#did-research.org

[anomalymon]

When you start to try to fact check information about DID it is absolutely insane how much of it seems to be from DID Research.

Like from what we have caught alone, did-research.org seems to be the earliest source for:

DID only appearing before the ages of six to nine

OSDD-1 being divided into OSDD-1a and OSDD-1b

The average number of alters is 12 for males and 15 for females

Especially the first one makes me feel like I'm loosing my goddamn mind because it's constantly cited as a "gotcha" in syscourse, but there is no earlier source for that we can find besides did-research.org.

[blackwaxidol]

i've been in and out of my mind since the 8th. it feels too easy to "disappear" and have Ares take my place, and i cannot even look into how to compose myself because i am disallowed by him.

[lastwave]

Harry Du Bois, the skills + DID/OSDD coding

a compilation of most of my thoughts on harry as a system (note: i am system im not just like. pulling stuff out my ass)

1. Structural Dissociation Theory crash course

so for this point i'm going to give you a crash course structural dissociation theory (do not use me as a source for ur knowledge on it this is very like. base level and just to establish context)

structural dissociation states that we all start as multiple different facets, and that as we grow up, these facets all fuse into a cohesive personality. however, in DID/OSDD, ongoing trauma proves it safer to NOT fuse these facets and instead develop dissociative and amnestic barriers between them to varying degrees. these facets cope by developing into individual personalities, and if traumatic events persist, the brain may split more personalities to try and cope with this. this gives us two bits of information that i'm going to use throughout this

1. there is no "original", just alters that host for long periods of time and/or identify with the body the most

2. amnestic & dissociative barriers are fluid. in times of rest, these barriers may start to come down between some alters, but not necessarily all.

**NOTE: these are not hard and fast rules and vary from system to system. it's also vastly different if you have Polyfrag DID or Complex DID. since I don't hc Harry as polyfrag or complex tho, i'm not gonna get into that

2. Harry (the system)

so it's pretty easy to establish that harry has a good handful of childhood trauma. being born in a military hospital + town and growing up there means he probably saw and/or heard a lot of death and sickness. we also know his father left based on the logic passive in the measurehead conversation

we also know from the reaction speed passive when you find out your name that harry was born in a time all these were concerns. most likely, hunger, considering how through the game hunger + eating is an undertone w/ harry

we also have the klaasje half-light passive implying that harry's been raped (might not have occurred during childhood, but still a contributing factor to trauma)

my point being bro has enough childhood trauma and then some to create a system.

we also see a LOT of amnestic barriers between harry and the rest of the skills. besides the obvious not remembering anything, we see the skills remembering things that harry doesn't.

for example, EChem remembers that harry took speed some point recently, while harry himself doesn't

we also see that the skills have distinct personalities and opinions separate from each other. shit we've got a communist (rhetoric) and a fascist (endurance) living in the same fucking body. half light is immediately suspicious of everyone and everything while empathy tries to understand everyone even to their own detriment. and volition and echem need a whole post of their own. thats some pretty strong dissociative barriers

3. Harry (the alter)

to be quite honest with you i think harry as we, the audience, know him is a brand new split, an introject* of an old host that has either fused with another alter or gone dormant. he's trying to fill a different harry du bois's shoes- someone he is fundamentally similar to, but is, at his core, not

*Definition from did-research.org: Introjects are alters that are based off of an outside person or figure. Introjects may or may not see themselves as the individual that they represent.

knowing nothing about yourself, even what you look like, is a common feeling for new splits (in our experience). with the high amnestic barriers separating harry from the rest of the system, it makes sense that the first time he is conscious he is totally lost about his own identity, where he lives, or what his occupation even is.

losing facts about basic reality is probably a dissociative response. things the brain knows (see encyclopedia filling in gaps once given a prompt about something like Fillipe the Conquerer) but doesn't want the new host to know for fear of not being able to function.

4. Certain Alters with Functions

some of the skills fall into alter "archetypes" (not all alters will, even in like. real life systems) and im just gonna list them out here:

ones with subtextual backing:

Volition: Caretaker + Apparent Normal Part

Half-Light: trauma holder

Electro-Chemistry: symptom + trauma holder

Authority: protector

Logic: apparent normal part

ones that are just my headcanons:

Interfacing: little

Endurance: ex-persecutor

Inland Empire: ex-caretaker

here ends my post of articulate thoughts, if u have any like. follow up questions feel free to shoot me an ask. might take me a minute tho

[cripplecharacters]

Complex Dissociative Disorders Terminology: A Basic Primer

[Large text: DID Terminology: A Basic Primer]

Here are some common terms you may see when researching complex dissociative disorders! 

Basic Terms

[Large Text: Basic Terms]

Dissociation - An internal feeling of disconnect between one's body, history, thoughts, emotions, memories, acts, and/or environment. Not everyone who experiences dissociation has a dissociative disorder. Dissociation is a common coping mechanism in times of stress. 

Alter - A dissociated part of a personality that failed to integrate into the self due to trauma. These parts may have their own age, gender, needs, wants, sexuality, species, memories, actions, urges, opinions, skills, abilities, etc. 

Fragment - An alter who is not fully “fleshed out” or differentiated. They may have a single function, emotion, or memory. 

System - The entire collection of alters in one body 

Front - The alter who is “in front” or “fronting” is aware of the outside world, and controlling the body. 

Switch - “to switch” is to change what alter is fronting (controlling the body). This can be slow or fast, planned or unplanned, accidental or intentionality. 

Co-consciousness (co-con) - When two or more alters are aware of the outside world they are co-conscious. 

Passive Influence - When an alter who is not currently fronting affects the fronting alter. This can be in the form of memories, thoughts, emotions, desires, preferences, actions, etc. 

Splitting - To split is to create a new alter 

Amnesia - partial or complete loss of memory (not exclusive to CDD) 

Disorders 

[Large text: Disorders]

Complex Dissociative Disorder (CDD) - An umbrella term for all dissociative disorders that cause systems. This list includes Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), Other Specified Dissociative Disorder Type 1 (OSDD-1), Unspecified Dissociative Disorder (UDD), and Partial Dissociative Identity Disorder (P-DID).

Dissociative Disorder - To quote https://did-research.org/ “a disorder characterized by a separation of consciousness from emotion, sensation, memory, personal history, sense of self, or sense of reality.”  

Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) - DID is characterised by two or more dissociative self-states "Alters" that are linked to some degree of amnesia and are capable of assuming executive control. 

Other Specified Dissociative Disorder Type 1 (OSDD-1) - OSDD-1 is a disorder that is very similar to DID but lacks fully differentiated selves (type 1a) or amnesia (type 1b). OSDD in general is a category of dissociative disorders that while not fitting the criteria for any other dissociative disorder, can still be specified. 

Unspecified Dissociative Disorder (UDD) - A category of disorders that can not be labeled, or are unable to be fully understood. This diagnosis is most often applied in crises or emergencies.

Partial Dissociative Identity Disorder (P-DID) - As outlined by the International Classification of Diseases is a condition similar to DID where “One personality state is dominant and normally functions in daily life, but is intruded upon by one or more non-dominant personality states (dissociative intrusions).” Essentially one alter is always in front, but they regularly experience passive influence or co-consciousness. 

Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) - This is a former term for DID. The name was changed because DID is not a personality disorder, it’s a dissociative disorder. Many people today find this term insensitive, outdated, and offensive, although some systems may choose to self-identify with the term. 

The Theory of Structural Dissociation (TOSD)

[Large Text: The Theory of Structural Dissociation (TOSD)] 

This is the current understanding of how dissociative disorders as well as other disorders caused by trauma are formed and function. To quote https://did-research.org/ “this theory centers around an inability to integrate traumatic memories and materials into one’s primary personality, sense of self, and self history that results in an overall inability to integrate parts.” 

To learn more about anything referenced above I would recommend checking out https://did-research.org/

Thanks, Mod Patch

[sysmedsaresexist]

Do you have any idea where the myth of "None, OR, Not a lot of amnesia = OSDD" and "blackout amnesia = DID" came from? I heard it since 2016, and posts for a search of "osdd1b amnesia" bring up the same so I guess the idea recently circulates as well. In 2016, me and my friend thought we had OSDD instead of DID because we didn't always have amnesia. I was under the impression OSDD1B has No Amnesia except for emotional, correct me if I'm wrong? (yada yada insert disclaimers about 1B here lol)

Did-research.org is typically the source of these kinds of myths. Did-research is run by another tumblr blogger with a similar educational background to myself.

The site is quite old and the wording is very clunky and unclear in a lot of places. This is also where the myth about osdd 1a alters comes from (if you have full alters, it's 1b, even if they're you at different ages).

So, to clarify for others, osdd 1b (Obligatory "doesn't actually exist") has EMOTIONAL AMNESIA ONLY.

Emotional amnesia is a fancy way to say "dissociation." A disconnect between memory and emotion.

DID can have SO MANY different types of amnesia.

Amnesia only for childhood trauma with full system communication? DID.

Amnesia between some alters and not others? DID.

Blackout amnesia? DID.

Gray out? Probably DID, depending on who's defining it.

[sophieinwonderland]

You know what, I'm sick of u endos, u want proof take a read.

did-research.org

I've seen that site before. Heck, I've cited it years ago in some discussions on DID when I was too lazy to get real academic sources and was okay settling for a glorified blog ran by a random psych student that hasn't been reviewed or endorsed by professionals.

The thing is, it doesn't address non-DID plurality at all.

Alright, you're new to this game, right? You've probably been on TikTok for a while or isolated in your remote anti-endo communities where people will accept a random psych student's webpage as a valid source while telling you that the science is on your side and keeping you blissfully ignorant of reality.

So let me just say... welcome to Tumblr.

If you want to talk about sources and proof here, you've gotta do better.

So I'll raise your random student blog (that doesn't even support your point) with the Plurality chapter of Transgender Mental Health.

This book is written by Dr. Eric Yarbrough, a Distinguished Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association, which is the highest honor the APA gives. The book itself was also both reviewed and published by The American Psychiatric Association's publishing division.

[antimisinfo]

This is more of a question rather than something regarding misinfo, but is there a specific term for what the, like, ORIGINAL is called? We use the term "core" since that's what we found once, but we've also heard people refer to them as the "host" or the "body" and we wanted to know if there was a correct term or if "core" is something we shouldn't use since we've never heard anyone else use the term "core", although we don't meet new people, especially systems, very often which may be apart of it.

So sorry if this is worded wrong or weirdly!!!!

techincally the term for the "original" is core, but the term core is very debated,, it has been used by people but whether a "core" exists or not is argued over " There is currently a debate over the existence of cores because it does not easily fit with the theory of structural dissociation. Not all systems have a part that could be identified as a core. "

the idea of a core doesn't completely fit with the theory of how DID forms, since if we go off the theory of structural dissociation there would be no "original" or "first" alter (as before alters are formed it'd just be fragments / parts of an identity, not a integrated identity,, if that makes sense?)

it kind of depends how you refer to it / how you use the term core. i would say that overall, the term is disliked since it goes against the theory of structural dissociation,, though did-research.org says that a core could be fit into it as; "one has to examine the theory as it exists on a spectrum to conceptualize how an early failure of integration could still allow one part to integrate before others." which i guess could make sense in a way? it depends.

really its more of a personal thing i think,, most systems don't like the term but if you like it i can't stop you from using it. there's not much else to say. ((also calling them the original is also widely disliked too, but its pretty much the same thing))

apologies if this doesn't really answer your question, i'm unsure what to say

[ellipse-society]

Ok so I did because I was curious to see what was actually there.

So first now of course we have the AI overview.

Firstly thought to form and typically strong word choice there very persuasive/sar. Secondly what do they actually link in the overview? Two blogs and WedMD. So I guess now what does WebMD say because I hope we aren't using blogs as our sources here.

Again with the weak word choices. Using likely then stating 99% instead of 100. What about that last 1%?

So now let's scroll down the page and see what we find.

Firstly we have did-research.org which has a disclaimer page stating not all information on the page is necessarily accurate and there is already some well known things on that website that are questionable in their accuracy when you look at the science on the topic. Also basically just one person's blog so not a reliable resource.

Next in the list one of the blogs linked in the AI overview. They seemed to actually be citing some good sources though...

...still that use of weak language.

Next we have "how do new alters form" asked on r/DID and I decided to check to see if anyone added a source to their answer to give it the benefit of the doubt. They didn't and I shouldn't have to explain why this is a bad source.

After that we have the othe blog from the AI overview the fact it cites did-research.org as a source immediately knocking it even further down in credibility and all of their other sources use that same weak language.

Then we have quora with "how are new alters in DID systems created? Can it happen randomly?" Again I checked for any sources and found none.

And finally after going through all those sources we finally get to a credible one which does actually support their argument until you read what it is about. "Formation and Functions of Alter Personalities in Dissociative Identity Disorder" It isn't talking about every case where alters are present just the cases where the individual has DID and nowhere does it say you need DID to have alters. It also starts to use the same weak language when it actually gets to the actual descriptions of alter formation.

I'm just wondering how they think the first thing that pops up is supporting their point when it takes me to the seventh to find anything. Also most endogenics aren't claiming to have DID and most don't. Most also don't use the word alters. So I really don't see why they think they have proved anything. If your sources aren't talking about endogenic plurality they are not evidence for or against it.

[theinfernalcollective]

do you have a source for the claim that splits only happen during times of high stress? my understanding is that that is a very common misconception and im wondering why you think it specifically

What is high stress for one person may not be as stressful for another. Your brain cannot and will not split a part for nothing. - August

additional alters are usually the result of extreme stress. The mind does not like to be fractured even when an individual already has DID or OSDD-1. Many individuals cannot split unless a split is strictly necessary for their protection, functioning, or ability to remain hidden as a system. systems may be so destabilized that even trauma processing leads to the creation of new parts. 

This appears to accurately describe how DID is first created and how new alters are formed in response to new trauma, high levels of stress, or other overwhelming experiences. Alters that form this way start from scratch and do not have the benefit of beginning with another alter's traits as a foundation. 

Coming from did-research.org

[hazedxhealing]

Not-so-friendly reminder that you cannot be a system without trauma.

Some more proof; done by me, a person living with DID.

This is not syscourse, this is fact.

According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Illness (DSM-5), a history of childhood abuse and neglect is prevalent in 90% of cases of dissociative identity disorder (DID). The remaining cases involve medical trauma, terrorism, and childhood prostitution. Ninety percent is overwhelming. Other research claims that rates of abuse and neglect in DID are actually much higher.

DID develops in response to severe, recurring trauma in childhood. Children are not fully equipped to cope with continued, severe instances of abuse, so they may develop dissociation as a survival skill, which can then develop into DID. It makes sense, then, that the rate of childhood abuse and neglect in people with DID is so high.

https://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/dissociativeliving/2016/04/the-undeniable-connection-between-did-and-child-abuse

The authors interviewed 102 individuals with clinical diagnoses of multiple personality disorder at four centres using the Dissociative Disorders Interview Schedule. The patients reported high rates of childhood trauma: 90.2% had been sexually abused, 82.4% physically abused, and 95.1% subjected to one or both forms of child abuse. Over 50% of subjects reported initial physical and sexual abuse before age five. The average duration of both types of abuse was ten years, and numerous different perpetrators were identified. Subjects were equally likely to be physically abused by their mothers or fathers. Sexual abusers were more often male than female, but a substantial amount of sexual abuse was perpetrated by mothers, female relatives, and other females. Multiple personality disorder appears to be a response to chronic trauma originating during a vulnerable period in childhood.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2044042/

Causes

The main cause of DID is believed to be severe and prolonged trauma experienced during childhood, including emotional, physical or sexual abuse.

The development of dissociative identity disorder is understood to be a result of several factors:

Recurrent episodes of severe physical, emotional or sexual abuse in childhood.

Absence of safe and nurturing resources to overwhelming abuse or trauma.

Ability to dissociate easily.

Development of a coping style that helped during distress and the use of splitting as a survival skill.

While abuse is frequently present, it cannot be assumed that family members were involved in the abuse.

Dissociative identity disorder (DID) is the result of repeated or long-term childhood trauma, most frequently child abuse or neglect, that is often combined with disorganized attachment or other attachment disturbances. DID cannot form after ages 6-9 because individuals older than these ages have an integrated self identity and history. Trauma later in life can lead to posttraumatic stress disorder or complex posttraumatic stress disorder, other dissociative disorders including other specified dissociative disorder, somatic symptom disorders, or possibly borderline personality disorder, but DID requires an unintegrated mind to form.

https://did-research.org/origin/

Other helpful links!!

DSM-5 on DID and

A explanation of each DD

NAMIs fact sheet on DID

Please see this account for OP

A PDF research paper done on the link between DID and childhood abuse

My own multi-part research thread

A post about biomarkers in the brains of pw/OSDDID

[system-of-a-feather]

Referencing this post that I replied to; other than my gripes about the ToSD being very colonialist in it's assumptions, the OTHER large issue I have with how ToSD is talked about in online spaces is that everyone applies a circular reasoning / argument as to how ToSD is absolute and correct.

For simplicity of discussing it without the pre-occuring discussion:

[...] before you state that its impossible for people to experience themselves as plural without trauma and that said person DEFINITELY has trauma they don't know about, please provide a genuine literature review or MULTIPLE sources (because one source is not enough to make a claim) with empirical research that has been replicated across studies that are NOT just on white / western cultures that proves that all people integrate into one state of self without trauma. I'm not asking for research that proves that "trauma causes DID" because that is unethical and there is no reason to expect that literature to exist, I'm asking for the null hypothesis that people will always - across all cultures and backgrounds - fuse into one person. The fundamental statement that underlies the ToSD is a huge assumption in its own that is largely unfounded in literature. Even the famous did-research.org (which is not a strong source, its written by a person who is a PhD candidate, its a nice source for convenience but its secondary) acknowledges that it is based on the ASSUMPTION that people fuse. Unless there is proof that people across all cultures always fuse to one identity state, using the ToSD to say it "proves" that all people fuse is a circular argument / circular reasoning as "The ToSD operates on the assumption that all individuals fuse into one identity" then "The ToSD states that trauma causes this fusion into one identity to be disrupted thus causing DID" then "therefore ToSD proves that people will fuse into one unless they have DID, thus using itself as proof for the premise". The ToSD can't both be based on the assumption that all individuals fuse unless disrupted by trauma AND also be the proof that all individuals fuse unless disrupted by trauma.

It's not all that much better of a circular argument than the assumption that god exists, that the bible is right because god exists, and the bible says god exists, so god is proven to exist.

If you change "god" with "fuse into one person unless disrupted by trauma" and bible with "ToSD" its the exact same arguement.

So unless there is literature out there that accounts for intersectionality and cultural awareness and is actually replicated to the standard that it should to be considered anything more than a "finding" in science; the argument is circular and not much better than the classic biblical circular argument.

You can't both have something based on an unproven assumption AND have that prove the unproven assumption.

[cccat-in-a-meat-sack]

Masterlist of information and resources for dissociative disorders, including dissociative amnesia, depersonalization-derealization disorder, and dissociative identity disorder (+ subtypes)

**THESE RESOURCES AND INFORMATION ARE NOT TO BE USED TO SELF-DX YOURSELF. THESE ARE MEANT TO BE A STARTING POINT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DISORDERS. IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING, DO MORE RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN. AND IF YOU CAN, SEE AND TALK TO A PROFESSIONAL. FURTHERMORE, I CAN BE WRONG! THESE ARTICLES CAN BE WRONG! YOU CAN SEND US ARTICLES/PAPERS ON ANYTHING HERE TO CORRECT US, AS LONG AS IT IS NOT A CARRD OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. THIS IS A STARTING POINT, A LAUNCHPAD IF YOU WILL, NOT THE FINISH LINE. **

I would also like to remind you that all systems are different. Systemhood is a spectrum, and you will see this in multiple articles on this masterlist.

Many of these articles come from did-research.org. If anyone has any other articles or papers for any of the following topics, please either dm me or send an ask. Do not reblog/comment with the article/paper.

**Some links may contain mentions of cult abuse and/or ritual abuse. This will be mostly in the polyfragmented area of this masterlist.

An overview of dissociative disorders

Resources for dissociative disorders

Expert questions and answers (the switching one in this is not very accurate, I touched on it more in the DID portion of this masterlist)

What causes dissociation (focuses more on DID but still important. please note that it's very long and wordy.)

6 DID myths (another long and wordy one. touches on the following: the belief that DID is a “fad”, the belief that DID is primarily diagnosed in North America by DID experts who overdiagnose the disorder, the belief that DID is rare, the belief that DID is an iatrogenic disorder rather than a trauma-based disorder, the belief that DID is the same entity as borderline personality disorder, and the belief that DID treatment is harmful to patients. Iatrogenic, in this instance, means "induced in a patient by the treatment or comments of a physician" according to the National Institutes of Health)

7 DID myths (easier to read, and covers different topics. Confirms there is not a limit to how many alters a system can have.)

Even more DID myths (NOTE. This article will say that different alters can have their own mental health issues. Please refer to "Can alters have different disorders than the body?" in the Dissociative Identity Disorder section of this post.)

You can find the start of the DSM-5 information on dissociative disorders here, page 336

A quick overview of Dissociative Disorders (this one has OSDD and subtypes)

DISSOCIATIVE AMNESIA:

What it is + cases/examples

More information, explanations of treatment, and other important Q&A's

Other information (basically a summary of the above two, but might be a little easier to read)

Amnesia in Dissociative Amnesia

More types of Amnesia in Dissociative Amnesia

DEPERSONALIZATION-DEREALIZATION DISORDER:

Causes, Symptoms, and more

Living with the disorder, treatment, diagnosis, and more (the overview/symptoms and causes isn't entirely accurate, but still provides a baseline)

A more compact version of the above two (but less in-depth)

An easier to read version of the above two (least in depth but covers the basics)

The most in depth (but also hardest to read and contains a lot of long words and sentences without a lot of breaks. tiny font too)

DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER:

Overview of DID

What causes DID? (scroll down to "Risk Factors")

What causes DID? (part 2)

The Theory of Structural Dissociation (the very long and complicated version)

The Theory of Structural Dissociation

Problems with the Theory of Structural Dissociation

What are alters?

Different types of alters (This one goes into detail not only about what alters are, but different types of them and how they help the body/mind. There is some misinformation sprinkled within, so don't take anything as a total fact until you do further research.)

Different types of alters (this one is easier to read and created by a system who is/was in therapy. I am uncertain if the system is diagnosed, but the basic alters and basic functions match up with many diagnosed DID systems.)

Notes on non-human alters (and why you can have entire systems of just non-human alters)

Fictives (this was literally the only article i could find. please send me more.)

A paper that talks about DID and fictives (this one was sent to me and I was unable to read it due to personal reasons)

Is there a limit to how many alters a system can have? (A woman who was diagnosed with DID was reported to have 2,500 alters)

Is there a limit to how many alters a system can have? (A center in Utah who specializes in DID confirms as many as 4,500 alters have been reported)

Is there a limit to how many alters a system can have? (Researchers are still unsure, but up to 4,500 have been reported. Scroll down to "multiple personalities")

Fragments (the most basic definition)

Fragments (scroll down to F)

Fragments

OSDD and UDD

An overview of the types of OSDD

OSDD Type 1 (You can find OSDD-1B and OSDD-1A in there)

OSDD Type 2 and OSDD Type 3 (there was barely any information on these two outside of wikipedia and other not-really-professional blogs that i had access to, but I tried my best)

OSDD Type 2 and OSDD Type 3

OSDD Type 2 and OSDD Type 3

OSDD Type 4 (this will take you to a page called "Trance Disorder". That is what it's called in the ICD-11) (Possession Trance Disorder is also similar, you can find that here)

P-DID/Partial DID

Splitting, is it always trauma based? (the short answer, no. Direct quote: Many individuals cannot split unless a split is strictly necessary for their protection, functioning, or ability to remain hidden as a system. That said, there are exceptions. Some individuals may become so used to using splitting as a coping mechanism that they may split easily in response to seemingly minor stressors. For example, if an individual finds going to the doctor triggering, an alter may split that exists only to attend medical appointments. In some cases, systems may be so destabilized that even trauma processing leads to the creation of new parts.)

Polyfragmented DID: the very very basics

Polyfragmented DID: notes from a diagnosed polyfragmented DID system

Polyfragmented DID (you can find it on the side bar)

More notes on polyfragmented DID from a system, unable to tell if the system is diagnosed or in therapy

Comorbid disorders

Can alters have different disorders than the body? (I couldn't find a link, but short answer, yes and no. Neurodevelopmental disorders are things that are shared by all headmates, since it's all the same brain. So things like autism, ADHD, conduct disorders, those all are implemented into the brain and therefore all alters will have them. For stuff like eating disorders however, one alter may struggle with an eating disorder while others might not. Different alters can also present different symptoms/severity of a disorder.)

This is a post about a system(?) talking about fusion and their experiences

Integration and Fusion (or in simpler terms, integration is the act of breaking down amnesia barriers and building communication. Fusion is the act of fully integrating two parts into one.)

Dormancy (I could not find a good/reliable link, but it's basically when an alter "goes to sleep" for a period of time. This period of time can be long or short, and can happen for a multitude of reasons.)

Final Fusion and Functional Multiplicity

Time loss, Co Fronting, and Co Consciousness

Switching (covers passive influence too)

Passive Influence defined

Basics types of amnesia, not necessarily system related

More types of amnesia

The three most common types of amnesia from the system community, not necessarily scientific

-Emotional amnesia: where you don’t remember any emotions that you were feeling during the memory.

-Greyouts: when you remember what happened but have no memories of it, as if someone told you about the event and you might be able to recall certain details, but you weren’t there.

-Blackouts: when you don’t remember anything about what happened, and you often don’t remember that you missed something.

Innerworlds

Subsystems

Apparently Normal Parts and Emotional Parts

Primary Structural Dissociation

Secondary Structural Dissociation

Tertiary Structural Dissociation

You can find more resources here

A helpline that can help you understand and manage PTSD, dissociative disorders, and trauma can be found at (410) 825-8888 according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness

Crisis Text Line is a Text and Online Chat service provides 24/7 free support to those struggling with various mental health issues, including DID. Online chat: crisistextline.org Text: 741741

NAMI offers a volunteer helpline staffed by knowledgeable professionals who can answer your questions and connect you with valuable resources within your area. Call: (800) 950-6264 Text: Text "Helpline" to 62640

Basically every hotline you could need

Once again, these resources and information are not to be used to self-dx yourself. That means do not read this information and immediately say "oh yea i have this disorder". This is meant to be a starting point to learn more about dissociative disorders. If you feel like you might have any, do more research on your own. And, if you can, see and talk to a professional about it. These articles can be wrong. I can be wrong. We accept articles/papers/studies on anything here to correct us. Our only request is that it is not a carrd or something along those lines. This information is a starting point, and is not final.

Another good post about the basics of DID (not dissociative disorders in general, just DID and subtypes) can be found here

[thatonepersecutor]

Resources we recommend to learn about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) and Otherwise Specified Dissociative Disorder (OSDD):

YouTube:

Multiplicity And Me

Jess is now recovered from DID, but she has previously posted tons of educational videos on DID that are backed by studies and professionals. We recommend this channel to systems and to professionals wanting to learn more in depth detail about not only DID, but communication with the system, alter roles and internal relationships.

Websites (UK):

The NHS website

DID-research.org

Mind

Whilst I know we don't have a lot of resources, these are the places in which we have learned about DID. With both MultiplicityAndMe and DID-research sourcing their information from research papers, the DSM and ICD as well as professionals who specialise in trauma and dissociation, these are the sources of information we trust and recommend the most.

The NHS website and Mind do have information on dissociative disorders. Although this is just basic information and not in depth, it's still a good read if you need a basic definition of dissociative disorders and their symptoms.

If you have any more recommendations for YouTube channels that do educational videos on dissociative disorders (that are also backed by research papers & professionals), please feel free to recommend them, and we'll check them out!

[kipandkandicore]

so this poll has been up for a couple days now, and we are startled to learn that nearly 30% of responders believe that childhood trauma is not a requirement or prerequisite for developing complex dissociative disorders.

we’ve had multiple people either comment or send an ask to tell us studies have shown that cdds can form due to trauma after childhood. so far though, no one has been able to link a single article or source to back this claim.

we do believe childhood trauma is the catalyst that causes complex dissociative disorders to develop, and we’d like to provide some sources to demonstrate why we think this way.

did-research.org claims that complex dissociative disorders form from childhood trauma. on their website they link to other resources, and provide explanations and examples to demonstrate why childhood trauma is necessary for complex dissociative disorders to develop.

a visual understanding of how alters / parts are formed by trauma in did and osdd by the ctad clinic - we love this handy, easy-to-digest video! we actually used this video when explaining our disorder to some of our loved ones.

this post from @multiple-myselves includes citations for a plethora of academic articles (we believe 18 in total!) which attempt to disprove (but were unable to) that dissociative disorders do in fact form from childhood trauma. these studies point to trauma as a prerequisite for cdds.

this article by the american psychiatric association also demonstrates the link between dissociative disorders and repeated, overwhelming childhood trauma.

here’s a pdf of the haunted self, by onno van der hart, elliot r. s. nijenhuis, and kathy steele, a book which first explored structural dissociation as we know it and laid the groundwork for the tosd

this article from beauty after bruises puts a ton of misconceptions about did and other dissociative disorders to rest - including the misconception that dissociative disorders can form after childhood!

this systemic data review from 1990-2022 shows that, while the cutoff age is somewhat contested, there is overwhelming evidence that dissociative disorders form as a response to childhood trauma.

are dissociative disorders under researched? without a doubt. does that mean we should cast aside or refuse to acknowledge the research that does exist? absolutely not! hopefully these sources can help others learn more about dissociative disorders, and understand how childhood trauma plays a key role in their development.

there are tons more resources out there on how dissociative disorders work, and why childhood trauma is a requirement for cdds to form. please take some time to educate yourself, and feel free to ask questions or start a discussion!

[skiiyoomin]

I was wondering if you could write a saiki & reader oneshot fic with a reader who has DID & C-PTSD and paranoid tendencies? I understand that that might be a bit too hard to write but just in case I got some recorces that might be handy, here is the link to DID listing from my own copy of the newest version of the DSM https://www.dropbox.com/sh/htaraej65e34tg9/AADBATmelRQFUBfTMxaJ3W6wa?dl=0 as well as this website that has a lot of good info on it https://did-research.org/ and this page I found that has a brief overview of C-PTSD https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24881-cptsd-complex-ptsd but I also recommend quickly reading thru the different types of flashbacks (shouldn't be that hard to find info on)

The main idea is that because of the mix dissociation,switching,paranoia, different types of flashbacks etc that the readers thoughts are very fucking confusing to saiki (feel free to use this premise for any kind of plot you want just try not to make it overly angsty is all I ask, well as un-angsty as you can get with C-PTSD anyways lol) I just wanna see more y/n / reader inserts that I can actually relate to but the saiki K fandom is so small

Can be platonic or romantic

Hi!! So sorry for the late reply, I researched as much as I could so if theres anything remotely wrong or different please tell me! Ngl, im not very sure i like how it turned out, nevertheless I hope you enjoy :))

Also i totally get that its hard finding stuff for saiki k which is the reason why i write for it in the first place, they totally deserve more recognition!! Feel free to send more requests in the future!!

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Content: somewhat angsty but not really, i tried to be as vague as possible so as not to trigger anyone, reader suffers from trauma, DID, CPTSD, swearing, fluffy ending? slightly oc saiki

Summary: Saiki was used to listening to many types of thoughts, and at one point, nothing he heard surprised him. However when you came around, he was beyond confused. What sparks as a little curiosity might turn into something more.

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ღNo matter what

He was used to it, or at least that's what he used to tell himself. Throughout the years he had heard all sorts of thoughts, at one point, he learned to tune them out when need be, having listened in on weird enough ideas that now don't surprise him anymore.

When you came in the picture, he was...baffled, to say the least. Confusing wasn't even close of a word to express how he felt. Your thought process was anything but simple. At times it'd be a fuzzy mess almost as if you lost part of your memory, other times, you'd think as if you were a completely different person, contradicting many of your previous thoughts. But what disturbed him most was the series of traumatic thoughts that would cross your mind. Flashbacks he realized in that moment.

In the beginning he felt annoyed, as per usual. Often times, he'd find you in class with a dazed expression, which to be frank, he had seen enough times to not give it a second thought. But then his attention would be caught when your mind would wander and you'd start thinking in a very unusual way. They were so unlike the person you presented to be, so much so that Saiki was left perplexed and in need to understand exactly what was going on.

The more it happened the more worried he'd be. There were days where you acted a certain way, and other days where you acted completely different. He could tell you weren't being fake trying to act differently for attention, after all, your thoughts lined up with the you acted and the things you said. Rather, it was the abrupt changes in your behaviour that had him thinking for far longer than he normally would.

Along the way, he also picked up how you'd flinch if you were in sudden physical contact, the way your shoulders would tense and the way your heart beat would speed up. Saiki wasn't stupid of course, he was aware that all of this was caused by some form of trauma.

He knew not to pry, yet his heart strings pulled everytime he saw you having a bad moment. So he began to follow you, in disguise of course, and even if he seemed like a stalker, he couldn't help it. Eventually he began to connect the dots, your reactions, behaviors, everything. It made sense now.

Unconciously, his words began to soften around you, his touch became gentler, he looked out for you in ways he had never done so with others. You began to notice but in no way did you mind, if anything, Saiki was someone you took great comfort in. What started of small slowly grew into something neither of you expected.

Of course, that didn't make it any less hard for either of you. Like right now. You were laying in Saikis bed, your head resting on his shoulder as you watched a movie, when suddenly a specific scene had triggered an anxiety attack. Your mind was racing through flashbacks of the many disturbing events you had gone through. Saiki was up almost immediately, having read your mind and sensed your reaction.

His touch was soft, his hands cupping your face so gently you'd think he was scared to break you, which he was. He was in no way someone who could comfort others easily. Nevertheless he tried his best. He attempted to lower your heart rate, rubbing small circles against your back as his other hand held the back of your head. No words were needed, they never were. He had, in a way, been there for you, way before you two even became a thing, so none of this was a surprise for either of you.

That didn't ease the guilt in your heart any less. You always felt bad. You knew Saiki could read you, literally. And well, it wasn't pretty. Countless times you had attempted to push him away, yet he never budged.

"'m sorry" you mumbled against his shoulder as your rested your head on it.

He cupped your face in his hands, pulling you to look at him.

`I won't let you push me away. The things you went through won't make me see you any differently, because to me you'll still be someone I cherish'

Your eyes welled up as you looked him deep in the eyes, finding nothing but love for you. Still cupping your face, he ran his thumbs under your eyes, wiping the tears away. He leaned forward, pressing a gentle kiss to your forehead.

'I love you'

"No matter what?"

`No matter what'

[ghost-of-a-system]

Hey, could I ask for some pointers on how to identify if one is a system? I know it's not a one size fits all thing, but I'm just trying to figure things out, no pressure tho ^^ <33

every process is different, but this is how we went about it! we are personally self-diagnosed but we have had conversations with a few therapists regarding our suspicions (but they weren't the best therapists, and we weren't able to continue working with them) this post is from our lens/a traumagenic lens

the main thing people always say is research, research, and, more research, but it honestly is the best first step. we personally used websites like did-research.org, although it wasn't as useful for us, as someone with OSDD1b :') but that site did introduce us to the various different types of "dissociative identity" disorders, such as DID, OSDD1a and OSDD1b (particularly this page https://did-research.org/comorbid/dd/osdd_udd/did_osdd which was helpful in comparing each of them in an understandable way. this was the first time we read something and really had it "click" with our experience.)

i feel like sites like that are a good place to start/try to figure out what "type" resonates with you the most, and i feel that sometimes makes it easier to research from there! but it can always be helpful to do further research into the other types just to get different ways of explaining it/perspectives from those that have it.

one of, if not the most helpful thing, for us, was talking to other systems. we specifically spoke one-on-one with diagnosed & medically recognized systems who also had our suspected type (OSDD1b) (not to discredit self-diagnosed systems, coming from one, but we wanted to get a "for sure" concrete opinion). our conversations usually involved lots of question-asking and trying to lay out what we were experiencing, our concerns, etc. and comparing some of our basic experiences to their's.

it is also very very important to research disorders that could be misunderstood as DID/OSDD or have overlapping symptoms. i feel this is an extremely vital step in any self-diagnosis. things like personality disorders such as BPD, autism, even schizophrenia, etc. it's been a while since we have personally researched this so i can't name many off of the top of my head lol. but i feel this is very important. of course, it is always possible that there is a presence of several of these alongside DID/OSDD. personally we are diagnosed with autism and have an extreme suspicion that we have BPD as well.

all of these are not something that can be easily done overnight, or even in a few days, or even weeks, in our experience. it's very thorough and i believe it helps to leave a lot of time for you to just first research, have the knowledge of what to look out for in your head, and start making observations or notes about what you experience over time. that may help things become more clear.

as always having the support and assistance of a therapist/someone qualified in these disorders is the best option, but we know that it isn't that easy for everyone. not everyone is able to have access to these things for a variety of reasons, such as money or location, for starters.