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This is just…ridiculous Jdjdjd JK!!!! 🫠🥹
Hi anon!
He’s just like all of us 🥰.
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#i am so mad right now#at my ex#who is once again completely unable to put our child first#and going against what we both agreed on#and it’s once again up to me to fix things#and i can’t even really show how upset i am#because I don’t want my kid to think badly about his dad#sorry for dumping#i’m just so upset right now#it will be fine#I’ll figure it out#again#i’m so disappointed though#personal
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I don't even care about the Hello Kitty plushie but the jkker anon is insane for suggesting that jimin and jk singing songs together in the military showers is sexy or whatever. There are men who spent months in jail for having sexual relationships with other men during their service. Like do they think the military is some honeymoon or what ?
Not to mention that those showers are likely not for jimin and jk alone so are they having threesomes and group sex there ? Lol
Hi anon!
It’s such disregard of reality. They are truly incapable of putting themselves into actual queer shoes.
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Jkkers think Jk and Jm are in a queer relationship in the military together serenading eachother in communal showers with other soldiers who have had to leave their significant others at home and still can't fathom how vulnerable that makes them or dangerous that implication would be for them but tkkers are the crazy ones for finding the Hello Kitty plushy connection sweet. There is really no point arguing with them.
Hi anon!
Jm and Jk enlisting together should have been a big clue on them not being together. I truly feel Jkkrs are stuck in a fanfic here (nothing wrong with fanfics, but you shouldn’t be stuck in them). There was a point when I felt it important to see different points of view, but when the point of view is based on insanity there’s really no use for it.
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Different anon here…
I understand that people use context and common sense to interpret situations, and I agree that everyone fills in gaps to some extent but it’s important to recognize when interpretations might be more about personal biases or wishful thinking than objective reality.
You mentioned that Taekook’s history is different from Hobi and Tae’s, which is why one interaction might mean something different than the other. But isn’t that subjective? How do you definitively know what their interactions mean? It’s not like these are people you know personally. Without concrete evidence, isn’t it possible that what you’re seeing could be influenced by your own perspective rather than actual intent or meaning?
You said the whole Hello Kitty thing is not taking things too far but objectively it is because people are filling in gaps and treating it like facts. You don’t realize how harmful this is. Why do you think there are jikookers who despise Tae and Taekookers who despise Jimin? It is because they filled in gaps and then found reason to hate on them even though none of them has ever spoken ill of the other. People start filling in gaps and then going full force believing in those things and then when things turn out differently tomorrow how do you think they would react? What amount of damage do you think it would do even to the artists? There are obsessive fans out there who go as far as harassing members’ loved ones when things don’t work how they thought it would. It is always good to keep a healthy dose of skepticism. What if this interpretation is an example of seeing meaning where there might not be any? It’s easy to connect dots when we want something to fit a narrative, but sometimes those connections exist only in our minds and you don’t seem to realize how real confirmation bias is.
I think it’s necessary to ask yourself if you are truly observing what’s there, or projecting what you want to see? That distinction is crucial for staying grounded and avoiding over-interpretation. That’s all I’m saying.
Hi anon!
This is a very difficult thing to lay out, and I think where you are missing the mark is by making this a shipping issue. Imo it’s a fandom issue that also takes place in shipping spaces. If you look at solo spaces and Y/n spaces you will also find these things. I very much believe in personal accountability and I think every hateful remark is an individual’s decision to be awful. If me saying the Hello Kitty is special to Jk because of Tae makes someone send hate to Tae, Jk, or Jm.. that’s on them.
I also think you don’t understand how we are invited to fill in the gaps. That’s basically what the entertainment business is about when it comes to making fandom connect to their artists. I mentioned this before, but Jkk is actually a very good example of the company’s marketing strategy. I can’t actually blame Jkkrs for believing their ship, because they have basically been given reasons to do so. You can certainly argue about whether that’s a fair marketing strategy, but it absolutely is one and it’s one that’s used in probably every kpop group.
It’s also not as if members only get hate because of things we deduce. They get hate for the things they actually clearly do and say. Tae only has to mention Jk randomly and he will be called an attentionseeker. That is not because Tkkrs come up with stuff, that is because some just love hating on him. Jk and Tae smoke and get hate.
Let’s look at some shipping related issues to work through this. Jk got a lot of hate comments on his insta due to Jm’s dad using Jkk. I personally find it distasteful, but I do not feel it’s up to fans to send hate because of this. It’s up to Jk, Tae and Jm to deal with this. If they are fine with Jm’s dad making money out of Jkkrs, then my thoughts are just that I find it distasteful but it’s their business.
Another example is the hate Tae got for being in AYS. Jkkrs had no business complaining because clearly it’s been something both Jm and Jk wanted to happen.
Jm gets hate for touching Jk. Again, I feel that’s for them to deal with and for fandom to trust that these men know each other well enough to handle each other.
On filling in the gaps…. As long as we’re clear about these being our thoughts and not us actually speaking for a member, I think we’re good. I think we actually do follow what Tae and Jk themselves say a lot. My thoughts are that us shipping Jk and Tae is also very much an issue because of them being two men. I will never apologize or feel bad about thinking two men love each other.
I have never sent a hateful tweet or comment in my life. So I can’t really relate to people who have? I don’t know what motivates them? I’ve been on the receiving end of hateful messages and I think people maybe just take fandom issues too personally at times. They feel as though a member is theirs or an extension of themselves perhaps? So when I say something about Jm that a Jkk doesn’t like.. they feel personally attacked and their reaction is to send me hate. Personally I separate fandom shenanigans from BTS members. I don’t see Jkkrs as an extension of Jm at all. I don’t even agree with all Tkkrs just like many will not agree with me. But it’s not personal and (though I have certainly scolded people on here) it’s never something I feel justifies sending hate for. You can choose how to respond to things you don’t like.
#taekook#fandom shenanigans#adhd is high today#so if i am all over the place that’s why#i feel like i have more to say on this#but i can’t collect my thoughts 🙈
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You say, “There’s Jkkrs making up romantic stories about Jm and Jk singing in the shower while at the base due to Jk’s live.. come on.”
JK did say that he and Jimin sing a specific romantic song together everyday when they shower together. He said it. It’s not made up. And you think it’s weird that JKKs find this potentially romantic? You are certain that this is merely their daily platonic nude water-based singalong. On the other hand, a (matching? single?) Hello Kitty stuffy is the height of romance and indicates a deep intimacy and a fiery passion.
Daily naked duets = nothing burger. Matching (or a single) kitty stuffy = insane sexual chemistry and a soul bond.
I mean… this is what it means to be a TKKr, right?
Don’t do it Rain…. Stay chill…. Do not entertain the madness….
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Mumbles about lockerroom culture… mumbles more about them being at the military base in a public shower area…. mumbles even more about a total lack of reality here.
Go experience life anon.
#the total insanity#butbthanks for giving a prime example of how out of touch all of you are#that’s it for the jkkrs in my inbox once more#straws as big as trees
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The truth is that you are still filling in gaps no matter how small you think they are. I don’t know if there is something I am missing but what is the big deal about Jk and Tae having the same plush? They are friends so even if it turns out that the plush is indeed from Tae or from Hawaii so what? Even if they bought it together so what? Shipping aside do you people sometimes just take a step back and just see that before anything else you think they are to each other they are friends to each other first? Tae has two plushies, pink and blue on his couch in his house that we have seen with Hobi. Those plushies are displayed in his living room but I am certain this is something many of you don’t know and even if you do you don’t think it is a big deal. If someone were to try to connect those plushies to vhope I am sure your answer would be what is strange about friends having plushies right? You wouldn’t start looking at Vhope like they are in a romantic relationship because of that even though just like Taekook Vhope too vacationed in Hawaii with their families. Tae said after his album was done the first person who heard it was Jhope. These are some things that are used to explain why you people think Taekook is real. But the same things are happening with Tae and others.
Anon says you people are not filling the gaps but you are because the fact remains that you do not have all the context so anything else you are saying is speculation not fact. There are over a thousand reasons why both of them could have the same plush which doesn’t include them being lovers. I remember last year when Jk wore a necklace that had a ring attached to it. The exact same one Jimin had worn in the past and jikookers were convinced that it meant something but someone asked jk on live and he said he took it home after a stylists dressed him up for a shoot. It’s not like there is no connection at all with Taekook in the first place because they are literally friends, members of the same band and idols so there are a thousand plus reasons why they could have similar stuff. No offence but I feel like most of you need to step away from shipping for a bit because if shipping clouds your sense of judgement so much that you see almost everything these people do as romantic, that is a problem.
Hi anon!
What am I supposed to do with an ask like this? You have not understood my answers. Things make sense because of the context they take place in. Taekook’s history is very different from Hobi and Tae’s history. That is why one might mean something and the other means something else. I don’t understand why this is difficult to understand.
But also, as if non-shippers don’t also fill in gaps? People always fill in gaps. You fill in gaps in your everyday life. You do so by using common sense. It just gets crazy if you take it too far, which isn’t the case at all with Hello Kitty.
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Also...how much stuff are we really adding to fill the gaps? Taehyung went to Hawaii to shoot Type 1 and in one of the photos, he has a plush rainbow Hello Kitty. Jungkook films a GCF and a rainbow Hello Kitty plushie is seen in the background. Upon further inspection, they seem to be the same as their patterns match. Then we find out that Jungkook actually was with Taehyung in Hawaii when Type 1 was shot. I feel like the most logical conclusion here is at the very least they bought them together (if they think they aren't the same) or Jungkook just took the one Tae used. There's no reaching, no real elaborate theory going on. This is all seems like very natural dot connecting and I think it would require more work to prove that they aren't related at all. I think it's odd to act like we all have our tinfoil hats on in this case lol
Hi anon!
I very much agree! It’s just funny how people were quick to go ‘it’s Jk’s girlfriend’s’ when they saw it in the GCF and when it turns out it’s connected to Tae people can’t wait to debunk it (sure, it’s different for Jkkrs). I think Hello Kitty being from when Jk visited Tae in Hawaii makes things more difficult for Jkkrs… because while Hello Kitty in itself is no proof.. it’s certainly connected to a time when Jk did not spend time with Jm (didn’t even call) but he flew to Hawaii when Tae missed him after having just seen him.
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Hi anon!
I cut out the blogmention, but for everyone reading… it’s a jkkr explaining the Hello Kitty situation.
First of all, I’ve personally come to a point where I just can’t take anything Jkkrs say seriously anymore. These are people who think Jk and Jm enlisting together is a show of their commitment. These are people )this particular blogger included) who think AYS was Jkk reconnecting after having gone through a rough time. So for them to call us out on adding stuff to fill in the gaps when that is truly all Jkkrs ever do is highly laughable and hypocritical imo. There’s Jkkrs making up romantic stories about Jm and Jk singing in the shower while at the base due to Jk’s live.. come on.
I am sure there are Tkkrs who take the Hello Kitty into elaborate romantic stories as well. That’s not what I have seen on here however. To us it’s just a clear connection between Tae and Jk that is just piled onto all the other smaller stuff that in total makes Taekook’s context. Sure you can try to explain away that connection by saying there is no proof that the Kitty connects Tae and Jk, but odds are crazy high that it is in fact the same Hello Kitty. Jk said his house was still not sorted out entirely, but the Hello Kitty sat in it’s place. It’s just funny the bendes people try to do when it comes to Tae and Jk. Like, you can just say Jk got that Kitty from Tae at Hawaii and it’s a cute sign of their closeness without it necessarily being romantic (and this blogger tried to do that because they want to be rational, but they just can’t help tugging at that connection at the same time.
#taekook#hello kitty situationship#straws#straws will never talk fairly about tk#or about jkk for that matter
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I agree actually. Just cause they are part of the younger line, doesn’t mean they are equally close. To me it’s such a difference seeing Tae with JK and with Jimin. Same goes for JK with Jimin and Tae. And then compared to how Taekook are with each other and about each other. It’s just a different relationship and bond. I’m sorry if some don’t see it. And it’s not about plushies or trips - it’s about how they look at, care for and about and interact with each other ❤️
Hi anon!
I don’t even think it’s that some don’t see it. I think a lot just like to go against Tkkrs. Because if solo era showed one thing it’s that Tae and Jk are actually super close. People denying that have alternative motives for doing so.
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What a weird discussion to always have on your blog. People can believe what they want. But doesn’t take away from the obvious fact that no one in that band is closer than Taehyung and JK. Solo era proved what was obvious for all this time: they like to and often spend time together (and we get to know only a fraction of it of course), they are very fond of each other. They know each other so well, are so in tune with each other. They share friends, hobbies, playlists. And the same humor too. And are clearly proud and supportive of each other. And to me - I’ve been a fan for 3 months - it was so clear so quickly that they have something special. Nothing compares. I admire your patience 😘
Hi anon!
😂 people just know how to bait me. And honestly I really enjoy talking about members and their connections. I think they are very interesting to watch. Imo Jm and Jk as friends and as a ship (which is different) is very interesting to talk about. The ship gives you a great insight in marketing and how a fandom (jkkrs) gets taken advantage of. Jm and Jk as friends are great because I think they have a different take on life in general, but I think they’re both good at giving comfort (Jk through actions and Jm through listening).
It’s very different from Tae and Jk though. I think they’re each other’s person basically. Have been so ever since they met. It took one episode of AYS to throw Jkkrs in a hissyfit.. and that’s because even they could see how easily Jk and Tae slip into comfortable, automatic, closeness.
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But they didn’t have to enlist together to be able to meet the deadline.
Hi anon!
Like I said, if it was their own idea it would be perfectly fine by me. I don’t think Jm and Jk enlisting together says anything about Tae and Jk and aside from it showing that Jk and Jm are friends it says very little about Jm and Jk. Imo both Jm and Jk have people they are more close to (I don’t even think they come second to each other for instance). Them enlisting together is a result of BTS’s reunion date imo and therefore something that happened partly because of business reasons.
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what are your thoughts on Jungkook and Jimin enlisting together? Do you think Jungkook actually wanted to?
Hi anon!
I think it’s a good thing for both of them. Enlistment isn’t a nice thing. They are forced to do it. They are forced to be around strangers, which is probably a scary thing for anyone…. but as members of BTS it probably has a whole extra set of scary feelings. So, I think Jm and Jk having each other is a good thing. They’re friends, they know each other well.
But, I don’t think they would have chosen to go together if business decisions weren’t a factor. Jk still had time to wait, I think he put things on hold to be able to reunite with BTS. All 4 members going at once to me can only mean there was a deadline at work imo. Jk and Jm weren’t as close last year. I suspect them going together was a suggestion from the company and not necessarily theirs. If it was theirs though, that would also be perfectly fine by me. I do see them as actual friends. I would still think they enlisted together because of circumstances though and not because their thoughts were always set on enlisting together.
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Hello Kitty things aside… my head is just really at how wonderful doing this live must’ve been for Jk. I imagine it must’ve given him a sense of normalcy, a taste of what his live is really about, being able to set aside the enlistment stuff for a bit.
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