#911 discourse

[blissfullybuddie]

Guys this may sound crazy, but what if one of the reasons that Christopher was sent to live with his grandparents was to show that Buck and Eddie’s relationship didn’t revolve solely on their connection with him. Like they obviously both love and care for Chris, but it’s a testament to their bond with one another— even if Chris is gone their connection doesn’t falter… I also think that for Eddie, Christopher may play a role in his feeling realization. Imagine Eddie finally confronting his parents and having the ability to talk with Chris face to face for the first time since the incident. Then, Chris is like “well what about Buck” and Eddie is like “what do you mean?” And Chris is like “he’s family, we can’t just abandon him”.

[mid-knight-black]

Do you…

…sometimes…

…think about how…

…Maddie was an only child…

…for 3 minutes and 17 seconds?

[because I do think about this often 🫠🫠🫠]

[nqueso-emergency]

What am I supposed to do? Honestly?

I stopped posting screenshots unless they were racist or homophobic. I've stopped posting the worst anons I get. I try to share bucktommy posts. I try to post things about why I believe bucktommy will get back together. I have never gone against the ToS here on Tumblr, and I know that because I'm still here.

I'm asked to prove my skin color? I'm told that I send all these fucking asks to myself??

I'm told I'm sick in the head... for what exactly?? I only post shit that's public.

People wanted me dead during the fires. I had to up my medications because of all the things people send me on here.

Something I haven't shared but will: someone sent a fucking pizza addressed to me with the words 'BUDDIE CANON' written inside the box to one of the houses I used to live in. I sold it to my friend, which ultimately had them be doxxed.

I'm honestly exhausted, and I really don't know if I want to do this anymore.

I might just start sharing fandom stuff and ignore the rest of the drama because they're in for major disappointment anyway.

[stolenkissesdiaz]

tommy calling buck ‘evan’ during their entire relationship and the first, and only time, he calls him buck is after he breaks up with him. eddie calling buck ‘evan’ only once and it was when he gave buck his goddamn son. the only time tommy called him buck was before leaving and the only time eddie called him evan was when he gave buck proof of him and chris staying. of them wanting buck. of them keeping buck. id say “which could meaning nothing!” but it actually means everything.

[madlori]

On rewatch, one of the things that struck me about Buck and Tommy's interactions in 8x05, apart from the often-mentioned implied comfort levels and caretaking, is that Buck is no longer in awe of Tommy.

When he first met him, he was this Cool Guy. A Cool Guy Buck wanted to get to know. At the harbor tour, at the basketball game, in the loft scene, on their first date - Buck's a bit starry-eyed. He's got a whiff of hero-worship and I'm-not-worthy about him, he's talking about Tommy's confidence and his cleft to his sister in giggly tones like he's got a big old crush, which he does.

It maybe starts to ease up a bit on the coffee date, where he's treating Tommy more like someone who could be a partner to him.

By the time we see them in 8x05, that transition's complete.

Buck's not in awe of this guy anymore. And that's a good thing. Not that he doesn't think Tommy's cool anymore, but...they're past that. Tommy's not this unreachable Hot Pilot Firefighter that Buck's swooning over. He's his boyfriend. His partner. His everyday, shows up for him, comfortable in his home, boyfriend. He's seen Tommy drool in his sleep, seen his morning hair, smelled him when he needs a shower. Tommy's seen him sweaty from a workout, splattered with the latest cooking mishap, tripping over his own feet.

Tommy's no longer a guy Buck's trying to be cool around, trying to be what he thinks Tommy wants, trying to say just the right thing. He doesn't have to be cautious anymore. He's being himself. He's pouting. He's rambling about curses. He's saying "Oh, so I am gross!" petulantly. He doesn't even seem self-conscious to have Tommy see him with boils all over his face (but he's grumpy not to be getting kissed).

He's not worried about impressing this guy anymore. He's past the point where he needs to be on his best behavior. It's done. Tommy's impressed. He's all in. They both are.

[iluvyoubuddy]

"Tommy is nothing"

Tommy is the only other canon gay male character after Josh that we've seen since Michael and David left

Tommy was Buck's bisexual awakening and that will ALWAYS be important

Tommy haunted the narrative after he left AND Buck kept on stress baking which is something we haven't seen with any of his love interests, not even with Abby

And, most importantly, Tommy sure isn't nothing to all the queer ppl who saw this flawed character who grew to be a better person and had major baggage similar to what a lot of us go through and was able to relate to him on a personal level

In conclusion: Tommy is NOT nothing. Not to the narrative and especially not to us

Thank you for coming to my Tedtalk

[tevanbuckley]

leaked footage from the 911 writers room (2024)

[imakatperson22]

Yes, I ship Buddie.

Yes, I ship Tevan.

[tiny-sassy-aggressive]

When Buddie becomes canon, Christopher will be giving the shovel talk to Eddie, not Buck and nobody can change my mind

[perfectlysunny02]

i lied, put your clothes back on. we're going to talk about how evan buckley was completely in the right to sue bobby and the department after bobby wouldn't let him back after the ladder truck bombing and how they wouldn't have offered him any money or tried to settle outside of court if he wasn't going to win that case, and the way everyone treated him afterwards was disgusting and exactly what's wrong with our workforce in this day and age.

[mid-knight-black]

There is something so heartbreakingly beautiful about Chris comforting his Buck 🥹

[we always talk about how much Buck cares about Chris but we don’t talk enough about how much Chris loves Buck 😭😭😭]

[nqueso-emergency]

Can I just say, as someone who has been in fandoms and shipping mlm couples for longer than some of these bobs have been alive, that buddie is not a good enough ship to be this rabid over. It is a mediocre ship. Ship who you want, but bullying people over a c-tier ship is wild.

This

[louferrignojrofficial]

real.

[ranbling]

I'm sick of all the posts about how we "never saw Buck being heartbroken or pining for lost love". I am begging you to watch the whole series. The first half of s2 is about Buck being heartbroken and pining for lost love! Abby still haunts the narrative. Do not dismiss the importance of Abby and all the relationship Buck had before just to elevate Tommy. Or just say you're a misogynist, who can't seem to understand the importance and impact of women

[stolenkissesdiaz]

i hope buck, eddie and shannon are haunting helena through chris rn. i hope when chris rolls his eyes and snarks back helena freezes reminding her damn well who his father is. i hope when chris bites the inside of cheek and is suddenly really interested in his hands when he’s nervous about something helena scrunches her eyebrows in confusion bc she swears she’s seen it before and her eyes widen as she recalls eddie’s friend, the same friend who was there when they picked up chris, having the same mannerisms when eddie and his team came to texas. i hope when chris asks for the ice cream from the store 45 minutes from their house near the park and he picks rocky road helena swallows roughly bc shannon would do the same when she missed eddie and/or was sad. i hope she’s violently reminded no matter how much she pretends, that child will never be hers in the way she’s so desperately been trying to make it be for years. i hope she’s reminded of her damn place in chris’ life.

[madlori]

On Tommy and narrative threads

So some fans who are vehemently anti-Tommy frequently use the talking point that they need to have Buck confront Tommy about his past behavior while under Gerrard, or have him find out about it if he doesn't already know, and that he should break up with him about it. Or they need some kind of reckoning to happen with Hen and Chim in order to move forward.

I'm 95% sure neither of those things are going to happen, and here is why: the show considers that narrative thread to be closed.

It has run its course. It's done. It's been resolved. As fans and viewers - and as many of us are fic readers and writers - we always want to see things hashed out onscreen in exhaustive detail but that's not practically possible. The narrative sometimes has to signal that threads are resolved in other ways, in the way characters act towards each other and speak about each other.

Throughout the course of the three Begins episodes in which he appears, the writers clearly selected Tommy to represent the "firefighter who acted kinda jerky but got better through personal growth and friendship with new people" narrative. By the end of Bobby Begins Again, this narrative is more or less complete, as we've now seen Tommy act to support Hen and also be accepted into a friendly relationship with both her and Chim, not to mention Bobby. When he reappears in season 7, nobody acts like he's anything other than a friend, and Chim outright admires him.

This is the conclusion of this thread, as far as the show is concerned. Did he ever sit down with Hen and Chim and make some big speech or have some big discussion about how he's learned and changed? Probably not. Those kinds of direct conversations sometimes do happen in reality, but more often than not, you just spend years working with someone and your opinion of them shifts as all of you change. And remember, Hen and Chim worked with Tommy for years before Bobby even showed up.

And ask yourself this question: if Hen and Chim have both moved on, and have accepted whatever direct or implicit apology Tommy offered, how is it Buck's business to decide that no, that's not good enough, HE'S going to demand some kind of restitution on their behalf? That's patronizing as fuck. These are people with their own agency who don't need Buck to advocate for them and exact some kind of retroactive revenge for something they're not even mad about anymore. Would he be upset that Tommy ever made off-color remarks, or was less than welcoming to people who are now his friends? Maybe. Is he upset that Eddie nearly killed a man? Is he filled with moral outrage and disappointment that Hen cheated on her wife? Chim physically assaulted him, and so did Bobby. Is he still holding that against them? Is he upset NOW that nobody's speaking up on HIS behalf when Gerrard targets him? Buck's an adult. He knows that people frequently look back on their past behavior and cringe at what jerks they were, himself included.

Tommy has several times alluded to being ashamed of his past actions. He knows the score. The message we're meant to take from those comments is that he's taken steps to not be that guy anymore. Need he flagellate himself forever? Does this need to cost him and Buck a relationship they both value? It can't have been easy to come from a terrible father, go into the army, then into the LAFD with a terrible captain, and then to meet people who challenged your behavior and made you want to be a better person. The fact that he became a better person is something he should be admired for, not punished.