#c: discourse

[21stc3nturyd1gitalb0y]

it shouldn’t be taboo to admit that there are disabled people who are more or less disabled than you.

i consider myself mid support needs. i am in pain every day of my life, all the time, and am significantly impaired by that. i can’t work full time. i require significant support to get through the day. i need my service dog to function properly. i can’t live alone, at least not right now. i can’t effectively mask my autism.

but i still have privilege over other disabled people. i can walk. i don’t have to worry about wheelchair accessibility when i travel. i have no visible deformities or intellectual disabilities. i am verbal.

some people are more disabled and others are less disabled. it’s okay. it doesn’t mean that you’re not valid or that you don’t deserve help. it just means you do not have the exact same needs as someone else.

[apol]

This is so funny yall

There's people out there getting into the dream smp bc of this mess

10/10

[todoggukie]

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (2024) dev. Square Enix

[dizzying-waves]

All I'm gonna say is this, these designs are good when you don't have an annoying person in your ear telling your they are bad, mid, or a letdown down from their previous designs

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

the way this is catra word for word LMAO

[beelzeballing]

having your two favorite arcane characters be viktor and mel AND shipping jayvik at the same time is like. on one hand i cannot stop collecting w's but also the whole fandom has it out for me cuz the jayvik shippers hate mel and the mel lovers hate jayvik. why cant we all just hold hands. why must we fight.

[thejolteonmastertj]

I really need ppl to understand 99% of the reason why Rulie's portrayed the way he is in fanfics is a combination of two factors:

1.) Jojo actively encouraged the fandom to write fanfic long before she even decided to make an actual long-form comic of her own.

2.) During this time period, & for quite a while after that, the majority of what the fandom had to work off of for Rulie's personality is from this doodle page, & this description for his personality literally straight frm Jojo herself.

... 2.5.) It should also be noted Jojo hadn't played Adventure Of Link until about halfway through the Sunset arc, as evidenced by this post (we know this is Jojo's sister b/c the official LU tumblr credited her for one of the goofy Sky panels).

Now, since then the way Jojo portrays Rulie didn't change drastically overnight, the Magic Sword comic did happen beforehand for instance... but I do think the level to which Jojo plans to focus on particular traits from Rulie's original design has evolved over the course of development for the comic.

More recent (and, uh, mostly discord-exclusive, so I can't give too many details here) commentary from Jojo indeed emphasizes plans to highlight Rulie's determination above all else, quite contrary to how she used to describe his character (it hasn't changed, probably, it's just a matter of plot-driven emphasis).

Fanfic writers aren't stupid, we're literally just working with what we have-AND, Rulie himself, as a very nuanced & layered character, is going to be portrayed in wildly different manners depending on context & genre.

If you want to see more of Rulie's sassy side,

1.) Read more recent fics (Alas you will likely have to search by recently updated, as the first wave of popular fanfic tends to get enshrined forever at the top of the list when searching by kudos & comments.)

2.) Don't read angst (Sorry not sorry but angst & vent fics are going to make up the majority of works in any fandom, & in these fics a character's vulnerable side tends to get spotlighted. Don’t like don’t read.)

3.) Respectfully Ask for recs instead of barging in & just straight up telling fanfic authors what to do. That's rude.

[cloverstellar]

insane to me that some people still think that you can say ctommy and cdream are separate and should be viewed separately narratively speaking when a big chunk of the dsmp’s story was driven through cdream’s obsession with ctommy. no im not saying cdream was in the right but its no fun to see people water them down to just cdream using ctommy as a side piece and less like an objective he had to conquer and subdue to fit his regime. or turn around and say ctommy’s story did not revolve much around the abuse he sustained from that in the same breath because it DID and. man. man

[transgenbur]

OKAY so what ive been thinking about for ages is ctommy and being soft vs quiet . because i feel like it's one of those things in his fandom characterisation that sparks the most debate and in my opinion theres a huge difference between the two but i keep seeing people mix them together.

ctommy is soft but he's not quiet, and to disregard either of those things is what makes him less believable in fanworks imo

because on one hand, of course he's not quiet, that's the most obvious and i think one of the most commonly accepted qualms that we have with general fan interpretations of him. he doesn't just lie down and take shit, he's always committed to being an annoying shit, he's straight up rude so often, and even just. vocally. man's loud as fuck. i think that's pretty easy to establish .

but then what i find is that sometimes we veer into the other opposite, by completely denying that ctommy is also very soft sometimes. and by this i don't mean he turns into strawberry shortcake or starts being polite or whatever, but it's the fact that he's not just crass and rude. he's very considerate a lot of the time, he just shows it. uh. in his Own Way let's say. he cares for animals so so much, he's always so apologetic when he thinks he's hurt one of them, for fuck's sake he sung to the FLOWERS. he's very soft with nature, with things he's attached to, with things he perceives as weaker than him and needing protection.

the complexity of ctommy and what makes him so hard to grasp is that he's loud, he's brash, he is NOT a perfect quiet victim who suffers in silence, he asks for help, he's rude, he steals stuff, he's annoying as shit; but he's also soft, and incredibly empathetic, and he has no shame in showing that softness for animals or nature or his friends.

ctommy, and this is very much because cctommy himself acts like that a lot, is constantly vacillating between someone with the maturity of a thirteen year old boy who shouts and swears and pretends not to give a shit, and a boy who will stop everything he's doing to look at the sky or a flower or an animal (which does contrast his stereotypical rude teenager persona, because lots of aforementioned thirteen year old boys Would be embarrassed or whatever to do that).

he does BOTH. he's not just quiet and nice and sad and lonely; but he's not just rude and loud and """uncaring""" (if there is one thing ctommy is not i think we can all agree its UNCARING).

and i think this is why a lot of debates around "woobifying" ctommy (who remembers the july 2021 trenches . the butterfly clips.) tend to point any ctommy design that portrays him as soft, cozy, or even leaning into his feminine side as the be-all end-all of reducing his character.

in reality i think that misses the mark a bit because while there IS something to be said for sure about people turning ctommy into Blonde Anime Child #249824 and stripping him of his Very Vibrant character, i don't think that putting him in butterfly clips and skirts erases him in the same way. i think he could very much lean into that kind of thing . as long as he's still flipping off the camera we're all good

TLDR : fans strip ctommy of his loud-and-annoying persona but in avoiding that some forget that he's a character who's not afraid to be soft

[carto0ncritter]

I'm sorry but I genuinely can't understand how people can look at Stolitz and Catradora and think these ships are healthy in any way, shape or form.

Stolas r*ped Blitzø. No, consent given in a life-or-death situation doesn't count

Stolas is racist towards imps, and this didn't change even when he "fell in love" with Blitzø

Stolas doesn't appreciate or respect Moxxie and Millie in the slightest (and was disappointed that his "Prince Charming" wasn't the one to rescue him)

He looks down on Blitzø and calls him things like "impish little plaything" and "his big dicked Blitzy" and doesn't stop treating him like shit even when Blitzø says loud and clear that he hates being talked down on like this (DUH)

The only thing Stolas knows about Blitzø is that he hates books and the only thing Blitzø knows about Stolas is that he's a boring bookworm. Keep in mind, the two figured this out about each other while they were kids, 25 YEARS AGO, after Blitzø was bought so that he could be Stolas' "friend" for ONE DAY

Stolas doesn't love Blitzø for Blitzø. Stolas loves the *idea* of Blitzø. The bird man wants to live a romance that is just like the romances in his cheesy novels. He wants to ride into the sunset with his one true love. He wants grand romantic gestures. He wants his "Prince Charming". Except, Blitzø isn't the type of guy for such sappy displays of affection, he never was. Especially combined with his trauma. And as soon as that other imp guy asked him to dance, Stolas not only accepted the offer, but Blitzø was no longer on his mind. And no, I don't think being drunk is proof that Stolas didn't mean what he had told Blitzø. Drunk people find it easier to say what's really on their mind after all

Blitzø fell in love with his abuser. This makes sense, actually. The guy always pushed everyone away and never got to experience true love, and now that he has the chance to be "wanted," even if the "relationship" is toxic, he finds it hard to let it go

As for Catradora, the things I wanna say about this ship have already been said throughout the years, but it all boils down to these things:

Catra mentally, emotionally and physically abused Adora

Catra had no problem ending the whole entire universe if it meant she'd finally be better than Adora

Catra was a war criminal and a fascist

Catra was responsible for what happened to Glimmer's mom and never apologized, let alone faced consequences

Their relationship was toxic even when they were kids

They were both raised by Shadow Weaver and were the only ones in the Horde who saw her as a mother figure, thus making the ship straight up incest, with even the official source material calling them sisters (adoptive siblings ARE REAL SIBLINGS!!!)

Catra got exactly what she wanted in the end (the girl she's always been obsessed with and dependent on) and, once again, faced 0 consequences for her actions

The show (and C//A stans) fetishizes abuse. As a SA survivor, I felt physically sick during the final episode, where the abuser ends up with her victim/sister and they kiss

In short, these ships are disgusting and the lgbt community deserves better representation

[thetiniesthorse]

I know you all will already agree with me but I need to rant.

I hate so much when people use Dan and Phil as an example of why shipping/rpf is bad. Not just because if you actually engage in Dan and Phil's content at all it is very obvious shipping did not ruin their relationship and they definitely don't hate it . Not even just because I believe that shipping and rpf are good, I don't think its inherently bad but I acknowledge there can definitely be issues with it.

I hate it so much because it is so dismissive and erasing of the real complex queer experiences Dan and Phil, as well as many other people, went through. To say that teenagers thinking two men would be a cute couple is what scared and traumatised them ignoring umm yknow homophobia, horrific bullying, and the feelings of deep loneliness and never being understood and accepted for who you are? I would also even argue alot of the young fans in the early 2010s that did harass them about being gay or together did so because they also didn't understand these complex and difficult queer experience. Dan and Phil were not scared and closeted because of shipping they were scared and closeted because of HOMOPHOBIA you idiot.

Did Dan and Phil's fans also traumatise them? Yes, but idk man I think it was more to do with them harassing, stalking, and trying to out them, and not because they wrote stories about them fucking or zoomed in on their shoulders brushing. It was also because the way they became famous was very weird and new and unexpected, which led to them not having boundaries. There was also maybe not so much concept of a digital footprint, so suddenly they are famous and not ready to be out but oopsie they used to flirt on twitter because they were young and the internet was not mainstream.

Dan and Phil's story does have so many interesting things to discuss about celebrity, shipping, internet culture, parasocialism, and queer experiences. But if you actually cared about Dan and Phil at all your conclusion is not going to be just "shipping is bad and evil :(".

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

ambrosius: internally freaking out at the fact that he accidentally chopped off his lover's arm, never intentionally hurts ballister, only turns against nimona because he wants to protect ballister

catra: takes every opportunity to consciously and intentionally torment adora as much as possible in all existent ways, shows no hint of remorse for any of her actions and continues repeating them till the end

fans: omg y'all only hate c//a bc you're lesbophobic, goldenheart is the EXACT same ship but you like them bc they're men

[ouchiemyspine]

'cop' is new tumblr buzzword. not everyone u disagree with is a cop. u cant make a 'terf' variation for every group that excludes anyone. words have meaning. the world doesnt revolve around u

[rambles-of-mental-illness]

May I complain for a moment.

My biggest pet peeve in psychology and the nd community is seeing every thing that falls under being neurodivergent labeled as “this is an autism thing”.

No. It’s not an autism thing. It’s an ADHD/Autism/OCD/C-PTSD/etc thing.

And it’s not like I don’t understand, it’s social signaling to try to find people like you. It’s saying “does anyone else with autism experience this” without saying it in that manner.

However.

It’s very frustrating to see things that are experienced over a wide spectrum of neurodiversity always watered down to “it’s autism”. And some of the things people like to say “this is an autism thing” are just things that are normal human experiences.

What it does is it waters down the meaning of autism until *everything* looks like autism, and perpetuates the idea that any neurodivergent behavior *has* to be autistic behavior. Which leads to people getting misdiagnosed, or self misdiagnosing.

“I struggle with social cues I must be autistic.”

NO. NO. YOU COULD HAVE OCD. YOU COULD HAVE ADHD. YOU COULD BE TRAUMATIZED. YOU COULD HAVE A PD. YOU COULD HAVE A DISSOCIATIVE OR PASSIVELY PSYCHOTIC DISORDER. NOT EVERYTHING IS AUTISM AND IF YOU JUST JUMP TO ITS AUTISM YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND YOURSELF AND YOU WILL GET THE WRONG TREATMENT AND THE WRONG CARE IF YOU TRY TO JUST LABEL EVERYTHING AS AUTISM

And then you will wonder why the symptom management doesn’t work. And you will think there’s something wrong with you when the wrong treatment doesn’t work for you. And all you’re doing is hurting yourself.

Not everything is autistic behavior. Not all neurodivergent behavior is autistic. I get so frustrated seeing normal neurodivergent behavior labeled as purely autistic traits.

And maybe this rubs me even worse because I got misdiagnosed with autism when I needed an adhd and ASPD diagnosis. And I couldn’t get the right care for years because of it. I had to give myself treatment for my ASPD and I’m still fucking struggling to manage it because I have *never* had the resources and I’m doing it from scratch all on my own. And I have NO fucking clue how to manage my ADHD, and I’ve never been able to manage my ADHD, and I can’t get medication to help my ADHD because I still don’t have an official diagnosis nor do I have the means to get one and this would have been solved YEARS AGO if it wasn’t all chalked up to “high functioning autism”.

There are other forms of neurodiversity than just the autism spectrum. The idea that all neurodivergent behavior is autistic behavior *hurts* people. And it’s so normalized to treat all neurodivergent behavior as purely autistic behavior that people who do not have autism at all or exhibit signs of it will see *one* trait that is a shared neurodivergent trait and seek treatment for autism because there isn’t any *breathing room* for other neurodiversities to exist in the media and in practiced psychology these days.

And it’s getting better. Slowly. But there are things we can change in our day to day speech and the way we talk about neurodivergent behaviors and traits to speed up that progress in recognition and support of neurodivergent disorders outside of just autism (and ADHD has this issue too to an extent but not nearly as severe as autism).

[66kenobi66]

C//A stans: Omg, Adora is such a ditz! She didn't even know she was GAY before her and Catra kissed 😂

Literally Adora every other episode:

[tboyquackity]

can i be honest and true. i do wish ppl paid more attention to cq's brownness and how that textually plays into the way he's treated and viewed by the majority white cast. despite how many examples there are, i'll focus on two of the biggest ones: cdrm is Extremely Ghoulishly Racist to charas like mex dream and cwilbur canonically does racist loaded digs to cq and rejects him frm lmanburg for being mexican specifically. even if cwil didnt mean the latter some type of way, it's still smthing cq is Actually Very Hurt By and he says as such. like. cq is capital m spanish is his first language deeply in touch and proud of his culture cowboy outfit spanish music mexican masculinity beliefs hard work ethic make a name for yourself si sé ass MEXICAN. it's a massive glaring issue i see all the time of ppl being unwilling to engage w what that means for his story arc