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When you just need to be a bit closer..

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Ok this is the last time I would be sending in an ask about this.

I feel like YOU are making my head hurt because you keep missing my point or maybe I am the one not explaining myself properly. I mentioned in my first ask that I didn’t expect Jk to say or do anything publicly about Taennie because it is understandable that he can’t but my point is that why hasn’t he said or done anything about it in general, not in public but even in private in a bid to for Hybe to not make Tae do the whole Taennie thing? I am also not downplaying closeting even though I feel like it is funny how you pick and choose when and how they are closeting because if I were to ask you how someone in the closet and about to get into the military could post private vacation pics of himself and his supposed boyfriend whom he is in the closet with, with that caption, I’m sure you would have a good Taekook explanation for me where suddenly we both would be expected to forget that these are two people supposedly in a closet.

You also say you don’t know what I expect coming to you expecting you not to give Taekook answers but do you make your answers fit the idea of what you believe Taekook are or do you try to look at things objectively regardless of whether they fit your beliefs in Taekook cuz it seems to me like sometimes you are inclined to making things or answers fit what you believe Taekook are and not letting yourself believe in Taekook because the answers naturally fit Taekook.

I understand that the artists don’t have complete freedom, I get that there are certain things they don’t or can’t talk about but not talking about something and not doing anything about it are two different things. If you were in Jk’s shoes would you let Tae go through all of that? Yes Jk has been linked to women too but did the company ever make him do media play with women? He was mostly seriously linked to women he was actually seen with and no one claimed it was the company forcing him to backhug these women for media play so how is that even the same thing? You think I am saying that Jk was expected to come out guns blazing screaming at Hybe to not do that to Tae but that’s not what I am saying. What I am saying is if Tae was really forced into media play and hated it as much as you say he does I believe that Jk whom according to you loves and cares for taehyung so much would not have let that happen continuously knowing how much damage it does to Tae according to you because if he sits there watching him bear all the cross then what kind of person does that make him? Why didn’t he volunteer to be the one to do the media play? Why Tae? You said jk too is going through a lot because he is in the closet but isn’t Tae going through a lot being in the closet with him too? Then untop of that he had to do media play too and receive all the hate while Jk sat watching?

Maybe it makes sense to you but I know that no matter what, I would never sit back and watch someone I love go through stuff like that because of a relationship we are both in. I am not arguing that whatever was going on with Tae and Jennie was real because I don’t know. I am only arguing that Tae probably wasn’t forced or made to do it against his will as you claim. Maybe he saw the benefits of it and accepted to do it because if you are right and he was forced to do that and has been having a hard time because of it, Jk would really seem like a douche for letting him go through that alone. That’s my point.

Hi again.

I think it’s really simple. You assume Jk has power to do something, and I don’t think he has. You don’t know what Jk has done or said to Hybe. You don’t know what conversations Jk and Tae have had about this. It’s even possible Tae didn’t even want Jk to say something. I think Hybe was gonna push this through no matter what and Jk probably knows he is powerless in this. Closeting isn’t a pretty thing, it’s not to be romanticized with grand gestures. When you’re powerless you just deal with it however you can. How Jk and Tae deal with their closet and the ways they are forced because of it is their business. It’s honestly not up to anyone to lay judgement about their characters because of that.

You cannot compare what you would do in their situation with what they do. Literally no one has had to make the exact choices they have. We don’t even have the same mindset as they have about receiving hate probably. You seem to think I believe this totally destroyed Tae, I don’t. Yes, I think he hated it, but he did not let it destroy him. He had some terrible moments probably, but we could also see him be happy often enough. The way Tae and Jk behaved during all of this depended on how both of them felt throughout it. I think they’re a team and I think they probably decided together how they would deal with this.

I don’t think there was a choice to make about Jk doing the mediaplay. I think it was about Tae specifically and it wasn’t about making a cover for Tae and Jk, though that was a desired side effect ofcourse.

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You are literally twisting everything I said. You said that you don’t think Jk could do or say anything about taennie because there would have been consequences and my question was, why could he say something about NJ, people he’s known for a much shorter time than he’s known Tae but couldn’t say anything or do anything about Tae? Jk was literally in the military when he made that post about NJ and contrary to what you said, Hybe could still do something to him unless you think the only thing that could be done to punish him was to beat him or hurt him physically or something which needed his physical presence but there is a lot they could still do to him. Jk normally isn’t one to get involved in drama so him using his platform to speak out in support of NJ while being in the military shows that he reached his limit so I am just asking why it only took so little for him to reach his limit while Tae has been going through this for years upon years yet Jk never made any statement about it?

You are asking what Jk could do to help Tae? Maybe take a stand and not continue letting the company use him? Like you said they have some level of freedom because we have all seen jk blatantly ignore the company’s rules so how could he sit by and let the company force Tae into media play with taennie?

Mind you all these things I am writing are hypothetical situations going by your post saying that jk couldn’t do anything about it. You mentioned the other members and even wooga not doing anything about the situation……but do you honestly think that if Tae alone had to be dragged through a situation that he hated so much and which hurt him so much none of the members would say or do anything? Do you think if Tae was really made to go through the whole taennie thing which didn’t benefit him in any way but only benefited Jennie like you have said, Seo joon would be so lovingly taking videos of her during her performance knowing that because of her, his friend had to go through so much shit? Maybe none of the members or Tae’s friends have done or said anything because they know nobody made Tae do anything. Maybe Jungkook hasn’t said anything because he knows how Tae really feels about the whole thing and it isn’t what you are making it to be because I don’t think you honestly believe that Jk or any of Tae me friends or loved ones would let him go through all of that.

I don’t know Jk or any of the other bts members personally but I could never imagine any of them sitting there watching Tae going through all that because of his relationship with Jungkook. Especially Jungkook. Why would Jk let Tae do all punishment for something they both are involved in? Why is it only Tae being made to do media play with women and not Jk who is also in the relationship? Maybe, just maybe no one has said or done anything because contrary to what you think or believe, Tae wasn’t forced or coerced or made to do anything concerning taennie and even if the whole thing was indeed media play, he participated willingly??

You are making my head hurt anon. Coming to an obvious Tkk blog and getting annoyed when you get Tkk answers never stops to amaze me.

Wanting black and white answers to a complex situation isn’t possible. I think Tae and Jk are closeted and Taennie isn’t real. I think because Tae and Jk are closeted, there’s limits to what they are allowed to do and say. It is possible there’s actual consequences if they break these rules, but also it’s something that’s ingrained in their minds by now. If we’re correct about them, years of having to hold back will have made them deal with situations pertaining each other in a certain way.

You’re making it seem as if closeting isn’t a serious thing and Jk can just decide to publicly make a point about what the wider public sees as Tae having a relationship. Everything Jk would have said about this would have been taken as a statement. Let’s say Jk would have talked about letting idols date in general, people would have seen even that as confirmation. Members not talking about certain things is because everything gets overanalyzed. Look at Yoongi’s case, no one spoke up about that. Do we think it’s because they don’t care, because they think because he decided to ride that scooter he deserves the way the media and society treated him? Same for Tae, you think he chose this and that justified the hate he got? In either case he got an insane amount of hate. But also, yes Jk knows how Tae feels and they would have had conversations on how to deal with these things a long time ago. Let’s not act as if Jk never gets linked to women shall we. The man was literally made to apologize for hugging a woman.

Jk is literally in the closet with Tae. How is that not serious? Tae doesn’t carry the burden of that alone.

They have power in certain things, but no power in other things. Yes, they carry some weight now because of how famous they are, but that doesn’t mean they can demand things. That doesn’t mean Jk can go to Hybe and say I won’t release an album if you want Tae to do this. They would still have Tae do this and just not have Jk release an album. They could even make Taennie ten times worse if they also feel spiteful about it.

[dearweirdme]

Hi 🥰 what is your fav thing(s) about Tae and about JK each? And your fav thing about them together?

Hi anon!

I’m so glad you added the (s) to thing, because I’ve been thinking about what my favorite thing about them is for about an hour now.. and I cannot seem to come to a clear answer.

I like many things about them. What drew me in is how beautiful I think they are as artists. I love their voices, I love the way they dance. Their presence on stage is unmatched in my eyes.

I think Tae is just incredibly sweet. I love how he’s playful and how he’s sharp as well. I think by Tae being soft himself he also enables others to be soft. He’s just really comforting to me and I think it honestly just the combination of many of his traits that makes that the case.

Jk to me is so caring. I love how he takes care of others in just simple ways that somehow matter a lot. I also love the way Jk shows emotion. On top of that, he’s just also so funny to me.

What I love about them together the most is how soft they are. The way they touch, the way they talk, just the way they interact has this underlying softness that melts my heart. Also, how connected they seem. Tae and Jk are just always so aware of each other.

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Wait so Jk was able to go against Hybe and openly and publicly voice his support for NJ but he couldn’t do anything about taennie? I’m sorry but this doesn’t make much sense to me especially because it is increasingly becoming clearer and clearer that Hybe doesn’t have that kind of hold on Jk. I mean think about, what sense does it really make to say that he couldn’t say or do anything about that situation for fear of what the company could do to him but he had no fear to openly support NJs? I personally didn’t expect him to publicly say anything about taennie but if at all he is with Tae, I also don’t expect him to do nothing about especially with the way people say Tae was hurt or bothered by it.

The truth is that, no matter what, when you see someone you care about hurting or being put in a tight spot, you try to do something about it or try to make the hurt feel better. Literally a few days after that whole thing when the internet was ripping Tae to shreds, Jk went Live looking the happiest we had seen him since the year began. Even though I didn’t expect him to say anything, I also didn’t expect him to look that happy especially knowing everything Tae was going through at the time.

In my opinion, Jk taking a stand and openly defending NJs amidst this whole company way proved that he does what he wants to do like he himself has always said and that no one tells him what to do. The company could have still threatened to do whatever you believe they threatened to do to him or Tae if he spoke out about taennie when he spoke out about NJs no? I mean isn’t it public knowledge that these companies will use anything under their belts to get the artist to fall in line, so what did he have the liberty to do something about NJs but not the liberty to do something about taennie? What was different?

Hi anon!

I think there’s not a single thing in your ask that I agree with.

First of all, there’s no such thing as Jk having had ‘liberty to talk about NewJeans’. Who is to say he did that with ‘no fear’. I think you hugely diminish the bravery it took for him to do so. He took that space for himself. I have no doubts that Hybe disapproved of him doing so. It was already done, so they just had to deal with it. He’s in the military, what can they do to him at the moment? This was also not Jk telling Hybe what to do and expecting them to listen. Jk knows Hybe will do what they want, he knows his words aren’t going to be taken into consideration. What I see this as is Jk speaking out for artists, artists like NewJeans who are going through this in public now, artists like Jk himself who have gone through this from as soon as they stepped into the Kpop business. He would also have said this having in mind Tae’s circumstances, having in mind everything all of them have had to go through throughout the years. Why can’t his statement be a result of years of built up frustration? Jk speaking out on NewJeans shows he knows exactly how bad things are in the business.

Again I ask, what could he have said to help Tae? For real. What words could he have used to persuade Hybe not to let Tae do this? Or, what words could he have said to fandom? Had he said something to fandom about Taennie being fake it would only be taken as Jk talking about another member’s personal life. It would have pulled him into the mess and not Tae out of it. It would only have mattered to Tkkrs, and we didn’t believe it anyway. If we’re correct Jk and Tae are closeted. That means they do not adress each other’s relationship statuses. It means that when it comes to them, they do not have every freedom they would like.

The absence of Tae’s specific issues doesn’t mean that Jk isn’t also under the control of Hybe. By saying ‘it is increasingly becoming clearer and clearer that Hybe doesn’t have that hold kind of hold on Jk’ you are basically saying that everything Jk went through during his time as an idol no longer matters because he seems fine now. ‘He’s a superstar’, ‘Hybe pushes him’… when you focus on results like that you fail to realize that company control can come in many ways. Where BH tries to keep Tae small, they try to use Jk. They take his time and make it their own, they take his accomplishments and make it their own, they make him a key player in a ship that they know will end up in huge fandom arguments.

‘The truth is that, no matter what, when you see someone you care about hurting or being put in a tight spot, you try to do something about it or try to make the hurt feel better.’

Yes, which they would have done in private. Public statements are always enlarged in fandom, but to them private support is what matters. Do you apply this reasoning to everyone surrounding Tae? Do we think none of the other members and none of his Wooga friends cared about Tae getting hate? Do we only want Jk to speak out? That love Jk did after Paris was basically him not dealing with his comment section for an hour.

I think they have some freedom. Especially when it comes to minor stuff. Both Jk and Tae have gone live when they pleased, they go places together, they have some artistic input at least. But when it comes to talking about certain topics, when it comes to things that go beyond what is deemed appropriate for their image and the company’s good name, I think they are pretty limited still. I believe there would be actual clauses in their contract that prohibits them from going to far. To think Jk is above that, or the exception to that is quite naive I think. So maybe treat his comments on NewJeans as the exception and not the rule… and give him credit for being that brave in this instance without feeling he should show the same bravery in another situation.

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Saw the moment again today where JK responds to a comment during his live ‘I hope you can do/ have everything you want’ and he went on that little passionate rant (with the wooga ring 🥹) what is your take away from this moment?

Hi anon!

Though the fan comment escapes me a bit, I think you mean this live:

I love that live. I think Jk was in really good spirits and just.. hopeful about his future. I’m still not sure if his mind was thinking about him and Tae specifically here, but it would be a part of what he’s talking about anyways. Jk wants to be honest and free and not be judged for just being human and having feelings and making mistakes. He doesn’t want to think about what the company thinks or what society thinks. He just wants army to accept him and treat him as their friend (biggest friendzoning moment ever 😂). I always kinda connect this live to the one he did after Dream premiere. I think that was him looking for acceptance and this was him asking for acceptance. It was brave I think. No matter how vague it still might look to us, Jk would have known exactly what he was talking about and I think talking about social acceptance is scary in his position.

I love how real and open he was trying to be.

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Was watching the butterfly bts episode for the release of Permission To Dance 💃 (where Tae imitated JK by saying he looks the best when he gets out of the shower haha) anyways, both looked so good, hair cuts on point 🙂‍↕️ but since I’d never seen this before, it struck me how often Tae put his hands around JK’s neck or over his shoulder or played with his in ears etc. like no other member did this - and while JK didn’t do anything back, it looked like he’s so used to it 🥹

Hi anon!

Put Tae and Jk next to each other and they will touch!

I agree, it’s just something natural to them. To me it’s clear they are very used to being physically close and it’s definitely different from other members.

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The first time we’ll see them interacting again, standing next to each other, smiling at each other, with their short hair and broad bodies and bread cheeks hdjdjdj it will be a lot, I think I will implode haha it feels like 4 years 😂😭🫰🏼

Hi anon!

I will cry! I am not kidding.. I will absolutely cry!

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I was just casually cruising through my timeline today and since I mostly follow taekookers, it was post after post after post of taekook moments.

from their insta live, then to dream, then Hawaii showed up, then jk and his little rush to wear the tiara, harry styles concert, then fetus serious jk under an umbrella waiting for tae and trying to control his feelings, then their little dance at yoongi's concert and the list goes on and on and on..

We dont realise how blessed we are to have witnessed taekook. whatever taekook is. I know "all members do this or that".. but no. they dont. A decade of feelings. that's what it is. and im so happy to be here!

Hi anon!

It is so SO much! A decade of feelings… you are absolutely right.

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Something about them sleeping…

Jk rolling onto Tae’s empty space

Hugs and kisses… Jk’s hand in Tae’s hair

Feet intertwined

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When there’s hot stuff on your lap… 😶

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I can’t tell you enough how couply I feel this moment is.. just Tae anticipating Jk’s hand on his leg… because it’s normal.. it’s a thing.

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Something about Anpanman Taekook…

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A perfect example of Tae melting into Jk 🥰

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so what is jungkook’s role in all this. If Tae is his bf, why not say something? Wouldn’t he have been angry?

Hi anon!

If they can make Tae do taennie they can certainly make Jk shut up about it. I find it likely they’ve been limiting the way Tae and Jk interact and talk about each other for years (I am a Tkkr obviously), so this would merely be a continuation of that. It’s pretty odd to assume Jk isn’t also under the control of Hybe. What was he supposed to say? Tell Hybe not to let Tae do this? Tell fandom Taennie is fake?

Jk has shown his love, support and strong connection to Tae continuously. Last year was such a big Taekook year. That is Jk’s role in Tae’s life. He probably had all sorts of emotions about Taennie, he wouldn’t have shown us those though.

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Just to clarify a few things, I didn't mean that he would be able to come back to work after one year, I believe that after 1 year things would mostly calm down and he would be able to have a more normal life. Although I do believe that he would be able to work outside Korea if he wanted to.

Also, what I meant to say about not needing to work, I know that he loves his job and all, but we can't deny that the fact that he doesn't need to worry about money, give him more options than if he had to work.

Again, I don't think that it would be easy and I certainly dont think that's fair that any person suffer because of their sexuality BUT he's in a better position than most and he can take advantage of that.

I hope they never feel that they dont have a way out of any situation.

Hi anon!

It’s not that I don’t agree, I think I mostly think that choosing to leave it all behind won’t necessarily make them happier or more mentally healthy. Financial stability ofcourse matters, and I think even in the situation they’re in mow it helps them a lot. Money can buy a certain amount of safety and privacy. But I also know that money doesn’t shield you from being unhappy and from having mental health issues. It would be a means for them to live physically comfortable.

I think it’s very possible that at times they do feel like there’s no way out while also at times feeling they just want to move to Hawaii and say fuck it all. If anything the 2018 disbandment talks to me say that they do know there’s an out.

It’s very possible that they are working towards a period where they try to be more open. Perhaps knowing that they’re not going to be hidden for eternity balances out certain things for them.

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Totally random.. but this never fails to crack me up 😂