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Interesting tidbit that has been quietly retconned over the years; Zatanna's dad was originally missing for ~20 years~.
Source: Justice League of America Vol 1 (1960) #51
This even made it one of her and father's earliest Whos Who page:
Both of these are from the mid-late 80's.
And a slightly more 'recent' one from the 90's:
However in DC's 'Blue Ribbon' #5 (1980) by Gerry Conway and Romeo Tanghal she was shown as much older when she first learned that her father went missing:
Later DC's Secret Origins #27 (1988) and her new Whos Who established that she was 18 when her father disappeared:
And that has been the case ever since.
So if initially, Zatara was missing for 21 years, who raised Zatanna? That has never been specified. Aging her up to 18 when her father disappeared was a more sensible explanation as it explains why Zatanna takes after her father so much. Her 2010 ongoing by Dini further emphasized how influential and present Zatara was in Zatanna's life.
Secret Origins #27 also suggested that Dr Mist has been secretly orchestrating the lives of many characters including Zatara and Zatanna (hence the 'despite your gender I decided to raise you' line in the cropped scan above) but that's been ignored ever since and rightfully so I would say.
Only time the 20 years thing was mentioned was in James Robinson's Starman ongoing when the titular Starman, Jack Knight, met with the ghosts of various Golden Age heroes and he uses that fact to great dramatic effect to compare and contrast the relationship between Jack and his superhero father and Zatara's relationship with his daughter:
Source: Starman #37
(See more about Zatara's origins here)
As great as these two pages are, Zatara being missing for 21 years would never be brought up again. Zatara disappearing when Zatanna was 18 and only being gone for a few years instead of two whole decades is the current predominant canon.
Still, for an Elseworlds, it might be fun to consider what would have happened if Zatara did disappear when Zatanna was a child and how Zatanna might have turned out if she was raised by someone else for most of her life and how that might have affected her relationship with her Dad. What if she was raised by Madame Xanadu? Or Jason Blood? Or let's make it really bad and it was a villain like the Wizard or Felix Faust? How would her powers, costume and outlook on life be like?
#zatanna#zatanna zatara#john zatara#john giovanni zatara#starman#jack knight#james robinson#gerry conway#dc whos who#romeo tanghal#dr mist#nommo balewa#allura
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I think more people need to play around with Damian's speech. Don't get me wrong, I love the antiquated Victorian child style of speech, but also he's a teenager that swears plenty in the comics. We really need more scenes like:
Damian: Father, I regret to inform you that I have been assigned in-school suspension for the next three days.
Bruce: What, why?!
Damian: My classmate Kevin was disparaging a female classmate for turning him down, so I called him 'a rizz-less, basic-ass neckbeard bitch' and said I was going to fuck his mom and give her a son she'd actually love.
Bruce: *is completely speechless*
Damian: That is all I needed to tell you. If you will excuse me, I have homework to complete before dinner and patrol.
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Batman gives each of his Robins a different code to use when they’re in trouble and need immediate extraction. He promises that when they call, he’ll drop everything just to get to them, come hell or high water.
Jason, during his time with the League, shares his code with Damian, to be used “only in the direst of circumstances, when you have exhausted all other options.” He doesn’t know if Bruce will answer, given how fractured their relationship was before he died, but it is better than nothing. Every tool counts when they live such dangerous lives.
Damian uses it exactly once, and Bruce, who still feels the loss of his son like a yawning chasm in his chest, responds to it even though he knows it can’t be Jason because Jason’s dead. What he finds, instead of Jason, is a boy in League garbs, drenched in blood from the tips of his midnight-black hair to his too-small feet, with a face that Bruce sees himself and Talia in, requesting asylum from a grandfather who wishes to possess his body. Bruce doesn’t question how this boy who is so clearly his son knew the code. Talia al Ghul is resourceful and places family above all; the code is not beyond her abilities to discover, and she is not above using Bruce’s desperate love for his dead son to ensure that hers does not meet the same fate.
Bruce takes Damian in, because of course he does, and since Jason is dead he allows Damian to keep using the code. After all, it’s not like Jason is alive to use it, right? If someone uses the code, there’s no one it could be but Damian, right?
The next time the code is used, Bruce traces the location to Gotham even though Damian was supposed to be in Bludhaven visiting Dick. But whatever happened that resulted in Damian being in Gotham can wait, because he has already failed one son and he will not fail another, his son is in trouble and he needs to get to him, he needs to—
What he finds, instead of Damian, is a boy (just eighteen, too young, but also too old, but also he will always be a boy to him) in League garbs, drenched in blood from the tips of his midnight-black hair to his too-large feet (when had he gotten so big), wearing the face of his dead son.
(Who, maybe, just maybe, may no longer be so dead.)
#Jason sees Bruce answer his code with such desperation and thinks that maybe Bruce still loves him just a little#maybe he doesn’t need revenge maybe he can just go home#maybe when HE calls it instead of Damian Bruce will come get him too#and because of that there’s no red hood in this au#even though I love crime Lord red hood Jason#maybe he can still be a crime lord idk just not one called red hood who baited Batman into choosing between him and joker#Bruce Wayne#Jason Todd#Damian Wayne#Batman#DC#DC comics#DCU#Batfam#Robin#DC Robin#notfic
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Starting to think a cooler headcanon for Clark’s upbringing might just be that the entire town of Smallville collectively decided to just go with it and accept that Martha and John's kid has superpowers, but we don't talk about it.
Someone's tractor gets stuck and nothing can get it out? "Be a dear and run down to the Kents, would you? Ask for Clark?"
"Why Clark, we need a machine--"
"Run along now."
Or if he kicks too hard and the football vanishes into the upper stratosphere, no it didn't, we all collectively saw it land over there *vague hand movements*
#saw a post about clark being super useful that inspired this one#when they see superman on tv they're like wow i wonder who that nice well behaved boy could be#smallville#superman#clark kent#superman headcanons#dc comics#batfamily
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time travel fanfic idea where Jason comes back to before he was adopted, him and Batman still meet and he still ends up being adopted by Bruce Wayne, but he just refuses to acknowledge Batman and Robin, he acts like a civilian boy, he has over thirteen extracurriculars that Bruce does his best to keep up with. He regularly works out and trains all the fighting he's learned over the years, he goes on a gap year before college to recuperate the all blades and pretends to be the civilian in a family of crime fighting vigilantes.
He's doing pre-med and keeps nagging his siblings to go to college too (Cass, Tim), Duke is the one who spends more time with him bc everyone else is nocturnal and sleep through the day, but Jason likes to drive Duke to his classes and pick him up so they can have lunch together, Damian had a hard time at first, because Jason speaks every language that he speaks and all bat related things have to stay at the cave, his league training didn't prepare him for a civilian brother.
During an attempted kidnapping during one of the Wayne galas, Jason's whole plan almost gets blow up because one of the guys has taken a woman hostage and his Red Hood fried brain just pounced on the dude with all his might, wrestled him for the gun and kept him stuck under his boot with the gun pointed between the guys brows.
He had to pretend to be scared when Batman came to the rescue and act like he didn't know how to handle a gun.
+ Alfred 100% thinks Jason was on a children gang and that's why he's so good with knives, guns and rifles, but who's he to say anything about people's past
#jason who reloaded the gun on instinct: omg how did i do that#red hood#jason todd#dc comics#bruce wayne#batfam#batman#writing prompt
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Need a teen! Bruce au where he’s exactly like Justice League! Batman and Battinson in one. That mf put the fear of every god in Ra’s Al Ghul.
Everytime he’s in a room with someone over 30 “Teenagers” by My Chemical Romance plays in the background.
Despite that, in his own way, he’s as gentle as can be with his league. Give me a young Diana who’s getting spat on and ripped apart by the media in a way not one of her male teammates get.
And she’s Wonder Woman. She shouldn’t be affected by it. And she is, anyway. Bruce relates to that in an uncomfortable degree.
“When I first became Batman, weak men tried standing in my way, too. “
“And what did you do?”
“I stepped over them.”
He has a tiny Robin he occasionally has to keep on a leash.
Give me somewhat teen mom Bruce who struggles to wrangle his unruly six year old who likes flipping from rooftop to rooftop and thinks fighting Bane is a piece of cake.
“If Tati can do it, so can I!”
“Dick,” he paused, before handing him a handfull of candy. “Wonderful emotional manipulation. Good job.”
“:D”
#I LOVE HIMMMMM HES SO AWKWARD AND COOL TO ME#give me the league fangirling over him at every turn and he’s just Tired of them. has to call teen Clark who’s Perry White’s intern like.#‘Kal— please write about something other than Batman.’#‘Bruce. I cannot say no to you. Please don’t ask me to do that.’#alfred is extremely tired. also extremely in need of Bruce to stop being self sufficient.#let him take care of you daMN IT—#teen bruce wayne#bruce wayne#batman#batdad#writing#dick grayson#dc comics
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The real reason why none of the bat-boys are allowed in the kitchen
#they do this everytime Alfred is out of town#they wanted to include cass who took the picture#it's like where is waldo#but where is cass#happy birthday jason todd#batbros#batkids#batboys#batfamily#bat brothers#batfam#batfam shenanigans#batman#jason todd#red hood#damian wayne#robin#dc robin#dick grayson#nightwing#tim drake#red robin#art#fanart#dc#dc comics#dc fanart#cassandra cain#orphan dc
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the babies (dick grayson & bruce wayne) (please don't flop this took a stupid amount of time) (i used a different pen and im not a fan switch back to my bae 😒) (i looove dick grayson as robin)
#nightwing#dc comics#dcu#dc fanart#dick grayson#bruce wayne#dc robin#robin#robin art#dick grayson art#dick grayson and bruce wayne#dc universe#fanart#commisions open#my art#artists on tumblr#digital art#artwork#batman#batman and robin#hugs#look he's hugging his son#they are so silly#drawing#drawing them happy#who do i do next hmmm#art#digital commisions#taking requests#taking commisions
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my most controversial batman opinion to date
#if it wasnt clear its not a gender thing. its just a dumb name. not the dumbest name cass has had tho that goes to orphan#imo nobody should be batman after bruce because the point is that the bat team he establishes is stronger than he could ever be alone#to him batman is also a hero who suffered alone a lot and he doesnt want anyone else to have to be that kind of hero#bruce's legacy isnt batman its his family and gotham itself#but thats too deep for a shitpost#batman#cassandra cain#batfam#dick grayson#damian wayne#dc#dc comics#mine
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Accidentally becoming a Batfam twitter account
Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 4
#i cant be the only one who has made this#dick grayson is sooooo annoying about the clown code in front of joker#again i think i stole the @ from a different twitter au acc sorry#batfam#batfamily#the joker#dc#dick grayson#nightwing
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Love when the Justice League thinks Batman is a cryptid. This believe is only further enhanced by the face his sidekick, Robin, is clearly a shapeshifter, what with changing their height, hair style, skin tone, and even gender.
Batman clearly thinks that by having Robin look different every couple of years, it will show that they aren't cryptids like it would if Robin didn't age.
But the Justice League is too smart for that. They figured it out! But they are good friends (colleagues) and won't spill Batman's secret, but they will drop hints to him that they know, to show that they are smarter than he gives them credit for (they aren't.)
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When the batkids learn that the league thinks this, they start periodically going to the Watchtower with Bruce, taking turns dressed up as Robin.
The League is surprised as Robin seems to prefer taking the form of a child, perhaps to have villains underestimate them? But they just assume Robin is trying out something new.
The batkids definitely tell eachother about what was said/happened as to further sell the act of Robin being a shapeshifter, because clearly it has to be the same person, Robin knows what happened, so it couldn't of been someone else dressed as Robin.
#Bruce just lets it happen because#1) it helps keep an air of mystery around him#if people think he's a cryptid and Robin's a shapeshifter they wont figure out his secret identity#and 2) his kids are getting along#sure they are bonding though mischief#but a win is a win#batman#dc#dc comics#batfam#batfamily#bruce wayne#batkids#jason todd#red hood#dick grayson#nightwing#dc robin#even one's who werent a Robin join in#ie Cass and Duke#the justice league#justice league#justice league meets the batfam#cryptid batfam#cryptid batman#misunderstandings#kat's library
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i am unironically obsessed with adam west batman not only trying to be a good dad to robin, but actually succeeding. also love robin's insane energy levels and his ability to go from seething bloodlust to manic glee in record time. i think any superman worth his S would fit right into the family ^_^
#this show just makes me giggle it's sooooo silly and fun and snappy#also as a fellow Superman Preferrer i love the idea of Number One Superman Fan Dick Grayson. bias? who's biased???#art#comic#dc#superbat#batman 66#batman#bruce wayne#dc robin#dick grayson#superman#clark kent
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identity reveals are always fun
#batcave search history that night: friend has no name. atlantis naming conventions. atlantian names. r there birth certificates in atlantis#theyre so fun to draw guys im sick with it#also: everyone thinking 'But his name is Garth'#I know that and YOU know that but he doesn't until like..... a few years later. canonically#Unnamed Youth 'Aqualad' No Last Name#and arthur does call him both minnow and tadpole so wally n dick r both right in their own ways#and for ppl who really dont know. garth was abandoned as an infant and didnt hang w anyone until arthur took him in lol. what a life#and arthur girl...... was aqualad the best and only u could do#teen titans#fab five#donna troy#wally west#dick grayson#garth of shayeris#roy harper#dc#dc comics#my art#everyone hangin by the salt water pool so garth can hang w them :]
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revamped some sketches!!
#ppl who say they are looking at each other: u are right#my art#batman#batfam#batfamily#batman comics#batfamily fanart#dc#dc fanart#dc comics#red hood fanart#batfam fanart#red hood#jason todd#jason todd fanart#dick grayson#dick grayson fanart#nightwing#nightwing fanart
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I think Dick and Jason would have multiple “what the actual fuck are you saying right now” with Tim and Damian when it comes to quality of life/monetary differences. Sure, Dick and Jason got used to Bruce’s “is $100 a good enough tip on a $30 bill?” shit, but hearing Tim talking about a new laptop he bought for $5000 literally is like a punch in the gut.
If they ever went on a cruise (which they totally wouldn’t because cruises are floating death traps), Jason and Dick would be in awe of the fancy amenities, where as Damian would be unsatisfied with the quality, since he grew up with every single amenity known to man. Tim would just feel like it’s all normal since the Drake’s were extravagant and travelled all over the planet.
Jason : My bedroom is bigger than my fucking apartment.
Dick : I could do a full gymnastics routine with the space in my room.
Tim :
Dick :
Tim : My room is normal sized…
Jason : You grew up in a mega mansion. I hardly think you’re the benchmark of a normal room-
Damian : I must agree with Drake. This room is frankly underwhelming.
Dick, staring wildly at him : What do you mean underwhelming- Dames there’s an aquarium wall in your room.
Damian : Yes. Underwhelming.
Jason :
Dick :
Jason : Do you want to-
Dick : Jump off the boat? Yes.
#batfam#batman#dc comics#dcu#jason todd#comics#dick grayson#batbros#tim drake#damian wayne#bruce wayne#headcanon#i have a friend who is super mega rich and has a butler and shit#and she just couldn’t comprehend that I didn’t have an allowance as a kid#and that i had to wait for my birthday or christmas to get stuff#she’s one of my favorite people but she really has no concept of money#it’s really funny tbh#i feel like that’s how tim is. just wouldn’t get it#not damian though. he just doesn’t give a shit.#he’d just steal whatever he wanted tbh
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