I don't know if anyone's gone through the original Dawn War pantheon* and compared the events of the Dawn War to the events of the Calamity, but it's interesting comparing how Tharizdun acts in the Dawn War to how little we know about it as the Chained Oblivion and might be useful as a theory-crafting aid for how the Chained Oblivion fits with Predathos**.
In the Dawn War, Tharizdun was a normal god, driven mad by extradimensional demons who provided him with huge amounts of power and attempted to force him to open a portal in the Astral Plane to release them. He took this power, and instead of releasing them created the Abyss. He and his would-be masters fought to a stalemate over control of the Abyss, until the rest of the pantheon found out and sealed him away, leaving him chained to a remote part of the Abyss[1].
By contrast, the Chained Oblivion is "something other entirely"[2], "less like a god and more like another world"[3]; it's been categorised as not of the Primes or Betrayers[4], and generally Matt has leaned much more into the cosmic horror vibes (sans a connection to the Far Realm) of the Chained Oblivion. It's a creature of "roiling ink and hungry darkness"[5], and was sealed at the bottom of the Abyss by the Dawnfather and the Knowing Mistress, with support from the Allhammer and the Changebringer[2, 3, 6]. The Chained Oblivion also wants to consume all and end the world and is kept at arms length by the Betrayers[5], and as a result of that plus its association with an unknowable hunger some people have now associated it with Predathos or think it and Predathos are of a similar species.
I think the Chained Oblivion is not Predathos in another form, but I do think that it's of a similar species. Looking at the Dawn War, and assuming (with the full acknowledgement that I'll more than likely be wrong) that Matt will stick as closely to the Dawn War as he has in the past, I think the Chained Oblivion is a smaller and weaker being of nothingness that decided to forge its own path instead of following Predathos' lead. My gut instinct is that the Chained Oblivion, seeing Ethedok and Vordo get eaten, took up Ethedok's mantle of darkness[7]*** and avoided working with Predathos and porentially fought the God Eater in order to survive and work its own odd plans of destruction. The Chained Oblivion makes a lot of plans to try and free itself (see the Angel of Irons or Cognouza), so I wouldn't be surprised if its propensity towards planning was present from the very moment it set foot on Exandria. Does this mean the Chained Oblivion will be let loose to fight the God Eater if Predathos is released? I doubt it, considering that it nearly killed the Knowing Mistress. And we know how the gods feel about family.
Footnotes
*The Dawn War pantheon is the slimmed down pantheon used for 4th edition D&D; can be found on page 11 of the 5th edition Dungeon Master's Guide. Used by Matt for the Primes & Betrayers with the addition of Sarenrae from Pathfinder.
**I'm aware of the pitfalls of using existing narratives and non-Exandrian lore to try and predict what's going on in CR at this moment in time; while there's not a 1:1 overlap between other D&D worlds' lore and Exandria, some of the major relationships do stay the same. For example, Pelor, Ioun and Tharizdun are all linked in Exandria and in D&D "canon" (Pelor, Ioun and Tharizdun all looked into the Far Realm and saw mysterious secrets, secrets which drove Tharizdun to want to destroy the universe as per Gates of Madness (2010). Additionally, Tharizdun is deeply associated with the Abyss across both settings). Bear with me.
***Zehir, the Cloaked Serpent is also associated with darkness; however while the Lawbearer and the Platinum Dragon are associated with order there is no explicit god of order which was Vordo's other domain. The Chained Oblivion is explicitly described as a god of darkness in both the Explorer's Guide to Wildemount (page 27) and the Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting Reborn (page 34).
References
1. Demonomicon (2010), pages 7-9. The wording of how the sealing took place is intentionally vague as it's a plot hook for DMs to expand on in their campaigns.
2. Titles and Tattoos, CR Campaign 2, Episode 84, from 14:00.
3. Explorer's Guide to Wildemount (2020), page 27.
4. Matt's Discord post during Nick Marini's AMA (linked here).
5. Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting Reborn, page 36.
6. The Endless Atheneum, CR Campaign 1, Episode 106, from 1:08:16.
7. Axiom Shaken, CR Campaign 3, Episode 43, at 3:02:19.
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Reasons to watch hit anime Psycho-Pass if you're a Bungou Stray Dogs enthusiast:
Detectives
Very cool discussions on morals
The protagonist is voiced by Lucy's va, and she's fabulous. (No I'm not kidding. one of the best written female characters I've ever seen if I can speak on the matter.)
You know the whole stray dogs symbolism that is everywhere in bsd? Well pp has that with hunting dogs
Characters will be quoting irl authors every two scenes so there's that
Gay people no queerbait!! Like actual gay people™ being gay™!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know how bsd has this kind of very annoying character who makes his coworkers lives miserable that is kind of fun to watch but you'd hate to meet irl? There's a character like that in pp too and she's a woman so I count it as a win
Complex and elaborate characters!!!! Human characters!!!! Characters that question their beliefs!!!!
A character that kinda looks like Tanizaki and a character that kinda looks like Poe
Also I'm aware there's a venn diagram of people who like bsd and ynm so you'll be delighted to find out the first season manga adaptation is illustrated by the same artist of the ynm manga
Don't watch the third season it's not worth it
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okay i would like to rant right now but i struggle to get my thoughts in order so it might be messy. ok? anyway
FOREVER will be kinda mad about this change. to be honest
the original scene reads like suchh a terrifying revelation for Reigen because despite knowing how powerful Mob was he never really found a reason to fear him -- to Reigen, his powers were mostly "under control (thanks in part to him)." that single page alone gives you basically all the information you need to understand that Reigen is suddenly realizing that he is faced with a side of Mob he has never seen before -- one without limits and also one who seems to harbour some contempt for him (for imposing them). and not only that, he is WEAK and VULNERABLE in comparison because the power he usually uses to protect himself is currently turned against him. LOOK HOW SCARED HE IS!!!
BUT even despite his fear and powerlessness he is still determined to try and reach out to Mob so they can talk things through
and i LOVE the "maybe worrying is fine, too... it's only natural" panel because it reinforces that same realization through its framing. they were both scared of mob's power in that moment but they faced and accepted it anyway, just as they both held contempt for the "other side" of Reigen and faced/accepted it as well. but it was like. IT WAS SCARY!!!!! physically and also interpersonally things very well could have gone TERRIBLY and that was SCARY!
AND IN THE ANIME ITS JUST. ITS LIKE. it feels triumphant. which is cool, i guess, but also it lacks the feelings of Deep Fear but Acceptance that made the original so impactful to meee. in the anime, he doesnt feel vulnerable, he feels empowered (which, personally, kind of takes away from the whole thing? a little) He is Reigen: facing something head on like he always does because he doesn't leave much room for doubt in his abilities to turn things in his favour. He is NOT: Reigen, doubtful and scared that things wont turn out well because he has no security in this situation due to his lack of control/knowledge about it, but choosing to face that anyway instead of running away (cuz he has the responsibility to right his wrongs and also he really cares about mob)
does that makes sense
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Shepherd and Brutus are so everything to me. Two brothers in a shitty situation (Legion). Brutus sucks up to the commanders, to Caesar, to anyone for an OUNCE of power he can use to protect Shepherd- but he doesn't tell his brother WHY he's kissing ass. As a result Shepherd resents him for it- thinks he's pathetic and power hungry and he's forgetting everything the Legion did to their tribe for a bit more power.
If Brutus wasn't emotionally repressed and so violently protective just TALKED to his younger brother there would be no problems.
And then one of them dies at Hoover dam(which one depends on the playthrough as Shep is my independent courier, and Brutus my legion one) and the other has to deal with all this left over loss on resentment on their own.
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