#vivs rant

[indigomovn]

If I’m going to be honest, I kinda had a feeling Lucas was eventually gonna depart from NCT and WayV.

Now I just wanna first off say that I am sad that he’s no longer an NCT and WayV member. I’ve been an NCTZEN since July 2016 and they’re my favourite group. Ever since Lucas’ scandal and hiatus, I was wondering what SM and Lucas are going to do moving forward.

I mentioned this in a post on my main blog, but I kinda saw this coming. Ever since he was placed on hiatus, we hardly got any news regarding the scandal. Whether it was true or false, we got nothing from SM. They did nothing to protect him nor take any legal action to prevent this from happening. Did they really think making him go on hiatus and laying low for a while the best solution for him? Despite being one of biggest companies in the Korean entertainment industry, you’d think they would have a good PR team. Maybe they do it’s just they don’t care about their foreign idols. 🤷🏻‍♀️

While I’m sure it was a difficult decision for Lucas to leave, it was probably the best solution they’ve agreed upon. Now that this scandal is attached to Lucas, imagine the amount of unnecessary hate Wayv and NCT will get if he’s still in the group I mean they still get hate anyway from antis. People are going to use his scandal as an excuse to hate the rest of the members despite them having no part in it whatsoever. It’s unfair for them to be the subject of hate because of this scandal when they had nothing to do with it. That’s all they’re going to talk about whenever Lucas comes up in a topic. Regardless whether Lucas was innocent or not, this scandal has significantly affected his image and he won’t ever get back to the same status he had prior to the scandal. People still don’t like Taeyong after his “scandal” despite being proven innocent countless of times and people still hate Hyunjin for his bullying scandal despite the case being fabricated. It won’t be any different for Lucas.

At the end of the day, South Korea is still a conservative nation and thrives on collectivism. Your reputation/image is very important. While Lucas leaving the group will be good for NCT’s and WayV’s image towards the general public, it wouldn’t be the same for the members and fans. I understand the frustration a lot of us are feeling as we waited for him for almost 2 years just for SM to announce his departure. Despite no longer being a member, please wish Lucas on his future activities. Hopefully, we see him happier and healthier soon.

[66kenobi66]

Now all the ableism in Helluva is terrible but this one gets to me specifically>>>

T/CW: Ableism, R-Slur

I think it's because there WAS a joke that could of worked here. She's a nurse in the Sloth ring so maybe she's stalling and acting dumb because she's just lazy and doesn't wanna do her job.

BUT NO!

They had to turn it into yet another joke about how all mentally disabled people are just a bunch of useless retards who can't do anything but drool all over themselves and waste everyone's time like the helpless things they are.

Hell, they almost had Blitz call her a retard but they pussied out at the last moment because "Ha-ha, he almost called this random woman a retard because she can't read! Ableism is so funny and cute and cool!! Disabled people don't deserve basic respect!!! 😂🤣😋"

Sorry this has just been bugging me and I needed to get my anger out :/

[woofs-silly-ships]

"ace in the hole" is old slang used to mean a hidden advantage. Ace being used to mean asexual is only within the past 15-20 years.

I think with that particular line, Viv meant it in the old slang, forgot the younger gen asexuals call themselves ace, and pretended that's what she meant all along. (I'm 99% sure Viv never pays attention to the TQIA+ side, so that's why she ignores and excludes us)

Rosie calling Al her hidden advantage makes far more sense, especially with these new leaks.

Anyway, I don't think Viv should have bothered making an aroace character. She is obviously very into shipping culture and is definitely stepping away from any aromantic Alastor ideas. We'll probably have to say goodbye to his asexuality as well. Hazbin and HB are very LGB only kind of shows.

Oh my god. OH MY GOD

welp. There goes my remaining positive thoughts on that line.

And that also means Al didn’t just not know what asexual meant, he genuinely was like “Rosie wtf- can you not-“ AND THEN VIV PROBABLY TWISTED IT TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE SHE HAD DECENT REPRESENTATION-

that last part is genuinely how I feel about the whole canon hellaverse tho, but even that’s debatable when you look at how stereotyped the gay and pan characters specifically are (the gay characters are all dramatic and horny/sex obsessed, and the pan characters are all also horny to an even more extreme degree (except Bee for some reason, I need to rescue her and Tex from this freaking show istg 😭)). I think Viv wants to be an ally of some kind but is just failing miserably

Yeah but if Alastor ever gets a canon partner or is no longer asexual I will be down pounding my head against the kitchen floor (/ref [never missing the chance for a will wood reference]) before writing a 50 page essay on how stupid that decision is /hj… only half joking.

But like yeah. Viv, we get it, you like shipping. But you can live without shipping just one character but having free rein of most others. It’s not that hard.

[celtrist]

I just vented out a whole rant about how aromantisim is treated within Hazbin/helluva. I'm not really sure if I should post it for multiple reasons, one of which being I don't want anyone to feel targeted about it or take it the wrong way (like I honestly dont have beef with Al shippers. Gripes, but no beef as I also ship him on occasion).

There was just a sudden burst of frustration I had with it that I think was in part just came from built up frustration from other things. There's things I'd like to have out there, but I don't really think it'd get far or, again, be just taken the wrong way. I don't see a point in posting if people are gonna ignore it, plus it wouldn't change how things are now. If anyone has any thoughts or are curious let me know, but I don't wanna make anyone feel like shit or put a pointless rant out there no one wanted to see. I also wanna keep rants to a minimum as I know people aren't always into that sort of stuff, especially if you don't follow someone for that and you just get an influx of posts of them complaining. And I still want to keep things relatively light hearted around here, at best maybe just some critiques on things here and there.

It's late, I'm on my phone when I should probably just sleep it off, so sleep it off I will.

[viv-hollande]

OK, so the Rako Hardeen Arc is actually in shambles and I hate it now.

No, seriously, hear me out.

I want to make it clear (because Star Wars fans can be Like That™) that I am not coming at this as someone who hates Star Wars, or who hates TCW. This very arc used to be one of my favorites, and it kind of breaks my heart how utterly broken it is. With that out of the way, on with the internet-friendly numbered list.

1. The Jedi Council's plan is so fucking stupid.

Why, in the name of the Force, was this the plan the Jedi went with? Beyond the stuff we'll get into later, this plan comes with the obvious risk of, ya know, killing Obi-Wan Kenobi. Seriously, the Jedi are so lucky that Hardeen went for the torso and not the head, or else they'd be down a Council member and have nothing to show for it. This is such a dumb move that it should have scuppered the entire plot immediately. It's especially stupid because there is an obvious alternative.

Just hire Hardeen to fake the assassination.

I promise you, bounty hunters have taken way weirder assignments, and Hardeen would barely give it a second thought. This not only solves some more problems down the line, but it also stops the Jedi Council from killing Obi-Wan Kenobi accidentally. Speaking of problems...

2. Why do the Jedi even need to fake Obi-Wan's death?

No, seriously.

Surely Obi-Wan takes breaks away from the front for, like, paperwork and meditation. He's a Council member on top of being a General, so he probably has all kinds of Council work that takes him away from the front for periods of time.

Even outside of that, one would expect there to be stretches of time where nobody outside of the GAR knows where Obi-Wan even is. He is a General fighting in a war. Surely the Jedi have heard of operational security. There have to be weeks to months on end where Obi-Wan's location is unknown.

Would it really be so hard to just send the 212th on space-only missions for a few weeks, where nobody would be able to tell if Obi-Wan was present or not? If you're worried about his fighter being absent, just shove Plo Koon or somebody in there and no one will be any the wiser! Even if they pick up on Plo Koon being missing, there's no way that they'll assume that Kel Dor Plo Koon is actually oxygen-breathing Rako Hardeen.

The point of this whole segment is that it should be normal for Obi-Wan to disappear from the public eye for stretches of time, so him being missing for a week or two should not automatically mean that he's undercover disguised as a bounty hunter trying to stop a kidnapping plot against the Chancellor.

3. What is Palpatine's plan?

And yes, the kidnapping is Palpatine's plan. Dooku is the organizer, and Dooku takes orders from Palpatine.

So the end result of the Hardeen Arc is that the deception creates a growing rift between Anakin and the Jedi leading up to RotS. Great. That sounds good, that's something Palpatine would want.

But how does getting kidnapped help with that?

It isn't made clear in the show who exactly came up with the fake assassination plan as a whole, but we do know who came up with the deception part of the plan.

Obi-Wan Kenobi. Not the Chancellor.

Which...makes sense, at least for the Chancellor. The very last thing he would want is Anakin asking Obi-Wan about the plot and Obi-Wan responding, "I had no choice. I was following the Chancellor's orders." This would arguably be an even bigger betrayal than Obi-Wan's in the canon show. Not only is Anakin's relationship with Palpatine more emotionally invested in a way that Anakin's relationship with Obi-Wan isn't allowed to be, but Anakin tells Palpatine everything, including, no doubt, Anakin's deep attachment to Obi-Wan. (And even if Anakin didn't explicitly tell Palpatine, well, he does have eyes and a functioning brain. Anakin isn't exactly subtle.) From Anakin's perspective, it would seem like the Chancellor abused his trust to further some political scheme, which is an outcome that Palpatine cannot risk under any circumstances. It makes sense for Palpatine to avoid touching the deception with a 10-meter pole.

So, even if Palpatine came up with the overall fake assassination plot, the actual emotional impact of the deception has to come from Obi-Wan's decision to deceive Anakin, something which Palpatine has no way of predicting!

So...what's left? I guess Anakin does face off against Dooku at the end of the arc, but he's faced off against him before and will face off against him later under much less convoluted circumstances!

This whole plan makes no sense from Palpatine's angle. It relies too much on variables that he can't control, and the actual result of the arc depends on Obi-Wan making a truly idiotic decision. Without that, there is no deception and thus no rift between the Jedi and Anakin.

My theory is that he got bored playing 3-D chess against himself and arranged the kidnapping plot to spice up his week.

Also, and this is a minor thing, but Palpatine really is banking on the Jedi to save him here. What was his plan if the bounty hunters just decide to ransom him themselves? He can't escape, because then the Jedi will come around asking questions about these bounty hunters that have lightsaber wounds and look like they were fried with evil lightning. If the Jedi failed to rescue him, would he just have to stew in silence as these powerless lowlifes keep him, the greatest Sith Lord in a millennium, trapped in some basement somewhere? This isn't really a big problem, but I do find it funny to thing about. If this did happen it would be peak comedy.

But then again, his plan in RotS involved hoping that Anakin could save him from the Invisible Hand, and we all saw how that nearly went. (Palpatine absolutely shitting himself in the background as Jedi Dumb & Dumber try to land half a ship without getting them all killed is the funniest thing in all of Star Wars.)

4. Why do we even need to deceive Anakin, again?

So the given reason for Anakin's deception is that Anakin's public, emotional reaction to Obi-Wan's death "sold the sniper".

OK, but did it? Hardeen booked it the moment he shot Obi-Wan, so he only could have seen Anakin's reaction to Obi-Wan getting shot. By the time Anakin reacts to Obi-Wan's death, Hardeen is long gone, and I don't see any news-cams that could have captured his reaction to that.

And why would Obi-Wan assume that the sniper would stick around long enough to see Anakin's reaction? Surely, anyone faced with the wrath of a pissed-off Anakin would hightail it in the opposite direction because, ya know, they want to live? Why would you think that, Obi-Wan?

And what is the point of "selling" the assassination to Hardeen anyway? Sure, Hardeen drunkenly brags about killing Obi-Wan in the bar, but he's not exactly gonna go around telling everybody about how he didn't kill a Jedi. And if you need people to see Hardeen boasting about killing Obi-Wan, just have Obi-Wan do it as Hardeen. There's no reason that "selling the sniper" is even necessary.

Also, remember, this whole thing would be unnecessary if the Jedi just hired Hardeen to knowingly fake the assassination in the first place. Just include in the contract that Hardeen has to brag about it to convince the crowd. (Or have Obi-Wan do it.)

OMFG, this arc is in shambles.

I guess if the goal was to sell the Separatists on the assassination, and the assassination was staged in a public place with lots of cameras it might make sense (assuming, again, that the Jedi Council hired Hardeen to fake the shooting so they don't accidentally kill Obi-Wan), although again I ask why Obi-Wan couldn't just pretend to stay in the Jedi Temple for a few weeks, but whatever.

But, they didn't go with the Separatist thing, so no dice.

Conclusion

Oh Force, this arc has more holes in it than a colander. Everyone here is a fucking idiot and they all deserved to die, whether at the hands of the clones, Anakin, or Anakin throwing them down a giant shaft.

Don't revisit your favorite childhood media, it might just turn out to be bad.

Why did you do this to me, Dave Filoni? Why did you kill my childhood?

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

I hate how Helltaker misrepresents the deadly sins, Cerberus, Baphomet and the hell and people praise it even though it's the same shit as Hazbin Brothel and Helluva Shit, while Hooray for Hell is a better representation of what is hell.

[petitprincess1]

the hateboners that the antis have for hazbin and everything related to viv is INSANE. can't scroll through any kind of social media (especially on twitter!) without accidentally stumbling upon the dumbest, most braindead takes. can't make silly little posts about hh or hb without antis flooding in. it's like their entire personality is to hate on viv and her works for some fucking reason

SO SO FUCKING REAL!

That's why I had to leave Twitter. It's just impossible to say even the slightest thing positive about HB and/or HH without the swarms of hate. Like I posted the small clip from the first ep of Hazbin with Adam wanting to be called "Dickmaster" bc I found Charlie's blunt af reply funny, especially since she's usually so perky. That's it. So many fucking QRTs of people either saying how bad or unfunny, commenting about Verbalase, and [insert stupid ass drama here]

And it's not even like I could block them. The moment I blocked 5 accounts there would be, no exaggeration, hundreds of others popping out of nowhere. It got to a point where it was bad for my mental health. If it weren't for HB and HH posting on Twitter, I would have no problem deactivating my account. It's so bad.

Don't even get me started on TikTok, even some of the fans there can be a bit much 😮‍💨

While Tumblr has hateful shit, it's not nearly as bogged down as Twitter is. Plus, I find so much more love here than I ever have on Twitter. (Not to say no one was nice to me. It just was a lot of hate that it was hard to separate the good from the bad.)

I'm not saying that they can't dislike Vivzie or anyone. It's just mind-boggling how antis/crits will literally HARASS ppl for watching a cartoon, even if that person also has misgivings for Viv. Which some fans do and that's perfectly fine. It's almost like separating art from the artist isn't hard.

I think it's even stranger when fans often echo the SAME CRITICISMS that they're saying, and yet....we dick ride Viv?? Um...sure....why not....

At this point, I just mainly say positive shit out of spite (and genuine love for the shows ofc). I'm just so done.

[anonymouscheeses]

GUYS TELL ME THIS IS REAL. I JST SAW A PIC OD VIVZIE IN FRONY OF A MELANIE TRILOGY TOUR BACKDROP. I MEAN ITS VIV, THE CREATOR OF HAZBITCH HOETEL AND HELLUVA BOOBS BUT ITS FUN TO KNOW THIS IDFK. I HOPR THIS COMMENT IS ACTUALLU TRUE THOUGH BECAUSE FAAAAACKKK I LOVE THAT SOO MUCH. VAGGIE IS A CRYBABY RAAAA 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 RVEN IG ITS NOT CANON ITS SUCH A FUN HEADCANON 💜💜 IDK WHAT TO SAY I JST LOVE VAGGIE SMM EGSUSIODOE

Istg if anyone says "ugh, now I don't like Melanie martinez.... 😒" I'm going to touch you

[chaifootsteps]

Do Hazbin fans recognise you can appreciate the concept of telling a story about restorative justice while still being critical of how Vivziepop chose to handle that theme in her shows?

To me, that's one of the most disappointing things about HH, that it was looking like it was going to be a story about restorative justice and instead it's a story about...I don't even know.

How you don't need to change yourself at all, but also you're a disgusting person if you take drugs, and also how rape is funny and your fault.

[twilghtkoo]

📬 . . . hello ! (>_<)

teases for upcoming works ! i’ve been a bit ia bc of school but inspo keeps flowing thru me and i want to try and get these out by this week !! i hope u guys are doing well :3

[drinksglue]

Find it very interesting that some of the same people who claim they're "proship aligned" and acknowledge that sex-negativity is bad are also the same ones who think that Hazbin Hotel is problematic for "romanticizing/fetishizing drugs and trafficking"

not liking it is one thing but "this thing is problematic and bad and the author is a horrible person because the story romanticizes this thing I don't like" always has been, and always will be, anti rhetoric.

[doodle17]

A peice of me dies whenever I see Richard Horvitz hanging out with Vivziepop THAT SHOULD BE ME NOT HER

[ellieputellas]

which one do you guys want first

viv miedema x reader fluff wherein viv has a huge crush on reader who is the mancity photographer but has no idea how to confess (kinda a prologue to jealousy, jealousy)

jule brand x reader fluff/angst wherein you meet your boyfriend’s girl best friend jule who seemed jealous of u and has a crush on ur boyfriend but actually has a crush on YOU

something else (send it to my ask!)

[twobellsilence]

Can't believe I unknowingly made Ray's sleazeball of a father share the same last name as one of my dearest mutuals 💀

[vennw]

JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING A SILLY JOKE OR MEME DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN POST PATREON ONLY ART HOLY SHIT WHAT ARE YOU DOING

[eyeballth3vampire]

Ok so, since I keep seeing no one talk abt her uh… don’t mind me, I’mma just rant abt Cherri bomb and stuff bc why not >:]

Cherri Bomb imo, should’ve had A LOT more to her design and I mean A LOT

Now although Cherri’s design is not as bad as the others (well her Design is decent ‘ish but just rarely), ever since I first saw her design I always felt underwhelmed by her design especially now.

There isn’t really much to say other than the usual colors blend in problem and such

But imo I find this redesign to be quite lazy because this literally just her design in the Addict Video, and I just wonder, why? Could viv not think of anything creative when redesigning her after the addict video? I ask bc there is literally so many ways viv could’ve made Cherri’s design to look very cool and unique! Like yea, I know this is viv who we’re talking Abt and her creativity can only go oh so far BUT STILL!!!

“But Kat! What could viv add/change Cherri’s design to make her more ‘unique’?? After all you can’t change perfection-“

DON’T. TEST ME.

Like I said there are literally MANY GODDAMN WAYS viv could’ve made her design more unique! Infact, I can literally share some ideas I have / things that would’ve made her design better

1. Literally changing her Outfit.

Like do I even have to explain????? Her outfit is absolutely hideous and imo doesn’t suit her like AT ALL. Her Outfit is literally a bunch of ripped clothes with the most atrocious colors I’ve ever seen. Her outfit would’ve honestly been more cooler if she had Punk attire! It would Honestly fit with her personality really well! Like REALLY REALLY well! And if viv doesn’t know how to design characters with punk attire then there are LITERALLY endless amounts of references of punk outfits that viv could use when she was designing Cherri and these images are not just any references of punk fashion but rather punk fashion that was LITERALLY FROM THE 1980S!!! Y’know, THE ERA SHE DIED IN??

HECK, THIS OLD REDESIGN I DID OF CHERRI (that I plan on updating after I finish making this post with a bunch of other redesigns I’m doing) CAN LITERALLY BE AN EXAMPLE ON HOW PUNK CAN FIT CHERRI’S PERSONALITY REALLY WELL!!

LITERALLY THESE ALT OUTFITS SHE WORE IN HER LONG GONE INSTA ACCOUNT ARE ALSO GREAT EXAMPLES OF THAT TOO!

If viv used one of these outfits as her main one that would’ve been fine too! Like yea I would at first question why viv chose one of these outfits but other than that I wouldn’t be as pissy as I am with what we got bc it fits her character.

2. Make her have doll elements or som idk

Ok. I know what y’all are gonna say.

“Kat. Why do you want Cherri Bomb to be a doll? Velvet’s literally right here.”

Uh huh, I know that but like hear me out on this

I feel like Cherri being a literal doll could honestly work imo! Heck, if Cherri was a doll, the weird anatomy she has can literally go in viv’s favor! Since dolls most of the time don’t really have realistic bodies, like literally look at this thing if ya don’t believe me

But jokes aside, I do genuinely think it would be an awesome idea! I mean there are literally many dolls out there (even dolls from her era too), that viv can use as references if Cherri was gonna be a doll too! Cherri can literally be a punk rebellious version of Barbie for all I care (I mean like cmon are you gonna tell me that wouldn’t be so cool?)

She doesn’t even have to be specifically a doll either if viv didn’t want make her one, she can literally be an action figure too! (Unfortunately I can’t show anymore images bc I’m a the limit for adding photos in one post but hopefully you get idea)

3. GIVE HER A DIFFERENT FUCKING COLOR PALETTE FOR FUCKS SAKES!!11!1!

Blah blah blah Cherri’s palette as mentioned before in this post sucks!

But the thing that bugs me most in her color palette is literally the gradients in Cherri’s hair

Like every time I saw Cherri pop on screen in the hh pilot (and I do apologize if I sound dumb), the gradients on her hair would change ALOT to the point it kinda felt inconsistent…

The only time the gradients in Cherri’s hair felt consistent was in the addict video but that was only bc viv had to LITERALLY SIMPLIZE her hair so the animators wouldn’t have an hard time animating her god damn hair (kinda wished she did the same with the rest of the designs but oh well)

And that’s all I could think of (for now), if anything I can prob just make reblog to add on to this post, Uh Ty for reading this critical rant post thingy I have going on, I’mma go to bed it’s literally 3am for me rn at the time of making this and uh idk bye ig