#cptsd flag

[iolitemoth]

PTSD and C-PTSD Warriors from Linked Universe

[protoformx]

I think I have some sort of mental illness

[woodbyne]

   ＠ CPTSD

An awareness flag for those with [ symptoms of ] complex post traumatic stress disorder.

Requested by @saintuar ^.^

[Plain text start: CPTSD. An awareness flag for those with (bracket) symptoms of (end bracket) complex post traumatic stress disorder. Requested by saintuar (happy emoticon) .Plain text end]

[miffyscreams]

**not cutesy sad girl blogging, feel free to scroll on if ur not interested !!

i know there are a lot of people on here who are in their young/mid teens and might be seeking help for the first time (or doing so soon) so i just wanted to put this out there- misdiagnosis is possible and extremely, extremely common. this is specifically tailored to bpd because i know most of us here have it

i completely understand wanting a diagnosis to understand why you do the things you do and feel the way that you do and that is 100% completely fine. but please, please be careful that you don’t become so desperate for answers that you end up accepting an inaccurate or unethical label. if you’re under 18 and early in therapy (less than a year) or not in inpatient care and receive a formal bpd diagnosis, please be careful. it’s often not a misdiagnosis and is likely to be correct but it goes against ethical standards and is a massive red flag of your provider. minors can have bpd (and do!! it starts developing super young) but the diagnostic process is very different to when you’re an adult and should only be made in an emergency or after long term observation. this doesn’t mean you don’t have bpd, it just means that your psych has not gone through the proper process and that can have implications for the rest of your care. being medically recognised is a completely different story and not a bad thing. but when your personality is technically still developing, your provider needs to be 100% sure without a doubt that it is disordered and not caused by anything else before putting a formal diagnosis on your file. not doing that is unethical even if the diagnosis is correct. the amount of teenage girls who have been misdiagnosed with bpd and ended up actually having autism, adhd or cptsd that goes untreated until their 30s is astounding. you probably do have bpd but you should not get a bpd diagnosis put on your record at fifteen years old after seeing your psychologist for three sessions.

in that same vein, if you receive a diagnosis (of any disorder, at any age) and it doesn’t feel right, PLEASE CHALLENGE IT. please seek a second opinion if you have concerns. being treated for the wrong diagnosis can make your condition worse. being viewed with the stigma of a disorder that you don’t have can make your condition worse. up until this year i spent seven years of my life receiving misdiagnosis after misdiagnosis. trust me when i say you’re better off getting no diagnosis at all than getting the wrong one. this is especially true if you think you have bpd but end up getting a bipolar diagnosis- most medications have an inverse effect on us and being prescribed a cocktail of atypicals because they think you’re just not responding to the meds will fuck you up.

there’s a lot of fearmongering online, especially on tiktok, about getting a formal bpd diagnosis so i also just wanted to clear up that no, you will not be rejected entry from countries, you will not be rejected for loans or home ownership and you will not be rejected from career opportunities. the only people who have access to your medical records without a subpoena are your doctors. you are not legally obligated to tell anybody and nobody outside of your care team is allowed to access or request your info outside of a court setting. being diagnosed does not ruin your life as long as you have good medical professionals around you.

if you want to seek help, PLEASE DO. but please advocate for yourself whenever necessary. you deserve help and you deserve a team who listens to your concerns and diagnoses you responsibly. most professionals will leave a diagnosis off your record if you request it (usually unless it’s schizophrenia or bipolar, literally only because it’s important for everybody providing you any form of treatment in any context to know). good psychs will allow you to question a diagnosis and a lot will let you reject it or ask for extra consideration.

[mydarlingedits]

Could I get some user boxes pretty please? Take your pick from any/all of these:

-This User has BPD

-This User has OSDD

-This User is Autistic

-This User has CPTSD

-This User has ADHD

-This User is Psychotic

With their respective flags (roll the dice on ones with more than one flag! You know me, I'm not picky!)

Tytyty!!!

- 🦊

VARIOUS USER BOXES

Used this as an opportunity to make my own custom user box template!! All hand drawn by me!! ᯓᡣ𐭩

ᯓᡣ𐭩 Requested by 𓇿 🦊 anon / mutual .ᐟ

        𐙚˙⋆.˚ Date Posted 𓇿 12/18/24 .ᐟ

ᯓᡣ𐭩 Terms of use 𓇿 Free with Credit .ᐟ

[zack-agere]

Hello! Do you know of any disability agere and caregiver flags? For regressors and caregivers who have a disability @agere-edelric

all found on @bunnelbaby's agere flag masterlist : x

list of disabled agere flags i could find :

- disabled agere

- disabled petre

- disabled caregiver

- disabled regressor

- second disabled flags

- disorder acceptance

- npd flags

- aspd flags

- bpd flags

- dpd agere

- pdnos flags

- psychotic flags

- ptsd / cptsd flags

- wheelchair user flags

- amputee flags

- neurodivergant

- second neurodivergant regressor

- adhd flags

- second adhd

- third adhd

- autistic

- second autistic

- third autistic

- forth autistic

- autistic boyreg

- second autistic boyreg

- autistic + adhd

- stimming

- hypoglycaemia

- speech loss regressor

- quiet

- hypersexual

- hyperromantic

There are probably more that either haven't been archived or that I couldn't find !

[norskheks]

When I started typing the tags I didn't realize I was gonna write an essay in them, but now I can't be arsed to retype them up here, so... see several words on Ed's childhood trauma below.

i don't understand the "izzy is just as much to blame if not more as stede for ed becoming the kraken" thing. like stede is the one who flayed ed open, izzy just threw salt in the wound. sometimes i'm like "do y'all even like gentlebeard" because i don't understand why people minimize the impact that stede had on ed. david jenkins has said multiple times that ed's never been hurt like this before and that this profound rejection is deranging him. like how are y'all not lapping that shit up because stede making ed go crazy is one of my fave parts of the ship 😭

[pplatonic]

i made some blinkies for my site

free to use without credit. i only ask that:

only people with npd / npd traits use the "god complex" one because it uses the NPD flag as backdrop,

only schizospecs use the "original schizoposter" one because it's meant to reclaim the idea of "schizoposting",

only psychosis spec and schizospec people, and people who relate to our struggles, use the "i'd rather die than be sane" one because it uses @schizosupport 's flag for those groups

i love making blinkies and i'd love to put a billion of them on my site so if you want to send me requests (ESPECIALLY FOR LAIN ONES!! my neocities is lain themed cause im the biggest lainkin on the block so.) just send me some text and idea for the background and i'll do it for you when i have time

(with the obvious caveat i'll only make neurodivergent-exclusive ones for neurodivergencies that i have. so schizophrenia bpd npd did cptsd ocd)

[vocalux]

Could you make a traumababyboy/girl flag? Its an identity when it feels like your age, gender, an negative life experiences are tied together (this is tied for disorders like DPD and CPTSD especially) and you feel really young and small, but also pathetic and weak and feel like you need to be cared for and loved, and surround yourself in babyish things for comfort for your identity too feel at ease. People with this identity may also feel extreme age dysphoria and or gender dysphoria.

— traumababyboy [ trauma-baby-boy ]

when an individuals gender ( in that case , boy ) , age , and negative experiences are tied together !

— traumababygirl [ trauma-baby-girl ]

when an individuals gender ( in that case , girl ) , age , and negative experiences are tied together !

[luxiomahariel]

flag for people who reclaim "black sheep / scapegoat"

flag structure is based off of the ptsd and cptsd flags

[shos-hole-again]

(dividers by @/nerdconsumer)

infinitepersona-alterpacks -> die-prinzessin-coins/transid-confessions -> shos-hole -> shos-hole-again!

HELLO EVERYNYAN!! As you may or may not know, my name is Sho, and I am the host of the cathedral astroplex, a collection of 11(+) systems within one body! There's a bit more about me below the cut :P

WHAT THIS BLOG IS FOR: this is a MUD coining blog! feel free to send in requests! i have a hyperfixation on psychiatry currently, and will do my best with whatever you give me. All I ask is that you give me at least 4 symptoms to work with per disorder per request. You may request up to three separate coinings within one ask.

This blog is welcome to everybody. Be kind to each other.

!! CONSIDER ME AN ID DUMPING GROUND ! YOU ALL MAY GIVE ME NEW IDENTITIES WHENEVER YOU WOULD LIKE ^_^ !!

MY COINING MASTERLIST CAN BE FOUND HERE (WIP)

FOR MUD REQUESTS!!

Please include at least 4 symptoms, as mentioned above! These can be physical, emotional, etc. You may include as much detail as you'd like- the more the better! My MUDs do not come with flags. My MUDs will be formatted as follows;

Diagnostic Criteria: Symptoms.

Subtypes (if applicable):

Diagnostic Features: Expanding upon symptoms.

Associated Features: Ways that symptoms may impact daily life.

Risk and Prognostic Features: These are all assumed by myself.

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As mentioned above, we are the Cathedral Astroplex, a collection of over ten systems within one mortal shell we call a 'body.' The systems within are the unholy cathedral, marigold crossing, weeping angels, candy collective, wonderland horde, cruel infinity cosmos, bones system, melancholic garden system, garnet tower system, sakura station, and two unnamed but known other sidesystems.

Here's a little intro for the collective though!

Names: Sho, Cathy/Cait, Rumi, Motya, Cathedral, Itsuki, Haoran

Pronouns: he / night / dark / holy / He / hymn / hx / it / xt / rose / cut / slice / pill / bandage / meat / rot / gore / guro / decay / 🦇 / 🕷️ / 🥀 / 🥩 / 🍷 / ♟️ / 🕯️ / 🪓 / 🗡️ / ⚰️ / 💊 / 🖋️ / ⬛️

Titles: the thing of nightmares, the one dripping blood, [PRN] whose body is rotting, [PRN] forsaken holiness, [PRN] decayed eminence, [PRN] who is god incarnate

Ages: permateen, perma14, agehazy, shotaage, fluctage, polyage, chrono20

Genders: trisintersex, transfemmasc, bandagedangelic, cariadore, neglectedpet, whorepretty, vampfrilled, vampbatbloodkissic, boytoy, pomegranategender, injuredvamp, boyloser, transmascdoll, boyprincess, injuredlambian, needyloverboy, vamppretty, canilovin, malewifething, boywife, obsessivething, th?ngfreak, woundedpatheticboy, boyfreak, patheticboyfreak, cherryfoxgender, goreboy

MRDisorders + Disabilities: DID, Autism LVL2, ADHD, GAD, Agoraphobia, Synaesthesia, Maladaptive Daydreaming Disorder, NPD, BPD, ASPD, HPD, Selective Mutism, Persistent Vocal Tic Disorder, OCD, CPTSD, Depression, Hypochondriasis, Germaphobia, Caffeine Addiction, Dermatillomania, DPD, Tinnitus, POTS, Hypermobile EDS, MCAS, Nutcracker Syndrome, Progressive Hearing Loss, Dysphagia, Chronic Pain, IBS, Bipolar Depression

Ethnicities: nullCaucasian, trisChinese, transJapanese, transSámi, transRomani, transKarelian, transNativeAmerican (Hopi, Diné), transTaino, transBrazilian, spinAncientGreek

Nationalities: transChinese, transLiyuen, panAsian

Experiences: permaattention, permacold, permaDIDsplitting, permatortured, permavictim, permaprogrammed, permaNPDhigh, permadizzy, permagroomingvictim, permainjured, permamanipulove, permaneedy, permasleepy, permamanipulated, transarmcrutchesuser, transCOCSA, trisCSA, trisharmed, transhypersexual, transMunchausenByProxyvictim, transowned, transpampered, permacollared, transmuzzled, transpampered, transSH, transworsebalance, transacademic, transgenius, transsource (collective source being Dazai from BSD and Nico DiAngelo from PJO), transdeatheater, transallhogwartshouses, transnicotineaddict, transalcoholic, trisSAd, triskneebraceuser, transprinceprogram, transtwinprogram, trisidolprogram, transraped, trisTBMC, transcaptive, panRAMCOAtrauma, transcannibal, transhikikomori, permakidnapped, permahospitalized, permapatient, permainlove, permanosebleed, permaconsang, transloveydovey, forcestarved, transfailedhumanexperiment, transscanlator, permaforceregressed, triscolorblind, permadentalbraces, transservicedogowner, transflatexpression, trishyperdependent, permaplushhold, permaautumn, permabrainwashed, translobotomized, cherrysodaamian, transyoutuber, transimmortality, panartskill, transhandwriting, nullbalance, permaheat, trisomega, severieyesight, permadazed, permavertigo, permainnocent, panlingual, transchildishvocabulary, shotaharmed, permahypnotized, transforcedcamboy, transforcedsexworker, transmedicaltorture, transwhiteroomtorture, trisalphaprogramming, trisbetaprogramming, trisiotaprogramming, transinsanityprogramming, nullprinceprogramming, transspoiledbrat, transclickertrained, perma2020, permalockdownera, permaquarantined, trisyumejoshi, hobbyhoarder, transchildpornstar, forcedchildpornstar, transfult, permarapebait, permacuddling, transhellenicpagan, transreligious, trisrottengirl, permaD&D, permapedobait, permasnuffbait

Allergies: transsunallergy, transdandelionallergy, transgrassallergy, transbeeallergy, transnutallergy, transeggwhiteallergy, transpenicillinallergy, transpollenallergy, transperfumeallergy, trislatexallergy, transsteelallergy, transnickelallergy, transgoldallergy

Perceptions: permaadored, permacaredfor, permapitied, permavalidated, transinternetcelebrity, transstalked, transrussianaccent, transmonotonevoice, permasickvoice

Species: transfox, transkitsune, transvampire, transplushie, transfoxplush, transsnowleopard

Appearance: permaeyebags, permabandaged, permashota, transclaws, transfangs, transfoxears, transhairtexture (straight -> fluffy/wavy), transheight (shorter, 5’2 -> 4’10), transunderweight, transfoxtail, transcigburns, transheterochromia, permabloodiedteeth, transswirlpupils, nullglasses, permaosugaki, transremovedfingerprints, transboobs, transbloodshoteyes, transheterochromia, permabruised, permascars, shotabodic, transpoliosis, transdiphalia

Other IDs: genshinixure, transgenshinvision, transcherryscent, auti4auti, t4t, vamp4vamp, victim4cannibal, transprogrammed4transprogrammer, abumour, propID, foxmate, morguemate, AIAB, CTM, gaybian, multisona, OCDdead, systransidfluid, id hoarder, alter hoarder, introject hoarder, radplex, shota4shota, shota4adult, minor4adult, rq4rq, transid4transid

[antlerkitty]

Meeting with the complex cases guy was so good! He was very nice and he also uses a cane and he was wearing a lanyard with the intersex progress pride flag. Felt quite a bit safer with him than with some other doctors who see my transness from very clinical perspective. Was also ok with my research and didn’t call me obsessed.

He’s taking me as a patient for long-term therapy which super awesome. Very happy to have after years of waiting. We talked about mostly cPTSD and dissociative amnesia and some about autism too with harmful/destructive stims.

We’re going to talk about interpersonal stuff (cluster b traits in my case) next week he said, because that is like first step in the order of things that affecting me, so have been writing that down, but brain is doing the denial thingy again where it goes “but this is so much less important and harder to work with, do something more fun and easy” so that’s hard.

[dolconfessionsss]

Some private messages from Devil! Wanted to screenshot these, but there were too much, so copy pasting the messages instead:

Devil here.

I did not expect to actually be asked questions! I'm surprised! I'm well aware a lot of people have issues with me and I have taken steps to address them. I do take feedback pretty seriously even if I have stated I don't want the Discord to be a typical fandom space that doesn't mean it has to be a toxic hellhole for anyone who even tries to engage with lighter stuff.

For the stuff I do like about DoL uhhhh...oh God..uh...

Well okay, I've always stated in the server and in-general that I'm a huge fan of 4 NPCs. Bailey, Gwylan, Harper and Eden. So I'll start with those!

Bailey and Eden obviously have history, having been childhood friends, so I find their dynamic and what they are in the world super interesting. Eden fled from his trauma (He has CPTSD, for those that care), while Bailey stayed to seek revenge (You can find him blackmailing Quinn in-game). That instantly to me creates interesting dynamics and real-world parallels! Bailey is also obviously here contributing to the abuse and suffering that's felt in town.

Hi! I have no idea side blogs have their own dedicated private message. So hey! Thanks to your messages, now I know that LMAO.

Also thanks for reaching out! Honestly didn't expect you to reach out yourself, so I appreciate the forwardness :]

Gonna respond to your answers one by one because wowza, there's a lot to go through. Gotta say first though, shaking my hands with you so hard on finding Eden and Bailey dynamics with each other and the town so damn interesting. The way they responded to their trauma respectively says a LOT about their characters; but also, I've always been a sucker of the 'cycle of violence' theme which made me love Bailey even more than I already do 💖

Harper feeds into tropes I love. He's so weird. I've personally argued that he should use his genitalia less during sex-scenes because I am really into the idea of him just getting off using his weird brain-worms and the power of sheer autism. Puri disagrees with me on that and I do accept that sometimes what I want is just fueled by my own 'tism rather than any sort of proper design lmao.

Gwylan is just wish-fulfillment tbh. I have a soft-spot for Witchy, weird, alternative type characters. Always did. Gwylan fills that spot perfectly. Makes me like them.

Personally not much of a Harper or Gwylan fan since I just don't interact with them much in-game; but always fun to see underrated character like Gwylan being loved!

(+Obviously I'm a fan of Kylar and Sydney, their failed childhood friendships, Kylar being a child of Auriga Worshipers, Sydney of Virgo worshipers, I like the Historical references through the Ivory Wraith, I like all of the Love Interests having their own red flags, I like Avery being a serial abuser and a commentary of how easy it is for the rich to abuse the poor and write them off as nothing more than things to be abused, used or toyed with.)

Fun fact, I didn't even know Kylar and Sydney were childhood friends until I saw a fanart depicting them as such and looked it up LMAO. And we love an old rich bastard being an entitled asshole 🫶💕

For other things I like about DoL they mostly have to do with real-world comparisons, trauma, history, etc. I've made a rather long-post about how I think about the town as a result of insularism and isolation turning a pseudo-Christian faith through it's own localized schism towards what we now have with Auriga and Virgo, aka The Children (The Cult) and The Temple, and how their increased radicalization erased the middle of the town.

I also like the commentary about how easy it is to ignore and normalize violence towards marginalized groups, something Vrel spoke about in a rather good interview from 2022.

As a whole you can see I have a very heavy focus on the worldbuilding, characters and lore, and because of my personal interest in the more realistic aspects of the game or comparing them to the real world it does cause some butting of heads due to it basically being anti-escapism.

That's a definitely another take to have on the game. I'm personally not too big of a fan for the realistic aspects in a lot of medias, most of these are escapism entertainments so we're definitely on the opposite ends of the spectrum on this matter :'D

I'm very open to discussing a lot of stuff about the game, plans and lore! For the Bailey-sex thing I did argue in favor of removing it, but that wasn't anything close to a Solo-Decision. There are 5 or more people usually involved in long-term decision making with PurityGuy and Vrelnir having the final say and veto power always.

Oh no, yeah. I think a lot of the anons have agreed that it wasn't a one-man decision. I figure most of them are more irked by your message of making fun of them. Even if it's done in a playful manner, not everyone will take it as so. Especially when they are probably already irked by the sex scene removal, your comment is like a fuel added to the fire 😔

Soft-Eden is OOC, I know a lot of people like his softer side and that's good. Not all of it will nor should be removed. Mostly the stuff to do with specific dates and going into town. I argue in favor that to not harm his character too much he should get more soft-evens down the line, especially once pregnancy content rolls in. He DOES genuinely care about PC, his actions, even putting PC in a cage and such come from a place of care and worry that unless he does these thing PC will not learn and will endanger themselves.

Thankfully the Eden stuff isn't as bad as the Morgan stuff. Morgan needs an ENTIRE rewrite.

Well I can't wait to see all Eden's rewrites and future new contents. Love me their delusional romance ass <3 Also lol, I don't know anything about Morgan, so I'm just going to take your words on that. Definitely sounds like a lot of work for y'all to do behind the scene, so best of luck on that o7

I can't comment much on the topic of Abortion in-game. It's just something we don't want to engage with. +As both cults in town (Yes tbh even the Temple is a cult), worship life and giving birth no one in town would even be willing nor able to perform it. (Yes I know this can easily be written off as just the writers being puritanical but there are just some topics we don't want in the game. It's not a pure sandbox, it's not just a life-sim. There are gonna be endings, permanent consequences, etc in the game. I think people have a right to choose what topics, fetishes, etc, they wanna engage with, and especially CREATE with as Developers, Writers, etc.)

That's a fair reason, yeah! I think if you were open about this reason being why abortion won't be in the game, it could dissuade a lot of the player's dissatisfication. The main reason why it was such a big issue is I think because no one from the dev team seems closed off about it when asked!

Another thing to note is that DoL has become HUGE, and so it's rather obvious why we'd want to steer so clear from mentions or sexualization of children. We really do mean it when we say the NPCs, LIs, etc are all adults. I'm well aware in fiction for many people anything goes. I've written Ao3 fics, I'm not entirely clueless. The dead dove has been eaten. It's chewy. But yeah, some things are just hard No because we or find it off-putting, immoral or it's outright illegal and could get people like Vrelnir in trouble. Even more so because he makes a living from DOL and donations earned through it.

That makes senses! I know a lot of commerical platforms don't allow sexual portrayal of underage or children character even in fictional context, and I have seen some notable artists being banned entirely for loli/shota contents. But it's also still fair to avoid that just cause the dev team are squicked by it. At the end of the day, it'll be rather unhealthy to create something that actively discomfort you :')

If you have any more questions feel free to ask! I'm basically terminally online most days, sometimes I just dip and aren't seen, but I should be around to talk today until the evening.

I do have to say you've been pretty reasonable and communicative, that's really what actually inspired me to reach out. I'm used to communication being just shut-off or one-sided but you did ask genuine questions and put forward some good points.

Once again, thank you too! I'm glad my overall impresson have been mostly positive 💖

+My evilness is mostly an act to keep the server Dev-Focused and not cause me to tweak out after the 56500th mention of some fetish. (Yes, yes I'm well aware people are still gonna do what they want and it's a porn game server (even though we don't allow most kinds of NSFW talk, we don't have porn channels, etc) but I want to try to at least police the place a LITTLE bit... And I'm not always evil. I often feed chat little mini-fics and such.)

- Devil. Yes, the one with the red role in the server that appears when her name is mentioned. Yes I'm aware it's comedic.

Oh I forgot you're not IN THE SERVER so have no context for the last bit.

We have a Bot in the server that pings us in DMs when certain words (mostly slurs, insults etc) are mentioned and we get pinged for our names.

So people can literally *speak of the Devil* and I appear. Yes it's as funny as it sounds.

I do have to disagree with the 'evilness' that you act out. If someone is breaking the rules, as an admin, you have the right (even expectation) to moderate it! Be stern! Give out warnings, strike or a ban! But I just don't see how putting up this evil act is going to be helpful to prevent more rule breaking. It made it feels like there's no rule breaking happening because no moderation is being done, and that you're just picking on someone out of personal icks.

It's just overall off-putting, in my opinion. And bringing up contents made by users from their other social media unpromptly feels incredibly rude to me. They are all publically available, yes! But if someone were to suddenly show me an old, awful fan content I made without so much as a 'hello', it would definitely leave a bad taste to me - even if the intention are lighthearted and I know that, still won't change that it'll leave a bad impression to me.

On another note, the name mention is actually a really neat feature :0c So it still mentioned you even if a user didn't specifically mention you?

I tried to send that as an Ask btw, but it was far too long and so couldn't. You can screenshot this and share it, just please crop out my account!

Oh and if you're wondering yes I am aware who was sending you the long ass formal Asks, it's a friend of mine.

I do genuinely care about how the community feels and I felt it was good to reach out, I just needed their help to see if you were open to talking and how you felt and all that before I BELLY-FLOPPED into your DMs!

Oh, just remembered something I forgot to say.

SYDNEY IS VERY MUCH NOT A PURITYGUY SELF INSERT LMAO. LIKE VERY, VERY MUCH NOT SO. SYDNEY IS A SPINELESS PAIN HUMONCOLUS THAT IS DOOMED TO SUFFER. (I can explain what I mean if you have questions.)

I definitely think anon is just speculating, nothing that's concrete. I can't blame anon entirely though, it's not too hard of a comparison to make since PurityGuy's whole aesthetic is very much like that.

And ooh, I'd love to hear more about you mean by Sydney being a 'spineless pain humoncolus that is doomed to suffer' 👀🍿

I've also been curious about how the contributor system works? What changed now that prevent OOC writing from occuring again, or to lessened it instead? 🤔

[lostradqueer]

Anti psychiatry neurodivergent flag

a flag for neurodivergent people who are anti-psychiatry, had terrible experiences with psychiatry, are self diagnosed and don’t want to be professionally diagnosed, had trauma with psychiatry, are anti manicomial etc.

colors meaning

Red : people with antisocial disorder

Purple : people with trauma, borderline, cptsd, ptsd etc.

Darker blue : people with depression, depressive disorders

Blue : people with other disorders unspecified etc.

Green : people with psychotic disorders

Yellow : people with did osdd

Brown : people with narcissism, histrionic disorder

By : exoticlabelsblog

[ur-fav-is-older-than-discokid]

General Blog Info

(Repost because tumblr thought the original info post was mature content??)

The blog's name is kind of a misnomer. This is a blog for characters that existed before May 18th of 2009, which is the release date for Punch-Out!! Wii in North America, the game in which Disco Kid was introduced. This blog is not for characters who are older than Disco Kid's canon age (20). That would be lame.

Of course, I can’t run this blog all on my own. I need your guys’ suggestions! Here are the rules for submitting characters.

1) This blog is for characters that existed before May 18th, 2009, not characters older than 20 in canon. (For example, despite being a child, Link from The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker could be posted to this blog, since WW came out in 2004. King Rhoam from The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild would not count for this blog because even though he is an old man, BOTW came out in 2016.)

2) I say characters but submissions can be anything. Fictional characters, places, real people, books, video games, TV/movies, songs, albums, other??? Get creative. (The reason real people are OK here is because this is a fact-based blog and not a hc one. If a celebrity’s age and birthday are public knowledge, I don’t think they’ll be uncomfortable with a random tumblr blog pointing it out QwQ)

3) Surprisingly (/s), I am not familiar with every piece of media that’s ever existed. So, if you send in a request and I get information in the post wrong, please feel free to send an ask or a DM or whatever and correct me! I won’t be offended, and I’ll update the post, no hassle. If the date of a character’s first appearance or of something’s release would be confusing to an outsider, consider writing the “birthday” directly in the ask! You don’t have to do this, but it’ll prevent me from getting things wrong on accident ^^

4) Only content disqualification is like, explicitly seggsual stuff. Suggestive things are okay, as are characters from suggestive things, but if the character/media is straight up poon I'm not doing it bc I wanna keep this blog mostly SFW (ignore the bad censoring, trying to repost the intro without having it flagged)

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We Really Need To Talk About Henry Creel and the "Psychopath" Label.

I'm putting the word "psychopath" on a high shelf and out of reach until further notice because we as a whole clearly a) does not understand what psychopathy is, b) does not know what it actually looks like in people, and c) is more than happy feeding into the already existing stigma around the disorder by using the term to describe someone who is a villain, but who's also very much not a psychopath if you look at his actual mannerisms and beliefs.

That is to say: If we completely ignore any timeline fuckery and treat Vecna/Henry like one singular guy...The terms you all are looking for are "pathological altruism", "superiority complex", cPTSD, and/or autism.

Y'know, things that can stem from intense, prolonged childhood trauma and are characterized by a) believing oneself to have the power, authority, and duty to fix others' problems for them, b) fluctuations in sensitivity/reactivity to triggering situations, and c) reactive judgmental behavior.

"Psychopath" is not a catch-all for villains, and it does not equate to "violent man disorder".

Let's do a little psychoanalysis of what Henry actually does, working chronologically.

Little Henry (age 12)

He's described as "sensitive". This is code for many things throughout the show, some of which being artistic tendencies, quiet personality, increased vulnerability to emotional harm, queerness, neurodivergence, and connection to the supernatural.

He's shown gently collecting spiders in furnished jars. Henry identifies with the spiders, identifies that they both have been cast aside, and uses that connection to reach the conclusion that the spiders need love and care. He then handles them gently and spends time making homes for them. This alone is a display of empathy, sympathy, and compassion.

He's lonely, rejected by his mother and his peers. This rejection hurts him, and he later bitterly internalizes/recontextualizes the experience to avoid that hurt.

He's called "broken", but later realizes that he isn't broken at all. This indicates that he believed he was broken for some span of time, and his later anger surrounding the topic indicates that that experience hurt him.

He displays a variety of emotions. Henry openly displays sadness, fear, anger, enjoyment, fascination, and excitement.

He is unable to hide his social "wrongness". He couldn't hide the fact that he was different from the other children, indicating that a) he tried and failed, and b) he wanted to fit in at one point.

His father seemed to have liked him as a person. Whatever was "wrong" with Henry, whatever it was that he couldn't hide, it wasn't something that made Victor dislike him.

He recognizes cruelty in society and openly condemns it. Yes, I recognize the later irony in that. That's part of the narrative structure of his villain arc. This isn't about Vecna, it's about preteen Henry.

He hates dishonesty. Whether it be dishonesty with others or with the self, Henry has a specific and powerful hatred of lying.

Now, if anyone tries to tell you about diagnosed "child psychopaths", they're lying to you.

Psychopathy is clinically knowns as Anti-Social Personality Disorder, and it cannot be diagnosed until ages 18+, since children tend to grow out of any "psychopathy markers" they might display in childhood. Children displaying these markers might be flagged as having "conduct disorder", but not psychopathy.

However, lets look at the markers anyway:

GM: Grandiose-Manipulative, DI: Daring-Impulsive, CU: Callous-Unemotional Source

Conduct disorder: Generally characterized by aggression towards others/destruction of property, lying, theft, and limited prosocial emotions. GM: Superficial charm, glibness, suave behavior. Megalomania and narcissism. Lying. DI: Fearlessness, impulsivity, recklessness, lack of responsibility. Risk taking behaviors. CU: Lack of remorse, empathy, sympathy, or compassion. Shallow emotional affect.

Let's tally him up.

Psychopathy:

Grandiose-Manipulative: ❌ Henry does not fit in, and it's clear to everyone that he does not fit in. He can't hide this, no matter how hard he tries. He is not charming or suave. He also internalizes the "broken" label and recognizes that he's rejected for a reason, and it hurts him. It's only later in his childhood that he realizes being different=/=being broken. He has a specific hatred of lying. If we compare him to Billy, the narrative anti-hero who acts as both parallel and foil to him, we can see artificial charm in action. Billy lies and uses acting to get his way. Repeatedly (see: his interactions with Karen). Billy represents GM behaviors in action. Little Henry is, then, in direct conflict with GM traits.

Daring-Impulsive: ❌ Henry only lashes out with violence when he perceives himself as being in imminent danger. He is shown as and later described as being afraid. The only fearlessness we see is in regard to spiders, and that fearlessness can be traced back to his empathy for the spiders as disliked/socially rejected creatures. Again, Billy. Billy and his erratic driving with Max in ST2 and his attempted fling with Karen are both classic displays of DI traits. Little Henry, in contrast, does not display DI traits.

Callous-Unemotional: ❌ Henry displays a range of genuine emotions. He also displays empathy, sympathy, and compassion. He's described as a sensitive child, for heaven's sake. Billy, as a contrast, does not display empathy, sympathy, or compassion. He's unnecessarily cruel and violent for his own entertainment (the car scene) or to maintain control (Max), and he does not display remorse for it. Little Henry does not meet the criteria for CU traits.

Conduct Disorder:

Aggression/Destruction: ❌ Henry is often hiding, he's reclusive, his father describes him as "sensitive", and he's gentle with the spiders. Even his later visions aren't particularly aggressive. It's spiders crawling out of a drain, a cradle in a fireplace. Disturbing, yes, but not aggressive. Henry is shown killing a rabbit, but his reaction is distinctly unhappy and we're only conclusively shown him doing so once. Due to differences in killing style between his singular kill and the other dead animals his family finds on the property and the fact that there are animals that show up mutilated on the Creel property which Henry wouldn't reasonably have access to (see: chickens)...It's not a concrete pattern of behavior. He's not an aggressive child, especially if compared to Billy. Billy is openly violent and aggressive, and he seeks out opportunities to physically hurt others. Henry does not do this. He only lashes out when cornered, which is what happened in 1959 (if we take canon at face value).

Theft: ❌ We are not shown any instances of or inclination towards theft.

Low guilt/remorse: Inconclusive Henry is shown (supposedly) practicing his powers on a rabbit, but he looks distinctly disturbed while doing so. Henry lashes out at his mother with his powers and displays little remorse, but that was self-defense, which muddies the remorse waters. Compare him to Billy, who is clearly enjoying tormenting kids whenever he can (see: the fatshaming at the pool, Max in the car, Lucas at the Byers house). Generally, Henry doesn't meet this criterion, but it remains inconclusive.

Low Empathy: ❌ Henry visibly and verbally displays empathy for the spiders (A similar trait in autism: more empathy for creatures than humans)

Low Affiliative Behaviors: Inconclusive He has issues with regulating eye-contact (it seems like he tends to stare), and he doesn't seem to seek people out. He's reclusive and quiet. However, these are also shared traits with autism...or just being an introvert, and we do see him display warmth/happiness on multiple occasions. We also know he has interest in connection with others due to his later bitterness over the lack of connection he experienced as a child.

Deceitfulness: ❌ Henry hates lying and dishonesty. That's his whole thing.

Fearlessness: ❌ Henry visibly and verbally displays fear on many occasions.

Henry Creel, age 12, is not meeting the markers for conduct disorder/precursors for psychopathy.

Next time point.

Henry Creel, age 32: Orderly

He's good with kids. He soothes El's anxiety, calmly engages with her anger surrounding her mother, sits on the floor beside her to be on her level, takes her concerns seriously, and tries to help her succeed against her struggles in the lab.

He's relatively social. He's the only orderly who interacts with the children willingly/actively seeks out social connection with the children. He's shown wandering around the room observing them, and he seeks El out as company (this will come back later).

He's not harsh with the children. In ST1, we see El being carries around by her arms and thrown around by orderlies. We see Henry being dragged by his arms by orderlies after his electrocution scene. Henry, even when given the authority of an orderly, doesn't engage in this kind of disregard for a) personal space, b) autonomy, and c) wellbeing. The worst we see from him is his reprimand of 002 when 002 is bullying El, and even that's just a quick verbal reprimand.

He empathizes and sympathizes with the children. Henry is openly disturbed by 002's electrocution, even when no one is watching him except the audience. El isn't watching, Brenner isn't watching. Henry empathizes with 002, given that his own electrocution scene just happened in the previous episode. We're being shown genuine empathy and sympathy coming from Henry.

He's still quiet, gentle, and reclusive. He often hunches in on himself when he's not being watched by Brenner. He's consistently soft-spoken and unassuming. His likability comes from his lack of stereotypical superficial charm/suaveness. He comes off as the guy who was bullied to hell and back as a kid, not like a politician (which is what psychopathic charm is most likened to).

When he isn't being like that, it's an act...and an unconvincing one at that. Henry looks distinctly uncomfortable and out of place when he's trying to play the straight-backed, unfeeling orderly. We get tons of side-eye from him directed at Brenner. He doesn't enjoy being on display like that.

Henry tries to help El and then acknowledges that it didn't work/made things worse.

Henry tries to help El escape with no request for anything in return. Her escape was not transactional. Soteria's removal only happened when El reached out about Henry not coming with her, and even then he never asks her to remove it. He gives her information, and then he lets her make her own choices. She wants him to come with, he did not ask her to set him free. All this, despite the fact that he easily could have asked her to remove it as repayment for letting her loose without any red flags being raised on El's part.

Henry displays concern for El's wellbeing He takes her with him when the guards come running after Soteria, even though it would have been a good distraction/would have given him a head start if he'd left her. He defends her and himself from the guards who clearly want to hurt them. He hides her in the store room and tells her he's going to find them a way out.

Let's tally him up.

Grandiose-Manipulative: ❌ Henry still lacks the "classic" psychopathic charm. He's still a bit kooky, definitely not suave. A touch of narcissism might come into play with his desire to "save" El, but that's leaning into pathological altruism. He doesn't display himself as powerful, even after Soteria is removed. He's still soft-spoken and curled in on himself. Of course, we could argue that he's doing all this to manipulate El. Sure...but he never asks for anything in return even when it would be logical and understandable to do so. Getting El to remove Soteria would be like taking candy from a baby. All he'd have to do is say "If you take Soteria out, then I can help you escape. I can only help you if you take it out, though", and she'd do it. She's a lab-raised 8 year old. It would be a far safer gamble for him to flex his authority than to...what? Not mention it and hope she says something? Hope she chooses to do something? Okay. Hell, if we take the show at face value, no timelines or anything...Henry has already leveraged his authority with El before. "If you want to escape, you must do exactly as I say", he tells her in the chess scene...and then he just straight up never mentions Soteria. No matter how you slice it...that wasn't manipulation. It was altruism.

Daring-Impulsive: ❌ Henry does display risk-taking behaviors, but we need to apply context. He's been locked and abused in this lab for 20 years, El's been there for 8 years under similar conditions...there's no chance at escape for either of them unless someone takes a risk. Even so, it's not the type of risk that's associated with thrill-seeking. He's not doing it for the thrill, he's doing it to get out.

Callous-Unfeeling: ❌ It's a bit more difficult to say that it's not an act here because he's usually being watched by El, however...in the times when he's not being watched, he displays empathy, sympathy, and compassion, and those displays are paired with distinction emotional expressions. This is where the escape scene comes into play. Henry once again only attacks once he's cornered and in danger (not to mention that this time he has a dependent to worry about). His plan is to run. He's not inclined towards violence until he's left with no other choice, and when he does lash out he doesn't actually use his powers to kill until that final guard (who seemed to take great pleasure in the prospect of getting to shocked both him and El). He throws the other soldiers around, but he doesn't give them that menacing, sadistic look. That's reserved for that specific guard. It's sadism borne of a personal grudge due to prolonged mistreatment. It's revenge, not sadism for the sake of sadism.

Orderly Henry Creel, age 32, definitely has something going on up there (likely a whopping dose of cPTSD). He sure is a Guy in a Situation. However, he does not meet the criteria for psychopathy.

And now, my favorite and most controversial section:

Vecna-Henry (ages 32-38)

First and foremost: I need you all to read this with the understanding that I am explaining behaviors, not excusing them. Nothing that happened was right or justified, based on a normal person's frame of mind. However, in order to even come close to psychoanalyzing someone, you have to get inside their head. It's their thoughts and motivations that matter here, not what outsiders judge them to be. That's why it takes months of talking and testing to pin down diagnoses.

We need to be able to look at things from Henry's point of view and piece it together in his frame of mind. You feel me? Good.

I'm abandoning the checklist format for this section because it requires more nuance than just "yes" or "no", but I'm still going to list off some key traits about Vecna:

He chooses his victims carefully. Our 4 victims are not chosen willy-nilly. This isn't "I want to kill for fun", or we'd have Art the Clown instead. He personally kills exactly as many as he needs to open the Rifts, no more. He doesn't kill for killing's sake.

Each victim is chosen with a specific backstory in mind. I've spoken about this before, but if you know anything about serial killers it's that they're almost always going after victims that tie into their own trauma (i.e. killers with mommy issues going after women who look like their mothers, etc). Stranger Things, of course, is a touch more intricate. The order and specific stories of the victims tells a meta narrative. Chrissy and her horrible mother with the rotting food that's a direct link to the custom-made painting in the Creel dining room during the dinner scene. Fred and being a murderer, even though it was a negligent accident. Max and Billy, whose story is so complex and so inverse of Henry's that it fits perfectly with a song about swapping places to feel how the other feels. Again, a death outside of the victim's control, but this time tinged with the relief that an abuser had died after years of wishing for it to happen. Patrick and his abusive father, his abusive Papa, if you will. They tell us a story, just like almost every other serial killer. We know Virginia was a bad mother based on the situation Henry finds himself in at age 12, but we're never shown the extent of that conflict because we never see them interact. It wasn't physically possible for Henry to have killed Alice. How could Henry, who was near-fainting after having "killed" Virginia, find the strength to trance Victor and kill Alice? How could he do that, when we don't even see Vecna do that, when he's so much more powerful? He's not capable of multitasking. ST4 made that very clear. Thus, negligent death. Billy and Max vs the Creel murders are essentially just an inverse situation. Older abuser dies, the young victim wished for it to happen and is now Feeling Things about the situation. Lost a sibling in the process. And last but not least, Patrick, who shares a name with a lab guard in ST1 and has an abusive father. That's a Brenner link. It's a story by proxy. Vecna uses that shared trauma to connect with his victims. (That's the real deal: Shared Trauma). It's weaponized empathy.

He talks over and over again about honesty and ending suffering. Those are his two huge Things in his kills. He holds up a mirror to what the victim perceives to be the worst part of them, and then he turns around and all but tells them he'll make it end. After all...everyone is just waiting, waiting for it all to be over. He's got a fixation on making sure his victim knows that a) this was their fault, and b) he's being the Good Guy by relieving their suffering.

He has no reason left to pretend to have a Good Moral Justification for his kills, and yet he still talks to his victims like he's justifying their deaths.

That's...a lot, but let's dive right in.

Henry and his funky morality complex is endlessly fascinating to me, because what he seems to be doing is self-soothing about it all. Psychopaths, in contrast, are aware of moral compasses, of good and bad, but they aren't typically beholden to the concept. A psychopath likely wouldn't feel the need to self-soothe about their actions by telling themselves and others that they're doing what they're doing to relieve suffering...which is coincidentally exactly what Henry, as Vecna, does the whole time.

At this stage in the story, Henry would have no reason to keep up that kind of savior charade when his audience is just himself and his victim. There's no one there to manipulate by falsifying morality. The only other person listening is going to die imminently. The interesting part comes in when we understand that Henry doesn't have to play the angel at all in ST4. He's certain he's already succeeded by the time we realize what he's up to. He doesn't have anything to gain by lying about his perceived morality. Psychopaths, generally speaking, don't care enough to put the effort into lying if it isn't useful. That means that the last time he would have actually needed to play the angel was during his 1979 monologue. However, we see the same phrases about suffering and the associated release that we hear in 1979 continuing to return as far in as 1986, when Henry no longer has any reason to lie, even if he were okay with lying in the first place (which he's not)! They're all genuine lines. They're a core part of his character.

Vecna wants to be in the right, in the clear, morally. He can't accept that what he's doing is abusive; he has to frame it specifically so that he is doing what's right, that he's freeing people and solving problems.

He's doing his damndest to actualize his "predator, but for good" line from 1979.

This does not smack of psychopathy.

This smells like a savior complex.

Even as far back as 1979, Henry has been obsessed with saving things from their problems ("Tricked you? No. I saved you"). He "saves" spiders from the vents of his house and gives them new homes, he "saves" El from the lab's brainwashing, he "saves" the ST4 victims from their suffering...and dare I say it...he "saves" the lab children in 1979 from their suffering as part of Brenner's lab, the only true escape from which is death (And if it was a 2-birds-1-stone situation with absorbing abilities...well. That's just a bonus).

Granted, the morality surrounding the manifestation of Henry's savior complex has been warped by massive psychic alteration and 20 years of unimaginable abuse with no feasible escape, so yeah. It's a little fucked up. He's a little fucked up. Obviously.

However, at it's core: Everything Henry has ever done has (in his mind) been Right, Good, and Necessary, despite the fact that he's now actively doing more harm than good.

This reeks of pathological altruism.

Here's what that can look like, clinically:

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Well damn, doesn't that sound familiar? (I'm staring directly at Henry's spider hoarding versus the above image)

"Saving" spiders, but condemning them to death in jars after his kidnapping. "Saving" El from the lab, but traumatizing her and ultimately condemning her to his own fate: being the sole focus of Brenner's attention. "Saving" the ST4 victims from their suffering, but hurting them in an attempt to kill two birds with one stone: free himself, and eliminate their suffering as a nice morality bonus.

Pathological Altruism. Savior Complex.

Jamie himself has said that, based on what has been shown to us, Henry truly believes that what he's doing is right and beneficial (which fits with his Catholic-God coding (here) so well).

All this to say, and I cannot stress this enough: This is not psychopathy. What Henry displays is not psychopathy. This is pathological altruism. Psychopaths, particularly those who go on to commit violent crimes, largely do not have savior complexes. A psychopathic serial killer would not care, and would not hide that they don't care if there isn't anything to gain from it.

Henry also has this incredible fixation on truth and right vs wrong, and yes, he weaponizes that, but again he does so while self-soothing with padded morality phrasing. He monologues for ages about how terrible it is that everyone is lying to themselves and others, and how everyone is suffering but no one wants to admit it. His main goal is remaking the world with a "better" version of society that's less oppressive (which happens to be one where a rule-bound society is entirely done away with). Henry then swings way past "Good, Right, Necessary" into villain territory but going so far as to force his victims into facing the truth of what's going on inside their heads, forcing them to stop lying about their own mental states, only to then use the "worst" thing about themselves to judge them. He's quite literally playing God based on his use of right and wrong to maintain control/power while holding a moral high ground. (He's doing a pretty good job, too. He sounds just like the Catholic God.)

This is not psychopathic behavior.

His behavior seems more like black/white judgmental thinking:

A misguided and overwhelmingly strong sense of justice:

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and a killer superiority complex fueled by chronically low self-esteem:

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A psychopathic serial killer would have little attachment to truth or right and wrong.

A psychopathic serial killer would not care.

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The thing is: Henry's whole issue is that he cares entirely too much. His problem is that everything matters, everything can and should be sorted into good and evil, right and wrong (and obviously he is in the right here), save and destroy. It's judgement and warped justice and the need to believe he's special, that it all happened for a reason, that the world deserves to burn for what it did to people like him, that he can fix the world if he destroys it first.

This also happens to be why Henry cannot be considered a nihilist, which is another term I'm putting up on a shelf. Henry sees the world as inherently having value, that life has value, that there's something worth rebuilding (so long as he gets to dictate what the rules are...so long as he never gets hurt again). If he didn't care so much, he wouldn't be so damn upset about it all. He's a mess. He legitimately cares too much, the hurt is too deep.

That, in combination with the perspective warping from not only his absorptive quality but also 20 years of MKULTRA/Hawkins National Lab Fuckery, has created the mentality we see in ST4 and the actions it has manifested in (again, ignoring timelines).

Vecna is a violent, lab-made hypocrite with a touch of trauma-borne misanthropy, for sure, but he's not a psychopath.

tl; dr: Psychopathy is not synonymous with "villainous man disorder". Henry Creel is not a psychopath, though as it stands he is technically our villain.