#i love queer people and being queer so much

[scarletfish]

update: fucking good riddance, and all love to Red Sullivan, the trans woman who had to deal with this bs and then keep fencing.

her club put out a beautiful statement:

As a former NCAA fencer, I just want to quickly second what everyone's said (and offer an additional perspective as a sabre fencer, where gender did play a role in my experience).

There are 3 weapons in fencing, with different target areas and styles. The above competition was foil. Sabre is generally considered the fastest and most 'physical' (many debates over this I won't get into here haha). In fact, it was the last weapon to be open to women in the Olympics, super recently (in 2004!!)

I started fencing in middle school. My coach saw my speed and competitive gremlin tendencies and said if I joined his new sabre program, he would train me to beat the older boys. I was hooked. Plus, the full body gear that's identical regardless of gender was comforting to me as a queer gnc kid.

When I started traveling, I realized fencing only men had put me at a disadvantage: the guys at my club were taller and stronger, so I'd worked on matching my strength and reach to theirs. Women who'd had more of a chance to fence co-ed were WAY better at reading their opponent and adjusting because they'd been exposed to a variety of styles.

So I traveled as much as I could and fenced women's divisions and co-ed. There are definitely STYLISTIC differences between women's and men's sabre, but that doesn't translate to SKILL differences. I earned my B rating and joined a co-ed college team where many of us had A/B ratings, and I can confidently say men and women were evenly matched.

Imo being left-handed is way more of a physical advantage than gender and you don't see anyone taking a knee and refusing to fence lefties.... bc that would be ridiculous....

Anyway. Fencing (at least in the US) is a safe space for a lot of people who don't fit into other sports. I'm not saying there aren't toxic aspects/people like anywhere else. It's a solitary sport and you get some assholes. But you also get people like my eventual team captain who obliterated me 15-0 at a comp and then tracked me down to tell me not to give up and give me pointers.

I coached for nearly 10 years in my overwhelmingly conservative hometown and circa 2019 was overjoyed to get our first openly nb kid. Their parents were looking for a safe sport, and I watched our club rally and do their best to support them even if they didn't quite understand (they had the spirit).

That's the type of culture we should be rewarding. Fuck anyone trying to do the opposite.

I'm sorry I'm going fucking insane over trans people in sports issues the anti trans crowd has lost the fucking plot and then has the audacity to act like its the trannies who are ridiculous

I used to be of the "well the sports issue isn't really important to me its w/e I just don't want it to be a gateway into other transphobia" but oh my fucking god we are so far gone. The fencing shit is sending me over the edge. What the fuck.

[steviewashere]

I don't know when I'll have the time to write this, but:

CW: Minor Mentions of Blood, Character Illness (Hanahaki), Use of Queer as a Slur

Hanahaki AU. Steve develops hanahaki over Eddie. It's not because, oh, Eddie's probably straight and doesn't know I'm into guys...

No, it's because, oh, Eddie doesn't want to be very close to me due to previous hangups he has.

Cut to Steve coughing up dark purple, almost black petals. Soft and wet and sticky to his fingers. Then, after some time, they become small buds. Small black rose buds with gentle, prickly thorns sprouting in his throat.

People around them find out quickly, very quickly, that Steve is experiencing Hanahaki. Everybody, sans Eddie himself, finds out they're related to Eddie—even as these black roses symbolize hatred, even as they come close to death and mourning in their meaning—they're still perfectly Eddie in color, shape, and beauty. Obviously, since nobody wants Steve to, y'know, die, they tell him to confess to Eddie.

However, Steve is faced with a secondary option at one of his doctor visits. A surgery. The petals can be removed, the thorns torn out and tossed, his lungs cleared...but his brain shocked empty of all traces of Eddie. All traces. He wouldn't know Eddie as he is now. He wouldn't know Eddie from when Dustin would ramble on and on and on about his new guy best friend. He wouldn't know Eddie as the mischievous troublemaker in high school.

And he especially wouldn't know Eddie as his childhood best friend that he drifted apart from many, many years ago. Nobody but them knows that part.

And soon, through decision, through the fear of death...Steve chooses to forget that part, too. He chooses to remove Eddie from his conscious. Every last part of him. With the decision made, the party members keep Eddie away, Robin goes through Steve's room and hides anything he has of Eddie's—including a little memory box of their childhood photographs, little trinkets he'd receive from Eddie, doodles and crushed flowers...crushed flowers that look similar to the ones Steve coughed up with a note attached to them: "For the prince to my prince. Mama said they're for royal people, and I thought they were beautiful. These are for you, because you're beautiful, too."

Steve kept all of it. Tucked neatly away for nobody but him to see. All these delicate, baby confessions of two queer kids in rural America, waiting for the right moment; though never getting that after a fall out in their relationship.

According to Eddie, the two drifted away due to rhetoric Steve's dad was spouting; rhetoric that was being passed on and spat right at Eddie's face from Steve's mouth. Even if he saw Steve change during and after Vecna, he'll always remember the last big fight in their friendship; the day he was called a queer.

When Eddie finds out, he's beyond devastated that Steve would make the choice to forget him. He gets it, Steve didn't want to die. He knows. But now he doesn't even have a spot in Steve's life? It cuts deep, it hurts.

He knows so much about Steve. Little details. Favorite things. Where his moles are. How he styles his hair. What he looked like before braces, before Tommy, before high school bullshit, before all the traumas. He knows who Steve really is, sweet and nurturing and nearly unbearably kind.

And now Steve doesn't know him. Doesn't love him.

He wishes he knew, because then they wouldn't be in this mess.

But Eddie gets to fall in love with Steve all over again. Shake his hand and introduce himself. Even though he wishes they could meet each other as kids, just like they did. Because Eddie remembers a dorky, geeky, self-conscious, timid little kid quietly asking him if they could play princes on the playground. And Steve remembers Eddie at twenty-one, full grown and stubborn; not the same shy kid, not the bubbly kid...just a man haunted.

But! Plot twist!!!

What if, yeah, Steve does forget Eddie...initially?

He meets Eddie again, for the first time. He gets to know Eddie. He begins a friendship with Eddie.

And then he begins getting these awful...awful migraines being around Eddie. Flashes of fractured, half-formed memories of some kid with big brown eyes and a shaved head, of a kid crouched down in wood chips trying to find a guitar pick he had dropped. Little glimpses of smiles: some with teeth missing, some with teeth growing back in, some with blood-stained lips, some with a blue tint. There's splintering voices, a little boy's and an older man's and a squeaky, pubescent voice—he hears his own name crackled around the edges, hears Prince Stevie cooed and King Steve snarled, soft words whispered through choking sobs and whip wild yelling.

He looks Eddie straight on at one point, his face open with concern, but all he sees is an angry, sobbing, red-faced, wet-faced little Eddie talking with Steve, "You think I'm...I'm a dirty queer? Why would you say that to me? No...no, Steve, keep your voice down, keep your voice"—and then, quieter, a whisper—"I thought I could trust you. I know I like boys, but that was a secret. You're an asshole, Steve. Go fuck yourself."

And when he blinks again, Eddie's concerned face staring back at him, all Steve does is cough and cough and cough. Eventually, he's hunched tight into himself and spitting directly into Eddie's palm. Out comes a fully formed black rose.

A bud that hadn't bloomed, that hadn't been removed. Sharp thorns and wet petals and an eye that swirls and swirls and swirls.

It all comes back to him, then, staring at that flower, floundering backwards, catching Eddie's eyes in a daze.

It all comes back to him.

How much he's always loved Eddie Munson.

Anyway, just like, a hanahaki surgery gone wrong, I guess. Like they all think it works until, y'know, it doesn't. They get close again and it floods back in. The very thing he tried to get away from.

I imagine that after Steve coughs up that fully formed rose, Eddie squishes it in his palm. The thorns cutting up his hand, the petals crushed between his fingers. And then he just...eats it. Like fully puts it on his tongue, chews it up between his teeth, and swallows the whole damn thing—yes, even the thorns. There's blood in his mouth, petals between his teeth, blood and drool on his hand.

And he lunges forward to grab Steve's face, to kiss him so roughly they could be devouring each other. And all they taste in each other are the bittersweet ghosts of black rose petals and the metallic harshness of one another's blood; Steve had hacked up blood, too, from the thorns cutting his throat.

And when they separate?

"You were the first boy I ever fell in love with," Eddie confesses, "you're the only boy I've ever loved. There's been nobody else in that place, Steve. Only you, after everything, have remained."

Okay. Now I'm done. I promise I'm done rambling. Would this be interesting as a fic? I don't know. It's fine.

[tobethemselves]

I’d love to know why Louis is ONCE AGAUN forced to stunt! WTF! Why?!!!

I understand your frustration but this is sadly the reality for a lot of closeted people in the industry. And if you look at what happens in the US and so many other countries at the moment, I think it's really clear why Louis and Harry decide to stay in the closet for now, and stunting to appear straight is part of that.

And as much as a lot of us hate it, it's a big part of the industry in general too. Not only for queer people, a lot of stars use this for several different reasons, mostly to promote a project of theirs, stay relevant and create stories that will keep their names in the press.

Apart from that I don't really see Louis or Harry being forced to do it anymore. If they are stunting now, it's definitely something they agreed on. And that doesn't mean that it's their fault, it means I think they have more ability to have a say in things since they started their solo careers.

If you want to read more about why so many stars including HL do stunts you can look through my hashtags PR STUNTS, LOUIS' CAREER and MUSIC INDUSTRY. And I also recommend reading these posts here and here.

@daisiesonafield-blog has a lot of information on her blog too, it's very organized if you go there on web.

[iphyslitterator]

https://www.tumblr.com/iphyslitterator/781529944758091776/fascinating-phenomenon-that-the-buddie-fandom-is?source=share

My theory: the buddie fandom members are more inclined to reject (and even to rebel) against something that they don't agree with (or causes them pain) and are willing to believe in any sign that may indicate that what they want is in fact happening, even if it's against all logic; while the BT fandom members seem more grounded in reality, recognizing what's happening and being able to accept it (which doesn't mean they can't manifest their disagreement), despite the pain said reality may cause.

is this an age thing (buddies skewing younger and BTs skewing older)? a cultural thing (religious background / education / literacy levels)?

I'm intrigued by this.

Yeah, I've been thinking along these lines, i.e. that it's about the dominant modes of reading in each fandom.

The most prominent Buddie shippers believe Buddie's going canon, and that involves a lot of reading between the lines: the show is sending you subtle messages, the signs are obvious to the skilled ("media literate") interpreter, of course they wouldn't spoil things in interviews. The gifset of alleged season 8 foreshadowing for Bobby's return fits right into that - attention and close reading are supposed to reveal the hidden truth.

I love the point about the tendency to reject/rebel against canon, which is linked to an investment in canon: this thing that you want isn't happening onscreen, and that's unacceptable, so therefore it will, it has to (and it's so important for it to happen, there may be no way to convince you that it won't).

Whereas the Bucktommy fandom did the exact opposite in the wake of the breakup: we both accepted canon and distanced ourselves from it. Even as more people got more hopeful for a reconciliation, our main project in the hiatus was to solidify into a fandom that could survive without the show. At the same time - and it wasn't immediately clear this would happen - we started heavily incorporating 8x06 material into our readings. The prevailing characterization of Tommy shifted significantly. We dive deep into their communication issues. We hated the episode, but we decided to take a lot of it at face value and turn it into a "better" story.

To avoid the "grounded in reality" value judgment for a minute, I'd say the Bucktommy fandom leans more pessimistic. Believing in the Buddie long game requires optimism, faith that the show is intentional and patient. Bucktommy fans are more likely to express cynicism about Tim Minear and distrust in the show; taking the text at face value/arguing that the show "isn't subtle," even if accurate, is related to the general post-breakup wariness. (It's also related to having a canon ship - we never had to excavate it, it was happening onscreen.)

Of course the Bucktommy fandom has also already coped with the sudden loss of a beloved character; a lot of us were processing a lot of grief in November, and I think even the people who were clowning early reconciled themselves to the possibility he wouldn't come back. The irony is that we were wrong, and Tommy did return! But the experience still primed a lot of us to start grieving Bobby and coming to terms with his death quickly. (It's also ironic that we're taking the press at face value, but the Peter farewell tour is so much more extensive than the Lou "exit interviews" that believing it seems like the smart/realistic/pessimistic thing to do.)

I'm unwilling to generalize about demographics without hard data, and I think we overinterpret the age thing. There are plenty of younger Bucktommy fans, and plenty of older fans with the reactions or behavior people sneer at as juvenile. I'd tentatively say the fact that many of our most prominent writers are late 30s or older has shaped the fic landscape, and the unusually high percentage of queer men has influenced the culture. But whether this has any bearing on the Bobby alive vs. dead debate, I couldn't say.

[covington-shenanigans]

18 is so young. you never know what can happen between 18 and your 30s -- your life can change you never would have anticipated. I didn't transition until I was 48 years old but I still had a pretty good life until I did and you can too. (not that you have to wait that long, but I'm just saying, you can make your life satisfying in some way until you're able to transition.)

seconding what everyone else said about surrounding yourself with good friends and other queer people irl, too! there are so many good people who you will love and who will love you, and you don't even know they exist right now. isn't that amazing?

you'll be okay, anon. I promise you there is so much life left for you yet, and one day you may be amazed at how it came together for you and how much you love being you.

I’m 18, and admittedly there’s no real hope for me transitioning until I’m in my 30s ( education, family, finance- stuff like that ). It leaves me feeling kind of hopeless a lot of the times- I don’t have the energy to be ambitious or to feel good about my future because, even optimistically, it’s another six-seven years of hell waiting for me. Existing is hard. Can’t date, can’t leave the house without wearing a jacket, can’t look in the mirror too long. At least my dysphoria doesn’t drive me to suicide, but it’s drained me in every other way possible.

So, thank you for existing. I burst into tears today when I saw your profile. Thank you for reminding me that this…isn’t my forever. I just need to pull through. Joy is waiting on the other side.

Hey, Anon. Sounds like you have a bachelors + advanced degree lined up? I hate that college is so fraught for young trans people right now, when it should be your chance to start expressing some personal freedom.

A lot can change in just a few years, and change for the better can happen faster if you plan what you can now. Part of my transition stalled simply because I was just waiting for something Good to happen to me, instead of making it happen. (Working on job skills, being responsible with my money, meeting other queer people, etc.)

If you *are* to be stuck in Limbo for a while, please don't fall back on "at least I'm not suicidal" when evaluating your mental health. I did this for 13 years, and so much of me broke down under the weight of that inertia -- my family hoarding triggered and my depression got so bad, I nearly became homeless.

If it helps, here's a timeline of my own journey:

4: knew I was a boy

20: tried to come out, didn't go well, went back in the closet

21: too depressed for grad school for my music degree, went to tech school and fell into a stagnant web career

27: dad died, stress made a lot of my mental issues worse

30: near rock-bottom, got fired from work, nearly lost my house, living below poverty line, drained retirement, credit score probably like 300, I couldn't even get a secured credit card, new BFF started abusing me

31: started dating (never went well), too poor to fix AC, power frequently shut off, hoard starting to block rooms

33: almost out of money, started HRT, lost a lot of music gigs, stuck in payday loan hell

34: found steady employment again tho at a toxic web shop, $45k/year, cleaned up my hoard for the first time

36: met my partner, lost my virginity, started hanging out with queer people

37: got AC fixed, slowly started improving home, stopped being stealth, partner moved in with me

38: told abuser to fuck off

40: got top surgery, caught up on back taxes w/the IRS, able to secure credit again

41: got out of a toxic job industry, free from payday loans, started making $80k/year in a new field

41: got married to my partner, hoard pretty under control now

45: broke 6 figures for my salary

46: left Florida, bought a house

47: got a promotion to a senior role, hit 800 credit score, home is clean and organized (except for some stalled unpacking, I'll get there...), working on rebuilding my retirement

It was really around age 37 where I made a concerted effort to plan my way out of my shitty living situation. It's also when I really embraced being queer. I wish I had managed it earlier, but I was a goddamned mess and hid a lot from my family & friends. And I didn't know how to energize myself when things felt bleak.

So, please avoid my mistakes by taking efforts to set a higher bar for your mood. Get outside in nature, make things with your hands, consume and spread queer art, try to find safe outlets for expressing and exploring your gender, and above all, create a network where you can safely vent and have folks take care of you when you need help. Stoicism goes toxic far too quickly - you're going to need to cry *and* become a shoulder to cry upon.

And then pick yourself back up and continue with your plan towards joy. I believe in you - I don't think it'll be as long as it appears. <3

[snotbuggle]

Usually when I think of Hunter, I imagine him as a fairly serious person and kind of skeptical in general situations with new people. But when he’s around the queers he just goes back to his juvenile, free spirited, frat boy self from season seven.

It’s my personal belief that Hunter just really loves gay people. And that he’s straight, maybe bisexual, but he’s more ally than any other straight man. He sees a gay person and just thinks “These bitches gay…good for them good for them.” And wanders his way over towards them to have a lovely conversation. So at the 20th anniversary celebration he saw Kallus and Zeb across the room being fruity and thought “oh! Gay people! I’m gonna go say hi!” Kallus and Zeb really liked his vibe and so they kept him around for a while during festivities.

It’s why he loves both Cody and Rex so much

I know it’s quite random and odd but it makes me smile just to think Hunter is incredibly enthusiastic about the gays

[cute-little-fly]

Why I like and relate to Helluva Boss

This post is going to be personal and introductory to me and where I stand as a fan of the show.

When I decided to make this blog I really wanted to talk and tell the world why I think this show is cool, and it’s worthy of respect, even if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Yes, is different. Yes, it’s weird. Maybe it is even cringe, if you care about that. But… I have seen that this show has been special not just for me, but for other people and I think that matters more than perfection and correctness, considering the current state of things.

You know, and it’s not just for the sake of escapism or just because okay is silly and it doesn’t matter. I mean, if that are some people’s reasons to watch it perfect! Go for it!! But, for me it is more than that.

We often make fair arguments about the show, against shallow or bad intended criticism. I read them and I think, yes, makes sense, they are overblowing silly stuff… But, the reason why we defend this show it’s because it brings us something special, and because it caters to us deeply and I think that is very important to talk about too!!

Considering that part of the reason why I talk so much about the show (besides being kinda fixated on it), it’s that for me it was unfair to see how much negative unfair stuff. So, here I have my list of (some) reasons why I like Helluva Boss. My opposite version of these kinds of posts of why I stopped liking it.

Reason 1: This show doesn’t try to cater to everyone, and THAT is a good thing!

This might be controversial, or not, but I wholeheartedly believe that the reason why most of mainstream media nowadays falls so flat and devoid of soul, it’s that they are trying too hard to cater and be liked by everyone.

That it’s just… hardly possible, and less now that public opinion and politics are so divided. I think that even the notion that things in the past were liked by “everyone” is kinda a lie… It was just because hiding queer and minorities was accepted, because all media catered to the majority and because doing the bare minimum for minorities was the standard. Also “normies” usually didn’t had much access to things like queer cinema or comics, and the internet didn’t had enough presence for this kind of people to discover those things and rant about them with other… let’s say similar people. They just had less issue with those things existing, because they were out of their sight, and there was no right wing making noise and fuzz about it.

Reason 2: I watched the show just when I was just discovering and accepting my neurodivergence, and it made me feel seen in different ways.

This show has one of the best neurodivergent coding that I have ever seen without been too on the nose, it feels natural and they just kinda exist.

At the same time, we see them struggling with things like Blitzø with his spelling, and Stolas having a hard time socializing in parties. The first time we saw Stolas in a party at the Circus I just thought… Oh man, I know what that is like. Then, I saw some people on the internet not understanding why Stolas doesn’t just… talk to people… and I thought like: What??? Then it hit me… I realized how that wasn’t a shared experience for everyone.

A lot of the things this show has are experiences of people that didn’t fit in, like neurodivergents, and that was so valuable to me and one of the main things this series touched me. So, this differences we have with other people are also not painted in a idealized way. It’s realistic, and at the same time they are unapologetically just how they are.

Reason 3: This is a labor of love, and these are rarely found in animated shows, or are cancelled.

Labour of love shows and movies need to be supported right now. I know this show won’t be cancelled or that it’s highly unlikely and that just… gives me peace to engage with it. You can say it has flaws or anything, but it is being made with love and passion. That’s undeniable.

Reason 4: Helluva Boss has male leads that display different expressions of masculinity and their romance is top tier.

You know… it doesn’t bother me that most of the leads of this show are male… because these men not are just queer, they display a varied of behaviours related to masculinity and the negative ones are not applauded.

It’s not the same to have a male focused show where male say to each other: are you going to punch like a girl? Or they just sit to watch soccer and not touch the kitchen (Blitzø is shown cooking his own meal), or are not shown as any traditional way men are according to traditional masculinity.

I always asked myself why the issue with the Helluva Boss women being not focused most times has never bothered me, considering it bothers me in other shows, and this is the exact reason.

Helluva boss men are queer, and they aren’t mysogynistic. Millie is appreciated and elevated by her boss. Moxxie is flawed and is not traditionally masculine, but his arc is about finding his own courage.

Blitzø’s initial issues with temper and treating others badly are not painted as: he is just a man and he can’t prevent it. It’s a result of his trauma and the series addresses that as a problem he needs to overcome to make fulfilled bonds with his found family and love interest.

Reason 5: The female leads are actually cool!!

They are unapologetical, they have their own agency, they have their own set of issues… so, they are both capable and relatable at the same time, the same way male leads are. Millie is shown to be very resourceful on fights. She is actually very good and Blitzø saw that on her.

I understand why fans of the Helluva Women might feel disappointed that they are less focused and less utilized in some plots. But… they are good characters.

Reason 6: The animation, The music, The aesthetic.

Self explanatory. I sing the songs in the shower sometimes.

Reason 7: The humour is quirky… a lot of the times it works with me.

You know… I don’t like a couple of jokes of the series… But, most of the times, the humor of the series works with me. Being an autistic person, I have a very weird relationship with humour. I don’t laugh at all with shows like “Arrested Development”. There are some humor that I just don’t get why it is funny, even if I understand the jokes. With Helluva Boss I manage to laugh a lot of times! I love silly humor and this series delivers that to me most of the times.

Reason 8: Helluva Boss queernes is cool and good actually.

This has been discussed before… and the only thing I want to add is that after this show, I find some common queer representation boring and insufficient. Blitzø cross dresses as if it was a normal thing and it’s not framed as: oh how funny the man looks like a woman and that is just so funny... Nah… he looks like a DIVA and serves cunt. Phrases like: Be nice to him, he is gay… show support and normalization of being queer and I find it very endearing.

Reason 9: Helluva Boss has adult drama and is silly at the same time.

I have always disliked the idea that when you grow up you are meant to not like or not engage with some things anymore… Because I am an adult, and I still like silly things. Like the way my humour doesn’t match with some adult comedies, and maybe it matches with children’s humour. Helluva Boss gives me both. Helluva Boss makes me laugh and cry. I can be a hopeless romantic and feel like a clown at the same time.

Reason 10: Helluva Boss is deep down a light hearted story with angst and some hard themes.

Interestingly when I was younger I used to look for more dark-themed stories. Distopic universes, disasters, sad and dark endings. You get it. But… recently I have to admit being enjoying more “found family stories”. Sometimes I just want to watch something safe. That makes me feel strongly? Yes, but safe too. Helluva boss is very good delivering that.

[saint-vagrant]

look no i'm not going to shut up about it. SUPERPOSE whips ass. the end can be seen on the horizon now, which is kind of crazy. it's been slow going in the past few years but our life has always been precarious, before we started in 2016 and since. and so, SUPERPOSE's life is as well. wish we hadn't experienced these setbacks, but, we're here now, on the precipice of ARC IV, the final one. we make this story because we love it, not because it's gainful work— which does not mean that it's easy. actually, all other work i do helps sustain SUPERPOSE, and in greater part we're funded by supporters/readers. so thank you! i've met a lot of really wonderful people through making it, and just as much, it means the world that people i knew before are still around to see what i'm doing now. thank you for being here!

i hope that if you like queer sci-fi about building and destroying, about struggling and starving when choices are limited or unseen rather than slick and easy, about annoying guys who're difficult to love and love to make it harder for themselves, about physics and holes (are holes a real thing? or just a place where something isn't?) that you might consider sharing it with someone.

it's the thing i always come back to, the wellspring for everything else i do. i'd love to make it to the end. and everything after 🖤

[willpressleverfordopamine]

Oh honey. Oh sweet summer child. It is very clear you have not seen the show. Then you'd understand why this is very much not queerbaiting.

Right, I'd love it if you just watched it but I'm in the mood to rant about my hyperfixation so let's!

Black Sails is a glorious, beautiful, amazing fanfiction of Treasure Island that made the most feared pirate of that book, a man who strikes fear in the hearts of the most bloodthirsty pirates even after death, this dude:

...queer. His entire motivation for every horrible, brave, reckless thing he does? That England took away his male lover. He runs away with that man's wife (cause they were a throuple) and swears vengeance on THE ENTIRE BRITISH EMPIRE.

Anyway, lots to say there but I don't want to completely spoil a show YOU SHOULD WATCH.

But is that all? Oh noooooo, it is NOT.

It is difficult to find a straight main character in this show. Eleanor Guthrie, the badass young woman who runs the entire pirate island because her dad is a failure? Bi.

That woman she's kissing? The prostitute that basically replaces her as the head of the island? Bi and in love with Anne Bonney,

the formerly male presenting wife of Jack Rackham, who... I mean, he's never had sex with a man on screen, but come on. Come on. Look at him.

Not to be stereotypical on main, but this man could be fixed by Charles Vane's dick.

(Oh yeah and Mark Reed, the historically trans man, is there too)

Anyway. When I say that the insane, twisted, codependent relationship between John Silver and James Flint is not queerbaiting, I know what I'm talking about.

The writers are not afraid of making these men queer. They are not afraid of tanking sales. They are not trying to lure queer people on a promise of homosexuality that they'll never deliver on. They are not pulling a Xena on us, they're not Destieling us, they are being fucking artists. They are making us go feral over two men who are CLEARLY fucking, if not physically, then mentally, on some higher plane of existence, and we just don't get to see it. And I LOVE THEM FOR IT.

They're balls deep in each other, your honour. I know that's not physically possible at once and while they're standing two feet apart, but that's what's happening here.

We need a name for what Black Sails did that is not queerbating because that does NOT fit it even though technically it could be called that by those who lack critical thinking and a dictionary.

It is pretty insane how the parallels are there and it's all done without a single hint apart from the writers whispering somewhere in some obscure sources.

But it's there. It's not even shipping. It is an integral part of the show.

The relationship between Flint and Silver.

It is unspoken while shouted from the rooftops. James McGraw, Thomas Hamilton and his wife Miranda. James Flint, John Silver and his wife Madi. "He is my friend too". Silver repeatedly putting himself in the same position as Thomas and Miranda. Every look, every charged moment.

The relationship existed and was deeper than we were allowed to see and that was by design. But what was the actual extent to it? Maybe the reason we're not allowed to see is the same as the reason we still don't know what happened at the end. Not knowing is better. Not knowing lets us construct our own stories, own series of events, own truths. And stories are the breath and life of Black Sails. We are all right and we are all wrong. And it doesn't matter as long as the story means something to us.

This show still makes me feral.

[dotthings]

mid-late S10 Destiel things:

Robbie Thompson in S9 introducing Cain's story and Colette followed by Robert Berens in S10 "you're living my life in reverse" is chef's kiss baton pass for the destiel long game. CINEMA!!!! Pay attention this was not accidental!!!

Dean entrusting the blade to Cas instead of handing it back to Crowley is so weighted. Crowley was the fling. His wild summer. Cas is someone he has feelings for that he trusts, in it for the long haul.

The Executioner's Song deleted scene. With Cas and Crowley taunting each other about how in love with Dean they are. "All in a desperate effort to save your boyfriend." "Maybe he's your boyfriend."

Dean's confession, which yes that is also about Dean himself and him thinking beyond just hunting and being a killer and what else he wants and bi Dean coding not just about Cas but it is also about Castiel. Now, um… recent events, uh… make me think I might be closer to that than I really thought. And…I don’t know. I mean, you know, there’s – there’s things, there’s…people, feelings that I-I-I want to experience differently than I have before, or maybe even for the first time. The priest says "Go a little deeper, perhaps", and Dean answers "Yeah. Yeah, I’m just starting to think that… maybe there’s more to it all than I thought." Dean is looking for a deeper (romantic) connection, he's bi coded, Cas is queer coded, and Cas is right there and S10 has some things going on with them. So without it taking away from Dean's individual arc and themes whatsoever. It's about Cas.

Cas getting to punch Metatron who killed Dean was very satisfying, and how interesting Metatron is still so fixated on Cas. Wants to connect with Cas. Back in S9, he dressed up in a trenchcoat, wanting to emulate him. Envies Cas. Metatron who in S9 called Cas out on how he drapes himself in the flag of Heaven but it's really all about saving Dean, asks Cas in S10, "what are you...what is your mission now" and we know the answer, and so does Metatron, we know he knows because he already said it in S9 and now he's just...taunting Cas with it. Anyway, ongoing theme of angelic resentment, and perhaps in this case even some envy, of the connection Dean and Cas have.

Dean being so happy to see Cas return to the bunker and his grace has been restored and Dean calls it a win. While Cas is practically blushing and doesn't seem to know where or how to stand or what to do with himself he's so pleased. Ugh they're so adorable!!!! And ridiculous!!!!!

Dean's subconscious--manifested as the Benny hallucination--saying it would "ruin" Cas, as well as Sam, to have to kill Dean. So some part of Dean's brain realizes how much Cas loves him (They are both close to Dean, Sam is Dean's sibling, Cas is Dean's best friend and...whatever else he is. The relationships aren't the same, they're both close).

Dean and Cas "take your daughter to work day" with Claire, Dean trying to comfort Claire by explaining that because of her father's sacrifice, Cas was able to save the world. Dean calls Jimmy Novak a "hero" but gives Cas credit for saving the world. Dean reassuring Cas "it's good. It's a good thing" that he wants to continue his atonement with the Novak family but reassuring Cas that he's not a dick (while Cas is so much harder on himself than Dean ever is). Dean and Cas bickering, Cas acting like a worried spouse about Dean, and persuading Dean to stay behind with Claire, with orders "no fighting. Both of you." Sound more married why don't you!!!!! Claire telling Dean to look after Cas...like...this girl noticed some things. That they're close. & sensed Dean cares about Cas too.

Dean being terrified that Cas will be the next one chewed up and spit out by the quest to get the mark off his arm.

Cas calling the bunker "home" for the first time

The Dean and Cas fight scene. "everyone you know, everyone you love, they could be long dead. Everyone except me. I'm the one who will have to watch you murder the world"

Given that Rowena couldn't harm Dean and how powerful the mark it, it seems unlikely Cas can actually kill MoC Dean. And instead of turning away, Cas indicates he'll be watching over Dean for all eternity, both of them immortal, and Cas having to witness Dean become that, and Cas unable to abandon Dean.

"Dean, stop" ("She loved me unconditionally. She forgave me. She only asked for one thing." "To stop.")

Cas's hand wrapped around Dean's wrist and the way Dean's hand shakes on the blade. He can't kill Cas even if he's strong enough to.

Rudy the random hunter thrown in there, just so it doesn't get too obvious that it's Cas's beaten up face that's haunting Dean the most. Dean seeing Cas's face in the mirror.

And the deleted scene from Brother's Keeper where Dean dreams about Cas. "You have an admirer."

One might ask also why invent out of the blue a backstory for Rowena involving the child she cared for more than her own son, when the grace of an angel in love with a human would have made a lot more sense to use for the mark removal spell.

[johnegbertlover413]

Alotta peoole, especially June fans, act like homestuck is ABOUT queer people, NO. ITS NOT. It never was and it was never planned to be.

Homestuck STRICTLY and obviously about ISOLATION. It’s litterly in the god damn TITLE. And of course u can be isolated because of gay but most of the characters aren’t honestly. Saving John for last,

Rose matured quickly but superficially so she doesn’t trust anyone

Dave is a horrible person so no one wants to be around him

Jane suffers constant assassination attempts to the point she can’t leave the house and falls back into Crocker corp as something safe, ending uo very skeptical (doesn’t help that Roxy, Crocker corp hater, is one of them seriously wtf)

I don’t think I need to explain the other kids

Karkats a mutant and can’t let anyone know

Kanaya is the antithesis to troll culture

Aradia fucking died and lost all feeling then was physically separated by a metal robot

Vriska has spider mom and other influences that cause her to ruin allll her relationships

Terezi has her attachment to vriska messing with her other relationships

I don’t feel like doing all of it but Even characters that don’t matter as much to the overall story have the same fuckung themeeee

Feferi has to constantly hide as to not be culled by condy to not take tha thrown

Eridan gets no hoes

I brought up June earlier because NONE OF HER “““““FANS”””””” UNDERSTAND THE SOURCE OF HER LONENES. They make it about her being transsss uwu which isn’t in the text at alllll and never will be no matter how you read into a one off line of dialogue.

It feels like they are doing it JUST to give John truama uwu because they can’t understand what makes characters sympathetic without it. Not even with out it just without them constantly whining about how much they suffer soooo much. They need to act like dad Egbert was some evil patriarcy man who forced june into a MAN NO EMOTION NO FEELING role (despite the fact he constantly pours his heart out about how much he loves John). At best theyll portray “June” as just going after her father’s role because she’s grieving and dysphoria and uhm blah blah blah or something which also is insanely retarded because it’s a straight forward lie.

But anyway it’s all ignoring the fact that JOHN EGBERT IS THE MOST AUTISTIC CHARACTER IN EXISTENCE.

I swear hussie himself could have put fucking books on autism in dads study, transcribe the whole thing, specifically specify Taht they are to Better understand John n bitches would be like “ooooooh he’s ignoring his child’s obvious gender dysphoria and blaming it on AUTISM. Classic abusive parent smh”

Lemme list out every single autistic traits n experiences show in my beatiful goddess princess Johnathan Egbert. I love lists

-he has big explosive reactions to things deemed as trivial by other characters but matter so much to him (Betty Crocker, how he thinks about his father blah blah) also referred to as tantrums by other characters despite technically not fitting the criteria and fitting in much more with melt downs (like he doesn’t liek Betty Crocker so he freaks out when a food he likes IS BETTY CROCKER)

-his reactions to more major events are much more low-key . His dad’s a business man? Curled up on the bed horrified. Dads dead? Oh no. He’s still very sad he just lashes out in other ways, the whole ship melt down n avoiding processing it by focusing on his special interests(like how he started to hate con air)

-he very clearly has special interests as mentioned last point. He rants to Kanaya (my favorite page) and meenah about Mathew McConaughey and paranormal lore respectively Not really caring/ noticing that neither of them give a fuck.

-he is really gullible like he’ll go along with what rose says and with what terezi says 1 to 1 because he doesn’t really think like that. The most obvious answer is vriska, she was 100% using him against terezi but he doesn’t really understand that EVER even when he realizes that she’s crazy he doesn’t realize that vriska was toatluu using him. Not to say vriska doesnt likeeee john ever but they basically fuckung say that their realatiojship started out as daverezi envy.

-he is the most uo front of all the kids. Not THAT Crazy for general people but he doesn’t really hide any of his emotions beyond just not being able to process them and compared to litterly every other character it’s noteable

Before yoh freaks say it I’m not saying June can’t exist because John’s autistic. YOU are just applying johns very fucking obvious traits to transness that both makes those traits miserable (his special interests and bluntness being covers or whatever) and erases johns ore existing character

Nothing wrong with having a non cannon head cannon you don’t have to make it retroactively cannon! Stop eith the delusions !!!

[hcneymooners]

hello, hello.

i've been debating making this post, but i’ve been thinking a lot about how my work often references God, religion, faith in general, and all the things in between. as someone raised in both the south and caribbean culture, i thought maybe this could be helpful for others trying to navigate queerness and religion—especially the mess and clarity that come with deconstruction.

note: this isn’t meant to tell anyone how to feel about faith or how to navigate their own path—this is just what’s been true for me. if it helps even one person feel a little less alone or a little more seen, then that’s enough. read with grace, take what you need, and leave the rest behind.

for a long time, i aimed to be good. good at school. good to people even when it meant letting them take advantage of me. i convinced myself that as long as i was pure, i would be okay. that it was that simple, and that somehow, i’d figured it out before anyone else. but i didn’t account for anger. or desire. or being a lesbian. what did lana say in that one song? “we had a deal and i fucked it up when / i made the decision to become someone.” so here's a little of my survival guide. for context, i was raised roman catholic.

first comes the work of reshaping the imagery. i released the God of my childhood and awakened the God of my womanhood. i began to replace “him” with “her,” then “Him” with “Her.” i already know some might see that as blasphemous, but it made praying easier which was something i wasn’t ready to lose. the universe is God to me. the universe is love, and so is God, and so i trust Her. She is Him, and He is Her. the universe, to me, can also be a woman who has big eyes and a dark face and makes me feel like i might be staring into myself. it’s easier to come back to God when i picture it differently. when i strip the man to the bone and rebuild into the woman i see, it’s so much easier to pray. she feels like my mother.

"offline or online, i am still connected." i think that’s how i feel about faith; i’m still connected to believing in something. it’s just that what i believe has changed and expanded. it doesn’t harm me. it helps me return to myself and shows me the way home. it’s easier to pray to Mary when i’m scared on a plane, to tell her that i know i’ll make it through because she wouldn’t place me in something i could not get through.

an altar can be anywhere. i used to feel guilty about not having a bible verse in my bio or the bible app on my phone. but i don’t need those things to make my prayer real. you don’t either. your love will pour out and stain the feet of the God before you, and They will wipe your mouth. They will understand that it’s prayer.

physicality. this was important to me when i was unpacking the feeling of being wrong or impure. if the universe condensed into one person, i’d ask her to lie down with me. we’d be pressed knee to knee and leg to leg. i’d think of her hips on top of mine, wide and inviting like the moon. i guess we are naked if i take a step back, but it’s not at all sexual. it’s just the understanding that she is holding me. babying me. and i’ve always wanted someone to. i will feel her touch me, and i’ll try to say thank you, because gratitude has been engraved in me. my mouth will move and nothing will come out, but she'll hear me.

the talking can be constant if you need it to be. i’m always speaking to God, about God, my understanding of it. it’s not organized. i haven’t constructed anything bigger than myself. restructuring kind of feels like waking up tangled in a spider’s web and standing carefully, your feet sticky as you navigate the threads. i took care not to break some of them but snapped others, creating space for new weaving. God becomes synonymous with the world, and you will find faith everywhere.

others may judge, but stick to what works for you.

another realization: it never really leaves you, and that’s fine. it’s also fine if you want to hold on.

sometimes faith blends. i work with water and have my crystals, listen to protection frequencies, and still buy my virgin Mary candle in all of its pink and radiant glory to light in the bathroom. i pray every time i board a plane, after a nightmare, or whenever a wave of unease hits. each time, it’s a Hail Mary.

also: resources. my God, find people who interpret with grace. below are some of my favorite blogs.

has content about faith: @ginwhitlock, @boykeats, @ohholydyke, ethel cain when she was active and i'm being so serious. has content that has made me see the world differently & renew faith in myself: @podencos @watermotif @cocainejuul @kristina100000 @eatpussypraylove @chloeinletters @anxeious

most importantly, i’m taking your hand until you can hold your own. i’m looking at you, because i really mean this: there is nothing wrong with you. you were nine. or thirteen. or fifteen. or twenty-one. or twenty-three. or. i’m saying it because i’d have given anything to hear that back then.

it would’ve been Heaven to me.

if you want to reach out, my inbox and messages are always open.

love you.

allyson. x

[thealexchen]

I am unsure how to feel about Lost Records after I finished it. I love the characters so much but the supernatural elements were really lost on me.

I wish the supernatural stuff wasn't real, or was left vague as to whether it was real or not. I know this idea would change a lot about the game but I love the idea of this story we're being told is the way Kat copes with her illness and trauma, Inventing this magical force that allows her and her friends to feel more empowered

I totally get what you mean. It's disappointing and frustrating yet again to see Dontnod fumble the last half of their game, but I'm sure was infinitely more frustrating for them to work with a limited budget. People comparing this game to LiS have to remember that LiS1 was published and essentially sponsored by Square back in 2015, while Lost Records is basically an indie game with an indie budget because it's entirely self-made and self-published by Dontnod Montreal. I could tell that a lot of content in Tape 2 was cut and the remaining scenes were bizarrely and awkwardly condensed. For example, Autumn is shoehorned back into the main story for the raid on the ranch, going from mad at Kat for hiding her illness to agreeing to her plan in the span of five minutes. The most egregious example for me is after an entire game building up to the why of Bloom & Rage promising to never see each other again, it all comes down to... because Kat said so. Apparently she can read the Abyss's "mind"(?). Or, if Kat is dragged into the Abyss, because SWANN said so?? I have no idea where she could've pulled the "Kat would've wanted us to forget and split up even though we were literally her only real friends and we wished to stay together!" line of reasoning from.

That being said, I've learned from LiS that Dontnod (more specifically Michel Koch and Jean-Luc Cano) were never interested in creating lore for their games, because they're all about characters and story first and foremost. LiS1 worked so well narratively because you could interpret Max's rewind as an extended metaphor for her indecision and the catalyst for her character arc. An extremely unconfident, self-doubting, indecisive teenager seemingly gets the perfect superpower, but it backfires horrendously over the course of the story, and she slowly gains the agency and strength to make the ultimate choice at the end of the game that she can't take back. The writers don't consider LiS to be sci-fi, but rather a coming-of-age contemporary drama with "a twist of the strange."

I think people's enjoyment of Lost Records comes down to whether they’re more invested in the characters or the narrative. Tape 1 doubled down even more on the character and relationship building, nostalgia, and coming-of-age themes from LiS1, and there were no major freeze-frame big choices. You have to suspend disbelief for certain things to really get in the moment, like the entire dance scene in the cabin, where DN amps up the magical, surreal, indie-film imagery even more. I have mixed feelings about the sequel hook at the end too, because it's still possible Dontnod is still cooking and plans to flesh out the lore in a future game, but there's no guarantee they'll have the budget to craft a satisfying follow-up.

I agree that it's disappointing that the writers dropped the ball and seemed uninterested in explaining the supernatural elements in this game, but I do believe that they were very consistent with their characterization from beginning to end. If you look at this game as a story about a group of closeted queer girls who find belonging, acceptance, and community in their love for each other (platonic and romantic), where the supernatural elements just enhance the magic and terror of that unforgettable summer, as well as compel them to reunite as adults and prove that it's never too late to reconnect or start over, then I think they nailed it. If you want to read the Abyss as a narrative tool for Kat to cope with her illness, I think Michel and Jean-Luc (and Nina and Desiree) would gladly welcome that interpretation. In any case, this is Dontnod finally getting to make a game exactly how they want to, without any contracts or meddling from higher-ups, so at least we got to see that.

Thanks for sending this ask!

[fishermon]

Would people crucify me if I said I really love Graves/Soap as a ship?

Like, there's so much angst you could do with it. Graves cares so deeply about his shadows, and what if he and Johnny started dating, what if Johnny became an honorary shadow. He becomes one of Graves' boys and Graves genuinely loves him. Sure maybe the relationship started as a way to get intel, a way to ingratiate Graves with the 141, to get deeper in their ranks. But somewhere along the lines he genuinely falls in love.

Johnny was patient and kind and clever, and pushed when he needed to, when helping Graves unpack his internalised homophobia. Johnny was raised catholic but had very much unpacked the bad shit that had left him with. He still considered himself Catholic, but he didn't practice it the way most people did. His catholicism was a kind of folk catholicism. Graves was raised southern baptist and only thought he was past what being raised that way had taught him because he didn't go to church anymore.

He still shakes like an abused dog the first time Soap kisses him.

Soap doesn't mind, though, he gets it, he was the same way the first time he ever kissed another man. He knows how to comfort Graves, he knows how to help him wrap his head around it and he refuses to let Graves push himself too far too fast in an attempt to save face in front of Soap.

Because the differences in their ages gets to Graves a bit too. Johnny's young, he's happy, he's confident in himself and his relationships and sexuality, and Graves is just past 40, but somehow he is the one stumbling through and messing everything up like he's thirteen and just kissed a girl behind the chapel for the first time after skipping Sunday school. Graves hates feeling so out of his depth. It should be the other way round! He's the older one of the two of them, he should be the one who knows what he's doing, the one with experience guiding Johnny through it... But he isnt.

Johnny's already unpacked his religious trauma and guilt while Graves just let it sit and simmer.

Johnny never makes him feel stupid, though. He never judges the stupid questions Graves asks, never makes fun of him for trying something and having it just not work out the way he thought it would.

Johnny makes him feel well and truly loved and appreciated.

Graves almost forgets why they got into a relationship in the first place, until he gets the order that they're going to be moving forwards with the mission, setting the next phase in motion within the month.

It feels like the floor got ripped out from under him. Graves spends the first day after getting the news in shock as he realises what he's going to have to do, then he spends the second day trying desperately to figure out a way to get around this. A way to make sure Soap doesn't get hurt. A way to make sure Soap doesn't realise Graves has been silently betraying him and the 141 from the start.

A way to make sure he doesn't lose Soap in any sense of the word.

He knows it's not possible to keep the 141 from finding out, and it's not possible to make sure Soap doesn't get hurt unless he can get Soap to switch sides.

So he starts planting the seeds, trying to subtly influence Soaps feelings, his loyalties, so that when the time comes he can hold his hand out and ask Soap to come with him, and he will.

He gets to that time, though, he holds his hand out, and Soap refuses.

Graves' whole plan, the future he let himself think they could have together, falls apart right then and there, and he can't do anything but order his Shadow's to do what they'd already been briefed to do. He can't do anything but watch them hunt Soap down, hoping to the god that Soap had helped him believe in, the real god, the good and kind and just god who loved all of his children including the queer ones, that no one would catch Soap, that he'd get away.

[swiftiesdestiel]

For the people who have byler doubt/have byler anxiety (which i doubt u do after the leaks we’ve just gotten, but still)

Here’s some stuff that basically confirms byler endgame (imo):

1. The fact that the build up/possibility already exists. Like why would there be a whole ass buildup if byler ends up not being endgame after all (unless it’s queerbait but i sincerely doubt it).

2. The mileven breakup scene is quite happy & kind of celebrates the fact that el broke up with mike and gets to be her own person, however the byler rain scene/fight scene/“break up” scene is much more sentimental and dark, which makes it seem a lot more sad but also a little more important in regards to mike’s storyline.

3. The scene where max sits in front of will and mike (who are in the trunk) and her RAINBOW sleeves perfectly line up with mike and will behind her. Coincidence? I think not

4. The fact that basically all promo posters are mike w will (or the love triangle as a whole) and NOT mike alone w el, which would be the more logical marketing choice if they were the “main” endgame couple.

5. Some tweets of the official stranger things account/netflix account are…….. interesting, to say the least (& they’re hinting at byler/mike being queer a lot!!!!)

6. The way they REDREW that fuckass stick figure drawing el made in the last s4 ep so that it liked up perfectly for both el and byler, implying that el could know something about byler or at least that there’s something going on between them !

7. Mike’s behaviour in s3/s4……. Like c’mon either the writers absolutely hate his guts (& us) or they made him a queer teenager struggling with internalized homophobia while being in love with his best friend who returns those feelings, aka one of the best written characters ever.

8. Sharing glances is a common thing in stranger things, as well as with byler (because they don’t have to communicate with words, they just understand each other because they know each other so well), however mileven has absolutely no shared glances like that. (Idk if this counts as proof, but it was something I noticed and thought it was worth mentioning)

also, we know that el needed the verbal confirmation of mike loving her. She couldn’t see it through his actions, so she needed to hear it from himself.

9. (possible spoilers, if you don’t want to read this just skip to the last point :) —> according to leaked pictures we’ve seen, they’re literally sharing clothes next season .Can they possibly be more couple-y

10. The many, many, many parallels between byler and canon couples

Just like last time, this is just me pointing things out so take it with a grain of salt, but I personally think this is all solid byler endgame proof unless we’re getting queerbaited (which, again, I doubt because the duffers are smart and I just simply do not think there will be any queerbaiting in this show. But what do I know)

Thanks for listening to my ted talk🙏

[dearweirdme]

To the anon with the statement, "But not because of his dating rumors but because he has a bunch of fans who cannot respect his own choices but instead go ahead to make up their own stories to fill into the gaps they created in something that was so easy to understand."

This right here. This is exactly the example of heteronormativity that we keep talking about. The fact that you think that us claiming Tae and JK are together is "filling the gaps" in the whole Taennie theory. When in reality it's absolutely the opposite. Tae and JK's story is lonngggggg and Taennie's is a blip on the radar. Almost nonexistent.

You're saying that we're misreading things because of one PR walk? And that years and years of footage, clues, and signs of Taekook being together are just nothing? Taehyung, Jungkook and ever the members have alluded/hinted on COUNTLESS occasions they are possibly together. Not to mention Tae's many hints at being queer. And yet WE are the ones who aren't respecting Taehyung?

You people always say that we WANT Taehyung and JK to be together. You act like it's some huge f*cking manipulation when we talk about them. Come ON. I'm a taekooker because I see something in them. Not because I wanted to, but because I just did and still do. If I saw actually believable evidence that this wasn't the case, I'd listen. But the Taennie walk just wasn't it.

Just because you want Taehyung to be straight and believe the most obvious PR stunt to be true, doesn't make it real. If anything, that makes you in the wrong. For assuming Taehyung's entire identity over a publicity stunt. Why is it SO unbelievable for him to not only be queer but to be dating someone he's been extremely close with for years? As opposed to a woman we've seen him with one time in a PR walk and has otherwise shown no interest in. Oh right, because being straight is the default right?

And the defense is often, "well they have to hide their relationship." Umm okay, and that's what we often say about why Taekook can't be more open and yet people always tear us down for that point. As if a gay relationship that's hidden is so much more unbelievable than a straight one?

I'll never say for sure that Taehyung is 100% in fact queer or 100% in fact in love with Jungkook. But if you look at his behavior, his words, his actions with an open mind, you wouldn't view us as so crazy for seeing something more between him and JK. Questioning if someone is queer isn't some horribly offensive thing either. Being queer isn't a bad thing and it's weird to get so offended by the idea of your faves being not straight.

Louder anon!