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They’re friends to me. Riyo lends him her makeup+gets him clothes+buys him and his favourite vode treats, and Fox helps her get blackmail on political oponents+writing clone rights bills.
Individual “frames” and the original:
#not ship art#to me their non existsnt dynamic isnt romantic its more of a besties + siblings thing#like fox is her weird uncle/brother and they contrast eachother comically#though as long as riyo’s an adult i dont really mind it#since we dont have a canon age for her#anyway#my art#tcw fox#riyo chuchi#meme redraw#tcw#star wars#clone wars#digital art#fox looking 45 as a 20 smth year old is a personal little joy
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i hate the concept of platonic and romantic as a binary i hate the concept of platonic and romantic as a sliding scale of "less" to "more" i hate the concept of platonic and romantic as the only two options i hate the concept of platonic and romantic as significantly different things i hate the concept of platonic and romantic as all encompassing i hate the concept of platonic and romantic as the two halves of a shallow concept of love that doesn't actually encompass anything at all i think we need to overhaul every popular conception about "types" of love so we can talk about things that are real and true for once
#in conclusion. alloromantics stfu up about love challenge#hate using the term platonic so much actually. cause even if it has a definition that is what it Should mean#you know that people don't actually think about it that way.#you say 'platonic' and you might Mean an all-encompassing love. but how it's interpreted is shorthand for 'just friends'#so like. the word platonic isn't Really for me is it :|#platonic gets presented like a consolation prize for aro people no matter where you turn#but fundamentally rn it comes from a concept of platonic and romantic as the two kinds of love#where platonic is for family and friends and nothing More.#and romantic is for the relationships that overhaul all else#so 'aros can still feel platonic love!' ok. what if it's not platonic as you know it though.#'oh then it's romantic!' k but it's not romantic either. will your framework explode if i say that#'aros can still feel platonic love!' why do you say that like it's a second-best option and expect me to identify with it...#again. platonic might Actually mean smth i experience. but it won't be Heard that way. do you get what i'm saying#i don't experience 'platonic blurring into romantic' cause i will never feel romantic love actually. those lines are still blurring though#ummmmm in conclusion. killing and biting#aromantic#aromanticism#aroace#arospec#talking
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what I'm learning is that MXTX series really have ☆*: .。The Range。.:*☆ and that my first impressions often don't survive for very long...
MDZS, initial impression: ooh revived necromancer that everyone fears, this is going to be dark and revenge-fuelled
MDZS, subsequent impression: these are Silly Lil Guys off on a romcom murder mystery
SVSSS first impression: nerd who got isekai'd into a shitty novel, crybaby puppy dog imprints on him
SVSSS subsequent impression: how many times now has the love interest tortured the main character? should I start a tally?
(i've only just finished SVSSS bk2, please no spoilers!!)
#mdzs#svsss#wangxian#bingqiu#wei wuxian#lan wangji#shen qingqiu#luo binghe#wwx#lwj#sqq#lbh#to be clear this is something i LOVE about these books#the fact that mxtx can really balance tragedy and humour so well makes them really addictive#the contrast really makes the comedic/romantic highs all the higher and the suffering all the worse#however svsss really took me by surprise xD the ONLY thing i've seen about it from my dashboard is Big Crying Eyes Luo Binghe#i kind of expected a Pure Comedy#so i was Unprepared when the blood parasites came into play#into it though 👀👀👀👀#i'm so sorry sqq i'm doing you so dirty in that gif but all i knew was ''isekai''#and i have a very biased view of what isekai protags are like 😂😂😂#also you guys have LIED to me i don't think i've seen lbh cry EVEN ONCE where are the big sad puppy eyes????#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#scum villain#my art
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everywhere i go i see his face
#og post#no matter where i go. no matter how far i stray from mcyt. i can never truly leave#not that im trying but you know#last life smp#trafficblr#bdoubleo100#ethubs#does this count as shipping. its just a line from last life im not really adding any romantic interpretations to it#i did tag ethubs though#yeah whatever#trafficshipping
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very strongly feel that moist/adora is the only actual romantic relationship terry pratchett ever wrote.
#what if you were an inveterate liar in love with the first woman whose principles you couldn't compromise#the fact that her principles are nonsensical sort of strangely skewed and radical does not affect this at all.#......I'm reading making money which is surprisingly robust; I remember it being weaker back in the day;#but it's got the plotting of thud with 40s film patter and I like it very much.#there's a whole scene where moist introduces adora to hubert; the pale undersocialized economist who lives in the basement#and she comments essentially ''why are only men like this?''#and moist carefully doesn't point out that ''earns a tiny wage for golems'' ''puts up with vandalism and violence for golems''#''camps in the wilderness investigating a millennia-old song she can't hear for golems''#is different but not really that different. it's very romantic.#(......to be fair sam/sybil gets more robust as it goes on too; it's just thin as paper for a bit.#sybil spends a couple of books being pretty unhappy.#I do find this compelling though; it's just not as straightforward as liar4corkscrewy rebel smoker.)#discworld
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I did it.... cause I kinda... want to overwhelm him with love or something cringe like that
(Color by @/superyoumna Killer by @/Rahafwabas if they ever saw this though i would shoot myself in the foot out of embarrassment)
#this can be platonic or romantic on colorkiller's end...#toffeesdoodles#main....tagging....here#color sans#killer sans#color spectrum duo#colorkiller#ill tag both shrug it can be either#sans x y/n#color sans x y/n#seconr post under this tag??? pog#i actually really like how this looks though#almost so much so im not embarrassed at all#almost#ibispaint#ibispaintx#*second
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Here's that Molly animatic I've been working on <3 !! I thought that this song fit him a little too well so I had to do something with it :)
[Here's the Youtube link for anyone that wants to watch it there]
thumbnail posting for Ant <3
#critical role#the mighty nein#mollymauk#mollymauk tealeaf#jester lavorre#yasha nydoorin#caleb widogast#lestera#kingsley tealeaf#caduceus clay#I know the others made appearances but they weren't really major figures in the animatic so I'm not gonna tag them#mighty nein spoilers#quillnart#I packed in a LOT of little details#hope you enjoy!!#(do I tag this as widomauk? i tried sneaking them in there a little)#(can be interpreted as non-romantic ofc tho)#(anyways I got a fun little idea for another mitski animatic involving essek#can't guarantee that one will be next though...)#(I have so many animatic scripts waiting to be drawn. rip me)#quillenimated
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I’m pretty sure Mike and El are the only couple in the show that don’t have shared interests.
Lucas and Max: Arcade games
Dustin and Suzie: Science/Technology
Jonathan and Nancy: Documenting life (Through Photography/Journalism)
Joyce and Hopper: Investigation (Hop was a cop, Joyce is Joyce) +caring for their kids
Mike and El are never given any interest that they both have and do together. Their relationship isn’t even given much volume beyond their trauma bonding. They actually went out of their way to have El dismissing Mike’s interests and only have El gain her own when she’s away from Mike.
With every other couple we have scenes of their shared interests adding to their relationship. Scenes that prove that their dynamic is rooted in a real, not-purely-physical connection.
There is one other couple who didn’t have shared interests… (*cough* Steve and Nancy *cough* who are broken up *cough*).
Mike and Will by default have a lot of shared interests. They’d be the only best friends to lovers in the show (which is actually crazy in a show with so many couples and friendships). DnD, despite being the root of the party itself, is specifically tied to these two in an interesting way. They’ve used dnd a few times as text above a more romantic subtext, which I feel like deserves its own post.
(I feel like it’s worth noting that technically they have Art (writing and painting), but Mike’s interest in writing has never been specifically confirmed in the show, so I’m not counting that.)
I’d be really interested in seeing canon byler having an isolated interest in season 5 that goes beyond subtext. Even if it’s still dnd, just isolated.
#byler#byler endgame#anti mileven#i may be one of the few people who never shipped milkvan#its always felt like it was trying so hard to be romantic that it just felt shallow#just to be clear im not hating on anyone who has ever or still does ship them#to each their own#all the possibilities for the byler shared interests though#theyre so cute stop#they could make comics together#i feel like st is really pushing how important it is to be friends with your partner#(and how harmful forced conformity is)#unfortunately i couldnt include robin and vickie cause theyre not canon yet#i actually cant wait to see their dynamic fleshed out in s5
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Hot take but there shouldn't be shipping in the mouthwashing fandom. Anyway goodnight
#ik i can't stop anyone and you can dosagree with me#it just throws me off bc the source material is really...well#dark!#but yeah you can ignore me if you disagree#not saying you can't portay romantic relationships at one point#just imo i think that any relationship post-crash is kinda weird...#especially between canon characters#ro whatever you want though idc#please ignore me i am tired#might add on amd clarify things later#please be respectful#ship negativity#shipping neg#ship neg#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#joonebugg rambles
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Song of Songs, Sylvie Baumgartel
#quotes#quote#poetry#poem#Sylvie Baumgartel#id in alt text#I remember having mixed feelings about this last time I picked it up lmao#it is a book length poem about a kinky relationship where it immediately mentioned piss kinks and master/slave dynamics#there are some really romantic lines though
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Echo curls up in the window seat of the apartment Fox has somehow acquired for them. It’s laden with the ugliest throw pillows known to Coruscant and a few other worlds. It doesn’t matter, each one was carefully chosen by their commander and that makes them the best pillows Echo has ever seen. He’s got a real flimsy book held up with one hand but he hasn’t looked down at the pages since Fox’s arrival.
Fives sidles up to Fox with a happy hum before he takes over unbuckling armor. “Well aren’t you a pretty sight?”
Fox doesn’t rise to the bait or try to slap Five’s hands away. Visible emotions aren’t really their partner’s thing but something flickers across his expression. He looks between Fives and then Echo before looking back at Fives. “Are we dating?”
Of all the questions…
Fives’s immediate reassurance breaks off as he doubles over with the force of his coughing.
That leaves Echo to take over. He half stands before he realizes that maybe Fox wants the space—that their commander wasn’t on the same page after all. Instead he stays put and makes sure he catches Fox’s gaze. “We were under that impression, yes, but if it’s not what you want then nothing needs to change.”
“Oh.” Fox says.
He doesn’t jump to reassure them that he wants them in return but that’s alright. Any immediate answer Fox could give wouldn’t be true. It’s honestly a point of pride that Fox trusts them enough to tell the truth.
Meanwhile, Fives stops dramatically choking on his own spit long enough to go back to helping with Fox’s armor. He isn’t immediately pushed away, so that’s also a good sign.
Echo watches from his window seat and hopes.
There’s not much physical difference between Fox’s blacks and their own, but it still soothes a possessive nerve to see Fox replace his dirty blacks with Echo’s. It’s his favorite set, the one with a little tear down the side mended with a decorative stitch in blue.
Fives scoops up the dirty blacks and scuffed armor to do maintenance on in the other room, shooting Echo a sharp look as he does. That is where he deviates from routine, pausing this time before he kisses Fox’s cheek to give their commander time to pull away.
Fox does no such thing. He leans into the touch, tipping his forehead to rest against Five’s. Then he’s pulling away to drop onto the seat next to Echo. “So if you thought we were dating, I’m guessing you’ve already filed the paperwork?”
That draws Echo up short. Sure he doesn’t abide by the regs as strictly as he used to, but surely he would have known if there was paperwork. “For dating?”
“Mm.” Fox isn’t looking at Echo. “We’re in different battalions. I’m head over the military police force. That’s more than enough to be a conflict of interest.”
“Fuck. We can get it done tonight if you…” Echo breaks off when he catches a telltale amused twitch of Fox’s nose. He shoves their commander with a bright laugh. “You bastard! Who taught you a sense of humor?”
Fox’s lips tip up ever so slightly at the corners in the closest he ever comes to a genuine smile. “I found these parasites in the drunk tank. I think their bad habits are starting to rub off on me.”
#commander fox#arc trooper fives#arc trooper echo#fives/fox/echo#Fox really wasn’t sure they were dating#he’s not displeased by the news though#I’m picturing Rex asking Fox about his boyfriends#and Fox being like ?? you mean the guys who I stole an apartment for and who#feed me while I lay in bed between them and sometimes we kiss?#I’m pretty sure it’s just a fling#Fox is a very raunchy asexual with limited romantic experience#it’s okay#Fives and Echo are prepared to fix that.
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Instruction on Courtship
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#lan jingyi#lan sizhui#wei wuxian#a-qing#(In case ppl are wondering: LJY and LSZ changed their hairstyles to get into character).#I love this scene very much its so silly and sweet#a-qing is WAITING though guys. Come ON#Lan Jingyi definitely is the type to read romance novels and be a deep romantic at heart. And of course vehemently deny it.#But the truth of the matter is that wwx and lwj don't follow those typical romance tropes (at least not at the moment)#wwx and lwj split up because they *know* the other one is perfectly capable on their own! It's about acknowledgement and respect.#The original line was “Why. I trust him and his skills” which is more accurate to the Audio Drama. Because that's the core of what makes#Wangxian so good! Trust!! Despite years of miscommunication- there is deep trust between these two!#They can and will delegate tasks because they are an effective team!#If you cannot trust the person you say you love and care about - you have killed that relationship. (Genuine relationship advice).#Add one more to the 'retelling of wwx's story from other's perspective' counter.#I know that wangxian get more lovey later on but I really feel like mxtx was trying to make a point here. The more interesting dynamics#are not one's that rehash lines and tropes from dime a dozen romance books (sorry boys)
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Warrior Nun: Beatrice’s journey reconciling the mission with her love for Ava was beautiful to behold
#Warrior Nun#Avatrice#Ava Silva#Sister Beatrice#When Bea lashes out at Ava#it's 90% because she is angry at herself for letting her feelings for Ava cloud her judgment#and yet she can't deny to herself after Ava's fall just how profoundly she cares for Ava#but they still had a mission to complete#they still needed to defeat Adriel#In the end though#post-kiss#we see Bea fully accept that she will prioritize saving Ava's life#above everything else that used to rank more highly#like the safekeeping of the halo#like the safety of the whole world really#So saying I love you back isn't just the completion of a romantic gesture#but an endpoint to this struggle that we've seen the whole season#God it is so profound and beautiful I can barely stand it
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couple more drawings under cut + yappage just so its less take up spacey haha
anyway on the topic of whiteboard and tv head heres more (im going insane) using I.V.Y's design for them because, they singlehandedly got me into painter and then i deadass forgor that the way they drew painter wasnt a canon design LAMOOO (i was literally jawdropped going through painter art 5s to see if i can find ivys tag on here and seeing that people in fact draw him differnetly bc,. its not canon HEKOFOOP ME i literally even SAW their post abt how they had 3 different headcanon ways to draw them and i ws like yeah thats cool i love art and then forgot immediantly) anyway im hungry and want cereal so idk someone holler if I.V.Y has a tumblr i can tag but either way also watch this animatic from them bc ive watched it religiously every single day and am now obsessed with the song too (this is a cry for help) also play pressure if you havent or if you have revisit it!! its goober
#pressure#pressure roblox#sebastian solace#sebastian pressure#painter#painter pressure#p.ai.nter pressure#p.ai.nter x sebastian#painter x sebastian#i actually kind of like shcoked myself by being super into them as more than besties MALMO??#like i swear 5h id have not drawn them kissing idk where this came from#i dont mind either way though besties or more than besites theyre both goober together i love them#roblox pressure#and i just realized days later that ive been drawing sebastians 3rd arm on the wrong side dont look at me#maybe i shouldve used. references for him sooner. HEHLEPME#ive just been deadass drawing him from memory i feel isnane#they could be read as platonic from me as well i hear that theres a shortage of platonic them#other than that one specific one of them kissing LMAOMSMF i really dont have a preference bwtween romantic/platonic them so
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See, I think Charles’ annoyance and frustration with the Cat King really was just pure protectiveness and not any kind of jealousy - it’s understandable, because Edwin is not telling him what happened even though something clearly did, which is not typical for them. Edwin doesn’t usually hide things like this! Of course he’s worried!
Charles’ reaction to Monty, on the other hand, is difficult to explain in a way that isn’t jealousy. You could say he’s being protective again, but Charles shows no sign of distrust in Monty, and had no idea of who Monty was or that he might betray them - he was actually very chill with him, except in a select few specific scenes. You could say he just doesn’t like him because he got brushed off during their first meeting, but not only does that not seem like Charles at all, it also doesn’t make sense, since, again, in most instances, Charles is genuinely friendly and is happy when Monty compliments him and seems to have come around to liking him (it completely flies over his head that this is a petty jab at Edwin on Monty’s part but oh well hahaha). You could say it changes up their status quo a bit and that bothers Charles. I do think this bothers him a bit, but I think, unlike Edwin, Charles’ fear and frustration here is directed more at situations (the Cat King whisking him away for several hours, as an example) than others. He’s sociable and likes being able to talk to new people. There’s absolutely no way he’d begrudge Edwin doing the same - and he doesn’t… with Niko. Edwin and Niko hit it off and become very close and that never bothers Charles at all. He’s incredibly endeared to her, just like the rest, and for the most part, he’s chill with Monty too, and smiles pretty knowingly when Edwin confesses to him having awakened some feelings. The only exceptions, where he shows definite annoyance, are when Monty first shows up and gets really in Edwin’s personal space to show him the astrology chart he made, and when Edwin is so sucked into the book Monty gave him that he doesn’t hear that Charles is talking to him, to which he annoyedly says that they seem to have been “spending a lot of time together”.
You could say he’s unused to having anyone get in Edwin’s personal space like that, but, again, Niko. She’s very tactile with him and he doesn’t seem to mind all that much; they spend time together watching things. If it was just someone getting close with Edwin in general, not only would that be weirdly possessive for the character, but it would also mean he would show discomfort with anyone getting close, I think. Does Charles see Monty as more of a potential threat than Niko, seeing as he knows her and her personality and doesn’t know Monty? Well, maybe, but again, Charles shows no sign of distrusting Monty at all.
Monty is a boy. Okay. So something about seeing Edwin so close to a boy that is not him, getting lost in thought over something this boy gave him, really rubs Charles the wrong way. Charles appears to catch on just as quickly as anyone else that there is something (or it looks like something) between Edwin and Monty. He is not surprised when Edwin comes out to him in episode 6, and in fact, seems to have just been waiting for him to verbalize it. He smiles and is not bothered at all by Edwin showing (what he thinks is) a romantic interest in Monty - he just doesn’t like it when Monty clearly shows a romantic interest in Edwin. Um. Well. Well.
Charles is jealous. I really don’t know what else to say.
Look, when I first watched this show, I actually didn’t want them to end up together romantically - I love the idea of one having fallen in love with another who does not reciprocate and the two of them still loving each other just as much. That Edwin’s confession made them closer instead of making things awkward is such a beautiful outcome to this build up and I absolutely love it. However. On my two rewatches, I caught a lot more little details, and I think it would be very strange if the show did not follow up on this. That, plus the deliberate quality of these “jealousy” moments where the camera focuses on him, Charles’ Orpheus coding throughout the show, the fact that Edwin’s arc was far more about realizing his feelings for Charles specifically than just coming to terms with his sexuality, and that even the actors admit that Charles’ response to the confession kind of left things open, it really seems to me like the path leads to a romantic endgame for them, or at the very least, that this possibility will be explored in more depth.
**This is just my reading of it. Please do not use this post as a gotcha for anyone who loves them as a platonic duo or people who really love Crystal and Charles together (because let’s face it, they’re super cute too). I’m just doing my rambles. As per usual.
#listen this got really long and I’m sorry but I wanted to be sure I covered all my bases because#I flat out hate the old argument of ‘it (romance) is the only possible explanation!’ with regards to strong bonds#because it so often invalidates strong platonic expressions of love#but… *gestures above*#they’re going to need to address this at some point I think#I really hope though that if the relationship becomes more romantic#that this does not happen in season 2 but in season 3 or something#make it a good build and emphasize the importance of their existing platonic bond#I want their bond to continue to change and grow closer via their friendship first before evolving into romantic tension :)#(also I have faith in these writers but I’ll always be worried about what happens to Crystal with all this. pls don’t cast her aside…)#the smart thing would be to have Crystal have more of the main plot action and Charles more of the feelings arc#for season 2. that’s what I’m hoping#not just any romance or jealousy for Charles but also feelings around his family and dad and his wants and fears and all that#storyrambles#this got away from me again haha#should I use my analysis tag? does this count??? …I’m using it. ->#call me ace detective the way I am ace. and also a detective.#dead boy detectives#I also love the idea of a canon gay couple in an overall queer narrative because that’s beautiful#please I want it to happen#charles rowland#edwin payne#payneland#dbda meta#dbda spoilers
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Tuvok and Kathryn and the time Kathryn destroyed the timeline get Tuvok back.
/I Swear Somewhere This Works - Trista Mateer/
#voy#yeah..#i have so many thoughts#about tuvok and janeway and their friendship#a lot of focus is put on how janeway destroyed the endgame timeline to get /seven/ back and I think it's forgotten a lot of the time that#she destroyed the timeline for tuvok too#it was tuvok AND seven AND chakotay#she had lost them all#i have more of these web weaving type things coming for tuvok and janeway btw#cause i have so many thoughts#and feelings#trek thoughts#janeway's tunnel vision devotion to those she loves is wild#she was willing to destroy YEARS of lives that people had built just to get tuvok + seven + chakotay back#not even mentioning that her other crewmates had built lives too#but she told herself she was doing what was best for all of them#when really it was what was best for her probably#i support her though :)#i love her and tuvok's absolutely batshit ride or die attitudes towards each other#anwyays#i lvoe them#and they make me cry#kathryn janeway#tuvok#kathryn janeway x tuvok#janeway/tuvok#janeway x tuvok#oh also you can read this as platonic or romantic or queer platonic or a secret fourth thing that they seem to be#i believe in pretty much all interpretations tho i am a queer platonic/secret fourth thing truther at my heart#voyager
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