#anti zutara fandom

[dukeofdelirium]

Aang/Kataang haters be like “Katara deserved so much better than a SHORT BALD CHILDDDDD REEEEE” yall are so miserable I swear. touch grass. Katara and Aang were both kids and were peers. Katara also never gave a damn that Aang shaved his head lmao it’s literally part of his culture. please show me when and where she ever made a comment about disliking how he looked? cuz it never happened. Katara loved Aang and wanted to have a relationship with him. She wanted to marry one day and have children and that’s exactly what they did! Get over it already

I will legit never understand the hatred for this pairing it actually makes no sense lol. They’re so sweet and wholesome. They’re like the most innocent ship you could possibly ship. They’re childhood best friends who end up in a lifelong relationship and they both love each other so much. Literally what is there to hate?

I swear the antis hate this ship based PURELY on how Aang looks. They don’t find Aang conventionally attractive or as fitting what they THINK a male love interest should look like so they hate his character and this pairing. He’s not masculine enough, he’s not attractive enough, he’s too short, he’s too feminine, he doesn’t have emo hair etc.

look how fucking cute they are 😭😭😭 they’ve never ever deserved the hate and you know what?! I LIKE THE FACT AANG IS SHORTER! IT’S FUCKING CUTE!!!! IT MAKES IT CUTER! SUE ME 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[mal3vol3nt]

mai: *was the reason behind zuko’s biggest smiles in the series, was told by him that he finds her attitude beautiful, and sacrificed herself and betrayed her nation to save him from boiling alive after he dumped her via letter*

zutaras: mai is so rude and toxic to zuko! she clearly doesn’t love him

katara: *canonically was okay with leaving zuko to freeze during the seige of the north, told him to go jump in a river, kicked his ass multiple times, associated his face with the thought of the enemy, full on threatened his life if he made one wrong move at aang, and was the very last one to tolerate him*

zutaras: clearly katara would never be mean to zuko like mai! she loves him <3

[soosth]

"ANTI AANG TAKES" BINGO CARD + Fanfic ver

Well. The ultimate "Anti aang" Takes on a bingo card, go to the tag, see how much can be crossed out

Here's a fanfic version, though I don't have much experience in that section -

Yeahh...

[survivalove]

blah blah something something about how fandom gravitate towards more individualistic characters because they’re easier to understand compared to community-oriented characters whose character development is very much tied to their culture/nation because understanding a single character is easier to understand than a character AND an entire culture, especially when said culture is based off a marginalized community that exists in real life 🫠 and said fandom is majority WHITE.

[leantailean]

I almost WANT zutara to become a canon in NATLA. in a show that completely destroyed Katara's character, and turned Zuko, a complex and tragic character, into a pale and boring version of a poor, offended boy. Kataang really has nothing to lose if it is not going to be a canon in this dull school play with bad costumes and makeup, Katara with her real character chose Aang, and nothing will change that (just like the canon well-written Zuko chose Mai). if zutara will happen in NATLA, and the zutarians accept it, it would really finally demonstrate to everyone how they treat the real Zuko and the real Katara and how they actually "respect" their characters

[vlackevil]

GOOD NEWS, ONE OF WRITERS OF ATLA CONFRIMS ZUTARA IS TOXIC, ZUKO IS A BAD INFLUENCE FOR KATARA:

There is the writer

And Dante Basco talk about when Katara say Zuko end his life if hurt Aang

HE SAY IT!!!

And Janet and Dante agree that.

[loveontherocks]

clownery transcends decades…

[tachiha3]

ZKs really be treating Zuko like Man Lite™ or Diet male™ or pseudo male™ or whatever you wanna call it.

"Aang, being male, is inherently complicit in patriarchy.... Not Zuko tho cuz.. hehe"

"Hakoda and Sokka are likely to dismiss Katara being SAed cause they're men... Not Zuko though cuz.. hehe"

[dattuff]

After watching all of ATLA how can someone come to the conclusion that kataras arc should end with katara getting with the person directly responsible of her oppression 🤦🏽‍♂️

[coconutsaiyan]

From twitter but this is 100% accurate

[dukeofdelirium]

????? creepy…? Aang didn’t view Katara as a mother or mother figure within his life, lol. Like, ever. Show me when and where Aang ever thought of her in this way?

Y’all are invalidating the love Aang had for his father Gyatso who actually raised him from the time he was a baby. Aang viewed Gyatso as his parent. He loved Gyatso as his parent. He proudly states to Katara and Sokka that Gyatso “taught me everything I know.” Stop erasing Aang’s bond with his actual parental figure in canon. Aang’s love for Gyatso and grief over losing him is what everything else in the story revolves around. The disrespect you idiots show to this relationship is ridiculous. We need to start gatekeeping this show I’m so serious

The first thing Aang did when he met Katara was to ask her to go play with him as the children they are. He then reminded her that she was still a child, too. Aang always viewed Katara as his peer and equal, his best friend—NEVER his parent.

If Aang viewed Katara as his parent, that means he would view her as having authority over him. Which he doesn’t. That also means he would expect her to care for him, which he very much doesn’t.

In fact, the exact opposite is depicted. Aang actually canonically struggles with and rejects Katara’s affections toward him, multiple times. It is portrayed as difficult for him to allow her to show him love, something he has to get over as the show continues. Aang never asks Katara for anything, and he doesn’t expect her to do things for him. She does all of these things of her own free will. Katara also hates that Toph views her as motherly. The only time Katara even speaks on this is when she is arguing with Sokka and Toph. Guess who isn’t a part of this in regards to viewing Katara as motherly? Aang. He doesn’t speak on any of this and the episode doesn’t focus on his and Katara’s relationship because they don’t treat one another the way Katara treats Toph and Sokka. The only time Katara ever acts “motherly” toward Aang is in that very episode, and it’s played for laughs… because she isn’t his mom lol

Also, the EIP episode wasn’t “insane” 😂 and it definitely wasn’t proof that Katara didn’t love Aang. If anything, she’s verbally affirming she does love him romantically. She just set a boundary, because she was afraid he might die and she would be unable to revive him like she had in the book 2 finale. It’s really not that difficult to understand…

Also.. if Aang getting broken out of the ice is a metaphor for …. Childbirth…. Then did Katara birth Appa too ? 😭😂 help it’s sending me

[mal3vol3nt]

zutaras hating aang so much is so ridiculous but also makes sense considering that what aang has with katara and zuko is what they wish their favs had together

like canonically aang helped zuko rebuild the fire nation by acting as a symbol of life and fun and love. he was the only one who knew of the kind of spark the fire nation had before it was fluffed out by sozin, and he made it his mission to bring it back step by step. zuko and aang became lifelong best friends and were each other’s rock. they understood each other in a way no one else could and had the basis of their enemies-to-friends arc engraved into the very structure of the show. their entire relationship is the show and zutaras want that so badly for themselves that they insert katara into aang’s role

and canonically aang and katara’s love is built up throughout the show. their love is symbolized in the legend of oma and shu, and tui and la. katara believed in the avatar before she met aang, but believed in aang before she knew he was the avatar. they were each other’s shields and motivations in surviving the war. they were two genocide survivors finding solace in one another but being horrified of losing the other. their kiss at the end was an acknowledgment of their budding feelings that the show had been hinting at and building up. but zutaras hate the canonical symbolism of katara x aang so they insert zuko into aang’s role

they hate aang so much because he is everything they want zuko and katara to be

[soosth]

AANG ＆ OZAI PARALLELS: DEBUNKED

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Because apparently the true villain is the sole survivor of a genocide of his entire nation, and not the imperialist colonizer.

Where do I even begin?? Because I’m genuinely holding in laughter writing this, it’s absolutely insane how certain people can make such egregious parallels that aren’t even found in the first place. 

AH, so a little backstory on how this fucking shit stained idea even came to existence, well our dear z^tara fans pissed their pants over Zuko and Katara not tying the knot, so, as a way of retribution for their supposed “honour” They take any chance to jump on the Aang hate train and make him into some irredeemable abusive demon, aaand they got that perfect opportunity because the LoK decided to take a lick out of the great “Main Characters Must Be Bad Parents In The Sequels” Trope. Which personally, does absolutely nothing to the protagonists resolution aside from cheap family drama but I digress. 

Now, I’m not behind the idea of the writers trying to make Aang a “flawed” Parent, I think it really makes no sense by how they went about it, (I might touch on this in another post) 

((And it’s so very clear that they’re trying to give it a soft “retcon” And even taking extra steps saying that Kya and Bumi just “remember wrong” Which I’ll actually take, because season two of LOK was hell on earth anyway so you might as well give it some saving grace.)) 

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There’s three main parallels that they got from Ozai and Aang: (god help me)

Favouring a child

isolating the rest

leaving pressure On the golden child

I’m going to debunk all three of them while trying not to fall into complete lunacy over how ridiculous they are. 

Favouring a child + Leaving pressure: 

OK, so people are clearly blind with context clues and media comprehension, got it. No surprise whatsoever. I can’t be disappointed if I didn’t even have any expectations to begin with. 

Let’s compare the treatment on how Ozai treats Azula, and how Aang treats Tenzin. (Holy Shit)

Beginning with Ozai, well.. It doesn’t take much of a rocket scientist to understand that Ozai essentially could not give two fucks about Azula, as she in essence, serves the role of an attack dog, as long as it does its job, it’s worthy. 

Ozai favoured Azula because she was molded to match his ferocity and hunger for power, she was a prodigy bender, and was cunning and calculated, all traits that Ozai found endearing and someone worthy to be crowned the next “fire lord.” His “favouring” Of her didn’t come out of genuine love or care, she is his tool who serves a purpose. In short, she showed more competency and more ruthlessness and callousness in comparison to Zuko. Which earned her, her place as the “Golden Child.”  

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None of this is even remotely similar to how Aang treated Tenzin and his kids, aside from the fact he supposedly “favoured” Tenzin more, but that is such a baseline statement and has absolutely no relation with Ozai's reasons.

You have to understand that an entire FUCKING NATION IS DEAD. History, Culture, Tradition, is at the BRINK of being wiped out, Tenzin is quite literally the only Airbender that will be left after Aangs passing. Why do people devalue this concept so much? 

“B-BUT THE AIR ACOLYTES1!!” Still have limited knowledge, airbending is so heavily tied to its spiritual roots, you LOSE your ability to AIRBEND, if you aren't inclined to your spiritual side. Which is a core part of the air nomad culture. Tenzin is... Literally the only god forsaken part left of that, so yeah. It’s a pretty big fucking deal. Aang values his culture and teachings to such a high degree, he is literally the survivor of a genocide. His favouring of Tenzin was done out of necessity and love, not out of a need for power and a new attack dog to send orders around. 

Tenzin will literally be the future “Director” Or guide for the next avatar to learn airbending, people still forget this, and it’s hilarious. He needs to know all the moves, all the teachings because he will be the next avatar's personal guide. 

Aang constantly reassures him, and apologizes for the pressure that may be put upon him but he always reaffirms that he’ll be there to guide him and they’ll “learn together”

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So yeah not the same thing at all. Fuck you for being so inept at understanding the different reasons and perspectives of those situations, just for some petty ship discourse, genuinely disgusting.

Isolating the children:

OK this part, I have to say that the writers definitely messed up with aangs characterization, but I think the execution came out way differently than the intention, so I will try to look more into the intention of each decision.

Ozai isolated Zuko, mistreated him, belittled him, PHYSICALLY ABUSED HIM, but yeah totally on par with Aang actually. 

I don’t wanna touch on this part much mainly because his treatment was literally explained all throughout the show, and granted, while I understand most of these people haven’t touched the show aside from reading fanfic 300000 Where Aang is revealed to us as satan himself, but perhaps, even a small peak at Ozai's parenting would reveal the laughable contrast between the two.

Zuko was a slow learner, and much more of a softie, and a “mama's boy” To Ozai’s heavy dislike, he was thus treated as such, he was belittled, turned down, and literally burnt alive for showing “weakness” He is meant to serve as a direct contrast to Azula, ”The everything he isn't.” 

Kya and Bumi on the other hand, don’t show any actual signs of trauma aside from some petty jabs they threw at Tenzin, 

Bumis talk with Aang at the statue was *very very* Clearly, meant to highlight his own inferiority complex that he internalized growing up. His need for proving himself to be capable of doing just as much if not more than a “bender” Probably happened because his two parents were both prodigy benders and him being a first born son who was a non-bender must’ve hit pretty hard for him, and I’m so sure that katara and Aang reassured how special he is but that kind of thing doesn’t really go away.

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Kya: [while healing Bumi] I told you those rocks were slippery. You're lucky you didn't kill yourself.

Bumi: You done with the lecture, mom?

Kya: Oh, grow up. You haven't changed one bit since we were kids. You're still trying to prove you can do everything a bender can. Well, you can't. Deal with it.

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 That talk with Aangs statue was very much meant to unveil an internal struggle rather than a conflict he had with his father. Kya even doubles down on this, telling him “of course he’d be proud of you” Basically spoon feeding to us, the viewers, that this is much more of internal than an external conflict that he has to overcome along the show. 

“Why Didn’t he share his culture with them 1!!1!” 

He most definitely did, or tried to, but it’s clear they didn’t show much interest so he didn’t pester, this is shown many times throughout the show. 

“You know I could never keep all those gurus straight… There were like a million of them!

remember that long boring story about the guy who never ate?”

This is literally Kya’s remark to Tenzin just after he tried teaching the airbender students this story, basically telling us that Aang DID try to tell them about his stories and culture, but much to their disinterest, didn’t try any further. 

And Bumi, literally could not pay attention to the story to save his life, and instead decided to fool around in his literal 60’s!! I mean Imagine what he was like when he was a kid!! 

I could imagine their dynamic was very similar to Jinora with Meelo and Ikki, Tenzin being the only one with actual interest and care, whilst Bumi and Kya goofing off and not putting much focus onto it. WHICH IS FINE BTW!! 

It only goes to reiterate that Tenzin was the only one who was actually giving interest and attention to the air nomad culture, and it was of Kya and Bumi’s own personal choice to not partake in it. To each their own I see. 

“BUT WHAT ABOUT THE VACATIONS” 

This.. I agree, weird for the writers to decide this, but given how they low-key are retconning it in interviews, my best guess is that each of those trips were side-quests during their journey to teach an important lesson that might’ve just drowned out because Tenzin may not have remembered it as well. 

Also keep in mind that Tenzin was put into a lot of pressure, Aang probably saw this, and as a way to still keep it enjoyable, he took him to trips that would help ease the mind for a little kid whilst also learning something valuable. That seems pretty on brand for Aang actually

And given that Kya and Bumi are literally in their fucking 60’s it wouldn’t surprised me if they didn’t have the greatest memory. Hell, they didn’t even fault Aang as a parent until Tenzin started boasting about “trips” That Kya and Bumi gave petty jabs but weren’t actually showing genuine hurt, just annoyance.

Kya even comments how Aang was too busy “Trying to save the world, and doing his duty that he didn't have much time for them” 

Phrasing as if it wasn't anything "important" But it's clear that this was Kya's own personal irritation towards Tenzin rather than an actual evaluation on Aang's duties.

A continuation comic best explains it in a deeper way:

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Literally showing that “neglecting” His kids wasn't up to him, and was out of a sense of necessity, trying to cram as much knowledge onto Tenzin, the only one who was basically putting his lessons into practices. Kya and Bumi were left feeling neglected. But that wasn’t out of his decision; he still loved them dearly.

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This. Literally highlighting how much pressure was forced upon Aang, so yes, as any person would, he struggled with making time for everybody. Holy shit who knew?? 

GASP!! IS THAT… A REALISTIC BUT UNDERSTANDABLE FLAW!!?? HOW DARE YOU! ITS OZAI #2 

The fact that the smiley energetic person forgets to SMILE, is a big deal, man was put through hells amount of stress but he never cracked.

So tell me, how is a genocidal freak, who treats his golden child like a tool and abuses the other both physically and emotionally for showing “weakness’ 

Even remotely comparable to

 the sole survivor of a genocide, trying to withhold his teachings and culture onto literally his only child that showed actual effort in doing so, while also maintaining the balance of an entire fucking world and being literally the biggest “advisor” And “Mentor” For society, OH! And also building and managing a literal city, but along the way struggling to make time for his children. 

Guess what, they’re not. And if you think they are. You are an idiot, with bias and headcanons.

So the conclusion is, Aang is a flawed parent, but he isn't a "bad" Parent - confirmed by the literal writers.

Comparing him to Ozai a literal dictator, is absolutely sickening, just for your petty shipping discourse when this show's been over for a decade is insane. Indulge in what you enjoy, but stop projecting delusions like they're canon.

:D

[survivalove]

I just got reminded of the craziest thing and I had to share it

but basically oomf showed me some post where a zk said sokka would brag about his brother-in-law being the firelord and i was like???

why would sokka brag about his sister marrying into the people that tried to wipe out their tribe ☠️ got their mother k***ed? not to mention it’s canon that sokka brags about aang being the avatar.

then it slowly started to hit me: most of the zk headcanons i unfortunately come across is just things that already relate to aang in canon. even things that don’t make sense when it comes to zuko.

another example is their imaginary children’s names: why the hell would one of their children’s names be bumi???? ☠️ and even when they try to be creative, they go naming their children after zuko’s ancestors, you know, the ones that tried to have katara k***ed? like huh??

third, they always try to copy the kataango or say zuko would’ve blown up that factory in the painted lady…. how do you say kataang sucks because aang is a horrible person and then give your ships all the kataang scenes, particularly things AANG does?? using the AVATAR’s love theme for your edits?? just a bunch of leeches

next, sometimes i look for kataang fanart and i’ll see something with appa or momo and think it’s kataang AND THEN IT’S ACTUALLY ZK ☠️ why the hell is anyone drawing fanart with momo or appa that has nothing to do with aang??? much worse when you don’t even like him??? make it make sense?!

lastly, i haven’t actually seen this but apparently they even started giving ole boy tattoos on his chi lines?? just like aang’s???

like i’m sorry if aang’s such a horrible person, why are they so obsessed with him? where is the creativity? they’re lowkey hijacking things that belong to aang/kataang and then when you go searching for this stuff that WACK ship comes up. it’s pathetic.

[awakefor48hours]

I sometimes can’t believe we live on the timeline in which the same person who will say that Korrasami was a bad and underdeveloped relationship even though it was most developed in the series will also say that Zutara should’ve been canon even though Bryke has said they never wanted zutara to be canon

[vlackevil]

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