#vivziepop art critique

[showtoonzfan]

Usually when I argue that Vivziepop’s character designs lack “body diversity” and “variety in shapes and sizes”, I found a good example of someone who I think designs better, and that is Jane Walker, someone who literally works on Helluva Boss, and has designed background demons, the cherubs, as well as her own art of course.

I actually really like her art, I suggest looking at more if you’re interested! But yeah, I feel like this is a good example of different body types, shapes, sizes, and features. Each of the characters look unique and have a good style to them, and I feel like Vivziepop sadly only knows limited body types, wether that be a plain male stick, a woman with a small waist and wide hips, or a circle shape. So yeah, I wish Viv was more branched out like this, instead of using the same standard body type and features over and over again.

[gh0stygray]

I keep saying I wanna get to the seraphim’s but I get bursts of energy to other charactersss!!

Anywho here’s the long awaited Vaggie redesign! I made her outfit similar yo Charlie’s and added gold on her to elude to get angelic identity! She’s also more purple!! I’m so sorry but I can’t stand seeing her in red, it’s just not fitting, her final battle outfit was cool makes me wish she was in that all the time with her hair tied up.

I gave her tufts of fur to bring out her moth look and also because in one of her past designs she had these bright pink fluffy leg warmers so I thought that was cool, I also gave her gold cracks in her skin and made her X’s resemble crosses in her hair.

I wanted to make her look more demonic bit still keep her bright and soft enough to give of that lingering angelic look!

Thoughts on the design?

[rev-illustrates]

-Reimagined/Redesigned The king of Hell, Lucifer Morningstar OR Lucifer Dawnbringer as imma call him, from Hazbin Hotel. Saying it now I don't like the show that much, or the creator at all. This was me creating him how I saw him. Especially after I found his character goofy in the sense he was a lil guy who liked ducks. I decided he was my first character to recreate - I already did Vaggie and Alastor idk who to do next maybe Angel or Charlie

-To put it simply he looked so young. If I didn't know who he was l'd think he was Charlie's brother. He also didn't scream "the big bad king of hell" to me. So I made him older, and ginger haired referencing the paintings of the guy. A Halo like crown and wings. Made his hair longer, and kept him relatively " animation friendly " according to some Stan's of the show. And I gave him a beard. Whenever I see the redesigns with a beard I do a flip. I’d think of him as of course a bit brooding, has realistic thoughts with his daughters hotel. However I’d see him as someone who’s interested in the creations his daughter creates. As well as those serious people who find the silliness shit funny, but hides it with a straight face.

(Note) so I went back and looked at it and this design and the redesign from Loveart23 do have some similarities- And some people asked if I got inspired. No not really actually 😭. I used some concepts from my old persona outfit into his clothes and went for a rouge priest look???? And added colors from the show and colors I added - I think a few changes a few outfit elements could work because I think that looks the most similar. So expect a change in his outfit with his daughter soon.

[neko-loogi]

Here's my redesign for Husk!

So I decided to draw redesigns for Hazbin Hotel characters! I'm starting off with Husk because to me he's one of the most detailed characters. For his design, I decided to simplify it, because holy hell, Husk has way too much detail- it's insane.

I made his fur slightly darker because according to Viv, Husk is black (or at least implied), but you wouldn't fucking know that because she's terrible at representing certain groups of people. I was originally going to remove the wings entirely, but if I did, he would totally look like a furry OC, so I kept the wings, except I took away all the details and made them small. Basically his wings are for decoration.

I also made him look more like a grumpy old cat (because again, according to Viv, Husk is supposed to be in his 60's or 70's.) And finally I made him chubby because its supposed to represent a beer gut lmao-

[limbo-lounge]

A redraw of that one Hazbin Banner, featuring characters from the Limbo Lounge!

From left to right, top to bottom, we have: Tillie, Dr. Lockheart, Snow, Azzy, Valeria, Chammy, and Jacque.

Hazbin Banner Redraw by Mod Midnight

Likes and Reblogs are appreciated! Close Ups under the cut!

[sirshiba]

are people still making hazbin hotel redesigns or

(transcript for the text under the cut)

Charlie: The crown princess and current ruling figurehead of hell. Usually sweet and sunny, if a bit demanding because of her spoiled upbringing. Has a fiery temper that's prone to flare-ups.

Alastor: Enigmatic radio personality and former overlord who disappeared for several years after being ousted from power by Vox. Charming, blackmailing, and murdering his way back up the hierarchy of hell.

Angel Dust: Burlesque performer, drag artist, and pin-up model who also offers 'adult' services to high-profile clients. Sultry, charismatic, always putting on an act. Has a troubled relationship with his manager, Valentino.

Husker: Once a highly successful businessman in Hell who managed Overlords' funds. Now a washed-up alcoholic bartender laying low in the hotel, dodging vengeful loan sharks and Overlords from his shady past.

[theloganator101]

The Designs for the Main Cast Makes me Wanna Fucking Cry

Okay I'm going to propose a scenario that's relevant to this post. Say you're someone who has NEVER seen or heard anything related to Hazbin Hotel, then I come up to you and show you this picture of some characters from the show.

I ask if they are the main cast of the show and you reply probably. Well TOO BAD FUCK YOU ONLY TWO OF THE MAIN CAST ARE HERE! Now THIS is what the main cast is compiled of.

As someone who likes to do character designs, I take GREAT issue with how their all designed.

And I'm sure I'm not saying anything new as I'm sure everyone and their mother had brought it up, that the excessive use of red in this palette is just NOT GOOD! It makes everything blend together in a bad way and no real distinction between the characters and the background.

Speaking of the characters! Let's talk about those deisgns!

Vivziepop, I have to ask... Why does all the main characters has to have red in their design? Even to those where red is NOT their color? *CoughVaggieCough* It makes them all look the same color scheme wise and tells very little about themselves.

A personal rule I have when it comes to designing characters, one that I'm not sure if many people know, is that the main characters should have their own unique colors and combinations of them to help them stand out more AND get their character across.

The ONLY one in this main cast that DOESN'T have some form of red in their design is Angel Dust, so that makes him stand out more and would probably trick people into thinking HE'S meant to be the main character... when it's actually Charlie.

Which again doesn't help that almost every character in the show have some shade of red in their design so it doesn't help distinguish who's meant to be important or not.

Vivziepop, you have a world where people from different eras of time are all living together, why do you NOT take advantage of this fact to give everyone respective designs to make them stand out more? Why are a majority of the male characters just wearing suits and tuxedos? Hell I've seen people redesign your characters that makes them look better!

(Credit goes to the artists that made these awesome designs)

Just... USE THESE AS INSPIRATION TO MAKE YOUR CANON DESIGNS BETTER PLEASE!!

And if you guys want, I'll be more than happy to come up with my own redesigns on how I would draw the main cast.

[pastel-kaleesh]

Emily and Sera redesigns!!!

Okay so La Vivziepoop said "Oh I want my angels to be Black" but then they're ashy and horribly conveyed as Black.

And also why were the Seraphims weak?? Don't they reside at God's throne and are the most powerful of all the angels? Well basically in Redemption Resort, they are. Sera is the queen of the Heaven born Angels who resides at God's throne with her daughter Celeste, who will be her heir. Sera is the Great Mother of the Heaven Born Angels and was the mother of Lucifer among others. Once he fell, she didn't want to associate with him and when Celeste met Charlie, she was forced to treat her like an acquaintance rather than a new friend. Instead of the Hazbins fighting the Army of Heaven, their first enemies are actually the Overlords and Charlie's meeting was for her plan to redeem her friends. Sera and Celeste are the most powerful angels and conceal their true forms, as they are power wasting. Celeste is seen as a young child-like apparition and instead of having chemistry with Charlie, she just acts like a sort of friendly classmate type and shows her around Heaven. Currently Sera is training Celeste to control her powers and is also helping her improve on her flying. Sera is 8 feet tall and Celeste is about 6 feet tall. I felt like the Seraphims would be exaggeratedly tall to emphasize their power and rank.

[showtoonzfan]

Some Old Vivziepop art that I actually kinda like and lowkey miss:

[gh0stygray]

Working on a redesign of Velvette! I like how she acts in the show but I can’t stand her ashy grey skin, so I’m trying to do her some justice! I will also be cooking up some redesigns of the seraphim sisters.

I wanted to make her feel like she takes after both Valentino and vox.

I gave her white smudged make up on the form of a mask because it not only looks cool but I was trying to make her feel like a clown or doll? That’s what her past look resembled I’m not quite sure what she’s based off of or what kind of demon she is, I’d like to think she was a past model/ fashion designer who was very cut throat, bossy and very competitive, she seems very sure of herself, ambitious and opportunistic.

Maybe that lead her to some how falling of her high horse in fashion by a rival? Which resulted in her being called a hack or clown in which she retaliates by snapping on them killing her rival, career and self all in the same day.

[habbohotei]

introducing vivziepop new black character

[rev-illustrates]

-Reimagined/Redesigned The Princess of Hell - Charlie Dawnbringer (my name). This was drawn out of what used to be my liking for the pilot as they massacred my girl Charlie. I feel she was dumbed down in the season we got and lost her authority, personality, and other traits I loved.

-I made her a bit average sized and gave her hooves. I wanted her to have snake like hair and for her horns to be of her mother and for them to be shaped like her father’s wing crown. She even had a crown in general ! I wanted her to look like she’s actively running around doing things due to the rolled up sleeves and vest she wore. I see her as a tomboy like the old art. Shadows on her hands like her father and mother. Rosy cheeks and lipstick. Another trait I gave her is that she makes little trinkets for herself and others. Such as the bracelet on her wrist having a moth on it for Vaggie, and the cotton candy earring she had.. I swapped the red she had for a more orange color it makes it pop more same with her eyes.

Re-Redesign of Lucifer coming soon, !

[anonymouscheeses]

I need more of your Vaggie design! Human or not. Doesn't matter. Your Vaggje design is awesome!

This little shit is wanted in every ring of hell + on lucifer's death wish list, she has evaded the police 900 times and has taken out half the demon and sinner population, not even hell wants her ass 😭🙏

Oh yeah and vaggie x vaggie. So its pretty much. Hunter. x hunter. eeyyyy no? Ok... 😃

[neko-loogi]

Here's my redesign for Niffty!

So I didn't change too much, I mostly gave her a more house keeper/maid outfit, because her original outfit doesn't really scream "maid" in my opinion. And I also gave her antennas because I think she's actually based on a bug. (I'm not so sure, because Viv fucking sucks at explaining what her characters are based on).

Don't worry, even if she looks friendly, I promise you, she's still her crazy self, she just hides that personality very well.

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Perfect Comic To Describe The Issues With Charlie's Plan

Seriously, girl needs a reality check.

[yourlocalpurplelover]

V*ggie redesign sketch ♡ ( hotel uniform)

V*ggie deserves a better name cuz who names their lesbian character after a private female body part???? Seriously????