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ilikefelines · 1 hour ago
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It's always gross how TB reduce Alicent's anger in S1E5 down to 'sHe wAs jEaLouS'. At this point, TB-stans should just admit they like villainising Alicent. They need a villain because they don't understand the idea that adult shows aren't supposed to have good guys v bad guys.
I don't know why this needs to be said, but not a single woman who exists in the world of asoiaf, needs to learn as an adult woman, that the patriarchy will not protect her. Every single woman in that world by the time they reach adulthood, are fully aware that they are at the will of the men around her and can only navigate as best she can regardless of that.
And a woman who was maritally raped at 15 and forced to give birth to 4 children before the age of 20, certainly does not need to learn this lesson in the second season of the show when she's in her 30's. Alicent Hightower was fully aware that men will not protect her. That the patriarchy will not protect her. And that she needs to stand alone amongst those men and do as best she can regardless of what obstacles she will face from those men along the way.
Alicent learned that lesson already and it was literally the entire fucking point of this scene:
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alicvnt · 2 days ago
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i find it really irritating that rhaenyra's stans are always commenting on the anti rhaenyra tags... like, y'all are really that invested in why people (team green) don't like her or support her.
instead, i see tons of rhaenyra supporters always wasting their time in pro team green posts that are correctly tagged, voicing their opinions onto us (team green), as if they're gonna change our opinions on team black / rhaenyra.
this isn't a callout post to anyone in particular, i just think it's a waste of time and energy for some of y'all to invest so much of your time in hating real life people who don't like or support your "feminist girlboss queen".
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bstag · 20 hours ago
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Idk why but the fact that the Greens caused all that havoc and then they all just died makes me love them ten times more. Like it's so unserious of them 😭
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Like this IS them!!
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maomao92 · 15 hours ago
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I just seen someone say that alicent's children weren't the product of marital rape and it just pissed me off, they then proceeded to say it is only rape if another man would have did something to her and frankly this take is actually wild. SA is SA no matter the circumstances and the fact that u said that as another woman is fucking sick
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sunfyredefender77 · 6 months ago
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welcome back margaery and loras tyrell
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the-daily-dreamer · 7 months ago
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Alicent’s relationships with her children can never be perfect and healthy because they’re objectively broken from their onset. And I’m so tired of seeing brain dead takes comparing the “superior” relationship Rhaenyra has with her kids to Alicent and her kids as some sort of gotcha.
Alicent’s exposure to motherhood isn’t on her terms in any conceivable way. Her children are the products of marital rape and coercion. They are conceived and born when she is a young teenage girl 15-18, well before she is ready to have them. They are born in quick succession with no opportunity for her to recover. And, they are from a man that not only does she not love but who neglects and belittles her.
All these factors severely damage Alicent’s ability to connect with her children in their infancy. And can you blame her given the circumstances?
She’s not ready to have them at all, so she doesn’t know how to properly mother them. And she likely resents them at least a bit in the early stages because they are the physical manifestation of not only her rape but the life she is trapped in. And that likely compounds with severe guilt because these are her babies, why doesn’t she feel the love and joy she’s supposed to?
And yet. She still loves and cares for them. She holds them as babies (despite being a baby herself) and dutifully cares for them even though she could simply dump them off with a nursemaid. She charges with a knife at Rhaenyra for them. She stands between them and a dragon from them. She betrays her closest companion of her childhood for them. She defies the king and their father for them.
I know that Alicent makes some crucial mistakes that ends up hurting her children. And I know that the scenes we see with Alicent and her kids often show her lack of connection to them. But despite the fact that her relationship to them can be nothing but fractured at the onset. There is so much passion and love and devotion she has for them.
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These are not scenes of a woman who is a bad mother. These are scenes of a mother who adores her children and would do anything for them. But who can only love them roughly because she never had an opportunity to love them gently. Their very existence was never gentle for her and never fostered through love.
Alicent’s relationship with her kids may be broken. But it’s not her fault that it is. And no matter what there is love and it is her motivation. So stop acting like she is a bad mother when she’s fighting like hell to breed a relationship with them that is fostered in connection.
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kass-of-the-midlands · 5 months ago
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Remember what they took from us
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witchy-v1xen · 10 months ago
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There's not a day when I won't feel sorry for her. He never deserved her or any of his children. Ironically, he killed Aemma for a son only to eventually gain not just one but three and neglect them. He traumatized a teenage girl for the rest of her life, using her and leaving her in the dust like she wasn't shit.  
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tessarionbestgirl · 5 months ago
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Alicent & her kids.
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Exactly, everything she despite about herself she sees on Aegon and Aemond. Aegon her softness and emotional side that she sees as weakness. Aemond is her vengefulness and rage that she find ugly. She loves and despite them both for it.
Helaena is the innocence she lost. She tries to protect and feel guilty of her lost. Daeron is her spelling image that she can't even look at.
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meanqueens · 4 months ago
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ty grrm for my canon alicent crumb (alicent loved her family so much that it was her who organized jaehaera and maelor’s escape from king’s landing and refused to snitch on what happened to them)
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amaltheas-garden · 4 months ago
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So you're telling me the woman who crowned her only daughter with her own crown, who kissed her cheeks, knelt before her, and called her "my Queen" in front of all the smallfolk of Kings Landing, would go groveling back to the woman who traumatized her precious daughter and granddaughter and murdered her grandson, to beg for mercy and to promise to force Helaena to offer up her crown and position as queen? Because no other woman in this show is allowed to want to be queen, or be viewed as worthy of the position besides Rhaenyra. No "Queen Alicent, beloved of the smallfolk", no "Helaena had been loved, Rhaenyra was hated" no no no. Helaena being loved by the smallfolk and Aegon listening to her council for the war effort was biAsEd MaEsteR pRoPAgAnDa. According to HotD, Rhaenyra was the only woman who ever wanted to be queen/had a right to be queen/was worthy of being queen/was good at being queen.
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sialater18 · 5 months ago
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I find myself agreeing with this woman’s thoughts on Alicent’s character this season. Which is a shame in many ways…
(Tagging those who might be interested in what this video has to say, I apologize if any of y’all have been trying to get this off your mind only for me to tag you here lol)
@alicentsgf , @lemonhemlock , @thewitchqueenofharrenhal , @spacerockfloater , @gwenllian-in-the-abbey , @forgotten-fossilised , @florisbaratheons , @applepie2523 , @tessarionbestgirl , @queenvhagar , @the-daily-dreamer , @chocobroing , @lunamond , @gojuo, @fearthhereaper , @abla-soso
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*Alicent sobbing* Aegon: You have to learn to love yourself. Aemond: Agreed. Heleana: Don't you both hate yourself? Aegon: This is about mother. Aemond: Yeah, stay focused.
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miss-dollette · 4 months ago
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Show writers: Let’s make Alicent in S2 betray her sons.
Alicent in S1, ready to shield her son from dragon fire, despite knowing it would kill them both/all.
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Writers must be on the same drugs the GOT writers were on when they fucked up S8.
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sunfyredefender77 · 6 months ago
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gwayne definitely knew something was going on because the way he looked at Alicent and Cole is so funny to me 😭
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the-daily-dreamer · 8 months ago
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I will never forgive HOTD for making me sit through TWO Rhaenyra births and TWO Rhaenyra weddings…
But never having us see Alicent’s wedding or births. Scenes that would have forced the fans to confront the true reality of how despicable her situation is. It would force viewers to see a child, devastated, as she walks down the aisle to her creepy old man of a husband. It would force viewers to watch a little girl have a child. Completely unprepared and alone, crying for her mother and finding no sympathy. She has no father to protect her. No mother to guide her and comfort her. No husband who cares about her.
It would force team black to stop seeing her as the evil seductress, for even a moment. And see her true vulnerability. See how she doesn’t, and never did, want this. See how these are not consequences of her actions, but instead the consequences of the men around her that she has to suffer for them. Because they don’t care about her. Viserys doesn’t care about her.
These are scenes that are meant to bring sympathy to her character. To give Alicent a reason to be righteously angry at the family and system that broke her down and stole her childhood. It gives Alicent a valid motive to fight aside from fear. And it takes away the chances for team black to deny her suffering at least a little bit.
Because as the current narrative sits, it’s easy to ignore Alicent’s experience and warp it into a much more pleasant story. They see Alicent “seducing” the king and then she is already married. And then she’s pregnant and the babies magically appear. No screaming or crying or bleeding involved. All is good. The teenager definitely didn’t suffer at all. And by doing this some people can’t sympathize as much or they are given allowances to intentionally not sympathize.
Instead. The current narrative allows for Alicent to be the seductress, the crazed woman, the jealous bitch, and the villain. But if we saw what she actually went through. Alone, scared, suffering, neglected, and holding it all in. We would be allowed to see her as she truly is. The victim. Finally crushing under the weight of it all and lashing out.
(And the narrative would be all the better for it because instead of feminist icon team vs crazy trad wife and co (as far as team black sees it), we would have woman fighting against patriarchal narrative for her own claim vs woman fighting against patriarchal narrative to destroy the people who hurt her)
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