#anti zutara stans

[queen-morgana91]

live zuko and aang reaction to the ass takes about them in atla fandom

[katy-89]

Nothing to say here....

[kidcaroline]

🙏

[katerina-q]

Sorry but I can't take seriously Zuko/Zutara stans complaining about "Zuko the colonizer" posts when many of you are literally calling a 12 year old Aang ( a pacifist monk and a genocide survivor) rapist, incel, abuser, selfish and misogynist.

There is a whole anti aang tag here on tumblr of Zutara shippers saying the most horrible shit about him, all because your ship is not canon (yes that's the real and only reason)

You have no fucking right to talk.

[garussy]

One thing I am SICK of is atla fans especially z*tara fans making Zuko the cool tough bad boy and Katara being the sweet innocent nerd

NO

Katara is the cool smart bad girl who probably knows how to ride a motorcycle and Aang is her cute pacifist boyfriend

[prisi]

"Katara is just a trophy for Aang" and then they say that Zuko deserved Katara because he redeemed himself.

They're not complaining because they think Katara is treated like a trophy (which she's not btw), they're complaining because she's not Zuko's trophy.

[dukeofdelirium]

????? creepy…? Aang didn’t view Katara as a mother or mother figure within his life, lol. Like, ever. Show me when and where Aang ever thought of her in this way?

Y’all are invalidating the love Aang had for his father Gyatso who actually raised him from the time he was a baby. Aang viewed Gyatso as his parent. He loved Gyatso as his parent. He proudly states to Katara and Sokka that Gyatso “taught me everything I know.” Stop erasing Aang’s bond with his actual parental figure in canon. Aang’s love for Gyatso and grief over losing him is what everything else in the story revolves around. The disrespect you idiots show to this relationship is ridiculous. We need to start gatekeeping this show I’m so serious

The first thing Aang did when he met Katara was to ask her to go play with him as the children they are. He then reminded her that she was still a child, too. Aang always viewed Katara as his peer and equal, his best friend—NEVER his parent.

If Aang viewed Katara as his parent, that means he would view her as having authority over him. Which he doesn’t. That also means he would expect her to care for him, which he very much doesn’t.

In fact, the exact opposite is depicted. Aang actually canonically struggles with and rejects Katara’s affections toward him, multiple times. It is portrayed as difficult for him to allow her to show him love, something he has to get over as the show continues. Aang never asks Katara for anything, and he doesn’t expect her to do things for him. She does all of these things of her own free will. Katara also hates that Toph views her as motherly. The only time Katara even speaks on this is when she is arguing with Sokka and Toph. Guess who isn’t a part of this in regards to viewing Katara as motherly? Aang. He doesn’t speak on any of this and the episode doesn’t focus on his and Katara’s relationship because they don’t treat one another the way Katara treats Toph and Sokka. The only time Katara ever acts “motherly” toward Aang is in that very episode, and it’s played for laughs… because she isn’t his mom lol

Also, the EIP episode wasn’t “insane” 😂 and it definitely wasn’t proof that Katara didn’t love Aang. If anything, she’s verbally affirming she does love him romantically. She just set a boundary, because she was afraid he might die and she would be unable to revive him like she had in the book 2 finale. It’s really not that difficult to understand…

Also.. if Aang getting broken out of the ice is a metaphor for …. Childbirth…. Then did Katara birth Appa too ? 😭😂 help it’s sending me

[mesapies]

This is what most of the anti aang discourse looks like to me

[blastaway2004]

These Anti-Aang Zutara Southern Raider Fics Are Too Funny!

I love transparently this person hates Aang and tries to paint him in the worst way possible.

We got another “Zuko’s the only one who understands Katara”, it’s not like Aang didn’t lose his whole nation, but hey he likes to fun, characters who grieve have to be one-notes who feel nothing but sadness.

It’s like a bad-take Zutara bingo “Aang idealizes Katara”, if he did, won’t he always agree with whatever she wanted? Disagreeing with someone you care about means you DON’T idealize them.

I like how they bring up “Aang is a child” like that’s an insult. HOW DARE YOU CALL A 12 YEAR OLD A CHILD! Also Zuko being calm in this situation is surreal to me, like he’s the most quick to anger of The Gaang.

People who whine and exaggerate about Aang mentioning his culture belong in the same tier of doofus as the people who whine and exaggerate about Katara mentioning her mom, y’all are stupid. Also Katara is giving Angry Tyra Banks energy.

Aang cheered for Katara as she beat the misogynistic out of Pakku, he helped her commit eco-terorism, he didn’t react negatively when he saw her bloodbend and actively comforted her. I guarantee these folks never watched this show and just looked up fan-art on Devaintart.

RIGHT… Aang totally got over his people. It’s not like he had to live with genocide and survivors guilt. Honestly this don’t even feel like Katara, it’s a blatant self-insert that wants to yell at Aang, make him cry and make out with Zuko.

Aang literally wanted Zuko to join them. At this point Aang and Zuzu were best buds. He probably shoot fire at the weirdo who wrote this.

But in serious this fic was great, genuinely one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long-time. Right up there with My Immortal, Trapped in an Island with Josh Hucherson, or any one of those One Direction fanfics. -1000 out of 10.

Would read again.

[blackbullet99]

Debunking The Stupidest Pro-Zutara Claims.

Howdy y’all.

If you follow me, you know I’m a Kataang truther and a Zutara hater. I always thought Kataang was cute as a kid, but I honestly didn’t appreciate how mutual and well developed their relationship more until I was older. By contrast, I didn’t think much of Zutara initially, I knew it had a huge following and I kinda got why, they have a very interesting dynamic that drastically changes and them becoming friends is heartwarming, but I never got the hype. Then I saw this…

And I was utterly baffled at the mischaracterization, media-illiteracy, Zuko dickriding and Aang demonization on this post. Let’s have a look…

See what I mean about the Zuko dickriding and Aang demonizing. You compare one scene of Zuko making tea for everyone in Book 3, to Aang showing off in Book 1. Need I mention that Aang later apologized for getting big-headed by the end, and later episodes show that Aang (and the rest of the group) all work together. Right off the bat and we get this dumb Katara/Cinderella narrative.

Not another Dadko. Momtara I kind of get, but Zuko is not a father figure. Zuko himself is still young, still growing, still capable of being immature. The first moment isn’t even a parental thing, it’s more Zuko stopping Katara from confronting Aang because he somewhat understands Aang’s frustration of being unsure and conflicting about a huge decision, because he’s been there not long ago.

Comforting someone when they’re worried or grieving isn’t parental responsibility, that’s being empathetic and good friend. Katara comforts Zuko when he’s worried about comforting Iroh and these people lap that scene up.

“Aang acts like Katara’s son” is such a baseless argument. Ignoring the fact that Aang canonically has romantic feelings for Katara and vise-verse, the first moment was a one-off joke about Katara being motherly, the second was also a joke where Katara PRETENDS to be Aang’s mom and her brother’s husband, the last moment is Katara telling Toph how she TRAINS Aang because she’s his Sifu and so it Toph, does that mean Toph is also Aang’s mom?

Let’s go over this for the umpteenth time: Aang kissing Katara was wrong, it was bad, we should’ve seen him apologize, but he immediately regretted what he did, he knew he messed up, he’s not a sexual-assaulter, blah, blah blah. The problem with this is that these are both completely different situations and also Zuko had to be told to get off Katara, so not only is this point meaningless, but it doesn’t even support Zutara.

This has gotta be one of the dumbest arguments here, Aang has always seen Katara as an ally and dear friend first and foremost since day one. Admittedly Aang was somewhat possessive here, but him nodding mean he literally though Katara was his possession, more so him thinking Katara returned his feelings (which she did). But throughout the entirety of the show Aang sees Katara as not only an ally, but a friend, a fellow waterbender, Zuko only saw her as a friend and ally near the very end of the show, before that he simply saw her as a peasant in the way of his goal.

Again, both of these are completely different contexts and both Aang and Zuko were pretty adamant about how Katara feels about them. Zuko frustratingly confronts Katara about why she’s mad it him, he wants to earn to trust and sleep deprives himself so he can resolve this as soon as she wakes up. Katara asks why Aang is so crestfallen, he explains part of the reason, Aang (while being somewhat pushy) wants to know how Katara feels before he confronts Ozai in life or death.

Both are different situations and really I wouldn’t say either is better than the other.

Okay, there’s a lot wrong with these points, lemme go over them as best as I can.

Aang has put his needs over Katara’s several times, just to name three: he gave himself so the Fire Nation would spare her home, was willing to forgo his own Waterbending because Pakku wouldn’t train her, willingly put aside mastering the Avatar State because SHE WAS IN DANGER!

Aang understands the importance of Katara’s family, he leaves so as to to come between Katara and her family when she threatens to leave, he brings back her necklace knowing how much it means to her.

In both of mentioned Aang instances, he realized he was wrong and he and Katara reconciled, the first instance was out of a misguided attempt to set things right after he was killed, and the former is something Aang would never do again, in a later episode he actively takes Sokka to his father and Aang is content for he and Katara to go their separate ways for a while. I find it utterly hypocritical to be a Zuko dickrider while bashing Aang for mistakes he regrets, apologizes for and learns from, you know who else does that?

Once again, THE CONTEXT! In the first scene Katara mentions her mother’s death in a more matter of fact way to explain to Aang that the Fire Nation have killed a lot of people including his own. Aang however in a state of denial dismissed the idea of his own people being killed. In the second scene Katara lashes out at Zuko for all the trouble he caused and Zuko after going through some development prior empathizes with her in a way to get Katara to understand he means no harm.

Aang also empathized with Katara’s loss. In this same episode, he himself says he knows what it’s like to feel the pain and rage Katara feels, specifically when he found out all his people were dead and encouraged Katara to confront the person who caused said pain.

I REALLY HATE making a Katara centric episode about shipping, I really do, many people say Zuko was right Aang was wrong, or Aang was right Zuko was wrong. Neither side was entirely right or entirely wrong.

Zuko was right to take Katara to confront Yon-Rha and this was when he truly began to understand what Katara had been through and see her as an individual, while Katara comes to see Zuko as a friend and forgive him, however he had no idea what Katara was going to do and didn’t think of toll this would take on Katara if she did end up choosing violence.

Meanwhile Aang not agreeing with Katara and confronting her isn’t a bad thing, he understands just what it’s like to lose someone close to you and to feel unbridled rage and hate, he’s been there, he also knows Katara isn’t cold-hearted and she could come to regret seeking violence. He actively encourages Katara to face Yon-Rha without killing him, which she does and as Zuko says he was right about what Katara needed. But as Katara points out she didn’t forgive Yon-Rha, forgiveness wasn’t the right choice, and you know what, this is something Aang accepts.

These points in particular really highlight the stupidity and hypocrisy of the OP. For one, as we can literally see Aang ignored his training specifically because Katara was in danger and he wanted to save her, this is no different from Zuko sacrificing himself to save Katara, in fact Aang has put his life on the line for Katara multiple times. Furthermore OP gets on Aang’s case for leaving Katara to fulfill his duties in the Book 3 premiere, but then praises Zuko for leaving Mai to fulfill his duties. They’re literally praising Zuko for doing the same stuff Aang’s doing and whining about Aang whether he chose to ignore his duties to be with Katara or if he leaves Katara to fulfill his duties, you can’t win!

Okay, screw this guy, this has nothing to do with the Zuko saving Katara, OP just wanted to bitch about Aang not wanting to kill Ozai as if this supposedly makes him selfish even though Aang is literally facing Ozai to save the world and is simply trying to find a peaceful solution, it’s like the theme of this show was lost on this dude.

This was the creep who made weird comments about Katara’s appearance wasn’t it.

I really don’t get what this final point is trying to prove. The first scene is Katara happy that Zuko is alive, the second is Katara happily gazing at Aang, who never at any point tried to change Katara, at all. Point me to one scene, one moment. If this is about how Katara looks, she doesn’t look that different, at the very least, her eyes are slightly bigger in the second pic because she close to someone she loves, but even then it’s a lot of whining from this guy about nothing.

Case in point, this is when I realized Anti-Kataang Zutara shippers have are media-illiterate morons with not a single good take, fake-fans who only care about mischaracterization for the sake of a mid middle-school ship.

Maybe I should make a counter post about what Katara gains from Kataang.

[icedsodapop]

If you could trace 2 circles, one labeled "Zutara shippers" and another labeled "ATLA viewers who hate Bryke", I swear to god it'd almost be one complete circle 🤡

[queen-morgana91]

They way certain people here want Katara to be a woman with no agency over her life and marriage, miserable, unhappy, abused and used as an incubator by the evil monk Aang....so sad.

She's a hero, powerful, the master of water bending, in love and happy :) And she’s loved and respected by Aang

If she was unhappy with Aang, she would have dropped his ass in 0.5 seconds. Yes the real Katara can do that, unlike your cinderella self insert

You all reducing one of the strongest, most interesting, and dynamically written characters in the show to misogynistic tropes and theories just because you don't like the boy she ended up with. You are literally making up things to be mad about. This is hilarious

Well you can stay mad forever lol

[katy-89]

save me characters who are still hated and mischaracterized in 2024 for the sake of a fanon ship save meeeee

[kidcaroline]

Zuko and Zutara's STANS need to be humbled because it's getting boring

Glad that atla Twitter is waking up -_-

[katerina-q]

The dumb mischaracterization to make a dumb crack ship look better strikes again

Oh sure, killing someone out of anger is EXACTLY what Katara needed. I mean, this is the same empathetic girl who was traumatized that she used bloodbending, but who cares? OC Katara is better

Also ZUKO HIMSELF agreed with Aang in the southern raiders episode ( i know what's the point of this post) because Aang and Sokka knew her well, but who cares? Muh zutara is better

Angry vengeful murderer Katara is the real Katara it seems

Oh look, the canon series

Oh look, the canon series

Some of you should just stop talking about these characters, this is so painful

[starlight-bread-blog]

Some people suggest that Katara became a trophy wife to Aang in TLoK. In my opinion the writing of the Gaang in TLok isn't very good, (and I'll discuss this later), but this critisism is not it. In her introduction, Katara is refered to as "Master Katara", she's a high ranking member of the White Lotus - and her most highlighted relationship is with Korra. She is the one who helps her recover from Zaheer, and she is the one who advises that she should meet Tenzin. Her relationship with Aang is very rarely the focus. Katara is not a trophy wife, nor is she reduced to Aang's partner.

This isn't to say that the writing in TLoK is perfect, I can name 5 issues from the top of my head.

She doesn't have a statue as she deserves.

She wasn't present during the bloodbending trial.

Katara is the only living Gaang member without a fight scene.

She wasn't present during her own grandaughter airbending ceremony.

When her children discussed their flawed childhood, we never heard of Katara's parenting and perspective.

But as you can see, none of these issues can be fixed by Katara not ending up with Aang or ending up with a different character. None of this issues suggest that Katara is living in specifically Aang's shadow.

Heck, even if Katara was a trophy wife (which she isn't), that wouldn't be a problem with Kataang, it would be a problem with TLoK. Compare this (hypothetical) situation to the very not hypothetical situation of the comics. Many if not all of the characters act incredibly out of character (if I remember correctly, but for argument's sake let's say that they are). Aang promises to kill Zuko if he ever becomes like his father. That is out of character. He couldn't kill a genocidal dictator because of his cultural values. It was very powerful in the original. So what, does that mean that Aang has given up on preserving his nearly dead culture, and that we should hold him accountable for it? Of course not. He's being out of character. His promise is a comics problem, not an Aang problem.

This is the same with Kataang in TLoK. It wouldn't be a Kataang problem, it'd be a TLoK problem. Because in A:TLA, Katara is anything but a trophy wife. She is the narrator, the central character of many episodes, a master waterbender, a teacher, a healer - she is the hero alongside Aang. If you cannot link Katara being a trophy wife to A:TLA, you should take no issue with A:TLA. Katara hypothetically being a trophy wife has nothing to do with the original cartoon. Again, it wouldn't be a Kataang problem, it'd be a TLoK problem.

But then again, Katara isn't a trophy wife to begin with.