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Oh nein, Oh nein
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The hug!!
This one was once again commissioned by our dear @i-am-as-normal-as-you-are and we actually talked about this scene quite a lot. Charles is still going through it, and he doesn't even feel like he should be getting the hugs he needs. Poor boy.
#dead boy detectives#dbda#payneland#edwin x charles#reverse verse#edwin is the one to initiate the hug this time#in this verse the boys actually hug quite a lot#because charles loves it and edwin can't deny him anything#but it's usually charles who starts#the rest of the events of the episode are pretty much the same#but for this version of charles the way everyone loved the so called dragons while they actually sucked#well it hits a little too close to home#not to mention he's already struggling with niko being there#with thomas being weird and coming out of nowhere#and the crow king being after edwin for his own actions#he hasn't dare to ask for the usual forms of comfort he usually gets#but edwin knows him and sees him as his savior#and charles sees this and thinks “ah i've manipulated you and made you believe i'm good”#but then again he's too selfish to prove edwin wrong right?#better act like a good person for the rest of eternity#(he is a good person he's just a little fucked up and won't admit it)
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While Charles is clearly jealous of Monty, he isn’t jealous of the cat king, he’s angry and terrified on Edwin’s behalf
I think people forget that for Charles, Edwin was gone for hours, possibly the longest they’ve been apart since they met
We only see Edwins perspective, we don’t get to see Charles spiralling because he knows almost nothing and can do even less
Then when Edwin comes back, after hours of being with the cat king, he’s acting strangely and won’t tell Charles what happened, so he can only assume it was something awful because why else would Edwin hide something from him? The only things they don’t tell each other about are their worst traumas
Charles had an entire evening to imagine all the worst possible scenarios of what the cat king could be putting Edwin through, that doesn’t go away just because Edwin told him it was only a few minutes for him
#even with monty reducing his feelings to just jealousy is ignoring a lot of nuance but with tck it’s just straight up wrong#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#the cat king#dbda
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the woke left are putting chemicals into the water that are turning the found families gay
#am i wrong?#charles rowland#edwin payne#payneland#(kind of?)#niko sasaki#cat king#dead boy detectives
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just a thought :3
#big fluffy kittyyy#do y’all see the vision or am i wrong#he’d shed like crazy 😭#lap cuddles would be a problem but who could resist#he’s a king ! he should be set apart from the other kitties#dead boy detectives#netflix#edwin payne#cat king#edwin paine#thomas the cat king#catwin#maine coon#edwin x cat king
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EDWIN PAYNE: "YOU ARE MY PAIN, DIVINE, DIVINE"
my very first dbd edit !!!
i really love how edwin interacted with the other characters in this show. it was originally supposed to be just a painland/payneland edit but i wanted more so i added everyone 😭 really really love how this turned out ! this show is so special to me ♥
also thought that come back to me was perfect for edwin so i just had to make this :')
#dead boy detectives#save dead boy detectives#renew dead boy detectives#edwin paine#edwin payne#george rexstrew#charles rowland#jayden revri#painland#payneland#crystal palace#crystal palace surname von hoverkraft#kassius nelson#niko sasaki#yuyu kitamura#monty the crow#monty finch#joshua colley#joshua robert colley#the cat king#thomas king#lukas gage#and simon too i guess#bts#rm#bts_rm#rpwp#right place wrong person#come back to me#bts song edit
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And somehow, they're the ones that didn't end up endgame (no payneland shade tho)
No because why was he reading this man like a book then kissed him???
#catwin#cat king x edwin#cat king#edwin payne#dead boy detectives#don't get me wrong i love payneland as much as the next person#but like this#how can they no be canon
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there are all of 6 fics on ao3 that come up when you search the word “disabled” in the dead boy detectives fandom. I’m dealing with a fibromyalgia flare up rn so I’ve decided to come up with some (potential!) disability/condition/syndrome/etc. headcanons. enjoy!
(oh and just to note: I stayed away from conditions with obvious facial / appearance difference as no actors with facial / appearance difference were cast in the show and I was unsure if it would be appropriate. while I have experience with a lot of the following diagnoses, I do not claim to be an expert on any of them and do not intend for this to be used as a diagnostic tool. if you feel any of these are offensive/inappropriate, please message me and I’m happy to talk about it :) this is more just to encourage broader disability representation within the fandom!)
Edwin: autistic, PTSD (from hell), chronic pain/fibromyalgia (from his death/hell), minor visual impairment (not enough to need the hard-to-come-by testing needed for glasses when he was alive and so assumed the various limits/effects were normal. was told otherwise by Niko), would’ve had shingles if lived long enough
Charles: ADHD, PTSD (from his father/growing up in an abusive household), dyslexia, Reynaud’s syndrome (either already born with it or as a result of his death—both angsty), was in the beginning stages of an ED prior to his death, post-concussion syndrome, near-sightedness (never given glasses bc he wasn’t about to tell his dad the board looked a little blurry sometimes)
Crystal: cPTSD (reminder that neglect is also abuse :), bipolar 1, IBS, endometriosis
Niko: autism, depression, POTS, hEDS, anxiety, sprite-induced agoraphobia, epilepsy, lactose intolerance
Monty: Depersonalization-derealization disorder, selective amnesia (this is not the first times Esther has messed with his form/killed and revived him, but the experience is traumatic and so his brain decides not to remember it), recurrent arrhythmia, synesthesia
Jenny: OCD, BPD, ED recovered, Celiac’s disease, diabetes type 1, anemia
TCK: autism, NPD, lactose intolerance, colourblind
Esther: chronic pain (I’m choosing to believe that the cane isn’t just for show!!), NPD, endometriosis
Tragic Mick: cPTSD, depression, HoH, arthritis, diabetes
(The Night Nurse , the Dandelion Sprites, and various other characters felt either too supernatural and/or not developed enough to assign anything to lmao)
#maybe I’ll give edwin fibromyalgia to project on him again#also just to be clear none of this is meant to demonise or speak poorly on any of these conditions !!!#ppl are just varied and have varied bodies and I think it’s fun to explore that with fictional characters :)#lmk which you agree/don’t agree with !!!#also while I don’t see most of the characters as deaf/HoH I do think Charles and Niko have the potential to be CODA(s?)#like I think Charles’s mom and Niko’s dad could’ve been deaf/HoH#granted idk if Charles would know any BSL bc of his father#but I think Niko would know JSL!#she loses her dad and then has no one to use it with :((((#like her mom maybe stops signing or was never great at signing with her husband’s death#and Niko’s father’s friends don’t really hang around even before she’s sent to the states yk#let the record show I was very tempted to give Edwin all sorts of chronic shit that was popular at the turn of the century#but like polio felt a bit too far#TCK is based on how cats are ofc#I think Crystal having manic episodes and having to come to terms with the fact that it doesn’t make her a bad person would be interesting#also Monty is roughly based on how crows be but like how it would translate wrong if that makes sense#like crows can see more colors than humans so I think that screws with his senses in human form => synesthesia#you could give most of them here ptsd just from the events of the show but that felt too repetitive so I kept it to pre show traumas#lmk what yall think#dead boy detectives#dbda#edwin payne#charles rowland#crystal palace#niko sasaki#monty the crow#jenny the butcher#esther finch#the cat king#tragic mick
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insanely long analysis of parallel shots between edwin’s love interests in dbd (and how well body language conveys their relationships)
When Edwin is with Charles, we can see he is entirely relaxed. His head has a little tilt to it, and the light (though I’m sure not intentional) sways towards Charles. This is comfortable to him, yet he keeps his physical distance.
With the Cat King he is staring at him straight on, almost as a challenge. Still backlit, but by a very big centred crown. There is no bias here in Edwin’s mind. This is a business transaction. Tom is reaching for him, but Edwin doesn’t move.
Here we see more of Tom’s attraction to Edwin, in open lighting as he doesn’t try to hide what he wants. He mirrors Edwin’s head tilt in the first image with Charles just more intensely since he recognises that he’s into him. His dialogue in this scene was very teasing and sultry, but his expression is nearly pleading. Edwin draws away once he begins to realise this has become personal.
In both instances where Edwin gets all up close ajd personal, Tom averts his gaze. Once to the bracelet as he is confronted with the lengths he has gone to to have Edwin, once completely away from him because he doesn’t want to recognise that this may be more than physical. Backlit when realising his feelings are romantic, open light when Edwin is finally putting himself out there.
Edwin and Monty don’t have side profile scenes necessarily, but we do get two in which one of their faces can be seen.
This is Edwin very flustered and obviously realising that he is feeling something for this boy. For Monty at this point, it is meant to be acting (whether it is or not I can’t say) and so we don’t see his face. Again in open light as Monty is coming on very strong.
Monty’s scene is very tragically the kiss scene. He feels every emotion in this scene, Edwin feels none. His face is concealed in a shadow.
Would also like to mention he leans in with his entire body, slightly pushing Edwin to the side (away) which was 100% a conscious choice.
Horrible quality image but they sit far apart from each other, staring on. Edwin up until now has been an enjoyer of eye contact, so this puts us off.
Edwin is also consistently on the left side of everyone, which probably means something, but I’ll let you decide that one
(edit: also with monty and edwin’s initial scenes we only see one of their faces because they don’t know the other’s intentions, and only see both once the truth is revealed)
(edit 2: added read more line bcs apparently you can do that)
#one draft#no rewrites so this isn’t particularly insightful#just thought it was neat#monty dead boy detectives#the dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detectives#the cat king#thomas the cat king#tomwin#montwin#catwin#payneland#paineland#edwin paine#edwin pain#edwin payne#neil gaiman#show analysis#except i’m probably wrong
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Obsessed with the Cat King’s delivery of “I’m terrifically busy with my ennui”
Exactly how my cat looks at me when I have the audacity to be in her presence
#i know this gif is from the wrong bit but there’s hardly any gifs of him for some reason#dead boy detectives#dead boy detectives spoilers#dead boy detectives cat king#the cat king#lukas gage
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summary of the plot of dead boy detectives:
everyone wants to fuck edwin
#and you can't tell me that i'm wrong#i hope this convinces other people to watch the series#because i physically need another season#netflix please don't be an asshole again#dead boy detectives#dbd#edwin payne#charles rowland#the cat king#monty the crow
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hello???? looking at the bracelet after that ?? gayass.
#ok we knew episode 2 was the edwin having gay panic about the cat king episode#but i think this is the most unequivocal 'edwin does actually want the cat king too' we get#it's very interesting to me that he is aware at least on some level about how he's attracted to men even this early on#it's not that he doesn't realise how he feels. he just believes it is wrong#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#edwin paine#the cat king#edwin x the cat king#<- i don't actively ship it but i need the reach#im much more fascinated by the internal workings of edwin and how he interacts with people + himself than i am by shipping him with anyone
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(cred to @cloudofbutterflies for the awesome chart base)
#crystal isnt on here bc she doesnt fit any of these imo#im sorry for doing edwin so dirty but am i wrong#maybe should have put monty higher towards victim but hey#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#esther finch#charles rowland#jenny the butcher#niko sasaki#the cat king#monty the crow
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One of my favorite DBDA scenes is when Charles toss the Night Nurse of the cliff right into the angler fish mouth. There's that terribly epic music and Charles rage is finally released. And the complementary colours: the orangy/red Night Nurse and the blue/teal water and angler fish.
Probably my FAVOURITE scene.
I love this show, is a real pity that's been cancelled! I'm so sad and angry about it!
I'm at my fourth rewatch. What about you?
Let's be calm and love this show.
⬆️ Image from The Sandman wiki.
#dbda#dbda show#nobody is talking about this scene or I am in the wrong part of Tumblr#the night nurse#dead married couple on acid#dead boy detective agency#nobody#netflix cancellation#netflix cancelled show#my favourite scene#angie the angler fish#the most epic scene#epic scene#charles rowland#edwin paine#crystal palace#niko sasaki#jenny green#dead boy detectives#the cat king#kassius nelson#yuyu kitamura#briana cuoco#ruth connell#jenn lyon#renew dead boy detectives#save dead boy detectives
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honestly it's a crime that there are all of these banging cat songs and I haven't seen a single cat king edit to any of them
#willing to be proven wrong#cool cat#the lovecats#honky cat#cool for cats#stray cat strut#Spotify#dead boy detectives#cat king#the cat king#edwin payne#charles rowland#payneland#catwin#dbd#dbda#dead boy detective agency
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*Monty and Thomas making out*
Thomas: Talk to me.
Monty: Okay, uh… weird thing happened on the train this morning-
Thomas: *laughing* No, no, no. Talk dirty.
Monty: Well… here?
Thomas: Come on. Say something… hot.
Monty: Uh… um… what? Umm… cloaca.
[later]
Charles: Cloaca?
Monty: I panicked, alright. He took me by surprise, you know. But it wasn’t a total loss, we ended up cuddling.
Charles: Woah, you cuddled? How many times?
Monty: Shut up, it was nice. I just don’t think I’m the dirty-talking type of guy.
Charles: What’s the big deal? You just say what you want to do to him, and what you want him to do to you, and what you think other people might be doing to each other.
Charles: Look, I’ll tell you what. Try something on me.
Monty: Please be kidding.
Charles: Why not? Come on, just close your eyes and tell me what you’d like to be doing right now.
Monty: *hesitates* Okay I’m uh… I’m in my apartment…
Charles: Yeah… what else?
Monty: That’s it. I’m in my apartment, you’re not there, and we’re not having this conversation.
Charles: Alright, look, I’ll start okay.
Monty: Charles, don’t.
Charles: Come on, come on. Ready? Look, oh Monty, you get me so hot, I want your lips on me now.
Monty: Huh?
Charles: *proud of himself* Uh-huh. Alright now you say something.
Monty: I really don’t think so.
Charles: You like this guy, right?
Monty: Yeah.
Charles: You want to see him again, right?
Monty: Mm-hmm.
Charles: Well, if you can’t talk dirty to me, how are you gonna talk dirty to her? Now tell me you want to caress my butt.
Monty: *stares* Okay, turn around.
Charles: *raises his eye brows*
Monty: Not that, I just don’t want you staring at me while I’m doing this.
Charles: Alright I’m not looking, go ahead. *turns around*
Monty: Okay. *clears his throat, and closes his eyes* I want… okay, I-I wanna feel your… hot, soft skin with my lips.
Charles: There you go. Keep going, keep going.
Monty: I uh…
*crystal walks in*
Monty: I wanna take my tongue and…
*crystal realizes whats happening*
Charles: And, and? Say it. Say it!
Monty: Run it all over your body until you’re… trembling with… with…
*crystal sits down, the chair creaks*
*monty and charles slowly turn around*
*crystal smiles gleefully*
Crystal: With..?
Monty: Funny story.
Charles: You’re not gonna believe this.
Crystal: *sarcastically* It’s okay, it’s okay, I was always rooting for you two kids to get together
#cloaca bc birds#idk what’s wrong with me#dead boy detectives#save dead boy detectives#charles rowland#crystal palace#monty finch#thomas the cat king#catcrow#cricketcrow#incorrect dead boy detective quotes#dbda incorrect quotes#incorrect quotes#source: friends
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