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dc characters as shit me and my friends have said part 3 bc my friends and I say insane shit
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Steph: wait so Jason was born ONE MONTH before 9/11
dick: yep
Steph: heh fitting
dick: wtf
Steph: I mean he IS the second robin
dick:
Steph: oh my god they hit the second Robin!
dick: does this make Tim the pentagon
Steph: yes
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(texting, after Damian starts dating Jon)
Tim: texting ur boyfrieennnnndd?
Damian: kys
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Tim: in chem we’re talking abt nuclear reactions and its actually fascinating Clark: I LOVE NUCLEAR REACTIONS
Clark: I HAD A BRIEF OBSESSION WITH NUCLEAR FUSION IN FIFTH GRADE
Tim: THEYRE SO FASCINATING
Clark: I KNOW RIGHT THAT STUFFS SO COOL
*proceeds to nerd out about nuclear reactions*
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Texting (trust me on this duo okay):
Damian: today’s first art victim is your boy
damian: in full red hood gear for once
Roy: OMG YAY MY GUY
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Damian: my history homework is don’t do heroin
Jon: real
Damian: if you couldn’t guess we’re talking about the opium war
Jon: I have no idea what that is
Damian: the opium war???
Jon: I know the opioid crisis???
Damian: Where Britain shipped a shit ton of opium to China to get addicted to make money off of them?
Jon: they what
Damian: did- did you not know about that???
Jon: this is your reminder that I have a midwestern public school history education
Damian: right
Jon: they do not like to talk about white peoples wrongs I fear
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Dick: me saying I can be subtle and then proceeding to do the most unsubtle thing ever
Wally: lmao can you ever be subtle
dick: I can!!!
dick: trust!!!
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Jason: if you’re gonna do illegal shit at least be cool about it
Jason: why do people who do illegal shit have no whimsy
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#for the Jon one it was originally southern public school education#My ass has NOT been to the midwest#Much less Kansas#dcu#batfam incorrect quotes#incorrect quotes#jason todd#tim drake wayne#tim drake#batfamily#batfam#the batfamily#jayroy#roy harper#damian wayne#damian al ghul#dick grayson#wally west#birdflash#dickwally#jon kent#clark kent#the kents#stephanie brown#red hood#robin#the robins#damijon
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✨ Jon ✨ and ✨ hands ✨
#tma#the magnus archives#the magnus archive fanart#tma fanart#jonathan simms#tma jon#jonathan sims#jonny boy#this is actually a wip but i worked way too much on it not to post it lol#i made him less crunchy this time
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It was low-key so hot when in the second batman live action, Cillian Crane said "I said my drugs would take you places, I never said they would be places you'd want to go"
I need Btaa scarecrow to say precisely those lines now because he is essentially Cillian crow just fan fitted to be more accurate.
(Huge ass massive character rant in the tags lol, I LOVE JON SO SO SO SO SO MUCH)
#im actually really enjoying seeing all the different faces and behavioural manurisms of the different Cranes.#they are all so unique from each other despite being all the same guy#btaa sounds like he actually does his own drugs in his free time and actively promotes drug misuse to children#WHICH IS LITTERALY CRAZY#codotverse has given me an even deeper view into Scarecrows character making scarecrow a split personality front to protect Jon#showing clearly the severity of his childhood trauma to where his brain created scarecrow to defend him from more psychological harm#Which is so awesome how Codot applied actual real life psychology and diagnosis#to explain Jons actions and show Scarecrow as not just a mask but a physical part of himself#with a mind and actions of his own that he justifies through wanting to protect Jon#can you tell I love Codot Jon#then there was Mof Jon who bless him was bullied for things completely out of his control#ofcourse Jons actions are still unforgivable and evil unjustifiable acts if terrorism but its the complexity of his character that makes me#love him so much.#Jonathan crane#the scarecrow#cillian scarecrow#nolanverse#codotverse#codot Jonathan crane#codot scarecrow#btaa scarecrow#btaa#Honourable mention goes to btas Jon#less justifiable bro I love you but you were straight up just psychologically torturing folk#batman the audio adventures#btas#btas scarecrow#batman the animated series
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“Peter Lukas gets sent back to the regency era” “Jonathan Sims gets sent back to the regency era” valid points valid points but i raise you
Tim Stoker gets sent back to the regency era
#Timelias#guys c’mon it would be sooo fun#Tim would probably *hate* Elias. Maybe try to take the circus down sooner since#the Grimaldi was first like a thing in the very early 1800s so it could be possible for Tim to just kill Nikola on sight#And I bet Jonah would be so fascinated by him. Like oh my god this man 1) is probably from the future 2) Is HOT AS FUCK 3) has sooo much#knowledge about the fears and FOUR) Can apparently kill the things?? and is confident while doing so??#Jonah would love him sm#Also while I don’t think Jon or Peter could fix him I firmly believe that Tim 100% could#Like I’m pretty sure it was actually tweeted once that Tim could’ve redeemed Elias by fucking him nasty#but fr though I do think Tim would actually stop him from becoming as bad as he did because while Jon is passive in the voyeuristic sense an#d also and avatar and peter just couldn’t care less about stopping bad things Tim is wholey human and still dedicating himself to taking#action against the fears and *succeeding* and since I think a lot of Jonah magnus’s less than ideal actions stemmed from his feelings of#helplessness in a world out to get him I think that would be a great anchor for him.#Also I’m just super soft for any kind of Timelias sooo <333#Elias Bouchard#Jonah Magnus#TMA#Tim Stoker#oh also Tim was canonically fascinated by Robert Smirke so he’d probably have some knowledge about the 1700-1800s through osmosis gotten#while researching#the magnus archives
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Any chance of you hosting another Batfam secret santa this year?
im currently running a MHA secret santa on my sideblog (peep @kacchanot-fucking-deal-with-this ), and alas, it is taking up much of my time... but! I am thinking about hosting a New Years Bang! for Batman/Batfam content where most/all of the work will be posted on ao3 in a collection for the event (and all linked on tumblr too!)
i want to do a soft interest check in the next week or so and then i'll probably make a form for everyone to fill out and sign up!
(if you've never heard of a fandom bang! it's when a bunch of people get together and create a bang in the fandom by mass creating fanart and fanfics!!! they're a fairly traditional event in fandom spaces)
#i've always wanted to host a bang bc they're fairly low effort for me and require soooo much less coordination compared to gift exchanges#im still recovering from the halloween zines i hosted and am still putting together#but yeah id like to do something for the batfam fandom for new years!#batman#batfam#bruce wayne#batfamily#jason todd#dick grayson#tim drake#dcu#damian wayne#jaydick#jaytim#idk i forget character names and ships so fast#superman#superbat#clark kent#timkon#conner kent#kon el kent#kon kent#jonathan kent#jon kent#damijon#uhhhhh#timbern#cassandra cain#casssteph#stephcass
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One of the things that sticks out to me about Jon is just how active and readily available his kindness is. And it’s funny because the fandom at large considers Jon to be someone with a good heart, but he usually isn’t specifically linked to kindness as a key character trait even though he should be. Because every now and then, we have moments where Jon is just so proactive in how good he is to people. Not like it’s a performance, but it’s just something that comes to him naturally. And it doesn’t have to be big things either because sometimes, it’s really the little things that matter. Take this interaction with Tyrion for example:
“Boy,” a voice called out to him. Jon turned.
Tyrion Lannister was sitting on the ledge above the door to the Great Hall, looking for all the world like a gargoyle. The dwarf grinned down at him. “Is that animal a wolf?”
“A direwolf,” Jon said. “His name is Ghost.” He stared up at the little man, his disappointment suddenly forgotten. “What are you doing up there? Why aren’t you at the feast?”
“Too hot, too noisy, and I’d drunk too much wine,” the dwarf told him. “I learned long ago that it is considered rude to vomit on your brother. Might I have a closer look at your wolf?”
Jon hesitated, then nodded slowly. “Can you climb down, or shall I bring a ladder?”
- Jon I, AGOT
First, it’s quite adorable how readily he strikes up conversation with Tyrion, a man he’s just met. The hint of curiosity mixed with concern when he asks Tyrion why he isn’t at the feast is cute.
But it’s the last line that stands out to me. “Shall I bring a ladder?” Because he could’ve just said “shall I call for a ladder?” but he didn’t. The latter suggests that someone else will do the brunt of the work. It’s still kind, because he’d still be looking out for Tyrion, but it puts him in a passive role. Instead, he means to get the ladder himself. He will look for it, bring it, and position it for Tyrion to use. So now his kindness is very much active. His empathy is on full display here as well because he acknowledges that Tyrion may need assistance and takes the initiate to provide it.
This seems like such a silly thing to get hung up on but I love this small moment because it provides a lot of depth to a character who is meant to serve as the series’ traditional hero - a role that is often times “good” by default without exploring how or why. Anyone who’s read Jon I knows that he has spent the chapter being a raging jerk. But GRRM uses this moment to remind us that despite being a moody, asshole-ish, 14 yr old boy, Jon is a really good kid at the end of the day. He’s is kind and he’s so active in how he practices his kindness. Even to people he doesn’t know and has no obligations to.
Because we’ve had a bit of whiplash so far. Bran I established Jon as a sweet and empathetic, self-sacrificial brother. But the first part of Jon I makes us question that when we see his pettiness and immaturity on full display. It almost seems like a case of unreliable narration from Bran, until we get to this last part when Jon gets a small moment to redeem himself. Which he does ~ and it’s done beautifully because it later links to some of the larger themes in Jon’s storyline. That he is one who actively looks out for the “cripples and bastards and broken things”. It’s not just looking out for Bran when they found the direwolf pups, but looking out for Tyrion in this chapter, and then for Arya and Bran again in Jon II, and then for Grenn in the last part of Jon III, and for Sam in Jon IV, and so forth and so forth. It’s a pattern that’s established through big and small moments all throughout AGOT where Jon still has a lot of growing up to do. But these moments, at large, serve as an anchor to remind us why we ought to care for this hero’s journey.
#jon snow#asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#my stuff#And it’s one of the (many) things that the adaptation got wrong about Jon’s character#Yes show!Jon was “good”#sometimes the show showed us most times the show told us#But show!Jon’s goodness was never as proactive as book!jon’s#We don’t get him offering to help Tyrion#we don’t get him telling Tyrion that he sees him as a man beyond his disability#we don’t get him making gifts for his friends just because he wants to#we don’t get him telling Gilly that her name is pretty because that’s the only kindness he can offer her at the time#Instead we’re told that he’s good because he can’t lie#Ummmmm yeah book Jon lies all the time ajnsjsbaba doesn’t make him any less admirable#We just lose so much depth with Jon like ugh#in whitewashing him they ironically removed his most admirable traits#justice for my boy
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WAIT A SECOND… are they… gay?
#the magnus archives#hey martin why do you care so much about jon specifically?#idk man maybe they’re “just friends’’#just coworkers#but um#he seems to care an awful lot#just finished season 1 in less than 30 hours 💪#gooze’z zhitpoztz
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i wonder why everyone usually depicts martin as being super tall. was he ever described that way and i missed it? always pictured him small and easily not spotted for obvious reasons lmao
#i also feel like maybe jon would've been less inclined to give that much shit to someone super taller and bigger than him#<tho that's questionable actually bc he did try to give shit to things that beat him up so i take it back actually LMAO#tma#wiz rambles
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This post from @cruciomione got me thinking thoughts.
It’s fascinating that a ship with canon evidence of sexual intimacy hasn’t made as much hoopla as us with every lingering gaze, check in, awkward quip/conversation, family turmoil, sudden loss of knowing about UPS and acceptance (Carmen, Natalie, and Ritchie encouraged Sydney to say, “Let It Rip”! LET IT RIP! THE BLEEP!). And, when I do think about Carmy/Claire: The sex scene, though showing how sensual Carmy is (to me), it was the hues and lighting that were interesting. All I can recall is Blue. There’s a well written post by @thoughtfulchaos773 that examined color choices. What I like to mention is that the hues or filter or insert the technical term moving forward are so tightly connected at the beginning of Omelette.
Deep Blues of Intimacy (opening scene) to the softer tints of blues and greens of Sydney’s chef (stained) white jacket in the following scene are important. I capitalize the DBP because, for me, this scene was obviously hitting on something... It was stark and intense and hollow. It feels purposeful – hard hitting in an expectant way. The transition to a lighter blue/green filter to Sydney preparing with her stained chef white jacket feels significant. It’s about Sydney trying and trusting.
And then THE alley scene with the same pale, cooler color tones. Carmy is trying to manage through the "warmth" (warmer tones) of his past that is actual chaos. And then there’s Sydney. Cooler, calmer, more his speed in the sense of recognition of same knowing same. There something so...wholly complicated and knowing about Season Two.
#season one was a trip but season two was a certifiable ride#i don't have time for all the nuances of this show but I will make time#the bear#the bear hulu#the bear fx#is coloring cinematography this is a genuine question i know less than jon snow this a shout out to my friend @owlsinathens#sydney adamu#carmen berzatto#claire the bear#sydcarmy#carmy x sydney#chefs kiss#yup i'm into the chef's kiss ship name#too much inspiration not enough time in the day due to daylight saving shenanigans and having to work
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mag141 is like a complete mystery to me every time. jon and basira on boat to ny alesund, floyd matharu, one of basira's most frustrating bits of hypocrisy. the content of the statement? naw. Mikaele salesa? never heard of im. mikaele salesa dying? aw man forgot he did that.
just. nothing. every time.
#tma#mag 141#being seasick does lower your hypocrisy score tho no ones at their best while nauseous#and it's a kind of circular argument where *no one* involved is trying to speak productively#but it is also fairly brief#i think it sticks out bc it's usually less direct ie the baseline daisy gets different standards from everyone else version#like. it's jon going basira you can't have it both ways and she kind of clams up#and then she says jon maybe consider the consequences of your actions and he clams up#which. idk what else she expected considering the consequences of his actions is one of jons weakest skills but otherwise fair enough#but his bit gets offset by Every Other Conversation jon has#while basira not only isn't in every ep but often isnt even at the institute#massively upping the % of time she spends being kind of crappy about jon and new huntless daisy compared to the others#she doesn't get enough time for that much philosophical musing rip#ink post
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A Gale of Wolves, Chapter 4: Jon
"I think she's come to take back Winterfell, Your Grace," he answered, then dared to add, "just as I think she'll be wanting you to call her Lady Stark."
The king looked doubtful, even as he grasped Jon's meaning. "Lady Stark of Winterfell? A woman as Warden of the North?"
"A woman whose mother rode with her son through every one of his victories," Jon pointed out, though not without feeling the irony of his own admiration for Lady Stark. While she'd lived, her hatred of him had been like the noonday sun: too bright to note any detail of her beyond the outline. Now with her safely dead and gone he could see her more clearly, and in some of King Robb's success he suspected more of the mother's political maneuvering than the son's military brilliance. "A woman who survived King's Landing when stronger men all around her were dropping like flies, including our own father. I haven't seen Sansa since she was a child, Your Grace, but I'd not underestimate her."
"You think the lords will rally to her?" asked Stannis, clearly still skeptical. "They were failed badly by her brother, and she has no call on their loyalty except her maiden's name."
"It's a powerful name, Your Grace. The direwolf has flown its banner over the North for centuries; the Boltons can't wipe out that memory no matter how much blood they spill. If Lyanna Mormont and all the rest of them want a King in the North whose name is Stark, well." He tucked Sansa's message into his breast pocket. "It seems you've found her."
*note: chapters will be posted once a day from April 18 to May 11. Some will be shorter than others, but hopefully this schedule will work for people who a) like to know when they can read the whole thing in one go and b) like to read chapter by chapter as they come.
#game of thrones fic#game of thrones#game of thrones motherfuckers#got: bitches get stuff done#a gale of wolves#a song of darkness and dawn#I'm not using much from the books (aside from the stuff that's frankly more interesting than the show)#but one thing I did steal was the fact that Jon and Stannis are kind of 'same hat' about each other#two dour sad dudes with weird senses of humor who've been less loved by their family than they deserved#of course they'd be like 'actually he's pretty cool' about each other when both of them are fucking losers#and I mean that with all the love in the world#these two are among my faves#but like#I'm just saying
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Julianna of Conte is a perfect princess. But for her Bazhir blood that gives her olive skin instead of ivory and her Gift. But she is perfect - graceful, charming, witty and a perfect hand at her sewing, music and dance and her fashion. That she is also intelligent, wise and kind matters little and less. That she loathes her cousin Roger matters not either.
(Girl! Jon of Conte as a result of discussing with @eidetictelekinetic <3)
#lil and her ridiculous aus#fic#book: tamora pierce#i do think roger might well have less of a mask with a girl!jon#because he might well see her as not being able to make the impression that prince jon can#(creepy obsession remains the same)#(julianna has Way Too Much Magic For A Girl (TM))#(which SURPRISE dominion jewel!)
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Damn I really gaslit myself into thinking Gwen was a main main character bc I love her too much…
I was reading the tmagp wiki so that I can find out how to spell Sam’s name for a chat fic and read that Alice was the other main character aside from him
I completely thought Gwen was and even told other people she was…
I swear to all things holy and not if she fucking dies I will lose it
Please Jonny, Alex…
Please…
#the magnus protocol#tmagp#gwen bouchard#gwendolyn bouchard#I love Gwen so much#she’s so loser-core#but like less so than Jon#but more in a way I cannot explain#please don’t kill her#when she dies that is when I’ll start my obligatory denial of what is going on in the series
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jon/ygritte is very interesting bc even tho their situation was pretty fucked up jon did love her! gendrya is cute but arya is too young and the books are never being finished so yeah
yeah those are both very fair. i think if we got the finished books, gendrya would be in that category of “genuine good love story” bc right now it’s like the beginning and middle build up but, especially from gendry’s end, no real climax. i don’t think arya is aware she has romantic feelings for gendry, i’ve said before i think he’s aware of her feelings and just didn’t know how to handle it, and now feels some extreme guilt over ~rejecting~ her unknown crush. and i think that’s very typical sort of romance novel misunderstanding that could come to a very lovely conclusion. but right now arya is still an eleven year old completely unaware of the romantic undertones of that entire thing while gendry is (i always forget his age is he 15??) just like, trying not to die in the riverlands while he stews in his guilt lol.
jonygritte meanwhile is VERY much one of those toxic romances but i think people are really silly about it. there’s significantly more romanticism in this relationship than other ones, and i think it’s silly to ignore that aspect for the hardline anti ygritte takes the same as like, ignoring those toxic elements really takes away how interesting this relationship is. on the one hand, there’s very much a reason that this romance serves a similar narrative purpose as like, dany/drogo, tyrion/tysha and tyrion/shae, sansa/sandor, etc, and it’s bc there’s some FREAKY consent issues going on here lmao but on the other hand….jon’s feelings for ygritte have impacted not just his own feelings on romance but also his entire leadership arc re: gender & culture it’s so stupid to pretend like she’s ONLY there as a negative influence (this is how i feel about sandor too).
#i’m not sure drogo should be considered on their level bc he is not deep as a character even slightly. but i do think we are meant to see#dany’s feelings for him as real and genuine even if they are a coping mechanism. i think the point there is that just bc he was awful doesnt#mean that those small moments of paternalistic kindness weren’t important to dany. both sandor & ygritte are given more sympathetic#backgrounds and that’s a race thing with george that we can all clearly see lol lmao it’s fine he’s the same age as one of my grandmas#(the older grandma too lol)#tysha and shae imo while they play similar roles the thing is the boogeyman in that story is TYWIN not the girls which is interesting!#bc drogo is obviously the bad guy in that one & sandor/ygritte play similar ‘victim who victimizes someone they have control over to ~help’#asks#anons#anyways once again i think people see ygritte as significantly more stupid and sadistic than she actually is & also as much less aware of#the dynamic that’s going on. whenever people are like ‘she doesn’t know jon is gonna flip on her’ it’s So clear she knows guys#that’s why they fascinated 16 year old me!! they both know it’s gonna end badly!!!!! they jump in anyway!!!!!!!
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Something that keeps nagging at me is, why did Jon continue to take statements?
I’m not talking about season four. In episode 120 it is revealed that Jon gets dreams of the statements, and in episode 114, Daisy asks about his shirt, meaning the dreams weren’t just happening during the coma. (Also 120 states that he’s had these dreams before)
And look, I know Jon loves trying to deny things, he spent the entirety of season 1 doing just that, but he’s not stupid; no one would think “hm, I’ve been getting dreams of the live statements, where I watch them live through their trauma again and I’m turning into something not quite human, probably just a coincidence. Nothing to worry about.” So why does he continue to take live statements?
Because even if Jon doesn’t know that the other person shares the dream, why would he want to keep dreaming them? Because he enjoys it. He’s not suddenly more “monstrous” in season 4, taking strangers statements, it wasn’t like he suddenly started making these selfish decisions, he already was.
I’ve seen a lot of people say that Jon doesn’t become an avatar until season 4, but, to me, he already was one, his choice in episode 121 is more about becoming the Archivist not an avatar of the Eye. Because in season 3 he can already compel people, he can already Know things, and he is already enjoying people’s fear. He plainly tells Gerry that he likes compelling people.
So, I think, Jon enjoys taking peoples statements, and he enjoys watching their dreams, because he doesn’t have a choice. Jon admits that he thinks he’s losing himself to the Eye:
“ARCHIVIST
Avatars! But they end up getting these abilities, and they lose a lot of their self. Sometimes all of it.
GEORGIE
And you think… that’s what’s happening to you?
ARCHIVIST
Yes. Yes. The Institute serves one of these beings.”
The Eye took a part of him, and now he has to enjoy others’ suffering, he still feels immense guilt for his actions, but as Helen said “When has your guilt, or your sadness, or your hand-wringing ever actually stopped you from doing what it wants?”
#the magnus archives#jonathan sims#my post#I don’t think this makes Jon a worse person or anything#because as much as I love him he makes bad harmful selfish decisions sometimes#but I also can’t really blame him because I don’t think anyone else could do better certainly not anyone in the show#and I don’t think he should be condemned for having moments of weakness#yes it causes harm and that should be acknowledged but so should the circumstances that led him to it#he likes to compel people because it’s something he can control and makes him feel less powerless#if Jon wasn’t in literally the worst situation in the show I don’t think he’d ever choose to do anything purposely harmful#but as it is he caves to desires he wished he didn’t have even if it means he’s causing harm to others#the only reason season 4 is so much worse is that he can’t feign ignorance about taking statements#in previous seasons it was people specifically coming to make a statement or Avatars that wished him harm#the only exceptions were Georgie and Gerry but he asked them both before taking their statements#but season 4 he is actively hunting people and forcefully taking their statements#I also think after Naomii Herne if he had tried to leave the statement giver alone Elias would have just made him stay#telling him not to leave them alone with institute property or something
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so has it ever been confirmed that michael stabbed jon with his actual inhuman fingers or is that something i came up with myself/fanon i absorbed. it's not like it's out of the realm of possibility that michael just had a knife since avatars do like, live their lives (altho i'm still not convinced that michael was an AVATAR avatar and not just like, the imprisoned incarnated yellow door distortion, but i'm not sure that changes how he would like, exist on the physical plane, i don't think he exists in a pocket corridor dimension and only pops out to laugh and drive people up the wall, anyway). i know his hands being Weird are one of his Things but sasha only ever talks about them feeling heavy and like sandbags (iirc), not that they're sharp. although i suppose an avatar/creature of the spiral could conceivably shapeshift. but i'm not convinced that purpose wouldn't be "make people doubt their own senses" rather than "stabbing killing maiming." idk. i'm about to have to do something w/ it for a whumptober fic and i'm overthinking it. hands or knife. what's it going to be. cast your votes now
#IS it fanon that he stabbed jon w/ his finger(s)?#god. that's so fucking freudian. i'm going to make it happen with a knife#a knife isn't that much less ph*llic but i can't deal with finger s*x rn i'm on too much of an ace week high#but then again a knife makes general sense but does it make sense for MICHAEL? michael dee stortion?#i don't know it literally does not matter that much but actually everything matters very very much#everything matters so much and i feel like i will die if i get this wrong#mythtakes#tma#i don't want this to actually end up in the tag but also for blacklisting purposes!!! sorry
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