#anti the punisher

[wanderingmind867]

Batman's villians are better than him. And I think that either says something about batman, or it says something about my personal taste. You know what, it probably says something about both. I hate dark, edgy characters. So naturally the violent but dark and boring types like batman don't appeal to me while the more fun and entertaining villains like Joker or Riddler or Two-Face do have an appeal. But also, Batman just isn't as good from an objective standpoint.

Batman sometimes kills just as many as his enemies, but we give him the pass because he's the good guy. And i think that says something about our society. That we can forgive violent people like batman or the punisher because "they're heroes" while condemning people like The Hulk and Two-Face because they're "monsters, villains, etc". And sure, maybe I'm accidentally reading too much into this. But i think I have a valid point here. To forgive some people for violence but then condemn others in the same breath shows the hypocrisy of us all.

[the-daily-dreamer]

So a lot of people have talked about the weird sexual punishment and embarrassment utilized against team green and I wanted to weigh in because I think it’s the perfect example of the hypocrisy of this show’s messaging.

Because on the surface, HOTD takes a very sex positive stance. They champion Rhaenyra for being very open with her sexuality and for being sexually liberated in a very conservative society. They act as if she is an impressive beacon of feminism for this. And that would be great…if it weren’t for the fact that this sex positive outlook lives and dies with Rhaenyra’s and team black’s sexual experiences only.

Outside of Rhaenyra’s perspective, sex scenes are often degrading, predatory, abusive, and meant to embarrass the character to others in universe and/or the audience.

Criston is seen saying no and trying to leave when being coerced into sex with Rhaenyra which she promptly ignores by kissing him and blocking the door. Then that sex he consistently has with Rhaenyra is used as a joke for how pathetic he is for not accepting her offer to be nothing more than a personal “whore”. And his consensual sex with Alicent is seen as hypocrisy but also interrupted by Helaena after blood and cheese so that he can be blamed for this atrocity because of his “immorality”.

Aemond is seen cuddling in the lap like a young child of the woman who raped him when he was young, then being served milk, and then walking out of the brothel naked. With the whole scene being painted uncomfortable and rather degenerate.

Aegon has a scene of him being a rapist to ensure he is known as a bad and evil man. And then he has a scene where he explicitly states how his genitalia have been damaged. As if his disability from his attack is embarrassing and disgusting.

Larys one of the few disabled characters in the show, has a fetish that surrounds his disability that he uses to degrade Alicent. Thereby making him seem disgusting and pathetic.

And of course. Alicent. Her first sexual encounter we see her have is her looking dead inside while being raped by her pedophilic husband, a scene that seems to have the connotation of deserved assault because “she asked for this” by “seducing” Viserys. She is fetishized for information and thus makes her seem degraded and gross. Her sex with Criston is interrupted by Helaena after blood and cheese so that she, too, is blamed for the atrocity of the murder of her grandchild because she was “immoral” for…having consensual sex with someone after her rapist husband finally dies.

Every scene that any team green character experiences is painted in a way that portrays them as disgusting, perverted, and immoral; or is painted in a way that is meant to humiliate these characters to others in and out of universe.

How is this sexually positive? How is this an appropriate way to portray your “villains”, by painting them negatively and embarrassing them through their sexual encounters?

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The worst part is that they’ve used these sexually degrading scenes specifically to “humble” a rape victim and child bride. Humbling her because they believe that she is power hungry and desperate for the throne and so she uses and betrays Viserys and Rhaenyra. And aside from that being a major mischaracterization (Alicent didn’t want the throne as a teenage girl forced to marry the king, and she doesn’t betray Viserys and Rhaenyra out of personal ambition but protection for her family), you know who that description fits? DAEMON TARGARYEN.

Daemon wanted the throne more than anything. Groomed his teenage niece to have a chance to marry her to get closer to the title of king. Betrayed, humiliated, and hurt his brother and niece wife to make himself a better candidate as heir. Choked his niece wife when she didn’t listen to him. And consistently asserted himself as king, a position to be viewed as higher than his wife the queen.

And similar to Alicent, he was “humbled” this season. But how was he humbled? By having private visions that are unknown to (almost) everyone. And these visions are mostly just him being shown the people he hurt in the process of seeking his power. Except for the one with his mother, which is sexually inclined, but not presented in the same depraved and humiliating way that the scenes with Alicent or any of team green are.

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This whole show just has such a gross way of depicting the people they see as villains. And it shows how hypocritical their messaging is. HOTD is not a feminist, sex positive show. It’s far too obsessed with sexual violence and humiliation against people they dislike to be one. This show believes that sexual positivity and liberty is good. But only for those who deserve it. That it’s not a right but rather a privilege. And anyone they deem as immoral, evil, bad, or “unfeminist” doesn’t deserve it. They deserve to be ridiculed, humiliated, and humbled by their failures as people. And I can’t stand it.

This show isn’t sex positive and feminist. It’s Rhaenyra positive. That’s it.

[thetimelordbatgirl]

JK Rowling last year: "I'll happily go to jail for my transphobia!"

Imane and France now to her:

[radicallycooljewishgirl]

[asgardswinter]

A thread of Jon Bernthal being a zionist and why all of you should stop supporting him.

Especially if you actually care about Palestinians and ur going around cancelling zionists like Noah Schnapp and Amy Schummer.

You can read my thread on my twitter page:

https://x.com/aquasuperbat/status/1769431729385648594?s=46

First of all, Jon Bernthal has liked tons of pro-Israel propaganda posts on twitter

He signed a letter to Biden in support of Israel like many other celebrities

He never signed the letter calling for a ceasefire. I think that says enough that he still holds zionist views.

He platformed an ex idf soldier on his podcast. Giving people who have killed Palestinians and committed Genocide a safe place.

Jon Bernthal’s sister in law (his brothers wife) is Sheryl Sandberg, a billionaire who runs multiple technology companies.

She has spread a lot of misinformation about Hamas. Shes very pro-israel

After all of this, hes stayed silent on the massacres that has occured in Gaza. Hes stayed silent as children have been bombed and are currently being starved. Over 40,000 innocent lives, mostly women and children have been taken, but he doesnt hesitate to stay silent.

If you care about this then you will stop supporting Jon even if he plays ur favourite character. I LOVED his ver of Frank Castle. But i cant stand by him with his complicit in genocide while i see innocent lives being taken.

In the past month he hasnt liked any pro-israel content, most likely because he saw the amount of support Palestinians are getting and that celebs r being outed. Or his team has told him to stop. I dont believe hes changed his views.

In 2022 he followed the official Israel account on twitter but has since unfollowed it.

If ur gonna continue supporting Jon then block me. U disgust me if you do and you cant go around cancelling celebs like Noah Schnapp because then ur just a hypocrite. If ur against zionism then ull stop being fans of every zionist celeb.

This isnt the only disgusting thing hes done, he platformed an abuser on his podcast. Giving people like them a safe place. Most of the ppl he has on his podcast r men, particularly ex cops and military. Hardly any women. Dude reeks of blue lives matter.

Update: 10/09/24

He had Sean Penn on his podcast. A known abuser who got a felony got domestic assault against Madonna when they were married. Jon calls him his hero in a clip on youtube. In that same clip Sean praises Jon for having Shia Labouf on his podcast, another violent woman abuser.

[lilithism1848]

[simplydnp]

totally normal about the 'wedding?' response continuing to evolve even though it's only been 5 shows. at this point i'm convinced the grand plan behind tit is to convince dan via exposure therapy that he's allowed to want to get married

[moonlightdancer26]

Seeing people who hate Snape say things like “Snape cared about no one but himself” as if Severus Snape wasn’t his own biggest hater is so amusing to me.

[gwandas]

The thing about the pregnancy reveal that pisses me off the most is that its real purpose at the end of the day was to dismiss Nesta’s completely justified anger.

She’s angry about the further stripping of her bodily autonomy. She says she understands they put her in the HOW to help her, but that the vote was out of “hatred and fear” of her (how those things can be simultaneous truths I have no idea but I digress).

Feyre barges into a conversation that has nothing to do with her, dismisses Nesta’s feelings, and that’s when Nesta decides to reveal how unknowingly hypocritical Feyre is in that moment. Because now, Feyre is devastated, Nesta’s anger is rendered irrelevant. Now, the focus is on how she cannot lash out even if she had every right to do so.

It’s a way for the narrative to put on a facade that Nesta’s anger is valid, while also brushing over it so the IC doesn’t have to face any consequences. The punishment during the hike serves a dual purpose—The book doesn’t have to address what the IC did to Nesta OR they did to Feyre.

[wanderingmind867]

I hate dark and gritty characters. Four characters in particular, whom I can't stand: Batman, Blade, The Punisher and Moon Knight.

Batman is too dark and edgy and all around boring. The Punisher is just a violent serial killer/vigilante. Blade is a monster hunter and Moon Knight is a monster hunter/mercenary, so they're automatically awful and violent. I do not approve of them. When I'm looking for heroes, I want something lighthearted that'll be fun. That's why I like all the 60s and some of the 70s stuff. And although I sometimes want to look into Marvel's monster comics like the Werewolf by Night, I tend to like those characters because they're monsters who are semi-heroic and don't seem liable to intentionally hurt anyone. They're more sympathetic. Whereas Batman and stuff is just boring. Just plain boring.

[washmchineheart]

the thing about the hike that will always make me get angry is that it wasn’t about feyre or even rhysand. it happened because cassian felt he had the right to punish nesta.

feyre says that rhysand had no right to threaten her sister and that she wants them back home and cassian says that would be her punishment and he gets to decide when they come back.

the only person who has the right to be mad at nesta is feyre and she isn’t. nesta didn’t commit a crime. she didn’t threaten anybody (unlike rhys who wanted to kill her). she didn’t even tell feyre to hurt her, she told her because of the parallels between their situations.

so why exactly are you punishing her, cassian? other than taking your anger on a person who was already reaching her breaking point and passing out from dehydration under your care? all while noticing her suicidal intentions and instead of taking her to a safe place, you didn’t even bother to pay her attention for hours?

it comes from a place of power. cassian has the power of punishing nesta so he does and it’s disgusting, especially when he is her endgame and she deserves so much better.

[moistrodent]

The way HH portrays oppression is honestly weird if not harmful, the only thing Heaven does is commit an annual genocide. That’s bad but actual oppressive regimes don’t act like that, it’s obviously written from the point of view of a rich person. The main character is a rich white woman. It’s about a rich white woman civilising the poor, the sex workers, the alcoholics, the violent.

Even redemption, it’s wallowing in pity. It’s not changing and bettering yourself. Angel Dust does not apologise for sexually harassing Husker instead it’s all of his actions being justified by the narrative. His punishment is sexual abuse. Yes he’s not a perfect victim, I’m not. I don’t think anyone is. But in the eyes of the narrative his actions that hurt people are okay because he’s been sexually abused.

Hazbin Hotel feels like there was little foresight for how honest to god awful the themes of the story are.

[katy-89]

Thank you Twitter katara fans for existing

[odinsblog]

There have already been more than 11,000 men, women and children—noncombatant civilian—Palestinians killed, and this is the pro-Israel reaction for just wanting a ceasefire??

You can call them zionists or whatever (and that would not necessarily be wrong), but for me, in sO many ways, they track as your garden variety, “the cruelty is the point,” hateful, racist, rightwing Republican.

[sihtryggr]

The more I think about it the more insane I find the Driftmark confrontation. Rhaenyra was at eye level and tending to Luke with her back turned toward Alicent (her back!! She was not facing Alicent! She had no idea Alicent was coming at them with a dagger until the last moment when Alicent had already crossed the room!!) when Alicent went after Luke with the catspaw dagger AND during that entire confrontation NOT ONCE does Alicent loosen her grip on the blade but instead continues to push against Rhaneyra with it in her hand. At one point the blades point is quite literally inches from Rhaneyra’s face and then she proceeds to slice Rhaenyra’s wrist open!! and zero punishment. Just nothing. Insane.

[wafflinglumos]

I walk out with a microphone and speak “Stripping away a female character’s traits and personality for a male character is wrong and is not a cool thing to do,” everyone cheers.

“Especially if the male character treated the female character like shit and wished death on her multiple times,” everyone cheers again.

“If the only way you can make your ship work is by completely desecrating one or both of the character’s personalities, maybe it’s not that good of a ship” everyone cheers and claps.

I say “Dramione” and get booed and thrown rotten tomatoes at.