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Thinking about human behaviour compared to animal behaviour again.
It's funny to hear people (the older gens) complaining that "kids these days are lazy, they don't wanna work, etc." What do we get for busting our asses? There is no reward. Many will never own homes. Many are unemployed, trying to find work, and nobody will hire them because they don't have a million years experience and a masters degree OR they want people to work for minimum wage??? People are giving up because there is no reward. Why would we do all this for nothing?
Same as a dog that won't recall when you haven't reinforced it with a reward. Your dog isn't going to do what you tell it to if there is no incentive. No, your dog SHOULDN'T listen just because you're boss and it should respect you. That isn't how it works. They don't think that way. And honestly neither do people.
When we went hiking Sprocket wasn't always taking treats gently from me when I recalled her or she checked in and I rewarded and my one friend told me to stop giving her treats. I told him I won't work for free so why should she. And he said "I do things for free all the time because I want to do them," and I didn't say it then, but I wish I had, but if you like doing it, that's the incentive. It's a self-rewarding behaviour. Just like anything else a dog does, like chasing a squirrel or sniffing things or getting into the trash. Heeling instead of going off to sniff stuff or recalling off of something they want to chase is something you have to reinforce. You have to give them something better so they make the choice you want them to make. They won't make it just because they *respect* you. They won't willingly recall off of exciting prey out of RESPECT. You need to give them a tangible reward for that. You cannot possibly expect your dog to listen just because and then punish them for disobeying you.
Yeah, Sprocket bit my fingers a couple times. The one time pretty hard. But she was excited. She knows how to take gently and I reminded her and she tried very hard to be gentle most of the time. I wasn't going to stop rewarding her for checking in with me and recalling while we were off leash hiking in the woods. I want her to know that coming back to me is good and in the event of an emergency I would like her to not blow me off.
#barkin up some trees#personal#the way my friends train their dog is not the way I would ever train a dog#in fairness he isnt food or toy motivated#and i dont have issues with ecollars#but they dont actually reward him for anything really#praise but little to nothing else#like yeah of course he is gonna blow you off to jump in the lake#lake is more rewarding than recalling to you when you have nothing to offer him in return#the way they recall him is that he has to come to them and then give a hand boop#and if he doesn't make contact they keep asking him until he does it#and then no reward#other than praise#which he doesnt seem to really care that much about#idk it just doesnt feel right the way they train him and i dont take advice from them on training#they also basically never have him on a leash even tho it is required by law in town#after the hike we went to the lodge restaurant and luckily we had an extra lead in the truck#otherwise they hadnt even brought one along so they were gonna leave him in their car while we ate#idk like i love my friends and they are nice people but jesus christ
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trans!soap taking his baby and running away from his rich abusive husband
(cw angst, financial abuse, single threat of child abuse, single mention of transphobia)
he's owned soap for years, since he was a teenager; paid for his medication and all his surgeries and tied them so deeply, soapās lost hope of ever getting away. he gets even worse when soap falls pregnant. he was always controlling; blowing up at him if he spent too long out of the house or did something without telling him. but he becomes utterly possessive during the pregnancy
soap knows it has nothing to do with his safety or the baby's
he knows he sees his baby as an investment; another being he can control and hold over him
he gets worse and worse but thereās nothing soap can do. there's been nothing he can do for a long time. then a few months after the baby is born, soap doesnāt watch his tone closely enough and his husband threatens to drop his baby in punishment for it
soap doesn't think. he doesn't plan
he takes his baby and runs
he sneaks out of the servant's quarters of the sterile mansion he's been forced to live in for almost a decade and walks down the street without a backwards glance; his baby the only thing in his arms. he knows all of his husband's cars have trackers, all of them in his name since he never lets soap drive or go anywhere by himself, so he walks far enough to be out of view of the mansion's cameras and steals one. it doesn't have a car seat and all he can do is clutch his baby to his chest as he drives
he doesn't know where he's going beyond away
he doesn't know what he's going to do; he doesn't have any money, no supplies for his baby, he doesn't even have water for himself so he can reliably breastfeed him. he's terrified his husband will find them; heās always felt omniscient, always everywhere and seeing everything he did. if he didnāt have eyes somewhere, he paid someone who did and they always dutifully reported back to him
soap just keeps his eyes forward. just keeps driving and driving, lost to the road and numb until the low gas light pops up on the dash and it all hits him at once
he turns into a gas station he can't pay for, in a car he stole, and parks behind it and his baby immediately starts getting fussy
he can't even call him by his name sometimes; too afraid to get attached, too afraid to lose him. as if he doesnāt love him more than life itself
even throughout his pregnancy, as happy as he was to finally have a baby, he didn't know if he could carry to term and that fear just let his husband dig his claws in even deeper; paying for extra scans he could never hope to pay for, favours on top of favours so he would aways owe him and isnāt he such a loving husband? taking soap in when his parents kicked him out for being trans, looking after him for all these years? you canāt even take care of yourself john, youād still be a woman without me, john, what is this tantrum about john-
soap tugs his shirt up to let his baby feed, drops his head back and cries
he can't stop it; wails loud and uncontrolled, chest heaving with his sobs enough that it sways his baby, occasionally breaking his latch and he can't even do this right-
he can't save him
a light knock sounds on the window and soap flinches, curling over his baby to protect him from his huband's cruel hands
but it's not his husband outside the window
soap blinks tears from his eyes and looks at the large stranger standing beside the car. a neck gaiter covers his mouth and it should be off-puttingā¦ but something about him stops the feeling in its tracks. the stranger takes a half-step back and lifts a chilled and sealed water bottle, pressing it towards the window
soap quickly swipes his face clean and rolls down the window. "sorry 'bout that," he apologises with a choked laugh, the careful front heās built over the years cracked and bleeding
the stranger gives a dismissive but somehow not diminishing shrug. "long day?" he asks
"could say that," he gives a shrug of his own and pats his baby's back as he makes a disgruntled noise, unconsciously swaying him
he politely keeps his gaze up on his face. "looks like you could use a break."
soap's breath hitches, anxiously darting his tongue out over his bottom lip. "could say that," he repeats uselessly and takes the water with a quiet āthanks,ā; his throat dry and screaming for it after crying so hard
the stranger hums, watching him down the bottle and soap doesnāt notice his eyes drifting to the backseat and footwell of the passenger side. doesnāt notice the slight tension in his fists at what he sees. "how long you been runnin', lad?"
soap freezes, the water settling in his stomach like a stone. he swallows thickly and the bottle falls from his lips
"not long enough."
the stranger just nods, looking idly back down the highway
"you know, this place is connected to a garage,ā he starts, nodding back to a building attached to the station without taking his eyes off the road. ālotta people drift through 'ere on road trips; too many to keep track.ā
soap frowns slightly, shifting his hold on his baby
āfunny thing is, plenty of 'em just abandon their car when they break down. like yours,ā he adds and finally turns back to him with a pointed look. āgot a whole junkyard of 'em. just rustin' away. be pretty easy to convince me to trade ya one."
soapās mouth parts in a gasp as he realises just what the strangerās saying. "how easy?" he whispers
he shrugs and even with his face hidden beneath the gaiter, he doesnāt feel afraid. "i'd say this car'd be a good deal. would blend right in with the rest of āem; no oneād ever notice it. what say i take it off your hands?"
soap's breath shudders out of him, his whole body going limp with relief. his baby's eyes fall shut with a satisfied hum and for the first time he can remember, he feels the gentle touch of hope
"i think we can work something out."
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ghost owns the service station soap pulled into. he wanted something quiet and isolated after he retired and you canāt get much quieter than a backwoods servo surrounded by forest. he hasnāt had anyone pull in in days so heās quick to notice soapās car. heās also quick to notice soap's subsequent breakdown in one of the cameras. the sight of him crying, desperately clutching a baby like theyāre all he has left in the world, is so familiar he felt sick with it
he knows someone running when he sees it
if he didn't check on him, if this lad disappeared one day and the baby along with him, he'd never forgive himself. the lad doesn't even have a baby bag or car seat with him, and the personalised sticker on the back window of a lady and a dog is a dead giveaway that the car is stolen
but the lad is terrified. and when he startled him, he didn't turn. didnāt lift his arms to protect himself. no
he covered his baby
like he was afraid he'd be hurt
that's enough for ghost
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i'd wanna set this in the 80's or 90's, just to make it even harder for soap to get away from his husband. he's a trans man with a newborn; he has no one to run to and no resources to help him. his husband's bought and paid for everything for him since he was 17; a few whirlwind weeks of unbelievable dates and extravagant gifts and he was living in his mansion, getting married the day after his 18th birthday. he thought it was love. thought he was being looked after and cared for the way heās always wanted
he was in pain and alone and naive enough to believe the first person who came along and promised to make it better. nothing's in his name, not his insurance or his meds, he doesnāt have a bank account or savings; other than a birth certificate, nothing even ties him to his baby. his husband could take his world away from him with a snap of his fingers and he made sure soap always knew it
he never had a chance of getting away
but ghost is ex-military
he doesnāt know the ladās story, doesnāt know the details of what heās running from. he doesnāt need to know
he decided he was helping him the second he pulled into his service station
#what up i had a nightmare about an eldritch horror trying to steal my baby and john mcclane from die hard shooting it to protect me#i woke up freaked out and decided to torment soap with it to feel better#thats literally the only reason this exists#that and the thought of soaps super hairy chest but thats besides the point#anyway#i was going to have ghost be a drifter after retiring but i like the idea of him being the unlikely safe person living out in the woods#ghost moves soap into the little one bedroom cabin he built behind the station#its hidden by the trees and kept warm by a fire. he gives soap and the baby the bedroom and sleeps out in the living room#he keeps watch out the window for whoevers after soap#he doesnt find out who it is for a while; soaps been burned and reluctant to trust anyone#but they gradually heal each other; ghost gives soap someone to trust and soap helps ghost heal his truma by giving him someone he can save#soap starts to work in the service station despite ghost telling him he doesnt need to but he wants his independence back#he finds he likes working and ghost cant take that from him when hes so obviously happy cleaning and shelving stock#soaps husband comes looking for him but ghost still has his contacts and calls a whole militia down on his head#each one of them with favours in the government if not outright political immunity; money means nothing in the face of them#they just threaten him; lets him know soap is protected now#at least; thats what ghost tells soap š#coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt#weāre a team. ghost team#ghostsoap#soapghost#ghoap#john soap mactavish#soap cod#simon ghost riley#ghost cod#save post
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Stelle is funny, she doesn't miss the chance to diss Dan Heng for "Cold Dragon Young" .
Continuing my journey on HSR:
Our options of dialogue are everything in this game, I love them, they are so funny and it makes our heroine a gremlin of chaos.
On a side note, it's funny that when we said "he's pretty handsome" about Jing Yuan, something so true, even March can't say anything against it:
#honkai star rail#honkai stelle#honkai dan heng#little things you may miss while going in circles because you don't have trailblaze power and no new trailblaze mission#i feel so cheated because i thought this update will bring new story mission#but no#they bring new companion mission#with people we have met once#like bailu#or with people that stelle haven't met#like the other tree persons
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Keith saying him and Matthews fiancƩ do the cooking for him and he just sits there and heckles them. So on brand.
"And how about your barbecuing skills? It looked like you knew what you were doing behind that grill!" "Well, Matthew is pretty useless so! Unlike BradyāBrady can, you know, does things on his own but Matthew likes when I'm down there so I do cook and his fiancĆ©e, Ellie, does a great job so. He just sits back and critiques us but forgets that we're the ones doing all the work for him. Whichāhey! It was playoffs! I'll do anything for my children."
NHL Tonight: First Shift |Ā 10.16.24 (x)
unfortunately tracks for him and im still crying into my hands its always the one who cant cook for shit thats the mouthiest about it
and considering this clip from faceoff it really does track
#ask#matthew tkachuk#brady tkachuk#keith tkachuk#florida panthers#i love when you can see the family tree of vocal tics#the ei! is intricate#the apple does not fall far from the tree in terms of vocalisms#oh the tkachuks what a family#the peanut gallery does have a lot to say huh id like to see you pick up those tongs you brat#the art of barbeque is an intricate one MAFFHEW SHUT IT#but maffhew giving ellie shit like the little brat he is#i think it makes the banana bread clip cuter he was soooooo proud to brag about it#but he probably was a little shit about it when she was mixing the batter#āill do anything for my childrenā like being his personal cook despite him being a whole ass adult. parenthood is beautiful thing.#(no its terribly sweet btw)#godbless this family who does not take each others shit at all thats the best kind of fambily#like a whole tree of chickadees they do not stop chirping#special thank you to @/fannyyann because its truly a gift you screenrecorded those episodes and it makes clipping so much easier amen š#maffhew being described as useless. oh the princess will not lift a single finger! she will not!!#she is here to be pampered and loved and to be waited on hand and foot!!!!
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Half questioning my memory of the post s4 era, half side eying a certain character, so correct me if Iām wrong, but I donāt think there was ever a time when the Buddie fandom fully took the single āEvanā from the season 4 finale as Eddie receiving āEvanā privileges from then on. From my recollection, fics stayed mostly consistent with their uses of āEvanā by Eddie, perhaps just with an emphasis on important moments (love confessions, Christopherās adoption papers, wedding vows, NDEs, etc.) after the finale. And I had to stop myself from wondering why that is because I know why. We all know. Because nobody wanted to use āEvanā in fics when Buck had just told his parents that people who know him call him Buck. So Buddie fandom heard that, accepted it, and uses it only sparingly. In canon and fanon, even Maddie only rarely uses āEvanā anymore, and it feels even less common for her to use post-Buck Begins (if at all, actually). So the fact that Tommy and BT fans tend to use āEvanā (at least, this has been my experience) is so utterly jarring. Buck told everyone his preference, and I believe LFJ has spoken about being told to use only āEvanā when referring to Buck, so I simply do not understand anyone who believes that BT is in love already or endgame. Yes, it could go the āBuck gave Tommy āEvanā privileges off-screenā route, but then why push it off-screen? It would be a major allowance made for a new love interest, and a significant step in Buckās character arc. Yet we see nothing of the sort. So why would anyone believe thatās what happened? The last we heard, Buck had told his parents and everyone else to call him Buck exclusively, with the minimal exception of Maddie (who was, for most of his childhood, his one and only lifeline and confidant). That sort of history and characterization is not ignored if there is not something very wrong with the writersā room. It was not even ignored by a significant portion of the fandom post-season 4, although Eddie gaining permanent āEvanā privileges wouldāve been a strong indicator of a Buddie endgame (had an on-screen explanation of Eddie gaining this privilege been released). It was not ignored, and it did not change the nature of Buck in fic nor fanon. So why in hell is the same not holding true for a brand new relationship like BT?
#buddie#apologies for the rant#it just annoys me#that for 3 years this facet of Buckās was understood and accepted by basically the entire fandom#but enter T and suddenly people are using āEvanā like Buck didnāt literally walk through fire every single day of his life to keep from#being known as his parentsā āEvanā again#this was literally not a problem before this past season and now everry time I see āEvanā used in fics I cringe#soemtimes even when itās Maddie or Eddie using it in a canon/character-aligned way#itās the very definition of YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS CHARACTER to my brain#anti tommy kinard#anti tevan#anti bucktommy#anti bummy#anti bt#evan buckley#eddie diaz#and like#who cares if T is using it in canon???#heās literally known Buck for all of 5 months at MOST#this is not a case of endgame ship getting privileges regarding each other that others donāt#this is a case of T and BT stand not understanding Buck as a character or person#even watching the whole show does not absolve someone of this weirdness because why is anyone following the lead of Tree 6 on anything Buck#maddie buckley han#maddie han#maddie buckley#btw if youāre a BT who somehow stumbled on this post despite like 4 anti tags that are easily filtered - just walk away#I am but an annoyed buddie fan who thinks that watching this show for deeper stories#is better than latching on to the newest white boy of the month#911#911 abc
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What Mahito did: Manipulate Junpei into being his friend and then killed him in front of Yuji, laughed about Yuji's desperation to save him, killed Nanami, got Nobara into a coma, destroyed one of Todo's hands
Yuji with Mahito at the end:
What Sukuna did: Threaten to kill Yuji's friend multiple times, ripped Yuji's heart out of his chest and then tricked him into making a Binding Vow that he would have to forget in order to bring him back to life, laughed at Yuji when he desperately begged him to try and save Junpei, told him over and over again that his mere existence would bring destruction simply by being his vessel, destroyed Shibuya and killed countless of innocent people, ditched Yuji to make Megumi his new vessel, then sinked Megumi's soul as deep as he could in darkness in order to keep control of his body, killed Tsumiki, killed Gojo, killed Kashimo, killed Higuruma, killed Choso, almost killed Yuta and pushed him into using Kenjaku's CT to get into Gojo's body, kept praising literally everyone else but Yuji (while still trying to kill them), who he kept talking shit about instead, got pissed when Yuji showed pity and told him that he would kill every single person still left alive that Yuji cared about before finally killing him
Yuji with Sukuna at the end:
#personal#jjk#jujutsu kaisen#jujutsu kaisen spoilers#sukuita#like whaaaaaat#Sukuna: did much more evil things to Yuji#Yuji: don't worry pookie I love you anyway#Mahito: looks at Yuji the wrong way#Yuji: I will rip you apart piece by piece and watch as the light vanishes from your eyes and-#-I will track down every future reincarnated version of you to do the same over and over until the end of time#like#I don't even like Mahito but my boy Yuji was WILD#he's down BAD for Sukuna I just can't see it any other way bro#also I might have forgotten some thing but tbh Sukuna has done so much shit to poor Yuji I can't remember it all#the point still stands lmao Mahito did a FRACTION of what Sukuna did and got no pity I love my absolutely whipped son#Yuji and Kenjaku both absolutely obsessed with their respective Ryomen twin the apple truly does not fall far from the tree lmaooo#Yuji really said he'd keep living with Sukuna no matter what anyone else might say or think and that he'd stay by his side till the very end#they make me absolutely and completely feral#these bitches gay#(good for them)
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If youāve already answered this then no worries, but what would the typical clan cat lifespan be then (assuming they donāt die prematurely from injury/illness). Just curious as to how many generations have passed since the clanās founding in the 80 or so years.
Clan cat lifespans can be pretty variable! They're considered senior warriors at 5, but if all works out their lifespan is often 16 years. Kittens usually enter the picture for a parent who is 2 to 8 years old, but they COULD have them anywhere between 1 to 15.
Clan cats play less attention to raw age than to EXPERIENCE, though. It is socially discouraged for a fresh warrior to become a parent, and you are NOT an adult until you're out of apprenticeship. They see age like this;
Child: Less than 6 full moons SEEN. If a kitten's eyes were not opened when the first moon of their life passed over them, that is not a month they were alive.
Adolescent: The amount of time you are an apprentice. Flamepaw was considered a child while his sister was an adult.
Young Adult: The first full year out of apprenticeship, when you've handled a full year on your own. A warrior is only eligible for an apprentice after this length of time, so by extension a cat COULD be a mentor around age 2 (BUT that's considered young. 3 is a better bet.)
Adulthood is even more variable, because you're usually not considered "aged" until you've had an apprentice or a litter and you're around 5 years old. Without either of those things, you often won't be considered a "senior warrior" until you're as old as 8.
So to answer your question directly, you can comfortably estimate a new crop of warriors about every 5 years, and full population turnover every 15. Between the numbers, 8 is a good estimation of how long it takes for a generation to pass
(Though I'm more partial to historic events and time periods than crunching numbers like that)
Elders can hang on for a LOOONG time though-- One-eye over in ThunderClan was a personal friend of Pinestar and witnessed the Crusades before passing away at the tender age of 20-something.
#clan culture#better bones au#Age#It's good to remember that population isn't like salmon who die when they have kids#Gen X Millenials Z and Alpha are all coexisting right now#And imo the distinctions between the generations have much more to do with what we grew up with#I'm a lot more fond of the benchmark ''do you remember a time before 9/11'' to separate Millenials and Z for example#Rather than the imo silly division of the year 2k#One of those is much more meaningful to how you developed as a person than the other imo#A SECOND TREE HAS HIT THE RIPPLESTAR
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this game will literally tell you anything except acknowledge the thing that started morrigan's reputation. she's had more lovers than there are trees in the forest but she's NOT A HERO OF THE FIFTH BLIGHT OR ANYTHING.
#tbd#bioware critical#datv spoilers#i'm trying ok i'm really trying but this is just upsetting that's it#suddenly morrigan has a reputation of apparently having fucked more people than there are trees in the forest#when has that ever been her character i'm sorry this feels misogynistic to me? what you have a woman with a mysterious reputation#which means she's fucked a lot of people?#you know flemeth has other daughters. daughters like yavana#like just use one of them leave morrigan out of this#my poor girl look at what they want you to be in their world#fae plays datv#every time I start getting into this game and enjoying it it reminds me just how much it wants to disrespect returning characters#and its like you have this shitty note here to give you more morrigan info but all it wants to do is give you this drivel#it's like she didn't even exist to these people who wrote this game before inquisition#anyway bellara's and harding's personal quests save me bellara's and harding's quests
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thunderclan is almost ready to rumble for ClanGen! click for quality lol
#things that still need to be added are: relationship toggles / ages for elders / and some cats need to have their personality traits change#also i decided on swiftstride for swiftpaw instead.#like the game randomly assigned firestar playful and willowpelt grumpy#warrior cats#wc#warrior cats au#firestar#scourge#squirrelstar#leafpool#ill post sprite close ups soon#feel free to ask me about my headcanons/choices/au timeline i would seriously love to ask questions#not pictured here are the other guys i added#thunderstar as a starclan guide and clan founder#starclanners and some dark forest cats#jake is here also for family tree accuracy#also barley ravenpaw princess and smudge are in there too
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wren šŖ¶ ć» entertainer ć» bard/fae warlock ć» absolutely mid at everything š
his lore is linked to yves (heās her dream guardian!!!)
#mine.#dnd oc#oc: wren.#actually I really love his costume LOL itās supposed to be handmade thatās why he has that trim on everything#and he ran out of fabric to make his other legging so he just made it like a sexy stocking situation#and mismatched boots!!!!!! heās missing the other pair#in terms of personality heās like book howl + ouran tamaki but more cowardly and pathetic and he runs away when thereās conflict#and heās constantly plagued with guilt š especially over yves š#also heās a hoe in theory but not in practice as in someone flirts with him and hits him with the haha and then what he actually doesnātm#know what to do next heās like š§#also MUCH to say abt his relationship with his patron but for now part of his pact is that heās required to carry that branch ^ around#and itās like this thorny branch with yew tree leavesā¦.the shrike to your sharp and glorious thorn real!!#I like this format tho I want to do this w my other gworls
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in the tags - tell me what love tastes, smells, and feels like to you
#a fun lil friday get to know each other activity etc#i always love seeing everyone's answers to these types of questions bc i feel like at the core they're all kind of similar but we all have#like minor little differences that make them personal#love to me tastes like bread fresh from the oven with good butter#it's essential it has been essential through centuries of time and it is always there and we can always find it again#love smells like citrus trees to me which if you've ever been in a grove of them you know what i mean and lime trees specifically#earthy and primal and zesty and everywhere#and to me love feels like rest it feels like a place where you can throw off your armor or your airs or whatever you have going on and#simply Be. just rest. exist. you don't have to produce or pretend to be loved.
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I think people sometimes focus too much on blood relations between the characters, and don't get me wrong people can enjoy the musical however they want, but i often see people make those big ass family trees of the characters, which is fine, but i think it's a bit boring to just look for the nuclear family type relationships, i think it loses some of the charm
Personally i find it way more fun to think that most characters aren't related by blood, I just find something so fun and whimsical in their little cat community where many characters are like a family without having to have any blood relations between them.
#Obviously it is fine to enjoy it however you want if you like big family trees i won't stop your fun#this is just my few cents on the matter#i often see people say how one character is nice to the other becouse they are blood related and i personally don't like it#like NOOO THEY ARE ALL A LIL GROUP lil funky group of cats#tho this could be just me and my love for found family i would die for that trope#however i do also have some hc myself about few characters blood relations i am not completly againts it#cats the musical#found family#fandom discussion#cats 1998#cats musical#musicals
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Snyder fans: Man of Steel made us Superman fans.
Snyder fans when a Superman movie has Superman acting like Superman:
#superman#clark kent#superman 2025#dc comics#dcu#they just want a superman who broods and punches things#because that's all zack wanted because he had no love for the character at all#superman is a hopeful kind friendly person#someone who will save cats and dogs#but that does not prevent them for having struggles or internal doubts#he's corny and old fashioned and that's what sets him about from other heroes#not his powers#loads have powers like superman#what makes superman superman is that he will use those great powers to save a cat from a tree as well as fight evil gods from space
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Okay no idea if tattoo's were a thing in ancient greece but regardless imagine penelope and odysseus having an olive branch tattoo around their hands that connects when they hold hands.
#epic the musical#The odyssey#It works for both so I'm tagging both#Odysseus#Penelope#Odypen#odysseus x penelope#Tattoos#hand tattoo#Olive tree symbolism reaching every part of their lives#Literally anybody in their lives: you know that just because you met under an olive tree#Doesn't mean you need to make it your whole personality#Odypen: no I'm going to#Literally .5 seconds of googling says tattoos were for criminals#So probably not but it's my fandom space so š¤·#Half of me wants to be like oh nvm they were actually good rulers so they probably didn't want pretty visible tattoos like that#The other half of me thinks they would want it even more due to the crime#Okay okay nope I've fleshed out this headcanon as I've rambled in the tags so#They talked about getting a interlinked matching hand tattoo before but always decided it would be worth the push back#UNTIL#odysseus has to leave for troy. And then they sat down and tattooed the interlinking olive branches onto each other#(And they took the complicated route and made it so the olive branches always line up no matter what way they hold hands)#Odysseus shows up to the war meeting with fresh tattoos marking him a criminal and his wife's dresses#This is half of why Athena had to spend half the odyssey changing odysseus's appearances was to hide the tattoos#*the dress thing came from another one of my posts#Do I think odysseus would have crossed dressed....maybe in private probably not before the whole 20 years odyssey thing#But post-canon? Absolutely
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Do psychotropic drugs and/or ritual play a role in any of the blightseed cultures? A pretty broad question, lol
Yeah thatās a very broad question, the answer is about as much as it tends to play roles in real history. Alcohol is pretty ubiquitous (outside of cultures that abstain from intoxicants) and used for a variety of purposes, opioids are commonly used in some parts for pain relief or recreational purposes, stimulants (usually in mild, natural forms) are used to provide extra energy, and hallucinogens are most commonly used as part of a larger religious framework (rather than for recreational purposes). Any more elaborate answer kinda has to be case by case in a certain culture or part of the setting.
I'll just take this as an opportunity to talk about the one established sect that pretty much REVOLVES around psychoactive use. This is the Scholarly Order of the Root, which is a sort of mystery religion + elite community of scholars who currently occupy the Ur-Tree and its forest in the far southern Lowlands (southeast of Imperial Wardin, on the same land mass).
The Ur-Tree is the obligatory Huge Fucking Fantasy Tree (and its surrounding forest). Itās a mass of vegetation about a mile tall and almost as old as Plant Life Itself, its upper branches are primeval plants, which become more modern the nearer they get to the ground (and each 'level' holds tiny ecosystems, some containing descendants of LONG-extinct arthropods/other small animals). Its lowest branches and the surrounding forest are contemporary plant life, and all is connected and protected by an incomparably MASSIVE fungal mycelium network (which is itself a living god).
A lot of the Scholars' more secretive practices revolve around experimentation with substance use with the goal of expanding the Mind and transcending the body to fully connect to the Dreamlands, and they have a supply chain of traders and mercenaries called Rootrunners who traffic substances into the Lowlands. Most of their psychoactive use is in a very intentional capacity and not just like, for fun, but a LOT of them are just straight up addicted to cocaine (in the form of alchemically refined bruljenum, which is used for practical purposes of its stimulant effect during long hours of work).
All known psychoactives are desirable for experimentation (particularly hallucinogens), with each having properties that either allow expansion of the Mind, transcendence of the body, or outright divine communion. Their effects are logged in great detail and interpreted to form the basis of the Scholars' understanding of the natural world and reality itself.
The most important substance is Ur-Root, which is root matter from subterranean levels of the Ur-Tree that have both their own intrinsic psychoactive substances and a very, very high concentration of living god mycelium. The tree root contains DMT and the mycelium has its own wholly unique effects (being an actual living god). They alchemically refine it into a purer, more potent form, and use it to expand beyond the body and directly commune with the Giants, a group of entities they have identified as the only true gods.
An Ur-Root trip starts off with minor visual distortion, which turns into shifting fractals that slowly obscure the vision. Eventually the senses are entirely taken over by a 'tunnel' of rapidly shifting fractals and geometries. In a complete trip, the experiencer gets a sense that they have been pushed through a membrane and entered another realm, finding themselves in a distinct experiential Space.
At this point they may encounter entities which communicate to them in a language impossible to describe but wholly understood. These beings are understood to be the Giants, or at least aspects of the Giants that mortals are capable of comprehending (they often take familiar tutelary forms of the Mantis or the Snake, or appear resembling the same type of sophont that the experiencer is, all composed of ever-shifting geometries). The experiencer often feels a sense of unconditional and endless love from these beings, though the Giants may be more hostile and may appear in the form of the Trickster (usually a cultural figure regarded as malicious, be it an animal or otherwise) in a bad trip.
(^Up until this point, this has mostly just been a DMT 'breakthrough' experience ft. 'machine elves' and the like).
They are then removed from this space and returned to something that feels like the real world, but is nearly unrecognizable. They have a sense of rapidly moving through time, and will usually see 'the spires' towards the beginning, which just so happen to look like this:
(source + some context via Implication- the spires are exactly what this art is depicting)
The experiencer continues to move across an unfathomable amount of time, occasionally 'seeing' other such flashes of unfamiliar landscapes and creatures, and yet also being devoid of all their senses, the 'seeing' is pure, unfiltered experience. There is a sense of interconnectedness with all life, and that one has become the forest (or even Life) itself. The sense of time is wildly distorted, the trip lasts only about 5 minutes but feels like an eternity and is understood as literal hundreds of millions of years.
The experiencer has usually lost any remaining sense of Self and individual consciousness during this phase (in which case this time distortion is usually a neutral or even peaceful experience), but some retain a fraction of their identity, and find themselves trapped and conscious while experiencing what feels like eternity (which can be LIFE-CHANGINGLY distressing, even after the fact).
(^This latter part of the trip is the effects of the Ur-Tree fungus).
The trip ends with a sense of rushing through the ground and back up into one's body, at which point they will abruptly return to their senses and consciousness. The details are then immediately retrieved via interview and recorded in immense detail. The whole experience is understood as having been full comprehension of the Dreamlands, communion with the Giants, and then a tour through the act of creation.
This is done as part of the initiatory practice into the inner mystery-religion of the scholars, and as needed for study by high scholar-priests. It is not taken lightly, both as it is absolute communion with the gods and reality, and in that it can be a very, very difficult experience. People who have gone through this often walk away with a permanently shifted perspective, often in a positive and/or comforting way- a sense of interconnectedness with all life, a peace with the concept of death, seeing less of a point in individual ego and the concept of Self, and comfort in the sense of divine love they (may have) experienced. This heavily influences the philosophy of the Scholars and has had effects by proxy in the religious worldviews of the region.
Details of this experience are closely guarded, and initiates are given absolutely no prior knowledge and expectations for their trip. This is seen as a necessity- their naivety will allow for a true, unfiltered experience, and can be used to gauge whether they should or should not be accepted. Those that have a distinctly bad trip upon initiation may be assumed to have been 'rejected' by the giants and thus denied full priesthood, though this largely depends on How they interpret their distressing trip- those who identify this as a test and harsh lesson in a journey to enlightenment may be accepted (as this is how fully initiated scholar-priests interpret and handle their bad trips).
This inner priesthood is only a small fraction of the Scholarly Order, and its greater function is as a hub of education and repository of knowledge, and Scholar-trained doctors can provide some of the best medical care available in the setting ('best medical care in this setting' only means so much but it's pretty solid, relatively speaking). Only a chosen few Scholars ever get to commune with the Ur-Root, and most of the divine secrets revealed in the process are kept hidden (though they indirectly influence the politics and worldview of the entire order).
#I'm kind of fascinated by the quasi-religious beliefs that have developed around recreational hallucinogen use (ESPECIALLY DMT)#In contrast to like. Uses of DMT-containing substances like ayahuasca for long-established religious purposes#So this concept is basically 'what if a religion was FORMED from pretty much the ground up out of DMT usage'#Like the common 'entities' people encounter in recreational use being identified as the Real Gods and producing a religious worldview#that is mostly rooted in this experience (while still influenced by other cultural factors)#Also the like. Meta going on here is that the fungus is a 'living god' and the oldest one on the planet#It is a VERY rare type of living god that is 'created' by non-sophont (non-sentient even) beings and exists as a mycelial network#that perfectly supports and protects an entire forest. Basically a god for plants. It is so deeply interconnected with its forest that the#usual power sophont belief would have over it has basically zero influence. This is absolutely the closest thing to A God in canon.#(While still not being a Creator/sapient/or even supernatural within the framework of this reality. Just VERY unique.)#The Ur-Tree has always been above water and grows very very slowly over the course of millenia by kind of 'pulling up' plant life from#the ground (so you see ancient long extinct plants in its higher branches and contemporary plants close to/on the ground)#The mycelium helps shield and feed extinct plant life that could not otherwise survive in the contemporary environment#And the forest is big enough to produce its own weather (it is a rainforest and has been ever since the capacity for rainforests Existed)#It's not really a tree at all in any normal sense but an amalgam of thousands of types of plants-#Some growing on top of others and some interwoven beyond any distinction. It does form a superficially treelike structure#(mostly in order to physically support its own mass) with a very wide 'trunk' and massive 'roots' (which end in actual roots).#It feeds on its own perpetually shedding and decaying 'body' and any animal life that dies in the forest is VERY rapidly#decayed and absorbed by the mycelial network (to the point that many large scavengers cannot survive in this forest)#(If you kill a cow and leave it on the ground for just 1/2 hour you'll see little strands of mycelium already growing up around it)#The fungus fruits and spores on a very infrequent basis (scale of ten-thousands of years) which causes the forest to very slowly spread#Fortunately this isn't really an existential threat because the spread is VERY slow (even on a geological scale) and the fungus#itself is rather mundane in nature and cannot usually compete against established fungal networks in other places.#Though there are little Ur-Tree mycelium groves and woodlands in other parts of the world that may (over untold millennia)#generate their own Ur-Trees (there's already a few but they are all MUCH smaller and not readily recognized as the same thing)#WRT THE TRIP:#Most of what I'm describing is a DMT trip but consumption of high doses of Ur-Tree mycelium has both mundane psychoactive effects#and IS kind of the person experiencing the fungus' entire lifetime and seeing flashes of the world's actual evolutionary history.#The amount of material knowledge that can be accurately gleaned from this this is VERY limited though.
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#i think i just really need a job#ive lowkey been like throwing all my extra time into practicing coding#and im just gonna keep doing that until i find employment#i think everyone can code but coding well is hard š#i always think im a solid front end person but then i see how the professionals do it and i feel like a clown#that tweet i saw the other day like āborn to yaoi forced to labor#carve that in my gravestone#ig also not all my extra time by the end of the day when im done#i kinda dont want to then go draw i kinda wanna doomscroll youtube shorts#or have a 4hr documentary playing while i smack trees in acnh#feel like that reveals a lot of how ive come to view art
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