#dissociative identity disorder psa

[sunflower-inflorescence]

Dear [Alter]

Dear Caretakers, it's okay to worry that you're not doing enough. You are.

Dear Fictives/Factives, it's okay not to identify with your source. It's okay to identify with your source. Remember that you are your own person and that's all that matters.

Dear Gatekeepers, take a breath. I know that it's hard. It's going to be alright. We couldn’t do this without you.

Dear Littles, you're lovely. Keep it up buddy, remember that you're amazing.

Dear Persecutors, you are not evil. You are not a 'bad alter.' You are just as important as everyone else.

Dear Protectors, it's okay to take a break. You are going to make mistakes, and that's okay. You're doing your best and that's perfect.

Dear Self Destructive Alters/Trauma Holders, it's not your fault. It is not your fault. You don't deserve any hate, you don't deserve any of those awful things. You're deserving of the world and one day, some day, you will get it.

Dear Alter, you're going to make it.

[reallemonmeat]

this is an important thing i want to talk about. im mostly refering to Emesis Blue fandom here, but it goes for any fictional media. ‼️please read even if you don't like Emesis Blue this is a general important message‼️

sorry for the rant but. can we please stop using "split/multiple personality disorder" in the context of "i think this character has it because 2 evil sides. its his other personality coming out!". actually can we also stop using those names too? MPD as a name has been outdated since 1994.

like.. as someone with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder, "MPD"s ACTUAL name.) it's so fucking heart breaking to see people still have this mindset in 2024. like please before you even let a disorder's name out of your mouth please actually research even a tiny bit. one little thing you say can be so harmful.

I should also state im specifically talking about those who don't have said disorder of course. for example, i as a person who is medically recognized as having DID like to headcanon Postal Dude with DID. i usually keep it to myself unless i go in full depth to make sure i am not demonizing it or misrepresenting it. (i do have a post explaining it on my alt. i use it to cope.) generally, i think if someone has said disorder and they headcanon even a villain or a bad person character with it, they are allowed to

the issue comes when people without this condition come into play, and dont even respect the topic a little bit. this is where i talk about Emesis Blue.

No guys, pills do NOT give you DID. DID only comes from repeated childhood trauma.

no, DID is NOT the "2 personalities 1 is evil" disorder.

i hate ever mentioning my disorder onto this specific blog but this is the only way ill reach people. please stop misrepresenting disorders, especially using their VERY OUTDATED names and views.

im bringing up emesis blue specifically because someone's art i REALLY liked did emesis blue art, and i was instantly met with this in their tags.

please, this goes for ANY FICTIONAL MEDIA, please stop representing DID this way. it is super harmful.

please do not witch hunt people either. i know not everyone is gonna know every thing, or be up to date. i know people arent constantly researching disorders like i like doing, i just want people to know that these representations of us are super harmful and we need to stop them please.

thank you so much for reading. please reblog so more people see. im sorry for this on my main.

if you want to learn more about DID, i would recommend this site as a start. https://did-research.org/origin/structural_dissociation/

im also not FORCING YOU to research every little thing about disorders or at all, just please do not severely misrepresent them in such a harmful way.

thank you.

[planesofdelusion]

haven't been posting very much on here because everything I want to say is too revealing so here's a reminder to tbmc survivors: don't tell people your cues and triggers. don't tell people about your system structure. don't even tell people your parts' roles unless you really really trust them. doing these things will actively put you in danger. stay safe and drink some water <3

[jaceothy]

Hi! Any new followers need to read this psa !!!

IMPORTANT!! Please read.

Hi! I'm jace !! We have DID (dissociative identy disorder) as well as am autistic and dyslexic. I have alters or what i call parts. Most of my parts are quiet online. However two of them talk here the most.

Kat - she/it - she loves anime boys and self insert fanfics

Kyle - he/they/it - he's a furry and a silly guy. He's the one who draws the most.

Just call me jace. That's the host name. I write and draw and sometimes have an identity crisis. But just know I'm just a human healing and learning about themselves. I love people and chatting. I do deal with amnesia when I switch and sometimes forget stuff! Things fall through the cracks. Please be kind.

Anyway. Im open to sharing my experience. Or answering questions. I just want to make this psa for my pinned post. Thank you !!!

[starlitvases]

Controversial take: I think we are entering an era where self-diagnosis will become invalid.

Before the Internet, when one suspected a disorder of some kind, they'd go to the library, ask others with the condition about it, see the doctor, etc (assuming one lived with the available resources).

Today, people see a singular, oversimplified symptom of a condition and automatically assume that they may have the condition. Confirmation bias comes into play as they start looking at other tiktoks, blog posts, and social media sites about the disorder. When a contradictory symptom is brought to light, it is ignored. When one doesn't fit the critera of a condition, that's often ignored as well. Very few people I feel are actually looking at clinical research, the DSM, and differential diagnosis that can mimic the condition.

The biggest evidence I see of this phenomenon comes from Dissociative Identity Disorder and Autism Spectrum Disorder. Many people, especially young teenagers, find one symptom they relate to and run with it. There is a massive argument going on in the autism community right now regarding self-diagnosed autistics. The statement, "you have to meet the diagnostic criteria of autism to be autistic," has quite a lot of controversy, despite it being a true statement. This statement applies to every disorder and condition, yet many people try to fight the criteria and lay claim to a disorder they may not have.

Due to people rushing to a diagnosis with little research and no regard for differential diagnosis, I feel self-diagnosis is entering a point of nonvalidity. Yes, I understand the point of self-diagnosis. Not everyone has the money to find a doctor. Not everyone has a detailed medical history to explain their present symptoms, etc. That was me as well. I grew up in a poor family and was severely medically neglected. Despite that, I still did my research, looked into other conditions that present with the same symptoms, and always made an effort to at least try and find a doctor to confirm my suspicions, even if it took several years to do so. It took me until I moved away from my family and entered into college to actually obtain several diagnoses, but I still did the work. Today, people are not taking adequate steps to self-diagnose and receive proper care.

There are many reasons I suspect this phenomenon to be happening, but this post is controversial enough. I think it's best for this post to sink in and allow others to use this as a wake-up call to actually do the research on their suspected disorder. Pick up professional books and papers on the topic, read the DSM, look into differential diagnosis, and family history. If you can't find books or papers on the condition, here's a protip: a pirate always finds their treasure 😉

[that-lemur]

I can’t believe that you don’t support endo systems seeing that you’re a therian. Your blog also doesn’t say if you’re even a system or not, so what do you even know about systems anyway??? Educate yourself before you spread misinformation about our community that isn’t harming anyone or anything. Hate like this, for literally no reason, disgusts me. We’re trying to live our lives and be proud of who we are and the only people standing in the way of that are people like you. Do better, man.

Woah more !! Fuck you !!

“Who you are” is ABLEIST do I have to spell that out for you a-b-l-e-i-s-t.

Besides endos who are traumagenic with suppressed/forgotten trauma y’all are just ahem. Shitty people ‼️

You invade traumagenic spaces and steal terms for traumagenic systems. You spread misinformation through.. Google Docs and Carrds 😭 Like you guys know those aren’t valid scientific resources to reference right??

Yet again, to state a FACT. You cannot be a system without trauma. Says it in medical documentation :3

Being a Therian has nothing to do with being a system as it’s an IDENTITY not a mental disorder. Though my Alterhumanity is likely connected to my Autism (which is common).

Me being a system or not has nothing to do with it. Singlets and systems can point out bullshit when they see it. Is every doctor that diagnoses Dissociative Disorders a system? How do you know what my personal circle looks like? Maybe i have system friends NO WAY. “Mixed-Origin”, “Endogenic”, “Tulpagenic”, “Paragenic” none of them are real 😭

You guys have set back the genuine scientific study and acceptance of real systems back soooooo far, you’re the reason doctors may misdiagnose real systems. You actively spread real harm to traumagenic systems. You actively steal terms that have nothing to do with you, and are directly against you. You constantly harass people that do not share the same opinion as you by interacting with people that directly tell you to NOT INTERACT WITH THEM

PSA: interacting with someone when they do not want you to interact with them is harassment.

[dorianbrightmusic]

PSA

-OCD is not a synonym for neat or preoccupied with tidiness. Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder is all about distressing intrusive thoughts and rituals (compulsions) used to combat those thoughts.

-Intrusive thoughts are not synonymous with silly things I want to do. They're deeply upsetting, often taboo mental apparitions. Letting them win is the last thing anyone wants, and nobody is immoral for having them. (See 'impulsive thoughts' if you need a term.)

-Anorexic is not a synonym for thin or emaciated. The majority of anorexic people have OSFED atypical anorexia – that is, their BMI is above 18.5. You cannot judge the severity of someone's illness by their appearance. (If you're worried about someone, look out more for rapid weight loss than thinness, even when it's occurring in someone in a larger body. 10kg in 10 weeks is never a good thing.)

-Eating disorders are not synonymous with just anorexia and bulimia. Anorexia is an ED, but it's nowhere near the most common. Bulimia is an ED, but again, not the most common. Together, they do not constitute the most common. The most common ED is binge-eating disorder, and the second most common is atypical anorexia, which is one of many, many OSFED categories. Those living with ARFID, pica, night-eating syndrome, rumination disorder, subthreshold BN, subthreshold BED, and orthorexia all deserve dignity, compassion, and acknowledgement. Remember: EDs are not necessarily thin, and never glamorous.

-Schizophrenic is not a synonym of all over the place, abnormal, unpredictable, dangerous, or crazy. Nor is schizoid or schizotypal. Folks with schizophrenia spectrum disorders live with hallucinations, delusions, disorganised thoughts/behaviour, and/or catatonia. They are far more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators, and go to huge lengths to act okay even when distressed by symptoms.

-Schizophrenic is also not a synonym of multiple personalities/volatile. For the disorder involving having different facets of personality that are generally unaware of each other, see Dissociative Identity Disorder, and even then, don't assume it's a) dramatic as it is in the movies; b) evil; or c) trivial. DID is a trauma disorder.

-Delusional is not a synonym of wrong. Nor is it the same as this politician/friend is saying something I do not like/that is potentially dangerous. Delusions are false, fixed beliefs held despite evidence. And generally, folks with delusions don't tend to proselytise them. I know that certain politicians have beliefs that seem to persist in the face of evidence, but nevertheless, we don't need to stigmatise mental illness further to call out poor political/social behaviour. If you need a word for the pundit spewing potentially dangerous content, use 'dangerous' or 'wrong', but don't call them delusional.

-Bipolar is not a synonym of all over the place or fluctuating results. Bipolar disorder involves mood states that, even in the rapid cycling form, tend to last at least 3-4 days (mania) and weeks (depression). If you need a word for the weather, use 'British' instead.

-Psychotic is not a synonym of evil. Psychosis is losing touch with reality, whether it be through hallucinations or delusions. It doesn't make a person bad or violent. It's just a neurological phenomenon that may be distressing. It's also relatively common: 6-15% of people will hallucinate in their lifetime.

-ADHD is not a synonym of just quirky/scattered/forgetful/unfocussed/lazy/careless. ADHD is fundamentally a disorder of being able to choose where to direct attention, rather than of just I can't focus. If someone can't tune out the noise of the crowd, but can't prevent themself focussing on something trivial because their brain is wired that way, it's not laziness or just being quirky/scattered.

-Autistic meltdown is not a synonym of temper tantrum.

-Borderline is not a synonym of harridan.

-Narcissist is not a synonym of abuser.

-Mentally ill is not a synonym of volatile or bad person. This doesn't mean we have to make something artificially positive out of mental disorders. If there is good to be found in certain disorders, great; if there is nothing positive about living with certain others, that doesn't make you any less real or resilient than anyone else. It's okay to have complex feelings about your own disorders. It's okay to feel exhausted or frustrated by a disorder. But never should anyone have to face stigma.

[silvanaleksei]

Okay yes, but respectfully, Dangonrompa also has a very damaging representation of someone who has DID (formally known as Multiple Personality Disorder, thought that term hasn't been used in the medical community since 1993 even thought people incorrectly use it in media all the time) that perpetuates that everyone who deals with a disorder, that literally comes about because of repeated childhood trauma, is dangerous and has some sort of serial killer alter, which then stigmatizes people who are already dealing with a long list of issues that come with the disorder itself.

DID is so stigmatized and misunderstood, that I have had actual professionals not only refuse to diagnose me with it when I exhibit all the symptoms and, once actually taking the assessment, show that there is no question that I have this disorder, but try to medicate it away instead, and also refuse to acknowledge my diagnosis, even though I was assessed by two separate specialists, because she believed that the disorder is fake. When it's in the DSM-5.

It is a disorder that is used for shock and horror in media, like we are some sort of spooky entity that goes bump in the night, instead of human beings whose brains were literally not allowed to form due to trauma. Who deal with PTSD, memory loss, dissociative amnesia, anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation, and so much more. People who are more likely than others to end up as victims of trauma because we are repeating cycles of abuse that we might not even remember. People whose lives are oftentimes plagued by the exact horrors society likes to say we will inflict on others.

No hate to the OP. Factual information about DID is not prevalent, and Dangonrompa is otherwise a great example of the point they were trying to make. However, the DID community has been speaking out about media like this for a long time because this is the /only/ representation we get (with the apparent recent exception of Moon Knight). It may not be nearly as dangerous as what is going on in the trans community, but the suicide rate for people with DID is 70-72%, and being outcasted further but popularization of media like this only adds to issue, and should be talked about.

"let people enjoy things" is about like. danganronpa or hannibal or something else like that. not the antisemetic wizard game that's going to be funding anti-trans campaigns in the uk.

[pluraldeepdive]

Let's Fact Check: Was MPD renamed to DID for Harmful Reasons?

(Disclaimer: This post contains descriptions of ableism and disbelief in plurality. I do not condone any hatred towards any person mentioned on this post. If you see anyone attacking them, please report them for harassment! This post was made to spread awareness, not negativity.)

In this post, we will be investigating the claim that multiple personality disorder (MPD) was renamed to dissociative identity disorder (DID) for harmful reasons.

Origins of the claim

This claim most likely originated from a (now privatized) wordpress blog post made in 2019.

Click here for an archive of the blog post.

In this post, the author is discussing a blog post they found that's written by Allen J. Frances, the chairman of an outdated edition of the DSM. After reading his blog post, they came to the conclusion that Frances renamed MPD to DID out of malicious intent towards people with MPD because his blog post states that he does not believe in MPD.

This wordpress post was later linked on Twitter, where many users began repeating the claim. As it spread across Twitter and other social media platforms, the claim has adopted several variations. Some people claim that Frances attempted to get rid of MPD entirely, some claim that he renamed it as a scheme to erase all plurality, and some claim that “DID” is an ableist or offensive diagnosis because of all of this. It seems like most of the people spreading these claims do not have DID themselves, however.

Click here for a link to an imgur folder showing examples of this claim in online plural spaces.

The post by Frances

Now, let's look at the blog post that was cited as proof that MPD was renamed to DID for harmful reasons.

Click here to read his post (TW for fakeclaiming and ableism).

This post was written in 2014. In it, Frances is expressing how he doesn’t believe in what he calls MPD. He personally adheres to the debunked skeptical models which suggest DID is created through therapeutic suggestion or is a “fad”. He talks about how he wished he could remove MPD from the DSM-IV, but couldn’t do so. The next best thing, to him, was to allow controversial statements to be injected into the manual. These statements were removed in the current edition of the DSM.

Frances does not mention anything about the diagnosis's name change.

Addressing bias & concerning behavior

First of all, it’s important to look into the author of the wordpress blog to understand how reliable their word is. The author is a median system who I found out, from the blog, is @/multi_sapphire on Twitter. She also runs the blog @/acting-nt on Tumblr, which is a fact known by many in the online community.

At the time of making her blog post, she did not identify as having DID. She is openly anti-psychiatry, as well. While I don't want to make this a big focus, this system also has a history in the plural community of being very hateful towards the DID label. I have had to make a PSA about them before for posting hatred in the DID tags (source). They are the coiner of the term "traumascum" among other things (source). Many, many PSAs have been made about her by other systems about various concerning behavior (source).

Frances’ post can be easily triggering to anyone with DID, OSDD, or plurality. It’s understandable how a system, who was already unfavorable towards psychiatry, came to think that all of the changes made to DID in the DSM-IV were done out of malicious intent. Let's investigate that next.

Addressing how the DSM is made & who coins names

For anyone who doesn't know, "DSM" stands for the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It is a handbook used by clinicians to diagnose mental disorders.

The DSM-IV is an outdated edition that is no longer in use. It was published in 1994 and was replaced by the DSM-5 in 2013. While Frances was the chairman of the DSM-IV, he was kicked off the taskforce and has nothing to do with the current DSM. Most of the changes he made were completely reversed in the current manual.

The DSM taskforce is run by many people. Diagnoses are divided across different work groups who receive input and data from researchers that specifically research and work with people with those disorders. Suggestions are proposed from the researchers to the work groups, who then analyze this, conduct field trials, and propose changes that should be made to the DSM (source).

While Frances oversaw the taskforce, he is not listed as a member of any work group or researcher in the DSM-IV. This means he did not come up with any of the proposed changes to the DSM-IV.

Why MPD was renamed to DID

All of the dissociative disorders were renamed at the same time! All of them, except for DPDR, were changed to have the word “dissociation” in them. Researchers explain that they proposed this change in order to make the dissociative nature of these disorders more understandable.

Psychogenic amnesia was renamed to dissociative amnesia.

Psychogenic fugue was renamed to dissociative fugue.

Multiple personality disorder was renamed to dissociative identity disorder.

Atypical dissociative disorder was renamed to dissociative disorder not otherwise specified.

When it comes to DID in particular, there are two main reasons for the shift from multiple personalities to dissociative identities. Hersen et al. states the one of these reasons is that the term 'personality' defines "the characteristic pattern of thoughts, feelings, moods, and behaviors" of the whole brain (source). This is what makes alters identities rather than personalities. According to this definition of personality, having multiple personalities would mean having multiple brains! The second reason is that the older term emphasized the alters over the dissociation (same source).

In my opinion, refocusing on the dissociation rather than the alters allows people with DID to have the full spectrum of their symptoms recognized, and helps distance plurality from disorders. Many plural systems don't view their systems as the problem. Many systems don't have DID, either. The shift in this diagnostic language has made it much easier for that distinction to be made! It's very unfortunate that false claims have been made about this, casting more stigma onto both DID and non-DID systems.

Summary

To summarize everything:

The claim that MPD was renamed to DID for harmful reasons most likely originated from a 2019 blog post.

The author of the blog post was reasonably concerned about a figure of authority being ableist. However, their own biases against the DID label likely influenced their claim that the DID label was created by said figure of authority.

In actuality, that guy did not come up with the name "DID." Researchers are the ones who did.

MPD was renamed to DID in order to make it more understandable and put an emphasis on dissociation.

All dissociative disorders were renamed along with DID to include the word "dissociation" in them.

[multiplicity-positivity]

Directory

This is a directory of non-positivity posts we’ve made in the past. Organized alphabetically because we weren’t sure of how else to categorize it!

All About Headspaces!

Bonding as a System

Coming out! As plural!

Dealing with Denial 101

Depersonalization and Derealization Resources

Depersonalization vs. Derealization Infographic

Disordered Plurality

Dissociative Amnesia

Dormancy: Coping with the Temporary Loss of a Headmate

Establishing Contact with Headmates

Finding Ourselves: On Individuality and Identity

Get to Know Me! Headmate Form

Grounding Techniques

Helping a Headmate Post-Dormancy

Helping Persecutors and Violent Headmates

Internal Meetings

Overwhelmed? Take a REST!

PSA: Transx/Transid and Radqueer

Resolving In-System Conflict

Resources for Questioning Systems

Source Separation for Introjects

Switching Tips and Info

Time for a (Self Care) Check Up!

Understanding DID

Unmasking 101

If you have any questions about any of our posts, or if there is a post you would like to see us make in the future, simply let us know!

[sunflower-inflorescence]

It’s all “we support systems!” And “we trust systems!” Until a persecutor does something that the system as a whole has apologized for and made amends for or a protector sets a hard boundary that someone doesn’t like.

It’s always “we love systems!” Until a system steps out of someone’s idea of how systems should act.

[redley-of-many-noodles]

Thank you for the addition, @parrotramaclustertruck .

Reblogging so that anyone on my blog will hopefully also see the resources you linked.

Remember that hatred blinds, and love should not be conditional.

I made an interesting discovery today.

(I would especially like to hear your thoughts, @analogue-system )

To start, some context.

I don’t ‘surf’ the plurality tags like I frequently do aspec and destiel tags (despite not being involved in either!), but I’ve seen some things relating to them.

Primarily, a lot of people putting “endogenic systems dni” or “non-traumagenic systems/supporters not welcome” in intro posts and the like. I’ve also seen a much lower concentration of systems that identify as endogenic, but that was from my For You page, so the algorithm’s bias may have been at play there.

From what I’d read about DID in a psychology class a few years ago, and interviews I’d seen on Azeal’s YouTube channel, I knew that severe trauma can cause DID to develop or intensify. Using that, I guessed that the meaning of ‘traumagenic’ was relating to that fact. That systems form through trauma. Everything I’d heard up to that point seemed to fit with that. But then, what did ‘endogenic’ mean?

I made another assumption.

I had seen a lot of negativity towards endogenic systems, and had heard a system talk about a Discord server they were once in, which was filled with people allegedly trying to ‘naturally’ become plural. This server was also said to immediately turn on the system after they were medically diagnosed.

My brain connected that dot to ‘endogenic,’ and the fact that it was somehow distinct from ‘traumagenic.’ I was satisfied with that conclusion, too.

But then my Author Brain got to Author Brainstorming. I wanted to make sure I knew the exact definitions just in case that one story idea ever came to fruition. So I searched the internet for,

“traumagenic vs endogenic.”

And I found an interesting article.

One from a system that’s been a part of the community for quite a while now.

The system that coined the terms ‘endogenic’ and ‘traumagenic.’

I’d like you all to read it.

Seriously, read it. Read it carefully. Don’t just toss the entire thing out the window as soon as the author uses one word you don’t like.

Read. It. All.

And think about it.

There’s not much I can say that the article didn’t nail right on the head — great job to the Lunastus Collective on that! — so I’ll just ask you the tried and true questions you’ve probably seen a dozen times before.

If you don’t like [x], why?

If you hate endogenic systems, or think they aren’t actually plural, why? What’s your reasoning? How much actual evidence is there to back it up? How much of your argument, when you take a close look at it, is just bias?

Same thing to those who feel similarly towards traumagenic systems. Why?

Assuming endogenic systems to be “fakers” who were impersonating a disorder to mock those suffering from it or to get attention came naturally to me. I hadn’t really seen the term ‘endogenic’ or its meaning discussed at all, and it made sense — just like plenty of people have faked Tourette’s and autism for TikTok views, it made sense that people would fake DID too.

And don’t get me wrong, for every disorder that’s been featured in the news or a movie there’s a crowd of people who will pretend to have it for attention. I have no doubt there have been people pretending to have DID under the endogenic label, but the same is likely true of traumagenic.

I’m not plural. I’m not an authority on plurality. But the Lunastus Collective is the first actual authority on the subject I’ve seen discuss endogenic systems in any other light than “go fuck yourself and die.”

Even if I’m being woefully misled and somehow stumbled onto misinformation from the most nefarious, diabolical liar to have ever graced the Earth, I feel like that’s a problem. That people respond to a word with that much hostility.

It’s an attitude that reminds me of aphobes and terfs in how dismissive and disrespectful it is.

So, if you’ve read this far and have been genuinely giving thought to the matter, genuinely trying to look at this from all sides — please, talk to me. Share your thoughts. If you have sources of your own to share, please link them in the comments or reblogs or anything.

I don’t want this to be a post centered around hate and conflict. So please, approach with grace, not to have a fight, but to have a discussion. Even if you do so grudgingly.

[runwiththerain]

Hihi!! You can totally answer this privately or not at all, but i really want to know about being a system. I don’t really know what it means and i can’t find much online, not even tumblr — is it okay if you teach me a little?? I’d love to understand peoples’ identities 😊

everyone is welcome to read this !! systems need to be way more normalised !! as a psa, part of being a system is that every systems experiences are different and this is not a complete summary of what experiences systems can have

systems occur in people who have suffered severe* trauma at a very young age. this is because their sense of self has not formed yet, meaning that alters can form in their brain. alters form in extremely stressful situations to help handle them. people who are a system will have either did, osdd, udd or another dissociative disorder. systems cannot form without trauma

*severe is the response to what happened, not what happened, comparing trauma is not cool

systems can vary in size massively, some systems have mostly brainmade alters and others mostly fictives (fictives are a type of introject that are based on a character from a media), some systems remember their trauma and others do not at all. systems can be as private or as open as they want, that is their choice, but to be clear they don't owe you any information about their system or trauma

here is a very helpful post that demonstrates experiences as a system to singlets

if you want to know anything more about being a system you can look up did and other disorders that systems have but to be clear they are severely demonised online. i'm happy to answer more questions but this is just a short overview. to be clear, i don't know everything and don't claim to, correct me if i'm wrong on anything, please

[aspd-culture]

aspd culture is : goes into the aspd tag. seems someone claiming house md, (guy whos dxd aspd in the show im pretty sure lol) is actually hyperempathic instead of lacking it and avoids patients due to too much empathy. like ok just avoid the whole boundary pushing / whatever else ok. alright thats enough of that *turns off internet* ive had enough of prosocials damn why do they think the only aspd symptom ever is lack of empathy. god

The amount of people who take *any* ASPD rep - including but not limited to House, this was also EXTREMELY common with Wednesday Addams, who is also diagnosed with ASPD in the show Wednesday - and call it "hyperempathetic autism" is... disgusting honestly. I'm autistic too and I get the desire to have representation from non-infantalized characters, I do, but the erasure of ASPD from the very few sources who intentionally make ASPD representation is not how we handle that.

And, as you mentioned, many people intentionally overlook, ignore, or try to explain away any "bad" behavior (see also: ASPD symptoms) because it pushes against their point.

People are just... so desperate to not admit that anyone they like had ASPD that they will directly ignore and speak over the media's direct acknowledgement of ASPD just so they can see us as monsters and still have permission to like that character.

PSA to prosocials, especially those with no other experience with cluster b treatment:

When the therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist says the character "has antisocial traits" or "is antisocial", that's not a descriptor, nor does it mean they don't like people/avoid interaction with people. That's a medical professional using a different model of discussing a diagnosis with the patient by rephrasing it without the disorder attached. This is super common with ASPD because many pwASPD who are forced into treatment - like House and Wednesday - are resistant to admitting something is "wrong with them", so the professional will use the inital descriptor instead of the entire disorder name. In this case it's "antisocial" with the words personality disorder removed. It's also common to see in media happening for people with BPD, with the character being referred to as "having borderline traits" or "being borderline".

If the professional was referring to them or their traits as "asocial", then it would mean what you guys think it does - they avoid interaction, have a general dislike of socializing/social situations, and generally self-isolate. Antisocial and asocial are not the same, and while you can argue that anyone else in a show calling someone antisocial won't know the difference, their mental health professionals do. Evidently, House and the rest of the cast are also very aware in-canon of mental health, going by the DID episode which was done amazingly well imo. If House knows about Dissociative Identity Disorder, I assure you ASPD is not off of his radar. ASPD is significantly more prevalent than DID, with up to 4% of the US population having ASPD compared to 1% of the population having DID. While there is issues with under-diagnosis, those issues are the case with both disorders, so it's likely that the difference made by that would at most only slightly close the gap between the two. House also researches things purely based on the existence of stigma and/or lack of public knowledge on the subject, and frequently attempts to find out why he thinks and acts the way he does behind the scenes. If you google his symptoms, ASPD would be at least one of the things that comes up. So again, he is not misusing antisocial.

In fact, no one on House, MD would say antisocial where they meant asocial, as they are versed in psychology as a part of dealing with complex cases that have failed repeatedly to be diagnosed. That is shown constantly throughout the show. If you chose 3 episodes at random, I'm willing to bet at least one would show their experience in psychology as one of the team pushes the "it's just mental illness" angle.

All of this is to say that fuck prosocials endless refusal to actually acknowledge ASPD, both in likeable and notably unlikable characters!! Many of them HATE House, yet still can't admit he has ASPD. It's giving ableist, because it is ableist.

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The amount of people who take *any* ASPD rep - including but not limited to House, this was also EXTREMELY common with Wednesday Addams, who is also diagnosed with ASPD in the show Wednesday - and call it "hyperempathetic autism" is... disgusting honestly. I'm autistic too and I get the desire to have representation from non-infantalized characters, I do, but the erasure of ASPD from the very few sources who intentionally make ASPD representation is not how we handle that.

And, as you mentioned, many people intentionally overlook, ignore, or try to explain away any "bad" behavior (see also: ASPD symptoms) because it pushes against their point.

People are just... so desperate to not admit that anyone they like had ASPD that they will directly ignore and speak over the media's direct acknowledgement of ASPD just so they can see us as monsters and still have permission to like that character.

PSA to prosocials, especially those with no other experience with cluster b treatment:

When the therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist says the character "has antisocial traits" or "is antisocial", that's not a descriptor, nor does it mean they don't like people/avoid interaction with people. That's a medical professional using a different model of discussing a diagnosis with the patient by rephrasing it without the disorder attached. This is super common with ASPD because many pwASPD who are forced into treatment - like House and Wednesday - are resistant to admitting something is "wrong with them", so the professional will use the inital descriptor instead of the entire disorder name. In this case it's "antisocial" with the words personality disorder removed. It's also common to see in media happening for people with BPD, with the character being referred to as "having borderline traits" or "being borderline".

If the professional was referring to them or their traits as "asocial", then it would mean what you guys think it does - they avoid interaction, have a general dislike of socializing/social situations, and generally self-isolate. Antisocial and asocial are not the same, and while you can argue that anyone else in a show calling someone antisocial won't know the difference, their mental health professionals do. Evidently, House and the rest of the cast are also very aware in-canon of mental health, going by the DID episode which was done amazingly well imo. If House knows about Dissociative Identity Disorder, I assure you ASPD is not off of his radar. ASPD is significantly more prevalent than DID, with up to 4% of the US population having ASPD compared to 1% of the population having DID. While there is issues with under-diagnosis, those issues are the case with both disorders, so it's likely that the difference made by that would at most only slightly close the gap between the two. House also researches things purely based on the existence of stigma and/or lack of public knowledge on the subject, and frequently attempts to find out why he thinks and acts the way he does behind the scenes. If you google his symptoms, ASPD would be at least one of the things that comes up. So again, he is not misusing antisocial.

In fact, no one on House, MD would say antisocial where they meant asocial, as they are versed in psychology as a part of dealing with complex cases that have failed repeatedly to be diagnosed. That is shown constantly throughout the show. If you chose 3 episodes at random, I'm willing to bet at least one would show their experience in psychology as one of the team pushes the "it's just mental illness" angle.

All of this is to say that fuck prosocials endless refusal to actually acknowledge ASPD, both in likeable and notably unlikable characters!! Many of them HATE House, yet still can't admit he has ASPD. It's giving ableist, because it is ableist.

[dsmp-fictives-ask]

Presentation ^^

Hey so here's how it work :

You can ask anything, we can answer or not, sometimes it will take longer because we don't necessarily control who's fronting

Specify who you're asking your question to ^^

Here are the people you can ask questions to :

Schlatt, Quackity, Technoblade, Sapnap, Tubbo, Glatt, Ghostbur, Tommy, Wilbur and Ranboo.

Some front rarely tho. Most are not from the dsmp canon exactly and have different names (but we'll use their source names).

(Important PSA : fictives are not their source and are not "re-incarnations" or smth, they're part of a system, which is composed of different parts of one personality that are differentiated by dissociation walls between different alternative states. Some of those parts can take the "appearance", name and/or personality traits of a fictive character for various reasons, usually (but not necessarily) because the system can relate to them)

Some people tend to forget that it's not the outdated "multiple personality disorder" but dissociative identity disorder, where the identity is fractured into different dissociative states. Some parts are more differentiated than others, some have exo-memories, various experiences are valid)

Infos about us :

We're bodily adults, some of us are mentally younger or older, age-sliders, sub-system, etc...

As to why we have so many DSMP fictives, nonde of your business ^^

We can understand English and French ^^

See you :D

[shiroi---kumo]

Hi. I've talked about it in the past and I have written posts for every single one of his alters as of today, but this is just a PSA as a reminder that if people are getting confused when I talk about Kumo's different names like different people that's because to him they are.

Kumo has Dissociative Identity Disorder.

So his alters are as follows:

Valkoinen Pilvi; The True King

Snow Cloud; The Gentle Son

Seejvariil; The Lost Moon

Makenshi; The Demon Swordsman

Little Cloud; The Captive Cloud

The Lamb; The Sacrificial Savior 

White Cloud; The Holy Avenger

Kumo; The Free Spirit

To Kumo these are all different people and he is not aware that he has this or is even doing this. His switches are not planned (by him or me) and they are not deliberate (by him or me). This is not a condition he is even aware that he has. His alters are all very different while having overlapping things here and there. His alters will also answer to each other's names but White Cloud is still not Pilvi and Pilvi is still not White Cloud.

I will not tell you when he switches. I will not make it blatant and it is supposed to be hard to tell the difference between them and see the switches but every single one of them has their own ticks and set of rules that only they do and no one else does.

There is nothing wrong with him. He is not broken. He has a medical condition and he needs some help and some therapy and assistance from his doctor. Please just love him as he is.

However the alters all view each other very differently and they look the same at the same time they don't to each other. They also have heavy opinions about each other. This is why I said you can address him in asks.

Opinion examples being: White Cloud fucking loathes Makenshi's existence. (Seriously, he's gone off about it in an ask before.)

I'm bringing this up because there are eight very different clouds that can interact with your muse and I can probably tell who your muse as met if we've been RPing for more than 1 thread. I don't control his switches but I've gotten better at noticing it when he does it, but this is another reason why he never ever names himself in my writing unless he is giving his name.

Example being that the writing never sounds like "and white cloud shifted his weight as his arms crossed." No it's "the swordsman shifted - " / "the prince shifted" / "the unlimited shifted -" / "the misterican shifted." He never ever ever ever ever names himself.

When I get my doodle done you'll see what I mean by the alters all see each other differently but for now, have this.