#anti viserys i targaryen

[sunnysideaeggs]

the character i hate the most is viserys. like, genuinely hate him in all his iterations. the jolly fat prosperous king persona is in reality just an entitled stubborn man who lived his life fucking over his female relatives, marrying aemma, a literal child and impregnating her to death and usurping rhaenys, a more capable and more legitimate candidate to the throne. and he just spends his life not learning anything and keep on being an awful man.

viserys’ choice to keep rhaenyra heir fucks over all of his female relatives who are dependant on him, his wife and his daughters, so he can have the last word and solidify his authority as king. so no one can tell him what to do. this denies alicent of the social contract within marriage (you give me sons, i give those sons my name and titles), denies helaena of the social contract of the marriage he arranged for her, and puts rhaenyra in an awful position of scrutiny, manipulation, grooming and responsibility she could never fulfill, making her solely dependant on him and what agency he can provide.

and it makes sense that the only character he gives a morsel of respect and agency similar to his own is daemon, another male targaryen he grew up with who gets to fuck around and have his fill of entitlement and debauchery. after viserys dies, it is daemon who holds all the power in rhaenyra’s court, sidelining her and betraying her both as a husband and as a warrior. to add insult to the injury, those men are the ones that won because aegon iii and viserys ii are written off as the sons of daemon, not the sons of rhaenyra.

I really need people to understand that Rhaenyra’s only source of power is Viserys, he can literally name aegon heir any second and she won’t be able to do anything about it, just like Rhaenys. TB doesn’t exist outside the patriarchal society the story takes place in. The decision to cut the book scene of Viserys threatening Rhaenyra’s claim is insane to me because this is such an important plot point. If Rhaenyra was a man Viserys would’ve never been able to name aegon heir instead. Rhaenyra is just as dependent on the men in her life for power as any other woman in Westeros.

[silmarillaure]

The fact that a lot of TB’s #1 argument for supporting Rhaenyra is “Viserys wanted it” instead of “It would be a good change for Westeros and open opportunities for other women in the future” is honestly disappointing.

Why do the words of that misogynistic neglectful abusive father and predator who didn’t even regret taking what belonged to Rhaenys matter? I get sick seeing his name used in arguments because fuck that man, the law should’ve been broken to murder him.

Not all kings deserve to be respected, in fact, I think Westeros as a whole constantly proves monarchy is bad.

[adragonprinceswhore]

“He was fond of me”

“And I of him”

If the writers of House of The Dragon keep gaslighting the audience into thinking Viserys was anything better than a powerful man who stole a young girls future, dreams and physical body in the quest for a son he will never love, I will riot

[ophelieverse]

the green kids visiting their daddy death bed🥰

[witchy-v1xen]

There's not a day when I won't feel sorry for her. He never deserved her or any of his children. Ironically, he killed Aemma for a son only to eventually gain not just one but three and neglect them. He traumatized a teenage girl for the rest of her life, using her and leaving her in the dust like she wasn't shit.  

[alicentflorent]

The scariest thing about viserys is that he, and men like him, do appear to be harmless on the outside. He’s soft spoken, seems to be a bit clueless and naive, he’s generally nice to people and may even seem like a “family man” but behind closed doors you finally get to see his true colours. He has a violent side but he hides it very well. We don’t see his ugliness very often but when we do his actions are clearly abusive.

Viserys showed aggression multiple times behind closed doors, he was misogynistic in the way he viewed women and yes that includes Rhaenyra who he only really started to indulge to ease his guilt of killing her mother. He used aemma as a broodmare and put her through multiple miscarriages and stillbirths before pregnancy killed her, she was pleading with him not to put her through another pregnancy after this one then when she was dying in childbirth he didn’t even allow her to die with dignity, in the way she wanted to. Publicly, He showed love towards Aemma and cried over her death. He allowed Alicent to have some power by letting her have a seat on the council, only after years of rape and forcing her to become a mother of 4 because he was attracted to her teenage body. Both Rhaenyra and Rhaenys reference Alicent as prisoner of her circumstances in both her early years and late years of marriage. He is shown as a doting father and grandfather to Rhaenyra and her kids but ignores the children he forced Alicent to have. Their son loses an eye and he’s only concerned about “rumours” spread about his grandsons. “Look at me” he screams in the face of 10 year old Aemond who just lost his eye and is in severe pain. Then he moves on to scream in 14 year old aegon’s face. Alicent begs him “please Viserys, he’s your blood” and in this scene it’s important to note that the boys did not incriminate their mother when their father was yelling, trying to incite fear into them, they didn’t want their fathers wrath redirected towards their mother. His favouritism of Rhaenyra overshadows his early treatment of her, ignoring her and underestimating her as a worthy heir until daemon mocked his dead son. He always indulged her and never went back on her being heir. He came off as a loyal, loving father who made his daughter a queen in her own right.

Viserys could have represented a certain type of terrible man, the kind that hides behind his harmless good guy image. The show could have addressed that he is just as bad as his brother daemon but with more self control and enough denial to think of himself as a better man. Deep enough in his own deception to convince us that he was the good brother when he’s just another brand of bad. They could have addressed the damage he did to his wives and children. They could have told the audience that yes you also fell for his act and the deceptive portrayal we gave you because men like viserys will have you fooled in real life. Instead the show, which claimed to be a feminist retelling of martins work made this weak king and horrible man be praised as good husband, father and king. Never allowed his suriviving wife or daughters or even his sons be angry at him or dare to blame him.

[thequeenintheeast]

Rewatched Viserys dinner speech and Alicent and Rhaenyra look sad and like they believe him. Aemonds not even listening because he stopped thinking of him as anything to him the night he lost his eye. Aegon and Deamon look at him with doubt and irritation when he says he loves them all so dearly and apparently Haleana does too but her shot was cut.

The only people listening carefully are Rhaenyra and Daemons kids because they have been living in I’m so sheltered land for the past 6 years on Dragonstone and they believe his words at face value.

Also luke started that dinner fight. Aemond was literally staring into space and luc started laughing at him rudely. I loved the fight sequence because Aegon stopping luc and baela from intervening was like no 4 on 1 this time bitches let’s see how Jacey can do 1:1. Aegon clearly did feel guilt for the night Aemond was maimed weather his mother shamed him or not.

Team Green kids are mad but god damn are the Team Black kids spoiled entitled brats.

[aegonette]

I find it fascinating how the general audience seems to view Viserys as this wise and peaceful ruler, girldad and loving husband who did nothing wrong his entire life.

Yet even according to show!canon he continually impregnated Aemma in hopes for a male heir, despite her having MULTIPLE life threatening pregnancies. We have a scene of him raping underage Alicent. He ignores all his sons and daughter resulting from said rapes. But he's such a cool dad because he lies to the entire realm on behalf of his firstborn daughter's bastards! He's a dragon dreamer and he believes the big Ice and Fire prophecy, yet he has no interest in his second daughter who clearly has visions of sorts. Certified girldad. He never ensures the safety of Alicent's children after his death because he didn't even protect them when he was alive. He does nothing when his son gets maimed, in fact, he protects his grandson who did it. He has a family dinner on the brink of death and we're supposed to feel bad for him because the kids are making a scene. Up to this point he simply ignores hostilities and never tries to make peace between the two sides.

But apparently he's smart and kind and progressive for naming a woman heir (out of fear of his brother getting to sit on the iron throne).

[sunfyrisms]

the writers seriously had viserys choose a girl younger than his daughter as his bride. they had him and his brother humiliate her. they had her conceive all her children through him martially raping her. they had him berate alicent right after his bastard grandson permanently disabled his son, who he interrogated instead of comfort. they had him neglect all his children. they had alicent, who was once a young girl he raped and humiliated, told aegon (who viserys also neglected) that she’d hope he’d be “half the king his father was”. they had her tell rhaenyra she loved viserys.

meanwhile book!alicent literally let her husband’s corpse rot and swell.

if you can’t see that the writers are making their female characters passive and removing any ambitions and aspirations they had in the books (except for rhaenyra, who is the only woman in house of the dragon who is allowed to flaunt her privilege or have ambitions), then idk dude.

[bietrofastimoff23]

"Traitors and villains!"

His family was never completely safe. not when the king openly gave preference to his daughter, whom he allowed to go unpunished several times after treason to the crown. not when he ignored his son's injury in favor of trying to incriminate his wife and punish her because of the truth.

His family was never completely safe. even when his family was doing their duty properly because his father and sister considered themselves above the law.

His family was never completely safe. Aegon knew that when his sister ordered the swords to be raised, he would be the first whose head would fall. but he was not prepared for the fact that the first victim would be his son, killed in such an insidious and cruel way.

His family was never completely safe. why did the gods give Viserys all the time in the world that he could spend with his children when he didn't need it, while Aegon, who really loved his children, had to bury one of them before he even had time to grow up?

His family was never completely safe. and Aegon hates and despises his father and sister for this reality. hates them because they put his family in such a vulnerable position, because they turned his life into endless grief for his child.

His family was never completely safe. years earlier, Aegon did not want to be a challenge to his sister, but now he wish only one thing and that is to spill blood.

[radicalstrawberry]

i bring a “viserys was at least partially at fault for luke’s death as instead of comforting a now newly disabled aemond he berated his mother and brother over rumours ensuring the feeling of injustice in aemond and leaving an open wound which festered for the next like 6 years, eventually culminating in luke’s demise” vibe people don’t like.

[ayingdidi]

The dumbass scene with Rhaenyra isn't Alicent's liberation arc; it's simply a shift in who holds her reins. Instead of men, it's Rhaenyra now.

Alicent's true liberation arc should have happened in S1 when she was actively beefing with everyone around her; she was plotting to have Rhaenyra’s treason acknowledged, scheming to outmaneuver Otto, and was not afraid to defy Viserys' wishes.

All of this culminated in the confrontation at Driftmark. That should have been the moment of Alicent's liberation—the point where her worst fears come to life, proving her right; Rhaenyra’s flaunting of her duty finally led to Alicent and her loved ones bearing the consequences.

Viserys, in the same breath as he coddled and protected Rhaenyra, demanded that Alicent let go of her grievances and make peace with the injustices she had endured. At that moment, Alicent realized she deserved better, so she snatched Viserys precious dagger and tried to stab the very woman he ordered her to reconcile with—the same woman who, moments earlier, had demanded that her son be tortured.

Alicent stabbing Rhaenyra should have been the ultimate rejection of Viserys—a moment where she finally broke free from his shackles. That should have been Alicent final stance against her jailor. Alicent refusing to bow to his demands, and is finally free to seek justice for herself.

This should have been Alicent's liberation arc.

[seamayweed]

King Viserys vs. King Aegon

+ Bonus:

[ladymorghul]

"ohh but why don't aegon and aemond respect viserys' legacy??"

meanwhile viserys's whole attitude towards them growing up:

he disrespects their mother, he treats them like shit, he ignores helaena and has no ideas she is a dreamer, something he's wanted, he couldn't care less about any of them at all. you want them to care about this pos? you thankful they didn't kick him down the stairs.

paddy, likely about leo ashton: “i think he neglected to put any effort into those children. they didn’t like him. i was on set one day and one of the actors playing one of my sons said, ‘you hate us.’”

his literal son that he forced his second wife to bear and give birth to loses an eye and he does NOTHING. not even a word to anyone, not even a kind word to his son. viserys targaryen should absolutely rot in hell. like no other option. don't pass go, don't collect 200$.

then they meet for dinner years later and he has the audacity to say he 'loves them all'. he's legitimately a pos there's no way to put it. no wonder none of them gave a fuck when he was dead like good riddance mf.

[alicentsgf]

the way we're pretending viserys was a good king all of a sudden has me losing brain cells like did we forget his stupid ass caused this dumb as shit war

[fictonrantsworld]

Bro my queen helaena has no respect for viserys legit look at these cut scenes from bts of hotd ep 8 of viserys coming in to the dining room...😭

My girl has no respect for her neglectful father like..🤣😂😅 she immediately sat after one sec.

Say whatever about aegon and helaenas relationship but, girl fr prioritized examining and toying with aegons insect gift that he got for her, than her dying father, like girlie...

Bro even aegon stood for a while like...

Aegons look of anger at his father, when he said he loves them all, and helaenas look at viseryss face like...oh yeah...I'm supposed to feel bad for your lost eye but when aemond looses an eye it's nothing huh.