#vivs rant

[indigomovn]

If I’m going to be honest, I kinda had a feeling Lucas was eventually gonna depart from NCT and WayV.

Now I just wanna first off say that I am sad that he’s no longer an NCT and WayV member. I’ve been an NCTZEN since July 2016 and they’re my favourite group. Ever since Lucas’ scandal and hiatus, I was wondering what SM and Lucas are going to do moving forward.

I mentioned this in a post on my main blog, but I kinda saw this coming. Ever since he was placed on hiatus, we hardly got any news regarding the scandal. Whether it was true or false, we got nothing from SM. They did nothing to protect him nor take any legal action to prevent this from happening. Did they really think making him go on hiatus and laying low for a while the best solution for him? Despite being one of biggest companies in the Korean entertainment industry, you’d think they would have a good PR team. Maybe they do it’s just they don’t care about their foreign idols. 🤷🏻‍♀️

While I’m sure it was a difficult decision for Lucas to leave, it was probably the best solution they’ve agreed upon. Now that this scandal is attached to Lucas, imagine the amount of unnecessary hate Wayv and NCT will get if he’s still in the group I mean they still get hate anyway from antis. People are going to use his scandal as an excuse to hate the rest of the members despite them having no part in it whatsoever. It’s unfair for them to be the subject of hate because of this scandal when they had nothing to do with it. That’s all they’re going to talk about whenever Lucas comes up in a topic. Regardless whether Lucas was innocent or not, this scandal has significantly affected his image and he won’t ever get back to the same status he had prior to the scandal. People still don’t like Taeyong after his “scandal” despite being proven innocent countless of times and people still hate Hyunjin for his bullying scandal despite the case being fabricated. It won’t be any different for Lucas.

At the end of the day, South Korea is still a conservative nation and thrives on collectivism. Your reputation/image is very important. While Lucas leaving the group will be good for NCT’s and WayV’s image towards the general public, it wouldn’t be the same for the members and fans. I understand the frustration a lot of us are feeling as we waited for him for almost 2 years just for SM to announce his departure. Despite no longer being a member, please wish Lucas on his future activities. Hopefully, we see him happier and healthier soon.

[woofs-silly-ships]

"ace in the hole" is old slang used to mean a hidden advantage. Ace being used to mean asexual is only within the past 15-20 years.

I think with that particular line, Viv meant it in the old slang, forgot the younger gen asexuals call themselves ace, and pretended that's what she meant all along. (I'm 99% sure Viv never pays attention to the TQIA+ side, so that's why she ignores and excludes us)

Rosie calling Al her hidden advantage makes far more sense, especially with these new leaks.

Anyway, I don't think Viv should have bothered making an aroace character. She is obviously very into shipping culture and is definitely stepping away from any aromantic Alastor ideas. We'll probably have to say goodbye to his asexuality as well. Hazbin and HB are very LGB only kind of shows.

Oh my god. OH MY GOD

welp. There goes my remaining positive thoughts on that line.

And that also means Al didn’t just not know what asexual meant, he genuinely was like “Rosie wtf- can you not-“ AND THEN VIV PROBABLY TWISTED IT TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE SHE HAD DECENT REPRESENTATION-

that last part is genuinely how I feel about the whole canon hellaverse tho, but even that’s debatable when you look at how stereotyped the gay and pan characters specifically are (the gay characters are all dramatic and horny/sex obsessed, and the pan characters are all also horny to an even more extreme degree (except Bee for some reason, I need to rescue her and Tex from this freaking show istg 😭)). I think Viv wants to be an ally of some kind but is just failing miserably

Yeah but if Alastor ever gets a canon partner or is no longer asexual I will be down pounding my head against the kitchen floor (/ref [never missing the chance for a will wood reference]) before writing a 50 page essay on how stupid that decision is /hj… only half joking.

But like yeah. Viv, we get it, you like shipping. But you can live without shipping just one character but having free rein of most others. It’s not that hard.

[celtrist]

I just vented out a whole rant about how aromantisim is treated within Hazbin/helluva. I'm not really sure if I should post it for multiple reasons, one of which being I don't want anyone to feel targeted about it or take it the wrong way (like I honestly dont have beef with Al shippers. Gripes, but no beef as I also ship him on occasion).

There was just a sudden burst of frustration I had with it that I think was in part just came from built up frustration from other things. There's things I'd like to have out there, but I don't really think it'd get far or, again, be just taken the wrong way. I don't see a point in posting if people are gonna ignore it, plus it wouldn't change how things are now. If anyone has any thoughts or are curious let me know, but I don't wanna make anyone feel like shit or put a pointless rant out there no one wanted to see. I also wanna keep rants to a minimum as I know people aren't always into that sort of stuff, especially if you don't follow someone for that and you just get an influx of posts of them complaining. And I still want to keep things relatively light hearted around here, at best maybe just some critiques on things here and there.

It's late, I'm on my phone when I should probably just sleep it off, so sleep it off I will.

[atlasrayz]

Ok hi time to rant abt hazbin/helluva because i will forever be upset about the outcome of those shows.

Indie animation has been on a rise lately, with so many different amazing shows being available on youtube.

I watched the hazbin hotel pilot around the time it came out, and it really interested me. The characters seemed interesting and the premise wasnt really something you see often. I was excited.

I kept up with Viv's work and got into helluva boss. I thought it had some good jokes and the bits of lore we got made me want to keep watching. However, the premise of literally every episode is the same. A bad ex or a bad dad. Its a formula, and it shows up in Hazbin too.

Viv has some obsession with daddy issues, and problems with characterising her women characters. Charlie is the *main character* of Hazbin Hotel, but she has literally no growth or development. Millie also falls victim to this.

The one episode where she actually gets some attention feels... wrong? It felt like they were mischaracterising Moxxie so that they can fabricate conflict between Moxxie and Millie. Moxxie loves his wife, and he has literally never once been shown or implied that he would try to upstage her. Yeah, he's definitely got some inferiority going on, hes constantly being belittled by Blitz. Hes the show's punching bag, but i feel like it had never been implied that he hated himself more than he loved his wife. I hate that episode with a burning passion because how tf are you going to mischaracterise your own fucking characters.

I hate the way they did Lucifer. He should NOT have been some wacky, silly guy who just doesnt know how to reach out to his daughter. He's not bad! He's just anxious UwU. His entire character is irritating. Having a wacky fun character is fine, i love characters like that, but Lucifer shouldn't have been that character.

In the pilot, it was implied that Lucifer hangs over Charlie and his influence puts a lot of pressure on her, but then we meet him and hes just. A guy. Who doesnt talk to his daughter a lot. Which makes absolutely no sense. You could argue that they retconned a lot from the pilot, which, yeah, its all new voice actors so, sure. But then, why wouldnt they remake it in some way, in any way?

Not to mention that all the characters feel flat. Even in Helluva. In Helluva we get filler and backstory, but even then the characters dont change or grow. Quite literally the only good thing out of Helluva is Fizz. His arc and story is the only one that actually breaks from the formula of bad ex bad dad and his character actually changes from the lessons in the episode. I love Fizz for pretty much that reason alone.

Moxxie and Biltz have an episode where they promise to be nicer to eachother *and then they fucking don't?* They stay the *exact same* towards each other. If you're going to do that, then don't make a story based show. Make one of those slice of life, 10 minute episodes combined into one 20 minute episode that shows no growth, and is just there to be fun. Those shows arent bad, they just have a different purpose.

I've been so upset with the results of Hazbin Hotel. The pacing is awful, the characters have no time to change or grow, and their dynamics just arent interesting. It sucks because I saw a world where this indie show got on amazon prime (!!) And was amazing and did amazing things and set the stage for other indie shows to finally get big and then all we got was poorly written, rushed slop that feels like a huge kick in the teeth to anyone who cared about the show. Or, at least, it did to me.

[petitprincess1]

the hateboners that the antis have for hazbin and everything related to viv is INSANE. can't scroll through any kind of social media (especially on twitter!) without accidentally stumbling upon the dumbest, most braindead takes. can't make silly little posts about hh or hb without antis flooding in. it's like their entire personality is to hate on viv and her works for some fucking reason

SO SO FUCKING REAL!

That's why I had to leave Twitter. It's just impossible to say even the slightest thing positive about HB and/or HH without the swarms of hate. Like I posted the small clip from the first ep of Hazbin with Adam wanting to be called "Dickmaster" bc I found Charlie's blunt af reply funny, especially since she's usually so perky. That's it. So many fucking QRTs of people either saying how bad or unfunny, commenting about Verbalase, and [insert stupid ass drama here]

And it's not even like I could block them. The moment I blocked 5 accounts there would be, no exaggeration, hundreds of others popping out of nowhere. It got to a point where it was bad for my mental health. If it weren't for HB and HH posting on Twitter, I would have no problem deactivating my account. It's so bad.

Don't even get me started on TikTok, even some of the fans there can be a bit much 😮‍💨

While Tumblr has hateful shit, it's not nearly as bogged down as Twitter is. Plus, I find so much more love here than I ever have on Twitter. (Not to say no one was nice to me. It just was a lot of hate that it was hard to separate the good from the bad.)

I'm not saying that they can't dislike Vivzie or anyone. It's just mind-boggling how antis/crits will literally HARASS ppl for watching a cartoon, even if that person also has misgivings for Viv. Which some fans do and that's perfectly fine. It's almost like separating art from the artist isn't hard.

I think it's even stranger when fans often echo the SAME CRITICISMS that they're saying, and yet....we dick ride Viv?? Um...sure....why not....

At this point, I just mainly say positive shit out of spite (and genuine love for the shows ofc). I'm just so done.

[deadlyangelofpurity]

Has anyone thought about how poorly Charlie's plan is because ignoring redemption even working, it doesn't seem like Charlie questions why the Sinners are in Hell and what got them there because it doesn't seem like Charlie addresses the vile actions the Sinners committed in their lives.

Seriously Angel was a gangster. If Viv actually gonna address the innocent people in Heaven who Angel killed? Is he even gonna apologize because repentance clearly isn't a requirement given what happened with Pentious.

Even if Angel does apologize, it's gonna be awkward because Charlie's plan legit relies on abusers and their victims living in the same area and Charlie doesn't really address the implications this has. Seriously a lot of people in Hell probably screwed over those in Heaven and it might be a bad idea to place people with their abusers in Heaven, especially on a mass scale without another plan to make the transition smoother because Charlie's plan amounts to sending them to Heaven and basically fucking off afterwards.

[anonymouscheeses]

GUYS TELL ME THIS IS REAL. I JST SAW A PIC OD VIVZIE IN FRONY OF A MELANIE TRILOGY TOUR BACKDROP. I MEAN ITS VIV, THE CREATOR OF HAZBITCH HOETEL AND HELLUVA BOOBS BUT ITS FUN TO KNOW THIS IDFK. I HOPR THIS COMMENT IS ACTUALLU TRUE THOUGH BECAUSE FAAAAACKKK I LOVE THAT SOO MUCH. VAGGIE IS A CRYBABY RAAAA 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 RVEN IG ITS NOT CANON ITS SUCH A FUN HEADCANON 💜💜 IDK WHAT TO SAY I JST LOVE VAGGIE SMM EGSUSIODOE

Istg if anyone says "ugh, now I don't like Melanie martinez.... 😒" I'm going to touch you

[chaifootsteps]

Do Hazbin fans recognise you can appreciate the concept of telling a story about restorative justice while still being critical of how Vivziepop chose to handle that theme in her shows?

To me, that's one of the most disappointing things about HH, that it was looking like it was going to be a story about restorative justice and instead it's a story about...I don't even know.

How you don't need to change yourself at all, but also you're a disgusting person if you take drugs, and also how rape is funny and your fault.

[twilghtkoo]

📬 . . . hello ! (>_<)

teases for upcoming works ! i’ve been a bit ia bc of school but inspo keeps flowing thru me and i want to try and get these out by this week !! i hope u guys are doing well :3

[bunnihhoon]

This picture of him makes me wanna get on my knees

[drinksglue]

Find it very interesting that some of the same people who claim they're "proship aligned" and acknowledge that sex-negativity is bad are also the same ones who think that Hazbin Hotel is problematic for "romanticizing/fetishizing drugs and trafficking"

not liking it is one thing but "this thing is problematic and bad and the author is a horrible person because the story romanticizes this thing I don't like" always has been, and always will be, anti rhetoric.

[doodle17]

A peice of me dies whenever I see Richard Horvitz hanging out with Vivziepop THAT SHOULD BE ME NOT HER

[urproblematicfav-arsonk]

I think part of why this whole court scene/mastermind song falls SO FUCKING FLAT, is that it's trying to be coy and sarcastic....when its just.......not??

The song is supposed to be this fake bolstering from Stolas. Its supposed to be him playing into this caricature of what the Goetia are like, how Stolas is supposed to view imps and Blitz. It's him acting like "Yes! Tis I! The evil bad man who never cared!! I think imps are stupid!!"

And we're supposed to watch this, and think "but..........Stolas doesn't think that.........Stolas....respects Blitz?"

When he doesn't.

Stolas has been forcing Blitz into non consensual raceplay kink since they met. Stolas has been unironically calling Blitz "imp plaything" since they started fucking. He constantly sexts, and calls him to talk about his "huge dick" when Blitz' makes extremely obvious both in words and body language that he does not like being treated like that.

(could go on a separate rant about how brown/black men are often hypersexualized for their bodies and how their perceived has big and aggressive. Actually with the court scene and Blitz being accused of rape after he was sex trafficked, that's actually extremely relevant here-)

Stolas has EXCLUSIVELY used Blitz for sex. Every opportunity he's had to have a normal interaction with him, he's spent trying to fuck.

The date they had was spent with Blitz being publicly hate crimed, Stolas doing nothing to defend him and then acting like Blitz is the asshole for not wanting to "hang out" after he was, again, HATE CRIMED.

The whole trip at Loolooland was just Stolas tryna fuck instead of spend time with his daughter.

Speaking of daughter. Anyone wanna talk about how Stolas has been openly sexually abusing his daughter for the entire show????

Anyway, the point is, the new ep is trying to be like "whao..........Stolas is making all this degrading stuff up to save him!!!" NO HE ISN'T. HE ALREADY BELIEVES ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND HAS NEVER APOLOGIZED OR CHANGED HIS BEHAVIOR.

Stolas' character arc SHOULD be him facing his racist upbringing and bias, growing and changing from it. The solution to this power imbalance and racism isn't to like.....make the white slave owner just....poor?? What????

also, doing a "I'd rather die then live without you" bit is stupid enough, but its especially stupid when they're not even friends. Gun to Stolas' head, can he say ANYTHING about who Blitz is as a person, or what he likes outside of sex? Stolas can't even say what kinks Blitz has because their sexual relationship was purely one-sided survival and not like, fun for Blitz either

Anyway this show sucks lmao. Obligatory proship mention because I dont want to get lumped in with the people who say "what did they think would happen?" about val fans getting sent death/rape threats.

[ellieputellas]

which one do you guys want first

viv miedema x reader fluff wherein viv has a huge crush on reader who is the mancity photographer but has no idea how to confess (kinda a prologue to jealousy, jealousy)

jule brand x reader fluff/angst wherein you meet your boyfriend’s girl best friend jule who seemed jealous of u and has a crush on ur boyfriend but actually has a crush on YOU

something else (send it to my ask!)

[twobellsilence]

Can't believe I unknowingly made Ray's sleazeball of a father share the same last name as one of my dearest mutuals 💀

[uninformedartist]

Ya'll...

She ranting again on twitter and explaining demonology and lore she fokkin butchered on twitter (ಠ_ಠ)

Viv, your sparkle dog is a disgrace to insects, a disgrace to the lore you are borrowing from... I cannot with this woman (°ω°), there is way more tweets of her defending this awful design on twitter, feel free to look sorry not posting it all its just a lot of crap she's saying.

Like she is also DEFINITELY salty that an artist on twitter did an amazing redesign of Queen bee and got a lot of likes and traction (as they deserve for such an amazing design 🤌)

🙏 I'm just here to see the train wreck got nothing more to say because Vivie is saying it all so nicely for us, also if yo know you know but ‎ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) we were all waiting for this so its no surprise 😭🤣.