interest below surface level like ok you want to do this with your life ok thats nice)#so I asked him some questions about his dreams and relationships and he went OFF.#and it kinda... got the ball rolling because he started talking about stuff and I kinda set an example for others on how to ask stuff lmao#healing the bloodline#personal#anyway it's funny because I never felt connected to my family I never felt a part of it#but they've apparently been a big influence on how i see certain things anyway
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Character Flaws
When creating characters, it's all too easy to envision the most perfect people, especially when it comes to creating love interests. Even our loveable morally grey characters are mostly perfect, if only they would stop killing...
So, here are a list of some flaws (based on personality, not appearance) to help round out your characters. While it's nice to be good at everything, it's abnormal. No one is perfect, and your characters will be much more relatable if you knock them down a bit.
Please note, none of these are (specifically) mental disorders, as I don't consider those a character flaw.
The Good (aka little flaw):
Absent-minded, aimless, argumentative, audacious, awkward, blunt, bold, boring, capricious, childish, clumsy, competitive, complainer, cowardly, critical directionally-challenged, dubious, finicky, fixated, flake, flirty, foolish, gossipy, gruff, gullible, hedonistic, humourless, hypocritical, idealist, idiotic, ignorant, illiterate, immature, impatient, impetuous, impulsive, incompetent, inconsiderate, indecisive, indifferent, indomitable, irrational, lazy, lustful, materialistic, meddlesome, meek, mischievious, nagging, naive, nervous, nosey, obnoxious, overambitious, overconfident, overemotional, overprotective, overzealous, passive-aggressive, paranoid, peevish, perfectionist, pessimist, pest, predicatable, pretencious, prideful, rebellious, renege, rigorous, sarcastic, skeptic, seducer, selfish, self-righteous, shallow, slacker, solemn, spacey, spoild, squeamish, stubborn, supersticious, sycophant, tactless, tease, tempermental, tenacious, theatrical, thoughtless, timid, unpredictable, unsupportive, vain, workaholic
The Bad (aka big flaw):
Addiction, adulterous, aloof, anxious, apathetic, arrogant, belittling, belligerent, bigmouth, bitter, bully, callous, deceptive, dependant, deranged, dishonest, disloyal, disrespectful, egotistical, envious, erratic, exploitive, fanatical, fickle, fierce (at the extreme), gluttonous, greedy, harasser, hubris, impious, infamy, intolerant, judgemental, lewd, liar, meglomaniac, morally grey, narcissistic, negligent, obsequious, obsessive, offensive, prejudiced, quixotic, reckless, rigid, self-martyr, self-righteous, short-tempered, spiteful, squanderer, stingy, unethical, unforgiving, untrustworthy
The Ugly (aka cross the street when you see this person):
Abusive, bigot, controlling, cruel, explosive, immoral, inhumane, intolerant, machiavellian, manipulative, murderous, neglectful, oppressive, racist, remorseless, possessive, self-destructive, threatening, treacherous, vengeful, vindictive, violent
The seven chief features of ego: self-deprecation, self-destruction, martyrdom, stubbornness, greed, arrogance and impatience.
Some of these may not even be considered flaws, and some may jump from one category to the next. It's all about how you present these flaws in your characters.
Have any more to add? Did you find this useful? Let me know down in the comments :)
#creative writing#novel writing#writer#writing advice#writing community#tumblr writers#writing#writeblr#fiction#character flaws#character development#fictional characters#writing tips#writing resources#character building
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hey guys!! just want to clear some stuff up when it comes to being aspec :)
recently we’ve been seeing some veeeeerrryyyyy incorrect takes, such as the following screenshot (no i didn’t blur the name, think of this as a blocklist for you)
as an arospec ace collective, we feel like we’re in a pretty good position to address this. this also isn’t the only person we’ve seen say stuff like this, but we don’t feel like hunting down other harmful takes :)
firstly, if we’re being loud it’s because we aren’t being heard.
[this is literally just how activism works, but go off ig?? -💖🐘]
secondly, who are you to comment on our struggles? we’re white, and as such we don’t pretend to understand the discrimination and struggles that poc face. we know that we have very different experiences and aren’t in a position to say what is and isn’t a struggle for them.
as for these struggles, parents maybe wanting grandkids is nothing. we are excluded from queer spaces for being too straight and not queer enough. we’re discriminated against by allo cishet people because we’re too gay and weird and immoral. when we create our own spaces we are told that we don’t deserve them. our only community is each other, and even then it’s filled with infighting because we’re all being told that we don’t belong anywhere.
we are told that we are fucked in the head, belong in a psych ward, are just trying to get attention, shouldn’t be allowed around people, are sociopaths/psychopaths (which is also ableist), are just naive/immature/ugly, just need an excuse for not getting laid, and are predators. these are literally all things that we (this collective) have been called personally.
we can’t talk about it in therapy or to doctors because now that’s the problem that needs to be fixed and we need to unpack the trauma that caused it. they are literally trying to tell us that our orientation is not real and is actually a problem or disorder that needs to be solved and changed. that is literal fucking conversion therapy
and we sincerely doubt that many aspec people would struggle with dealing with even worse aphobes because we do anyways. daily. from our family, our community, our healthcare, coworkers, classmates, and just about everyone else we interact with.
userboxes by @/inhumanliquid i think
#tw aphobia#tw ableism#aroace#arospec#aromantism#aromantic#aspec#aro pride#acespec#ace pride#asexuality#rook’s rambles#fuck aphobes
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