#SO many batkids omg

[theloneotaku158]

Kidnapper: "We want the money, or the little girl gets it, Wayne!" Bruce: "Little girl--? Oh. OH. Ohoho, you kidnapped Cass? (ominous chuckling) Have fun sweetie~" Kidnapper: "Wha-- are you insane?! We have your freakin' daughter tied up and--" every thug in the room turns around to find Cass' seat suddenly vacant "--at… g-gun… point?"

Bruce hangs up the phone

All the thugs start frantically searching around the room, wondering where the hell their hostage vanished to.

Cass, lurking in the dark corner of the room, seemingly clinging to the wall above them like fucking Spider-Man: *Prowler.mp4*

Cass strolls back into Wayne Manor like 5 minutes later, just kinda shrugging when Bruce asks if she had fun being in a hostage situation. She doesn't get the appeal.

the batkids getting kidnapped must be such a hassle for bruce cuz he has to play 20 questions just to figure out which kid it is.

"The short one? So not Dick or Jay. Damian is home right now, so not him. That leaves 4. Black hair? Not Stephanie, okay. Looks bored? Honestly, that doesn't narrow things down at all. A girl? Oh, okay it's Cassandra. Alright, tell her to not take too long, dinner is in 30 minutes."

[vigil-antes]

Do you like have any good comics recommendations or anything to do with the bat fam, I don't have many DC friends so idk where to start

hiii omg ive been WAITING for this. you didnt give me any kind of parameters for what kind of fics you want so im going to list some of those i like most. its going to be a long one so buckle up:

My DC Fic Best Pics:

Short & Sweet (Oneshots/Less than 10k words)

Send to All: Crack, the bats have a sex pollen release form

glucose guardian: Funny, Tim being the caped community's accidental sugar daddy

A Brief Interview: Sweet, Damian & Tim Ageswap

curiosity and the cat: Cute, Timbern Catlad AU

Dead Meme: Crack, Jason centric, Jason keeps referencing dead memes

Have I Told You About Minnie?: Sweet, Bruce&Steph

Multi Media Marketing Mistakes: Crack, Social Media AU

an inappropriate explosion: Funny, Superman calls Batman to reel in his unruly son (Red Hood)

though your eyes will need some time to adjust: so sweet GAH, Bruce&Steph

Girl what were YOU doing at the devil's sacrament?: Funny, Timbern after the disaster with the chaos cult

Tim Drake: Bisexual Awakener Extraordinaire: Funny, YJ experiencing the mandated Robin-Induced sexuality crisis

Brotherhood: Tim&Damian, Damian Time travels right into Jason's attack on Titans Tower

Priceless: Crack, Nightwing&The Bats messing with Bane

User SuperRob: TImBerKon. Need I say more?

The Mystery of the Superboy Shirts: TimKon, Tim keeps stealing Kon's SB Shirts

Thicker Than Water: Funny, Batbros slice of life-ish

Big Bird, Commence Attack!: Crack, Jason's revenge plan involves dressing up as Big Bird

World’s Saddest Breakfast Club: Sweet, Batkids Bonding

red chrome: Funny, Tim's health is concerning enough to stop Jason from attacking him in Titans Tower

Hot Dog, French Fries: Tim&Damian, Damian gets dosed with truth serum

#SoftRobin: Funny. Damian-centric Social Media AU

Hurry Up Don't Take So Long: Sweet, DamiJon through the years

Paris vs Gotham: Crack, Social Media AU Ladybug crossover (no ships)

Can I tempt you?: TimKon, Light angst, Sweet

Bedtime Stories (15-50k Words)

Baby Birds and Bat Caves: SO funny, genuinely one of the best fics ive read, Tim-Centric, Meta(?)/Cryptid Tim, inspired by Welcome to Nightvale

Gotham Knockoff: Tim-Centric, Alley Kid Tim pretends to be the Drakes' kid to get closer to the Bats

In This or Any Other Universe: Nightwing ends up in the The Batman (2022) Universe

Dangerous and Noble Things: Kid Tim gets kidnapped by the League of Shadows. No one realizes until, four years later, the Bats notices something wrong

In this Town We Call Home: Kid Tim attracts Batman's attention to get adopted

With Violet Light: Jason finds a ring of power and becomes a Star Sapphire

Little Birds’ Wings: Jason&Other Batkids, Jason comes back from the League to a drastically different Gotham

the pact of our youth: Reverse Robins Au, TimBerKon after Tim dies (and comes back different)

Pretty Boys and Identity Problems: Sweet, TimKon, To get away from his crush on Robin, Superboy gets entangled with Gotham pretty boy Tim Drake

let's get mischievous: TimBern, during the chaos cult ritual, Bernard gets possessed by Dyonisus

It Wouldn't Be Make Believe (If You Believed In Me): DamiJon fake dating AU where they don't know each other and meet while Robin is investigating a case in Metropolis (they're uni aged btw)

I’m Pretty Sure Tim Steals Clothes: An Elaboration In The Form Of A Long Fic: Cute, TimKon, Tim keeps stealing Kon's SB shirts

Into the Deep Dark Night: Tim-centric, Tim&Jason, Tim dies as a kid and loses a bit of his humanity

Alcatraz, But On Hardmode: Sweet, Tim-Centric, A YJ mission goes wrong and Tim has to rely on Jason to get him and his team out.

His Head is Bloody, but Unbowed: Jason-centric AU where he never stole the batmobile tires, but ends up meeting the Bats anyways after he saves Robin

A Good Place: Very soft, Damian&Bruce, Damian time travels to Batman's first year of activity.

Fairy Godbrother: Sweet, The batboys time travel to each others' pasts and help their brothers when they were younger

best laid plans: Tim&Jason, Tim finds Jason after he crawls out of his grave, bt they get goth taken by the league

Mystery Man: Cute, BirdFlash, The bats aren't known to the JL, Different first meeting

One Eternal Round: Super original, Bruce&Robins, My Hero Academia crossover where Aizawa, Midoriya, Kirishima, Todoroki and Bakugo remember their past lives as Gotham vigilantes

A Meditation on Railroading: Tim-Centric, Tim's dad leaves him stranded away from Gotham with no way back. Jason finds him and brings him home

the ship of theseus: Jason-Centric, Percy Jackson crossover, Jason and Percy are secretly twins

Why They Shouldn't Have Social Media: Crack, Social media AU

Cracked Foundation:Soft, Jason&Damian, They get stuck under a collapsed building together

Monolith: Bruce&The Batfamily, The birds aren't known to the JL, The JL meeting each member of the Batfam for the first time

Loading and Aspect Ratio: SO GOOOOOOD, Batfamily, The bats use wing prothesis but everyone think they're metas

Three’s a Crowd (But I’m Here if You Are): Cute, Funny, TimBerKon

A Softer Gotham: Steph&Bruce, Steph-Centric, Steph time travels to a time before Batman, becoming Gotham's first vigilante

greatest of ease: Dick-Centric, POV Outsider, Dick Grayson as seen in the eyes of the people surrounding him

Yesterday's Voices: Bruce&Batkids, Bruce's memory of the past five years gets erased leaving behind a softer man, one who doesn't remember Jason's death

show me yesterday, for i can’t find today: Jason-Centric, Jason&The Batfam, Robin!Jason and Red Hood switch places

Eat Your Heart Out, Social Life (50k+ words)

Vultures, Squirrels, and Other Flying Menaces: So good, AU where instead of becoming Robin, Tim hires Deathstroke to kill Joker, leading to the assassin adopting him and the other Batkids.

I’m alone here, I think: TimKon, Witch Tim, Tim is erased from everyone's memories and leaves Gotham. Kon finds him anyways.

You, Me, and the Humanity in Between: Soft and sweet, Bruce&His kids, Non-Human Batkids

cards on the table: Tim-Centric, Tim&Batfam, Tim's parents fake their death and leave Tim behind. He uses his stalking skills to become a fortuneteller scammer. Against his will, he ends up befriending the Waynes

Roasted: Funny, Cute, Dick-Centric, Talon AU, Dick&Batfam, Recovered Talon Dick opens a coffee shop that ends up becoming Rogue-Vigilante neutral grounds

Code Bat: Batfam, The bats aren't known, they have an emergency code to only be used in emergency case when revealing affiliation is inevitable (idk how to explain but its good trust me)

Minimum Height Requirement: SOFT, Bruce&His kids, Batfam, Batman doesn't let his kids become vigilantes before they turn eighteen

Running Headlong into My Arms: Soft, No Capes AU, even without Batman, Bruce finds his family

Liminal Space: Tim-Centric, Tim&Bruce, Tim&Batfam, Tim ends up in a softer and kinder version of his world

Robins and Other Flightless Birds: Bruce-Centric, Bruce&His kids, A Batman without kids is visited by another version of himself. He finds tha he, too, wants kids.

Laughter Lines: JayRoy, Soft, Jason helps raise Lian, before and after his death

Stars of the Forgotten: Bruce-Centric, Meta!Batkids, Bruce&His kids, on the search for a missing Barbara Gordon, Batman stumbles upon five metahuman kids in need of a home

Latchkey: Sweet, Tim-Centric, Robin!Jason, BatWatch!Tim, The Waynes get concerned with their lonely neighbor, Tim Drake

Ain't No Compass, Ain't No Map: Funny, Tim&Jason, Borderline abandoned Tim Drake gets taken in by Crime Lord Red Hood. CPS tries investigating, with little results

And that's it for today. If you're still here, thank you so much and seriously, some of these are so good, so read them, trust me!

Sorry i took so long to get back to you, i had to organize the mess in my AO3 bookmarks and compiling this took me ages.

Let me know what you all think, and if you ever want more!!!! (Yes i have more. It's a problem)

[frownyalfred]

I’m just going to copy and paste the comment I just left:

holy fucking shit. OMG. this was incredible. i should’ve KNOWN that Bruce would do the sacrifice play, but it still came out of left field for me. And you gave so many hints! It’s kinda funny how one man’s (monster’s) action created all of this. Thanks to the Joker, this world is literally a post-apocalyptic society. I love how you left it open-ended in that we don’t know what’s going to happen next, but also gave a firm ending. And the boys! Damian, I feel so sad for him. I’m sure somewhere deep (DEEP) down, he knew 100% that Bruce would do this, but he couldn’t acknowledge it. He holds onto Duke’s words, even though he knows it’s a small possibility. And I love how Jason was the one to put together the pieces.

“Yeah,” Todd said, when Duke didn’t continue. “Right there. You got it after all. Took you a second, huh?”

Usually it’s Tim or Dick who put the pieces together, but it’s so fun to remember that Jason is a detective too! He was trained by Bruce, and he knows Bruce’s nuances better than most. Oh, god, I also loved how you made Dick, Jason & Tim so resigned to this. I’m sure they know that Bruce would always go this, even if it didn’t occur to two of them (I’m sure it did after Duke left). And Steph and Cass! Your endnotes make so much sense in them being “paired” with those specific batboys.

Ugh, there’s so much thought and love put into this fic, and I love it!

Thank you for highlighting that line! It was one of my favorites in this chapter. Maybe that, and then Bruce's line about his hand at the end of the chapter. Jason is so smart, and even if he won't accept that Bruce can't be saved, that doesn't mean he can't see the writing on the wall.

I'm glad Cass and Steph made it into this fic! I like to think the Batkids naturally gravitated to pairs post-Regime otherwise they would spiral and hurt themselves, or others. I don't know who Dick was paired with, initially -- maybe Alfred? -- but I think it works for most of them. Jason had Roy, then he has Steph. Tim has Kon. Damian and Cass stuck together no matter what.

[reginalusus]

Given that Harvey just wants to kill Dick right now in your BruHarv fic, it'd be really interesting to see what would be happening if it took place when Jason was Robin instead or if he'd already died and befriended Harv as Red Hood. Like, maybe he'd be trying to kill Tim instead and/or sharing gossip and doubts with Jason, not realizing that he's talking with another one of Bruce's kids? What do you think the dynamic would be?

HELP, SORRY, the way you opened up with Harvey wanting to just fucking kill Dick made me giggle a bit, lmao. Things with Dick are going to get a bit complicated, I promise...

Anyway.

See, I was actually thinking of making the fic a sort of sequel, but, like, not required reading, obviously. A very loose sequel, if you will, because the Bruharvey fic is definitely a certain... genre, that is not for everyone, while a Jason-Harvey fic would decidedly be very different, lmao.

And OMG, I think the idea of Harvey babbling on about the Batfam to Jason - not knowing he was a Robin and was affiliated with Bruce - would be interesting.

He'd definitely be more open, I think. More visceral and blunt. At least Two-Face would anyway. Initially, I think Jason would play along with this because his rage and hurt would still be fresh. They'd bond in hatred.

But then the more Harvey talks, the more Jason gets quiet. He decides to listen more than contribute to the conversation, because whether he likes it or not, a part of him is still thankful for Bruce. And Harvey would obviously pick up on this because he's NOT a dumbass; he's very intuitive and observant.

But then, of course, you'd have to have the reveal that - *gasp* - Jason was a batkid all along! Would Harvey feel betrayed by this?

No, I really don't think so.

I think he'd fall into a pit of guilt and confusion. Robin, Red Hood - more duality stuff that would fuck with his head. Why is this guy, who he was initially was very brutal to, whose father he killed, lending him an ear and cooperating? Jason is more like Bruce than he thinks.

So many conduits... but the fic I have planned is mostly character-driven and explores how I, personally, think a Harvey-Jason dynamic would work.

So that means themes of duality, the trauma that binds, sharing a common enemy (but is it really?), and of course the 'villain takes in the morally questionable/troubled son of the hero who the villain once loved/was friends with' thing... but also exploring how a character's past lives in their present, and how it infects them.

Sorry for rambling, I just wrote this as I was thinking, lmao.

[breesperez139]

Omg yes!! And then they find out that Danny literally can’t live in the Manor because of actual legit trauma. Or that it was Danny who requested prolonging the sibling introductions because he wasn’t ready to be around so many nosey and pushy bat-detective siblings who wouldn’t give him any privacy. Like half of what they’re blaming Bruce for are things Danny specifically asked for/needed.

And honestly, after 2 years, Danny and Bruce sort of liked the dynamic they had. Danny knew Bruce had other kids, but he was selfish and he wasn’t ready to share their dad during their one-on-one bonding time or have more family. The pain of the ones he lost are still there and he can’t bare to think he replaced them. The only exception being Bruce because they had met before the explosion.

As for the batkids, they are hurt. For Dick, it has been a long time since Bruce had treated him that way. Jason hates Danny because Bruce chose to have a good relationship with the new kid than to bother repairing the relationship he had with him. Damian also hates Danny because Bruce has never treated him the way he treats Danny.

The hurt and betrayal runs deep but the more they analyze the relationship Danny has with Bruce, the more they notice just how different they react. Bruce will fuck up and Danny will tell him what he did wrong before forgiving him. Anyone else would have lashed out and gone no contact with B for at least a few days until he figured it out himself. Danny though, he does everything a son should do, everything the batkids don’t do. Danny was the perfect civilian son, Bruce’s favorite, and they hated how Bruce hid Danny as if saying they would find a way to ruin Danny.

Say no to this, Bruce.

A few days ago Bruce had a fight with his sons, now he doesn't even remember why, it was probably something stupid that escalated and he didn't know how to stop it, it was probably his fault.

He was alone at the mansion, Damian was at Dick's house, Jason was ignoring him more than usual and Tim was on a case where he didn't want help, not from him at least, even Duke was away, it wasn't a good week for Bruce.

He grabbed a phone he had hidden and only took out before going to sleep alone in his room, hesitated for a few seconds and sent a message to the only number added.

His "thing" with the boy, Danny Fenton, had started four years ago, the boy was lost and Bruce found him when he coincidentally went for a walk as a civilian.

Danny was so charmed by Bruce (for some reason) that he gave him his hotel room number to keep talking about the universe, and later his home number.

Danny was a good, funny and witty kid, a very smart too, with parents who didn't deserve him because they didn't notice their son's brilliance.

Danny was a good boy with a not-so-good life, a strong, independent boy who wasn't always positive but didn't always let himself fall apart.

That's why when Danny answered his message with a call with him crying and asking for help, he could only go to his rescue without looking back, barely remembering to tell Alfred of his departure.

When he arrived he found only tragedy.

His family and friends had died, an explosion at an unfortunate time, Danny had no one in the world besides his godfather and Bruce, and he didn't want to fall into Vlad's clutches, so he was desperate.

He also told him about Phantom, and Bruce could only hug him and promise him that no one was going to find him.

The first thing that came to his mind was to take him to his mansion, Danny was like his son, it was the most logical action... except that Danny still looked up to him and trusted him a lot, and wasn't that a scary thought?

Bringing Danny to the mansion would involve many things, Danny would meet his children, which might make Danny see him differently, goodbye to his admiration and affection, goodbye to spending time "together" watching bad movies to criticize them, goodbye to quiet conversations and asking for advice, goodbye to trust.

Bringing Danny to the mansion would mean having him physically close but keeping him away in every other possible way.

"Danny doesn't want anyone else to know about Phantom." Bruce repeated to himself as he took Danny to a small, hidden apartment in Gotham, a cozy little place where Vlad wouldn't find Danny (and neither would Bruce's family).

[jaytodd1129]

If (New 52) Batman killed (New 52) Joker in the Batmobile after a series of events lead him to do it and then later, turned himself in unmasked, what would your reaction(s) be? And for that matter, what would the Bat Family's reactions be if they knew what happened?

Thanks @frostbite883! 

 Honestly, for me, it doesn’t much matter whether we’re talking about pre-Flashpoint Bats or post-New 52 Bats. For me, Batman can never kill. I don’t mind seeing different interpretations in which he’s gone a lil bonkers and crossed the line, but I just think that for him to be able to function properly, he really DOES need to draw that line in the sand and NEVER cross it. If Batman crosses that line, going crazy is pretty much an inevitability, imo. I don’t consider Bruce to be the most stable of individuals to begin with, and I really believe that not crossing that line is one of the few things that keep him more or less “together”.

If he DID kill the Joker, because everything went wrong, and as you said it was just a series of unfortunate events that left Bruce with absolutely no other choice than to kill the Joker, it would definitely be very tragic to me. Because I would see it as him giving up the very last part of himself for the greater good. And, in a way, the Joker would win. He would finally be able to make Bruce break his ONE rule, and therefore, would break HIM. The only thing left would be 1) for Bruce to go batshit (no pun intended.. maybe :v) and start killing all the bad guys or 2) he DOESN’T go batshit, so he turns himself in (as you said), but it takes such a toll on his mental and emotional health that he loses his sense of identity and will to live.

Now when it comes to the batfam.. I find this kind of tricky to answer? especially for characters like Dick that have fluctuated a bit personality and principle-wise throughout time.. I think they would all be absolutely shocked and MIGHT attempt to stop Bruce from turning himself in IF they know about him killing the Joker before he turns himself in, that is. Although knowing Bruce, he probably wouldn’t give anyone the chance to save him lmao. I think Alfred would mourn the fact that Bruce killed him, but nevertheless stand by him for whatever he needs before he is taken in. I think Dick would be in complete shock, and would be confused as to how to feel. Jason? Jason would be PISSED. Cause he’d probably reason if Bruce was gonna kill the Joker eventually anyway.. then why not do it because he killed HIM? Or maybe now that he has a sort of makeshift family of his own in the Outlaws, he’s above that, who knows.. I think Damian would stand by his father 100%, especially in front of everyone else, while privately have his reservations. There are SO many ways it could go for the batkids and I’ve already made this answer waaay too long than needed be lmao so I’m just gonna say that in general, a lot of confusion and some disappointment or anger depending on the person. But yeah, I mean, it’s something that goes against everything Bruce has taught them since he took his kids in, so it’s hard even for the ones that are REALLY trying to defend his actions to reconcile reality with his teachings.

TLDR: It would be an ANGST-FEST!!!

[fancyfade]

Every time I see some take like "any other batkid dying cheapens Jason's death" its so confusing dang its like Jason fans think the only memorable thing he's ever done is dying

[coloredsnowo]

My brucie wayne au is just the no capes AU except. the batkids are still superheros. just bruce isn’t.

But yknow. Lets step this up. I think Itd be so fun if Clark was still superman. And Bruce also doesnt know his secret identity.

Bruce: Kids, I want you to meet my boyfriend Clark! He’s a journalist from metropolis.

Dick (having dealt with Bruce’s MANY partners): Erm. Hi. Nice to meet you.

Jason: Ignore him. He’s weird around new people.

Tim: Jason. You literally tried to get scare away of one of Bruce’s ex-girlfriends after watching the parent trap.

Jason: Okay??? Well she was a gold di-

Bruce: Anyways!! There’s my youngest- Damian, and then Cassandra.

Cass ans Damian: *silently nod*

Clark: You’ve got a charming family Bruce!

later that night when the batkids are fighting a rogue, superman decides to come and help.

Sups: Don’t worry! I’m here to help!

Dick (giggling): Omg h-hi superman :DD *knocks out a henchman*

Jason: Ignore him hes weird around new people.

Sups: You really are a charming family….

*group realization*

(part 2)

[sohotthateveryonedied]

so i’m trying to write duke and i don’t think i’m writing him right. how would you describe his personality because with don’t trust fanon lmfaooo

(this was only supposed to be a paragraph or two i swear to god)

1. first things first, duke is a hardcore gryffindor. don’t let the yellow color scheme mislead you, okay. and while most of the time he’s depicted in fanon as “omg this family is crazy and i’m the only sane one,” it’s actually pretty much the opposite? if anything, i think the other batkids would be like “oh finally, someone who can match our level of chaotic energy. HEY DUKE WANNA BUNGEE JUMP OFF WAYNE TOWER—” and an hour later they’d all be in the batcave getting lectured by bruce for leading poor sweet innocent duke astray when really he was already planning on doing that this weekend.

listen, this is the kid who once jumped off a bridge to escape police. this is the dude who decided to fight criminals while they’re still eating their wheaties at 6am in a bright yellow suit. and while duke seems to be the best at following bruce’s command at the moment due to having been trained by him most recently compared to the others and is still figuring out how to be a hero, i’m positive that if bruce weren’t here to guide him, duke would be running around gotham taking down criminals anyway. i mean, he literally did do that with the “we are robin” kids. plus there was the whole thing when he was like ten years old and decided “i am going to singlehandedly stop the riddler in my light up sketchers and pikachu backpack. try and stop me.” 

duke is headstrong and has a strong drive toward heroism. he’s an extremely enthusiastic and passionate person in general, and i try to capture a little of that when i write him, even with mundane things like trying to beat his siblings to the last cupcake. 

2. another thing i noticed is that duke swears like a sailor in comics? seriously, this boy could give jason a run for his money with how many “@#!%” speech bubbles there are. i don’t know if this is just a trend the writers added in the comics i’ve read of him, or if it’s a genuine trait throughout every comic he’s in, but that’s something to make note of when writing dialogue for duke. after all, he did grow up in the narrows, so it makes sense that he’d use a lot of swearing and slang in his everyday vernacular.

3. i would also make a point of noting that duke is fairly young compared to the rest of the batfamily, being the second youngest after damian. duke is still a teenager in high school, and he acts like it. he’s got homework and friends and is eager to make a difference in gotham, trying to juggle everything and make it all work somehow. he’s stubborn and doesn’t give up easily, so it’s important to write him as someone who is trying to save the world while also struggling with finding time to study for his next math test. he's human. he doesn’t get to dedicate all of his time to fighting crime like cass or jason might be able to, since duke is still a mostly normal teenager with teenager problems.

4. and don’t forget that unlike the other batkids, duke still has two living parents. sure, they’re jokerized and might not ever be the same again, but they’re alive and that’s what holds him back from letting himself get as close to the waynes as he wants to. duke won’t be calling bruce “dad” anytime soon, and i think he’d have some internal struggle over stuff like holidays and birthdays with the waynes, remembering what his parents are missing out on and wondering if joining the wayne family is a betrayal to them. duke is very conflicted over this, even if he doesn’t say it directly. stuff like ducking out of movie night early or feeling a bittersweet pang during thanksgiving dinner makes sense for someone in his situation. 

(i usually ignore that aspect in my fics because i want duke to just be adopted and part of the family already, but not everyone does that, and that’s perfectly fine.)

5. honestly, duke is such a caring individual and we as a fandom need more of him being a shoulder for people to lean on because he’s?? so soft?? duke can be so sympathetic and rational when it comes to emotional problems. it seems like duke internalizes every bit of advice he gets from the people around him and uses it to inspire others and help them through their own problems. as tough and hotheaded as duke can sometimes be, he really is good when it comes to emotions.

6. duke is a smartass. he will 100% use sarcasm against any and every authority figure he meets, usually just for the hell of it. 

7. he’s very frank in general, usually the first to be like “okay full disclosure, we’re about to die right now. that sucks. anyway—” in a situation. he’s honest and tends to be upfront about his fears/anxieties, usually for comic relief, but i think it still counts.

8. okay i have to add that duke is also kind of a punk? he and jason have a lot in common because of this: they both grew up in one of gotham’s worse areas (jay in crime alley and duke in the narrows) and they’re both highkey deliquents. duke has no problem getting into fights or talking back to authority figures, and it’s gotten him in hot water on more than one occasion. it’s why he kept getting moved around the foster system before bruce took him in because no one wanted to keep him.

9. he’s also gotten so close with the other batkids and we love to see it!! duke calls cass “sis” and treats damian like the annoying little brother he never had and i adore every second of it. we haven’t gotten a lot of interactions between duke and the others aside from training and stuff, but he and jason have the whole “punk kid who got adopted by batman and is baffled by how rich people live” going for them, so they can bond over that. and duke is a thinker like tim, so they can hang out and do puzzles or play chess or whatever it is that smart people do. (and duke and steph are BESTIES i don’t care what anyone says.)

10. most of all, duke is still learning how the whole hero thing works. he’s young and he’s trying his best, but he also makes mistakes. he will be impulsive and screw up, and he’ll try and merge the lessons batman’s taught him and that his parents taught him and that other heroes teach him until it all makes sense in his own mind. duke isn’t experienced like dick or even damian, so he’s going to be lagging behind for a while until he grows until the role he’s made for himself.

other miscellaneous details to include: 

- duke is dating izzy, who used to be part of the “we are robin” gang with him - he used to live at the manor and now lives with his cousin jay, but honestly i just have him living at the manor in everything i write because i like it better that way - he can control shadows and light now! what a king! - duke secretly writes poetry and is good at creative writing in general  - this:

- duke is super smart?? he figured out that agent 37 was dick grayson without even trying?? i’m so proud of him - his biological father is this supervillain called gnomon so now duke has got four parents: his mom, his dad, his supervillain dad, and bruce (plus selina if you count her as the batkids’ stepmom, which i do) - jason calls him “narrows” and i love that

- and, lastly, the most important panel in the history of comics:

[bigskydreaming]

kalen I'm making a dick grayson playlist what songs remind you of dick because my music knowledge is uhhhh zero

OMG literally too many there are so many. But I get asked this often enough that okay this is me finally sucking it up and ACTUALLY going through my long-as-fuck character playlist for whenever I write Dick Grayson fic stuff.

So here, in alphabetical order.....some are more 'him' than others, and I tend to have multiple songs from the same artist for character playlists because not surprisingly artists tend towards certain personal themes that recur in their work and so when an artist has a theme I feel is Dick Grayson-esque, I end up putting a bunch of their stuff on.

Also some of these songs are about romantic relationships and that's the vibe I have them on here for, like Uninvited I have on here because I think it evokes a lot of Feels and thoughts about Dick's issues with romantic relationships, whereas some songs like Too Close, What If I Was Nothing, Monsters, etc, are definitely songs about romances but I have them on the playlist more for the feels and thoughts they evoke for Dick's relationships with family members, etc.

Also also a lot of them I pick just for a weird fusion of jazz and rock that I feel fits Dick well and inspires me when I'm writing him even just in action scenes. Like Alex Clare, Apartment 26, Portugal, Roisin Murphy, etc.

Also also also The Third: I can write for a long time in one sitting and tend to have like, ten hour long writing sessions when I have the opportunity so I have very long playlists hfasklfhklahfalkf.

Anyway, what the hell, peruse as you please:

1) For Your Entertainment, Whataya Want From Me - Adam Lambert

2) Beautiful Thieves, Love Like Winter - AFI

3) Uninvited - Alanis Morrisette

4) Too Close - Alex Clare

5) The Waiting One, What If I Was Nothing - All That Remains

6) Monsters (featuring blackbear) - All Time Low

7) In The Shadows - Amy Stroup

8) Feel Good Drag - Anberlin

9) Give Me More - Apartment 26

10) The Boys of Summer - The Ataris (this is a classic song with a lot of covers lol but the Ataris version is IT for me because for some reason its like, the definitive DickRoy song for me and its like....Roy singing it about Dick as adults thinking about when they were teenagers lol yes this one is very specific)

11) Kill Me - AWIM (I don't have MANY Dick as Talon feels but this is like, my Dick as Talon song)

12) Fuck the World, Move Me, The Jester - Badflower

13) Playground - Bea Miller (This is my Dick getting started in Bludhaven song)

14) Kiss the Rain - Billie Myers (This is my DickKory jam)

15) What's In The Middle - The Bird and the Bee

16) Wings - Birdy

17) Dirty Little Animals - Bones UK (another Dick in Bludhaven song, great for action scenes)

18) The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows, You Won't Know - Brand New

19) Failure, Give Me A Sign, Breath, Had Enough, Sooner or Later, Diary of Jane - Breaking Benjamin

20) Circus - Britney Spears (yes its a cliché and what about it? Its a good song and its a very Dick Grayson song haflkhfal)

21) The Wings of Icarus - Celldweller (Dick in Bludhaven or Gotham, patrol/action song)

22) Mary Mary - Chumbawumba (Dick in Bludhaven, specifically Blockbuster arc stuff, dunno why its just my go-to for that era)

23) Ultraviolence - Cliff Lin (another action/patrol song)

24) Come Along - Cosmo Sheldrake (there's a long complicated story here lol but point is this song is very Robin: Year One for me and ties into a lot of my feels about Shrike, Vengeance Academy, Dick and Boone and the mindset Dick has about all those memories)

25) Cold, Colors, Already Gone, Invincible - Crossfade

26) Gotta Get Thru This - Daniel Bedingfield

27) Run Londinium - Daniel Pemberton (action song for various things I write that have Dick on the run or fighting/infiltrating the Court of Owls, etc)

28) Dynasties and Dystopia - Denzel Curry, Gizzle & Bren Joy (action stuff but Gotham based, this is a full-ensemble Batkids anthem for me lolol)

29) The Sound of Silence - Disturbed (another classic with a lot of covers but the Disturbed version is it for me and is very Dick in Bludhaven)

30) Unstoppable - E.S. Posthumus (action song, Gotham or Bludhaven....also I've mentioned before that I don't have fancasts for Dick but I do have an image of how I picture him moving, like his stylistic combination of fighting and dancing, and there's that one dancer Michael Dameski that really embodies that for me? Yeah he has a dance to this song specifically that's what kinda started that rabbit hole for me)

31) MisS Understood, Wait - Earshot

32) White Rabbit - Egypt Central (oof, this song is Dick yelling at Bruce on behalf of himself and his siblings)

33) Drunk (And I Don't Wanna Go Home) - Elle King & Miranda Lambert (this one is Dick and the OG Titans + Lilith because I'm me....like, their rabble rousing, 'let's have some mayhem' anthem)

34) Cold (But I'm Still Here), This Time Its Different - Evans Blue

35) Dance of the Manatee, Kyla Cries Cologne, A Wolf Descends on the Spanish Sahara, Walls of Jericho - Fair to Midland

36) HandClap - Fitz and the Tantrums

37) Shake It Out, Spectrum, Never Let Me Go, Seven Devils, Strangeness and Charm, No Light No Light - Florence and the Machine

38) Falls On Me - Fuel

39) We Are Young (featuring Janelle Monae) - Fun (Dick and the OG Titans)

40) Dirty - grandson (I love this song so much and its just so....Dick Grayson to me, but also Jason Todd too, I think it speaks to how I see them as more alike than a lot of people think and Dick doesn't go to the extremes Jason does but is a lot more willing to fudge the lines of morality than people think)

41) Familiar Taste of Poison, Freak Like Me - Halestorm

42) How You Like Me Now - The Heavy

43) Remember Me - Hoobastank (Dick and how society views him when he's 'just' Dick Grayson, circus orphan and when he's Dick Grayson, adopted son of Bruce Wayne)

44) Achilles Heel, Thanatos (End of Us) - J. Maya

45) Electropop, Go! (Jump In! Mix) - Jupiter Rising

46) Run - Leona Lewis

47) Shatter Me - Lindsey Stirling

48) Rooftops, Wake Up (Make A Move) - Lostprophets

49) Stop Me (featuring Daniel Merriweather) - Mark Ronson

50) No More Drama - Mary J. Blige

51) Make A Shadow, Running Up That Hill - Meg Myers

52) Welcome to the Black Parade, The Ghost of You, Sing - My Chemical Romance

53) Torn - Nathan Lanier (another action song, this one is my usual backdrop when I picture Dick with one of his siblings running across Gotham rooftops or something, playing rooftop tag even)

54) Republic - Ninja Tracks (Batfam doing stealth operations as a team, action stuff)

55) Trinity - Paper Tongues

56) Faster Kill Pussycat (featuring Brittany Murphy) - Paul Oakenfold (Bludhaven patrol song and Dick's complicated feelings re: how people perceive him and react to him)

57) Live In The Moment, Feel It Still - Portugal. The Man

58) Misfit Toys - Pusha T & Mako (Bludhaven song)

59) Goodbye - Ramsey

60) Selfish and Cold, After the Rain - Revelation Theory

61) Someone Else - Rezz & Grabbitz (Dick and his complicated self-image and identity issues, as well as how people see him versus how he thinks they see him or wants them to see him)

62) Dancing On My Own - Robyn

63) Night of the Dancing Flame, Ramalama (Bang Bang) - Róisín Murphy

64) Ladies and Gentlemen - Saliva

65) Hall of Fame (featuring will.I.am) - The Script

66) Broken (featuring Amy Lee) - Seether

67) Monsters, Stranger Inside, Second Chance - Shinedown

68) The Royal We, Panic Switch - Silversun Pickups

69) Through Glass, Bother - Stone Sour

70) Breakdown, Mourning - Tantric

71) Be Somebody - Thousand Foot Krutch

72) Image of the Invisible - Thrice

73) UK Jamaican - Tricky (I just love this song and it FEELS like Dick Grayson y'know? LOL, like this is just on his workout playlist)

74) Buried Myself Alive, Blue and Yellow - The Used

75) Guns For Hire, Run Boy Run - Woodkid

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guess fucking what? my inbox is so fucking full right now i'm unloading all of this shit in one post.

For the 11th gotham memes: gothamites react to bruce being jacked in a tiktok he made with kids, like super yoked, ripped as hell

fucking hilarious thanks. i think i did it in one meme post, but i genuinely don't remember which one

i dunno which of the batfam would do this but one time i was sleeping over at a friends house and ended up on the floor bc the bed was so very small and i just stayed there because the rug was soft

that's a drunk jason move i don't know what to tell you

tim and jason are "i listen to pop punk" solidarity. whenever jason highjacks the batmobile theyll go on long ass car rides blaring mcr and paramore and then never talk about it again

as they should!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tim: no jason it's my turn using the aux cord i gotta put on my jams jason: don't you dare put on weird shit tim: don't worry, you're gonna love this *plays fearless (taylor's version)

hear me out hear me out, red hood stans 🤝 nightwing stans t h i g h s

holy shit yes.

SNL au: Bruce breaks character when pretending to superman and says something like "I'm not superman! You've seen his gps!! It's from 2001!!!" @sabeanybabe

superman flies past the snl building the next day just to say 'actually it's from 2005, i'm not a heathen'

does your back hurt from carrying the batfam fandom

it hurts more from the exotic rock collection i keep in my backpack, but thanks for the concern.

I love your posts by why would you always leave the best parts in the tags?

as a treat for the people that check the tags ;) (and also because i'm committed to the short post aesthetic)

somehow your playlist was everything i never knew i needed. i mean it. this is my new favorite playlist.

and don't you dare get a new favourite playlist!

babe ur stoner tim playlist is exactly too perfect, earth is literally blessed by ur existence

babe thanks so much! i love my stoner tim playlist because it's just my usual playlist but people think it's an artistic choice that i put taylor swift and britney spears in there, when it's just what i unironically like listening to

JANDKSKDK BILLY RAY CYRUS ON THE STONER TIM PLAYLIST I LOVE IT IT

again it's not even an ironic choice, i know every single word and i genuinely like the song

The last chapter of Fundamentals of Casework has me crying at work. Thanks I love it @dudelookitsalesbian

oh babe, i'm sorry, but also, not sorry i love chapter 4 so much it's my lovechild with the 'mental illness' tag

soooo....stumbled on your tumblr by some stroke of fate??? read your DC fanfic first. which is PHENOMENAL btw. then found all the batmemes; the funniest thing EVER bc everyone forgets about regular old gothamites. kept scrolling and your blog pops up as recommended. clicked on the ao3 for shits and giggles and waddaya know?!?!? it's YOU!!! you're LEGEND!!!! ever seen that meme? it's a video of a cat that got into a baseball field and the two announcers get really invested in his escape attempt and start giving a play by play of the cat instead of the game. memeable moment: "GREAT stuff from the Cat!!!"

i seriously think about this ask every single day and it's so fucking funny to me that i've never seen the meme you're referencing, but i still find myself going 'GREAT stuff from the Cat!!!' whenever i see something funny. but wow i'm glad you liked this steaming pile of garbage

Fav dc character overall? And fav batfamily character?

don't ask me to pick between the loves of my life, but i can tell you i've cried about every single batfamily member and also wally west (my beloved)

What's your opinion on fans having a problem with batfam being "too big"? And some even claim that batfam is just "Bruce Alfred Dick Damian" and the rest of them are just "friends and allies" (source: reddit) Personally, I like batfam because of this reason but idk

stupid. a family can never be too big. i'm not that big a fan of like huge batfam stuff with everybody from every single universe, because as much as it's funny for bruce to have like 30 kids, it just feels a little too OOC for me.

This is the best tag I've seen involving the batfam, thanks for thinking of it

This is canon now @nctxrejects

lmao yeah i think at that point alfred has had to sit through like at least a dozen coming out talks and just has a pride flag collection in the attic that he pulls out whenever a kid comes out

idk why batfam hits different as compared to any other superhero family

bc it's found family and usually the other superhero families are almost all genetically related in one way or another

I don't know if you watch the umbrella academy but I saw your last post about batcest and saw the similarities. But the thing is (although I think it's weird) in TUA, they addressed it by saying "they were raised as weapons, not siblings" or something along those lines, which is simply not the case with batfam.

yeah i watched tua but i also thought it was ridiculous and they still treated each other as siblings so i didn't like the luthor/allison thing, and am glad they stopped doing that shit bc it fucking sucked.

Hot take: Batcest shippers are the same people who believe adopted siblings are not actual siblings

smoking hot take: batcest shippers are the people who watch 'my sister got stuck in the washing machine' porn

Duke was adopted by Bruce?

not technically no, but do i, tumblr user batarangsoundsdumb, look like i care?

True story but I had to change my freaking name because it used to be "Damien" and most people would go "OH LIKE DAMIAN WAYNE" like please I'm just tryna live

true story, but i don't actually think of damian when i hear the name damian, literally the first thing that pops up is damian darkh like bruh what?

apparently dc comics company supported comic stores by giving out new titles and stuff during the beginning of the pandemic to help them run and I just think that's wholesome

ah yeah that's so fucking cool, still don't like dc, the company, because this world is a capitalist hellhole and we're all owned by warner brothers or disney with no in between.

ayo looking at tumblr head canons and finding out bruce is actually a terrible father is a punch in the gut

lmao yes, in like 50% of comics bruce is a terrible father and it gives me whiplash

oooh I just saw the jason todd vs winter soldier post and the real question is: batman vs iron man

while iron man has like hundreds of cases of armor, batman could throw out an emp and have the guy dropping out of the sky in 2 seconds.

dickfast = fastdick = quickdick = quickie

magnum hot take

hey bata(?) just thought I'd let you know I have copied the obnoxious emoji and Billy Ray post for use on simping men going forth

thank you 😘🌷 (@spacebarsidecar)

why would you do that to your followers???? i get why i did it, but why would you???

what is scarecrow made the nightwing funko pop himself, like those diy-ers that paint over other ones

oh god no, horrible take, horrible take, that's a disgusting thought oh no

I see your HC that Bruce and Oliver fucked and raise you this: Dick and Roy ALSO fucked

yes they did and it was a horrible moment for jason to find out dick has fucked both of his best friends

"at this rate bruce adds like 1 child to his family every decade or so" Duke is introduced in 2013, Damian as Damian, not as an unnamed child, in 2006. And he is already 14 years old, Robins rarely remain Robins after 16 😬 It looks like a new Robin and Batkid will appear in a couple of years

i mean i can't wait? but somebody will probably die first tho, we're due for another major character death. my money's on either cass or duke this time.

BRO you're so right all of your Bruce's ex headcanons are amazing but they aren't ships, that's kinda wild. Like I don't want any peeks into how their relationship was I just want to see everyone make fun of them

lmao YES it's just i love bruce being a slut, like good for him.

I am in love with your posts your honour thank you

omg thanks are we like,, gonna kiss now?

The justice league needs to have a meeting to discuss how many of their members/partners have slept with bruce. Because through a combination of cannon & fannon (if DC wasn’t homophobic) we have AT LEAST: 1) clark 2) lois 3) oliver 4) dinah 5) john

Thats not counting villains or random civilians @dudelookitsalesbian

yes yes yes, they'll have a yearly meeting about how many of their collective exes could be out for revenge and batman's list just keeps getting longer.

tim was like "i'm drake now" and everyone was like ahh so your fursona is a dragon and tim was like pffffft no. ducks.

and what about it?

when steph's fighting livewire and she zaps her with lighting and nothing happens and then they both just. stand there awkwardly for a second and talk. yeah i couldn't stop laughing at that batgirl steph is the BEST

oh yeah that was fucking hilarious and i think it would be so cool and sexy of dc to give steph a little comic series,,, as a treat

Hi I absolutely adore all of yours "Bruce and Oliver very badly pretending they didn't fuck each other" memes

lmao i do too

I need you to know that “Bruce Wayne had frosted tips” is one of my favorite Bruce takes of all time it’s so galaxy brained. you’re right and you should say it

he also painted his hair blonde once when he was travelling and in conclusion, this is why he's being blackmailed by the gotham gazette.

you know my thing about gordon being branded as the only good cop in gotham is its a load of shit like arguably he's a good person and not working to screw people over or anything but the fact that he also works w. batman makes him a shit cop. like yea batman is better than the mob but its still illegal its still an abuse of power he just not making bank

babe, all cops are bad cops. (but yeah youre absolutely right, working with vigilantes makes you a shit cop, but also working against vigilantes just makes you an asshole cop yanno?)

ruh roh i think i’m about to add “so not yeehaw” every time i don’t like something

that's a very good vocabulary upgrade

somehow i feel like steph already knew. like babs obviously knew but i feel like bruce got high/drunk in front of steph and started telling his boarding school stories and steph was just like “oh you fucked up i’m never gonna forget this”

steph and bruce have weird uncle/rebellious niece dynamic and they just hang out sometimes and bruce will be like 'i once broke my arm when i tripped over a hedge when i was drunk so oliver drove me to the hospital on an electric scooter' and steph will just have to sit there with that knowledge in her head.

Hello I just wanted to tell you you are So right in all your steph opinions bc she is, in fact amazing and I think that's very sexy of you. Ps. Your Bruce/Oliver fic is hilarious

babe, thank you so much and yes steph is amazing and i love her and she deserves the world and she's the best member of the batfam hands down. also thanks

In Supersons we see a couple of kids that are implied to be Damian and Jon's children and the boy has laser eyes and can fly, so I asume he's not adopted. The girl, who calls Bruce grandpa, can also fly, btw. So it's canon (probably by accident) that Jon can have kids and he must have married one of Bruce's kids. (I'm hoping for Damian, mostly because any other of his children would be waaaaaaaaaaaaay too old.) @artemisa97

lmao that was probably an accident seeing as jon is a 17 year old superhero in the year 3000 (by the jonas brothers)

You know, I'm a die hard fan of your memes, but I gotta say one thing: if Gothamites actually took gas mask everywhere with them, then the Scarecrow would just be a weird dude in a weird costume, and not a villain oh so scary. DC really should just takes notes from you.

bold of you to assume there's no gothamite anti-maskers

How does it feel being the funniest person on this app?

horrible, next question.

I can't listen to Green Day or Billy Joel without thinking of your post about how Bruce got arrested at a Billy Joel concert @nightwings-kid

yeah that's your mistake, i on the other hand can't enjoy billy joel without thinking about the glee rendition of 'uptown girl'

I've FINALLY been watching the Batman animated series and I gotta say, after watching "the gray ghost" I am CONVINCED that Batman is a closeted super hero geek who was 100% freaking out the first time he met Superman and is just REALLY good at hiding it.

superman: so what do you do in your free time? batman, thinking about the superman fanfiction he's writing on the batcomputer: i have no free time

bruce and oliver be like boyfriends to co-workers 401k (do the justice leagues get 401ks??? not that bruce and ollie would need them, but-)

lmao yes just 400 thousand words of bruce realising 'oh dip oliver is such a fucking dumbass' (also i don't know what a 401 k is but i assume they don't?)

Gothamites would totally boo superman as he saves Gotham while batman is out. @meenje

he's like 'okay think about that next time you want to be saved from an alien octopus'

I just took long break from dc comics and I come back to see ric grayson ??

i think it's very cool and sexy of dc to see dick and just think 'you know what? let's just give him a traumatic brain injury' and then didn't develop his character in any real way

SPEAKING OF RIC GRAYSON, gothamites making confused memes out of ric grayson is much needed

'dick grayson is my taxi driver? can anyone explain what the fuck happened he looks like an italian plumber?'

i hate to say it but batfam are def "marvel characters" in that sense they are characters who are human but become superheroes unlike most dc characters who are gods trying to be human maybe this is why I like batfam

fair enough

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Omg I love your writing so much I’m just dying to how Bruce got the batkids in bloodletting? I know Damian and Cass were covered a little bit with death watch being the league of assassins in this case, but what about dick? Was the circus like… an intergalactic traveling circus? Maybe Tim’s parents instead of being socialites were some other station of power, generals or something who were killed in battle? Does Duke still have a metahuman bio dad? And Steph�� is there like a mando version of CPS?

Ah thank you for asking about this anon! I've had some side stories/shorts in mind for bloodletting, but haven't gotten around to them since the main plot is heating up a lot (and writing the chapters is a lot of work).

The bare outline I usually work with in my mind is:

Damian was part of Death Watch/Kyr'tsad under Talia. He's not Bruce's son, despite Talia's desire to have a child with him. Talia beat him horribly when he questioned her orders and Bruce found him on a raid or mission and adopted him. Damian never renounced Talia so she's still technically his buir, which is difficult since she tortured and somewhat disfigured him (semi-permanent limp).

Cass was raised as a child soldier by Death Watch/Kyr'tsad. Like many of the unfortunate children in this scenario, she was set across from Mand'alor Wayne on the battlefield. I'm not entirely sure what happened, but she defected and Bruce adopted her on the spot.

Dick was the child of spacers Bruce encountered while on a mission. His parents died in a ship crash and Bruce -- newly Mand'alor I think -- took Dick with him as he finished his mission, as they were in a remote area. Once he completed the mission, he took Dick back to Mandalore and gave him the option to find his family or return to another planet. Dick wanted to stay with Bruce, and they said the gai bal manda a few moments later. Probably in front of a tearful Alfred or something.

Jason grew up on Concord Dawn, like the character I sometimes model him after (Jango). Bruce encountered him on a mission like he did with Dick. I'm debating him having the same background as Jango (Bruce helps him avenge the deaths of his buire who were killed for sheltering the Mand'alor from Kyr'tsad) but haven't firmly decided yet. Regardless of his backstory, Bruce knew the instant he saw him -- in the Manda and in real life -- that he would be the next Mand'alor.

Tim, I have sometimes considered, was the child of Mandalorian socialites/etc who joined the New Mandalorians and eschewed the Haat'ade ways of the new Mand'alor. They were close with Bruce's father, the former Mand'alor, but didn't agree with the new empire. Tim jumped a ship as soon as he knew how, demanded to be let into the Haat'ade stronghold, and for an audience with the Mand'alor. I like to think Bruce adored him instantly but didn't adopt him for fear of stepping on his former buire's toes. Tim thought that was ridiculous, renounced them despite Bruce's protests, and basically strongarmed Bruce into saying the gai bal Manda. Otherwise he was going to get like, one of the guards to do it (they all loved this crazy mando kid from the passive New Mandalorians and were fighting each other for second chance at adoption)

Duke I like to think has non-baseline human ancestry that isn't quite apparent visually. I haven't decided what that is yet. He came to serve his Mand'alor as a young orphan when he heard about Bruce's rise to the throne. Dick immediately grabbed him, shook him in front of Bruce, and was like are you seriously employing kids? To which Bruce said [puppy eyes] and started training him as a guard, if only to protect himself. The adoption happened a few months later.

Steph, I'm not sure yet. But I like your idea, anon! Mandalorians feel very fiercely about the treatment of children. I imagine, however Bruce came into contact with her, it was intense. And she was secretly relieved and happy to be adopted and wanted that badly.

[lesbianmarrow]

idk if you know a lot about the batfam but if you had pick a batkid to be yoinked from a different timeline/universe to join legends who would it be

this question rules omg. first off crossing out dick and jason's names bc i don't know much about them and also i'm anti white men. tim i (begrudgingly) like but i feel like he would be a bit redundant so i'm scratching out his name as well. and i don't know much about duke so he's out too.

i love steph and while it would be fun to see her travel to different time periods i feel like she works best in a more grounded setting like gotham. protecting the timeline is too broad and nebulous a goal for her. plus legends already has enough blondes.

now cass....i think it would be so fun to see her body language reading abilities in a live action show. i know her skills are similar to sara's but i feel like they could be portrayed in new and distinctive ways. cass has a rich internal life which i feel legends could succeed at portraying very well provided the actress was good. both her isolated upbringing and her empathy and compassion for others would make it really fun to see her interacting with people from other time periods and helping them. also her outsider nature makes her a natural fit for legends i think, which is the number one place to learn how to be a part of a family.

damian would be really really funny to see as part of the legends however i find it impossible to picture him as an adult and i don't think they would let a 14 year old join their team. and idk if she counts as a batkid but harper row might be another interesting choice....i dont actually know much about her but shes bisexual and she seems cool so i bet she would fit right in. also isnt she like a mechanic or something? she could be the designated waverider tinkerer.

sooooo my dream choice is cass but realistically i would hope for harper just because it would hurt less to see harper executed badly on the show as opposed to cass also we just need to populate the waverider with as many lgbtq people as possible

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Omg i could ask So Many things for the director’s cut meme but I will use some self restraint and not spam your inbox 😂 I’d love to hear the inside scoop on coming up with the interactions between the arrow fam and Jason in Some Cupid Kills with Arrows?

Haha I don't know if I have, like, a Process or anything like that I can share, but I guess here's how I think about those dynamics?

Ollie and Jason's interactions are always pretty easy for me, because even though they're very different people in many ways, they come from the same place when interacting with one another: they both think the other failed Roy and get super protective of him, which is exacerbated by guilt because they both secretly also feel like they themselves have failed Roy. So their interactions always devolve into essentially a shouting match over who loves Roy more, and because I also love Roy very much, I find that easy to write. 😂

Dinah is much more chill with Jason because she tolerates Bat nonsense better and because in the particular context of the fic, Jason hasn't hurt Roy, nor is he going to. (She's also better at reading how much pain Jason is in than Ollie, who is too self-involved to be perceptive.) If she thought Jason was going to hurt Roy, she would OBLITERATE him. But until that becomes necessary, they're good.

Emiko was raised by an assassin who stole her at birth from her mother who is also an assassin, plus she knows Damian, so she's simply not very fazed by Jason. Mia doesn't do much in this story but she's also pretty chill about Jason despite the fact that he canonically kidnapped her during his villain days, complete with a "we're not so different, you and I" monologue. But they aren't so different, which is why I don't tend to see her as holding a grudge - she gets him. He'll feel guilty for a while, she'll quietly threaten him, he'll feel much better, they'll move on.

Cissie, meanwhile, has much more of an outsider perspective, being both new to the Arrowfamily and not immersed in Bat drama via the grapevine. I wanted her perspective to be very much that of someone who knows and loves Roy but has never met Jason. (That perspective is "Roy is extremely in love with Jason.") So her reaction to him is much more "Oh this is my brother's widower" and not "This is that crazy Batkid who came back from the dead and kills people (and is also my brother's widower)."

Jason, meanwhile, recognizes that all of the Arrow women would absolutely murder if they had to, and he respects that, while simultaneously being petulantly jealous of a gaggle of teenage girls because they spent time with Roy more recently than he did. He's an adult!

I also wanted to make sure Connor got a spotlight scene because in crowd scenes he tends to fade into the background, being the only non-shouty member of the family. He and Jason are the same age and actually have quite a lot in common - they're both sensitive bookworms and romantics at heart. It's just that when Jason has a feeling, he blows things up until everyone knows about it, and when Connor has a feeling, he keeps it right here *points to chest* until he dies. But there's an alternate timeline where they grew up together as second generation Titans, and the wistfulness of their conversation is my nod to that.

Jason did not bring dog treats, therefore George has no opinion on him.

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H! Hope you're doing well!

I just finished reading the second chapter of the exchange universe? (Is that how you call it XD) I apologize if I missed the name I'm just 😭😭😭 I was smiling through the chapter at how Bruce (of 19th Dick) is so warm compared to Bruce, and then we reached the end and idk if I should be mad at Bruce because I totally see his point he almost (did) lose Dick to the crime syndicate, and I feel so bad for Dick but at the same time I can see why he should take the blame because that's not his actual Father 😭😭😭

And now I want an entire Fic dedicated to this wonderful universe you created because I'm so curious about how dick (19th) grew up with a warmer Bruce and if he'll ever get fired or will he ever meet the rest of the batkids, will he meet Jason with Bruce, Orr??? There are so many possibilities and I have so many questions and I need answers 😭😭😭

So will you ever finish sitting up this Au, or will you ever share your general idea about this Au 🥺

And thank you so much for writing a second chapter it was amazing! (And sorry I talked a lot I'm just so excited 😅)

Omg yeaaah 19!Bruce is the Ultimate Dad. He’s the kinda dude who would always choose Dick over Gotham if given the choice because Dick is literally his baby. 

And I’m glad that you kinda agree with both 27!Bruce and 19!Dick’s sides during that argument! Because they’re both technically right and shouldn’t trust each other. 27!Bruce can’t risk 19!Dick hurting his family or his universe, and simultaneously, 19!Dick needs to know for sure that 27!Bruce is actually going to follow through and take him back to his own universe. 

Lolol tbh, the more I write 19!Dick, the more I’m like damn I really like his family alskjdla. And it’s nice to have him refer to Bruce as “dad” and to refer to both Bruce and Alfred as his parents. They’re such a cute, close family. 

I plan on writing a reunion chapter for this dimension switch fic. Not sure I’ll continue with just 19!Dick’s family on its own. I can’t imagine too many people wanting to read that since 19!Dick’s universe is def different from the canon universe. 

I can tell you that 19!Dick’s vigilante name “Starling” actually came from Talia. It’s what she called him back when he was a kid. She meant it as a mixture of like “star” and “darling” but Dick was just like There Is A Bird Called Starling And That Is Me Now. Talia dated Bruce for a long time during Dick’s youth, but Bruce hasn’t spoken to her since Dick was about 13-years-old. I wonder why 😏*cough* Damian *cough*

But yeah, lad, thanks so much for reading! I’m glad you liked the second chapter! And no worries about rambling. The more people express their thoughts/feelings about somethings I write, the more I’m just like well okay I guess I have to marry you now lmao. 

[lady-dinah]

Jason Todd’s Redemption Arc, cuz DC sucks shit and can’t write a proper Jason Todd story so I guess I’ll have to do it

So after watching John Wick again, binging Chicago Med, and ranting about the shit storm L*bdell has done to Jason Todd. I have decided that is time to give Jason to justice that he deserves, since fucking DC just wants to keep him as an angsty boy who just cries over being the black sheep of the family and then just shoots ppl (and not even really shooting, more like arguing with Bruce about it)

Anyways welcome to my version of Jason Todd’s “redemption arc”. Cuz if DC ain't gonna treat him right, then bitch i will (btw this will be like a mix of headcanon/rants so bare with me)

PART 1: FIGHT STYLE 

First of all, lets clear some shit up. Jason Peter Todd is BAMF. Meaning he does not fight like some random ass gangster from crime alley, Where he just walks into a building, guns blazing and then that's that. Also most of Jason’s gun have silencers on them (like fite me on this). 

Jason was raised by THE DETECTIVE and the LEAGUE OF ASSASSINS!!! MEANING HE’S STEALTHY AND TACTILE AFFFFF!! He’ll take out his enemies before they know what him ‘em. I like to imagine his fighting style is similar to that of John Wicks, in the sense that it’s more stealth and being strategic. Yeah Jason is more bulky, but that doesn’t stop batman, so why tf would it stop Jason?? Like Batman, Jason is someone who plans his attacks, and makes sure he gets who he wants when he wants. He’s not that impulsive freak where DC makes him to be, where he just shoots everyone, announces his presence and then gets his ass beat by batman after

No, Jason would get into the building, eliminate all the guards and the crime bosses or whatever. And Bruce would find out about this when he's sippin’ his coffee, reading the Sunday morning paper, while the front page is about some rival gang that have gone missing, and all human trafficked victims were found safe at the Gotham Hospital.

PART 2: REPUTATION 

Second, Jason does a lot of undercover work. He runs and knowns the underground of Crime Alley. Everyone thinks he’s trying to monopolize all of the crime businesses, when in reality, he’s going to get rid of it. My boi Jason has an A LEVEL reputation okay. Again, frieken John Wick level reputation, like “I saw him kill a man with a pencil” kind of reputation. He also has his own contacts and networks. He’s knowns all the ins and outs of the black market, more so first hand than batman or the other batkids.

PART 3: CIVILIAN IDENTITY 

Third, Jason deserves a civilian identity. Literally everyone has or had one, but Jason. Dick got to be an officer, Tim is literally a frieken CEO, even Damian at least got some school identity out here. (Cass is doing ballet, Steph also went to school, Barbara was a librarian and I don’t know wtf she’s going in rebirth but she still got a civilian identity, Duke even has friends outside his hero persona) 

So in this redemption arc, Jason is going to be an ER doctor. My boi gonna be slayin bad guys at nights, and then saving lives in the morning. But think about it,  Medic!Jason helping lower class Gotham patients even when there aren’t insured. He volunteers his time to go to crime alley and run free diagnosis's  and provides free medication. Not to mention Jason having to attend charity functions for the hospital, seeing the batfam there, and pretending he’s not associated with them, even though Bruce Wayne keeps coming up to talk him, or fix his tie, or ruffle his hair (Batdad is just happy that one of kids followed in Thomas’s footsteps). And all of Jason’s co-workers are just weirded about by this.

OMG JASON HAVING CIVILIAN FRIENDS!! LIKE WOW!! Women and men having crushes on him. An online forum even said that Jason is known to be the 2nd best doctor (Leslie is #1 obvi) and the #1 hottest.

PART 4: RELATIONSHIPS 

Now the final piece of my Jason redemption arc is his relationship with the batfam. So I hate how in the new52 DC tried to shove Jason down our throats as being the edgy cool older bro, and now in rebirth he's the typical black sheep and all he wants to do it be accepted by his family.

Yeah, well, fuck that.

In this, Jason relationship with his family is complicated as it should be. Does he actively go out and try to hurt them? No. Does he ask for their help? Maybe once in a while. Will he help them if they need it? Probably, they are family after all, but as soon as the job as done he’s out.

The thing with redemption arc’s is that its a two way relationship. Jason can’t just be hanging out with the family all the time while they treat him like trash or Bruce just constantly criticizes him. In this arc, it’s more about the family seeking out Jason. Since Jason is doing better for himself, i think his family would see that and begin the first steps to reach out to him. Then in return Jason begins his journey to join them again. Don’t get me wrong, no one is perfect in the batfam. Jason has literally attacked all the batkids so it would make sense for them to be wary of him. But at the same time the batfam have also betrayed Jason many times, so Jason would probably be fed up with how he’s been treated and would want to MOVE ON!!!

PART 5: MORALITY 

I guess one last thing to note is his moral code. I mean it’s no surprise that Jason is basically in the grey zone when it comes to that. The thing is, although I understand why Jason would slowly ease of killing (cuz he still wants to respect his families wishes, even though he doesn’t agree with them), I think he wouldn’t have that ‘martyr’ mentality like the rest of the bat family has. For instance, if there was a building on fire and they were civilians and criminals inside. The batfamily would most likely save as many lives as possible, no matter who it is, while Jason would just save the civilians. Even though he could potentially save the criminals, he wouldn't want too. Similarly he’s not gonna shoot every thug or gang member he sees, most likely knock em out, hurt them enough that they wouldn’t be in his way. But with the crime bosses, Jason may not kill, but he could paralyze, could disable them, send them into a coma. Making it seem that maybe the ‘no killing rule’, isn't so merciful, which is all the more scary.

END: OR IS IT?

In the end I’m probably gonna write more stories or headcanons with this AU, cuz Jason Todd deserves to be written well. Like at this point I take fanfiction into headcanon, cuz fanfic writers actually understand Jason more than DC does. Let me know what you all think.