#fake claiming tw

[compassionatereminders]

I hate how so many systems in place to "help" disabled and mentally ill people insist on only ever "helping people help themselves", because it means that a majority of people working in these systems prefer leaving genuinely struggling people to suffer neglect and not have their needs met to the risk of "accommodating someone's laziness" unnecessarily. Like I'm on disability benefits and in a group home and yet the response to me occasionally needing something to be done "for me" is usually "we will help you when you are motivated to do your part"

[auschizm]

Maybe it's less about me "not seeming" like I'm mentally ill/neurodivergent, but more about some people being unwilling to re-contextualize their negative judgment of me as the ableism it is

[custom-emojis]

I’ve decided that any and all anon hate I get in the future is gonna be pitted against other anon hate I get in a poll and battled out gladiator style for which insult is worse. Gives me something funny to do with it since I get rude anons semi regularly and these days none of them are funny enough to publish on their own.

The two contestants!

Contestant A;

And contestant B;

Some additional information to sway your vote regarding each hate anon!

I’m not even a DID system, we have OSDD-1b (medically recognized)

I do in fact identify as pan and gay. So at least contestant A is correct in their assumptions

I am in fact fat! So contestant B at least got one part right

I am proud of my gay pan identity so not much Emotional Damage there

Fake claiming is stupid so also not much Emotional Damage there either

Now, time to see them battle it out!

Poll lasts for one week. There is no prize for the winner, as I am the winner for being able to make funny posts off of people trying and failing to get under my skin.

The tag I’ll be using for this is ‘anon hate arena’. So block or whitelist as you please.

[lullabysvoidcornershop]

I really hate those videos like “OH OH TIK TOK USERS ARE FAKING DISORDERS!!” and the only reasons they give is “they self diagnose and are happy” like ???? is this nd kid too happy for your liking so they must be faking? can you not accept some people cant afford to get diagnosed with disorders they may obviously have and have done research on so they must be faking?? people who make whole ass compilations on youtube of people “faking” mental illnesses and disabilities are doing more harm than good. not only are they putting random people on blast but theyre massively prepuating this idea that everyone is “faking” their issues and making a platform off of it. Its not the self dx kids who cant safely get help and happen to be gender queer or somethin making it harder for people to be believed about their mental health struggles like they always claim, its them, the people who keep accusing everyone of lying.

[system-of-a-feather]

McLean Hospital DID Video Controversey; Our (+ our Fiance's) Take

I'm really going to probably primarily summarize our takes in this post. If you want to see my raw chicken scratch notes (changes from scratch to REALLY scratchy due to me putting back on my finger brace for my sprained pinky) you can try to decipher them here. If there is any part you want me to translate, reblog and/or send an ask or something, but ya know

I have a saved copy of the video here.

Anyways some context to mine and my fiance's background and relevancy to this topic that reflect our opinions and biases on the topic

Me: I have been diagnosed with DID for a while. I've been on social media (briefly on twitter for 2 seconds, but arguably I think one of the larger DID blogs on tumblr maybe? *bless invisible follower accounts*) and use it with a DID focus on one of my social medias. Used to follow DID Youtube. I am also a research nerd and actually, back in university, would try to find time to come out to seminars like this at the place I used to be a research intern on. I very much enjoy these environments and seminars that summarize present concerns and ideas in the research community. I've also basically cleared "stabilization" phase of DID and according to some have achieved what might be considered "functional multiplicity" yet am still progressing with my recovery.

Fiance: He's my partner since 2016 and has been actually living with us for about a month now. He's a communications major with specialization on advertising and marketing and as a decent part of his education focused on how social media is being used and how that stuff plays into effective advertising. He also has a close relationship with his mom that - until he started dating me and I got diagnosed - did he not know that she also had DID as she is of the type that is very ashamed, confused, and embarrassed by it. Between the both of us though, when his mom, him, and I go out to dinner, he is really the only one checked in and its kinda really funny cause he looks like the weird one for not entirely spacing out.

Yes, we made this a mini date night.

Anyways, the point.

The seminar had a lot of really good points, a few alright points, and a few really EHHH points. They also did directly use videos without censoring the users or doing much to protect their identity / reduce risk of harassment which I do feel is problematic cause he did - in part of his discussion about social media and DID - acknowledge that harassment is viral in the DID community for both people who have it and people who don't. I think that in itself is the largest issue and the largest fuck up that he really should honestly put an apology out for imo cause he really did comment on how huge of an issue it is, and did little due diligence to not add to it. While I don't think that is "malpractice" it is unprofessional. Do I think we should take his license for it? No. Do I think he should be held accountable / he owes an apology for that? Yeah probably.

Beyond that huge fuck up, the overall take away I got was that his concern for malingering / maladaptive use on social media on people who DO have DID and those that don't but might think they do / might be faking is absolutely valid and I do think it is someting that needs to be talked about; however he presents it in a kinda problematic way with a clear attitude and perspective that is both very (ironically) trauma stuck and - as my fiance and I started putting it in our conversations - "Boomer Takes"

He comments on how a lot of it is very flashy, performative, and sensationalized and comments on how that can be harmful / dangerous and I do agree, but I also don't think that inherently has anything to do with validating or invalidating how their diagnosis.

I DO absolutely agree with him calling out the trend of monetizing the disorder which I have strong opinions against and I do find it extremely uncomfortable for people to be trying to monetize the disorder outside of genuine extreme situations where support is needed.

I had a lot less of a notable take on the comment on the switches being overt because I actually never seen someone switch in person (his mom is very covert and not the most talkative about hers), but my fiance had a very loud laughing fit over how dramatic and weird they were commenting that neither of the ones he showed looked anything like either of how me or his mom show things.

There was a REALLY good S tier section on the Fantasy Model VS Trauma Model as well as how DID forms and the nature of it in the middle that I think was actually VERY well done and informative and I would like to chef kiss the air at it.

Again, there were a lot of good points to it and it was informative but I do have a few complaints.

The overall issue I find with his rhetoric are

a lot of his points sound mostly anecdotal which is not really the best (he did have some studies but, a lot of "this is not what we see"

he really has a set mindset that seems to summarize to "if they are not completely shocked and traumatized when they switch and are used to it, then they are faking / malingering" which is pretty problematic

he doesn't leave room for the fact that some people with DID do heal and recover from trauma and while most might be experiencing it in a way that is horrifying, people DO heal and discounting the lack of shame and acceptance as reasons to suspect malingering / faking is kind of problematic and against healing ideas

he doesn't leave account for generational gaps in how mental health is approached and while he focuses a lot on how people are inappropriately using DID "content" he only brushes over and vaguely hand gestures at what he would suggest "healthy" usage to look like which once again doesn't serve to be the most productive of conversation

his very understanding of the disorder in short is very dependent on the idea that people with DID "are usually ashamed" and "very traumatized" which the latter is true but again, healing exists

a point my fiance brought up is that while he has a lot of good concerns and points, a lot of his points come from anecdotes and how he "doesn't see these things in his practice" but he never really talked to any of the people he is commentating on the behavior of and the thing with social media is those with the largest following tend to be the extreme ends of whatever niche they are in so it is likely that those with extreme followings likely have extreme (ie atypical) experiences of the disorder simply by the nature of how the disorder is

Anyways, theres probably a few more details worth commentating on or transcribing from my notes but my pinky is sprained and i already wrote a shit ton for this so Imma give it a break and not type it all up.

TLDR: its not the best delivered video but it does have its merrit and the overall concept / concern is valid and important, but the dudes a boomer and has an issue of "poor traumatized and broken meow wows" about people with DID that is kinda annoying and out of touch

TLDR 2: Guys he didn't do fucking malpractice. People who are saying he did malpractice honestly need to get off the internet and learn how to use those words correctly cause yall are watering it down. (insert world heritage meme on the word 'gatekeeping' and 'gaslighting')

Absolutely feel free to reblog/send asks for more elaboration and all on it, but thats just my notes and take from it.

[autistic-zukoao3]

I started hallucinating at around 3/4, and had a very, very long psychotic episode around 10 years old. I was quite literally constantly hallucinating. I heard people calling my name, or just shouting, music that wasn't there (which was pretty pleasant most times to be honest!), and seeing things.

Our dissociative episodes as well were pretty obvious starting at around 3/4 years old. Looking back on home videos, I started displaying symptoms really at around 9 or so months, and my autism was noticeable at 6 months.

Our first suicide attempt was in preschool, though it wasn't due to depression but rather... Scientific inquiry. We wanted to know if heaven was real. Thankfully all that happened was my finger getting pinched rather than being electrocuted.

Little kids can experience psychosis, suicidal ideation, anxiety, delusions, etc. and it's dangerous to pretend they don't.

There's this idea, fairly common in society, that mental illness is for teens and up. Children are happy little creatures, generally, right? Sometimes they're abused and the trauma can make them mentally ill, but that's not common.

There are two fundamental problems with this attitude. One, it's incorrect to assume that trauma is the only reason a young kid can be mentally ill. Two, trauma is more common than people think. I'll be covering the first problem in this post through the lens of my particular experience.

Where I live, you can be diagnosed with bipolar disorder at 18 years old. You cannot be diagnosed with bipolar disorder as a minor. This poses a problem because my age of onset was in first grade, roughly six years old. Because of the fact that I was very young and new to the world, this was also the age of my first suicide attempt. Thinking I wouldn't be able to pass a spelling test genuinely felt like something worth trying to die over. So, I ate some hemlock, since I'd read about Socrates being killed with it. Luckily, I ate western hemlock, an unrelated species, and just felt kind of sick.

I'm not recounting that for fun or pity. I'm recounting it because children with mental illness are in genuine danger because they have little to no experience with managing their emotions, have little to no concept of the idea that their life can change and improve, and are dismissed by adults. I told a teacher that the test made me want to die, though not that I'd attempted to, and it was brushed off as little kid hyperbole. If I had used a method that was effective rather than one I thought would be, I would have been dead at six years old.

I would not receive medication that worked even a bit for another two years. I would not receive treatment for bipolar disorder specifically for ten years, and that required my PCP fudging the reason for the medication because she was afraid I would die if she didn't, and diagnosis was still two years off at minimum. I received a formal diagnosis at age 19, thirteen years after onset.

But surely that's uncommon, right? This story is a huge edge case, right? I actually have no idea, because age of onset and age of diagnosis are massively conflated for most disabilities. Policies like the one in my area that restricted bipolar diagnoses by age can artificially raise the age of "onset", in my case by thirteen years. The general idea that children are somehow immune to mental illness can also delay diagnosis by several years, perpetuating the idea that young children can't be mentally ill. The data on when people start experiencing mental illness is inherently skewed upwards, and I frankly don't have a good estimate on how bad that skew is. If anyone does have that data, please chime in.

Listen to children. If they're saying they're sad all the time, that they don't care about anything, that they don't see a future for themselves, those are signs of depressive symptoms. If they say that tests make them feel sick, that they can't do anything because they're scared, that they can't breathe and freeze up, those are signs of anxious symptoms. Many children talk about imaginary things, and that's just fine, but slip in a question or two about them to make sure that the kid is just playing, and not experiencing psychosis.

Children are new to the world and vulnerable, and they don't know what's normal and what isn't. They need people who are more experienced watching out for problems they might be having, and listening when they talk about having problems. If you can, try to be the person who perceives them, and tells them that things can be better.

[chronicsymptomsyndrome]

Can we please for the love of god stop telling teenagers they’re too young to have aches and pains. Can we please stop being dismissive about these things. Fakeclaiming is disgusting period, but it is exponentially harmful to youth. Just because you didn’t start hurting until your 20s or 30s or 40s doesn’t mean every teenager complaining of chronic pain must be lying. I learned the hard way that if kids are invalidated enough about this, they will just learn to accept constant pain as a fact of life. And then they will need surgery they can’t afford in ten years bc it turns out constant pain is NOT a fact of life. At any age.

p.s. same goes for mental health

[snakeautistic]

Fake claimers are so perplexing to me because half the time they’ll go on the social media page of a autistic person, look around, decide they must know better than the owner about their neurotype and immediately start bullying them FOR THEIR AUTISTIC TRAITS.

‘Hey this person has very niche and unusual interests they post about constantly and they don’t realize people are being mean to them on their posts because they take the sarcastic comments literally … and they claim to be autistic?!, How absurd let me make fun of them for being weird.’

[compassionatereminders]

Mentally ill people actually get abused and assaulted at HIGHER rates than the average population. And we're not immune to genuine health emergencies and serious physical health issues either. The "they're mentally ill, so what they're complaining about is probably all in their head" ableism is hurting and killing many, many people

[auschizm]

I'm not sure if this is an okay place to rant because I don't know if I technically count as both autistic and psychotic, or just autistic, but I need to vent to someone. I just got discharged from my local Early Intervention Psychosis team after only one appointment because I'm "not paranoid enough". So now I guess I'm just meant to deal with the increasingly bad hallucinations and other stuff by myself??? My doctor has referred me to talking therapy but it's a months long wait list and they always insist on a limited number of sessions of CBT, even though CBT doesn't work for me because I'm autistic and I know I need long term therapy, but I can't afford private. I'm very glad we have free healthcare in my country but often it feels like the systems are designed to just ping pong you between departments without actually helping with anything.

I'm really sorry that you aren't able to access the treatment you actually need, and you're in your full right to be upset about this.

[lefluoritesys]

Hey idk if you wanna know this but just in case this post of yours was posted to r/fdc and one of the replies I think too :( I'm really sorry and hope y'all haven't been getting any harassment or anything idr if ur user was in the post

"Do you really believe you have DID?" No, DID believes in me, and a bit too hard.

In other words: people will always be assholes. If they are so miserable that the only happiness they get is shitting on others, we can't help them. I think this is a free promotion (advertisement)! :D

Their desire to fake-claim us without a medical degree or learning literally anything else about us and our lives doesn't take away years of living with it, years of experience, and literal people in my head. And we're not even planning to get diagnosed, though that's just my ADHD side-tracking me...

Also, why are you on such subreddits, my friend? They can damage your mental health pretty hard. Are you not looking out for your well-being over there? 👀

-host

[livingfictionsystem]

"NPD isn't stigmatised" is the PERFECT baseless pairing to go with "You have a shared blog so you're obviously faking DID" take.

We're really just going for an entire "I don't know jackshit about psychology bingo" today, folks!

People with NPD can't even request for people not to misuse pop psychology terms without being attacked by anons, exemplified by this very post, but you say it doesn't have a stigma?

And no, I'm proud of Rune's response. If I could take credit for it, I would. But alas, I haven't been faking a traumagenic disorder for ten years just to get the own on some ignorant chucklefuck on Tumblr.

-Xanthe 🕑

The term narcissist has existed and been used prior to the diagnosis. Calling someone a narcissist is not diagnosing them with anything anymore than calling someone "depressed" is diagnosing them with depression.

The term "r*tard" has been used prior to autism as well, but generally, if a stigmatized group asks you to stop using a harmful term, you fucking listen. Kay? Kay. '-'

-Rune 💠

[didderd]

i've been confused about this for a while now, and i just keep seeing it. people who have "anti-endo" or "non-traumagenics dni" etc. in their bios or posts.

it confused me bc after looking into it, i found that endogenic is just a term for another type of system.

it immediately rubbed me wrong that people are excluding these people simply for what they are.

and after doing some research, i'v realized that it's fake claiming culture...

if these people make you uncomfy, sure you don't have to interact with them, but you do not live in their head. you can't decide if they have a disorder or not.

same shit happens with tic disorders. people with tics claiming that someone else is faking simply because their tics don't look the same, or they happen differently, etc.

as someone who can't fucking stand fake claiming, i have to say something.

fake claiming is never ok

full stop.

someone's system developed differently than yours? works differently than yours? they'r different than you, that is all. don't assume they're just lying.

and if they are lying, they are not doing as much damage as you would be doing by accusing them of such, and it turns out they'r not lying. don't take that chance. i'v heard how much fake claiming can take a huge tole on someone's mental, even ruin their life if it gets bad enough. and usually it's not even true.

if you want to know more about these systems, here is a link too an article, made by the people who proposed the terms. and here is an important part of it:

"The terms traumagenic and endogenic, which are now often used to try and divide the community into “fake” and “real” systems, were never meant to be used as such. We proposed them, and a few other terms, back in mid 2014 just as a way for people to move away from medicalized terms, to help phase out the term “natural system”, and give non-medicalized systems words they could use to better describe their experiences.

Endogenic simply means, a system not formed from trauma or other negative life experiences. It doesn’t mean they never experienced trauma, just that it isn’t what formed them. It doesn’t mean “healthy” or “non-disordered”. Endogenic systems can and sometimes do experience amnesia, dissociation, distress, and dysfunction. There are quite a few hypotheses out there for how endogenic systems form, but in the end, we just don’t know how the brain works in regards to plurality. It could be psychologically, physiological, spiritual, who knows. The point is, endogenic systems exist and are a completely valid expression of plurality."

lastly, i want to say, if you are an endogenic system, i believe you. you are valid. you deserve to exist.

and if you'r a fake claimer, DNI. unfollow. get off my blog.

[necroneol]

TW SA AND ABVSE MENTION

okay hi, i know this is unusual for this account but i just wanted to put something out there. apparently my stuff is going around on the fake disorder cringe reddit which is..well. it is what it is. i just want to say some things.

if you have a problem with me grow up and say it to my face. hiding behind reddit is pathetic. i have said it a million times before but what you see here is a mere fraction of my life and my experiences. some people on reddit were saying that my idea of “abvsive” is most likely me just whining because i have to do chores. and ill say that im sorry for you, and i feel for you. you sound very lonely and hateful and sad and isolated. i hope you can find something better. truly. i will never understand how people see content online and assume they know some hidden truth, like theyre the only one who can see through the lie.

you want the truth? the truth is that i Do whine when i have to do chores. and i cry when my mother takes away my food as punishment. and i close my eyes and take it when she hurts me. i do what im told because i know what happens if i dont. i keep my secrets inside, and i keep my mouth shut, not because i want to, but because i have to. because every single time i even attempted to tell my mother about any of the sxual azzaults i endured, half of which were perpetrated by my own family members, she told me i was so ugly that no one would want to touch me like that, so i must be making it up.

so yeah. i whine when i have to empty the dishwasher for the third time in one day when there are at least 4 other people in the household capable of emptying a damn dishwasher.

i am lucky enough to have these moments of normal, every day disappointment and frustration. i am lucky enough to have time in between to complain about doing the dishes. you are lucky if you have the time to put strangers down behind the safety of anonymity for no reason other than you can and youre bored.

my life is real. just because you cant fathom it doesn’t mean it’s fake. my diagnosis is real. i am real. find a better hobby and learn how to love yourself.

thanks so much to anyone reading and to everyone who’s supported me so far. i finally have hope in my life. i am forever grateful and i hope these insecure people can find some hope of their own one day. we all deserve it.

happy holidays and merry christmas!

[chronicsymptomsyndrome]

Nobody is “too young” to be cynical or jaded or hate their life. There is no appropriate age for that. If someone is experiencing that at any age, their mental health is at risk. Doesn’t matter how young they are, or how easy their life seems. Just because existential dread didn’t hit you until later in life, doesn’t mean everyone else gets to be so lucky.

“You think life sucks now? Just wait until you’re grown” okay grandpa what if they don’t make it to adulthood? What if it gets worse until they only see one way out and they take it? Stop being dismissive. Stop forcing your problems onto young people and start taking them seriously about things. Period.

(Inspired by this post)

[lesbianclaryfray]

“actually ivy is CANON BISEXUAL in main continuity” and the “source” is 2 completely different continuities, a screenrant article citing a source that does not exist, and her “relationship” with her groomer