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t-rexdescendant · 2 days ago

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[CRACKS KNUCKLES] ITS TIME FORA READ MORE LADS!!!! GRAB A CUPPA, SIT DOWN AND FREE UP YOUR SCHEDULE THERES ALOT OF SHIT TO READ

OKAY LETS START OFF WITH SUE Wetted Stones Unturned: she LOVED her citizens despite all the hell she's been through. She's gone through three massive population shifts over her grand life. Her first city inhabited were all the prison wardens fleeing from the riots within Warden Of Nothing, she was made in a slap dash effort because of that. Wasnt built in too good of a spot ATOP being the 14th iterator made did some shit. But she didnt care, she loved them because she was built FOR them. Most of them were ascension fanatics and as a result the population stayed relatively low. Due to the result of exactly where the bulk of that population came from, the entire place had the EXACT same vibes as a show room expo. The entire place was squeaky clean, if you fucked up it was jover. She didnt care. She still loved them, even if it hurt 'removing' the 'blemished' citizens. The second round of population happened in the years leading up to Twin Stones being built. This was Voidless Seas Setting Suns and his followers. She still loved them with her whole worth. However, Voidless was a fucking idiot who never properly planned the building of his new iterator and thus had to quite literally harvest Sue of varying components, letting her HEAL from said loss and then doing it again. basically turning her into a massive organ donor. This only TANGENTIALLY broke her trust in ancients. And then Voidless stole her puppets motherfucking heart and basically killed her, shattering all trust she had in ancient kind Her third round of population came from the collapse of Looks Upon The Stars, Cascade of Endless Hope and sudden radio silence of Multitude of Endless Points. These people had migrated from Twin Stones when HE collapsed (had had basically build the group as a refuge hub). Sue during that time was basically running on fumes + basically puppet dead. When she was finally fixed up, she was VERY weary of them at first, and all but REFUSED to let anyone near her puppet chamber (within a hundred meters of it infact). This shit lasted untill the mass ascension and beyond. Why beyond i hear you say? well. Sue managed to keep her city alive, population and ALL going even when the world ended. Now dont get me wrong, she didnt force them to stay, they all willingly chose to stay atop her and ignore the MA happening all around them. As a result she loves them beyond all reason. Everything she does is FOR her city. She has done abhorrent things in the name of keeping her city safe. The entire group has done abhorrent things to keep the city safe. And brother, what her city wouldnt DO to keep her alive and well. The city was named Karma for a reason. They're all rough necks, and smell more like oil and fluid more than anything. And they love Sue just as much as she loves them. Not even Gateway could shatter that love, not even Rightful Retribution, Not even Patience Pulled Thin. All three mascaraed her population upon discovery, and yet, they still cling to one another, they rebuilt. Sue isnt just a home to them, she's FAMILY, if something needs to be done, she is asked and if she says no, its not done, even if it will help her. She is family to them all with no questions asked about it, she is their mother, their daughter, their friend. She loves them to the end of the earth.

Tyrant Sings Tales: Tyrant LOVED her citizens once upon a time. LOVED. EMPHASIS ON THAT. Girly was the golden child of Step Before Hell. If you ignored the prototypes in the region, she's the eldest and claims the crown of being the 11th born iterator. Her citizens worshiped her as a deity, THE means of a true and final ascension. She was lavished her entire life, every need she had was met. If she had even so much as a sniffle there was an army of maintenance teams running to her aid. Her puppet chamber had heated FLOORING kind of deal. Things started to grow dire however when her architect started drafting up another iterator, with the plan to use HER as a gestator. Now she didnt care about it, infact she was kinda down FOR it because she did actually want a child. However the problems arose and the divide between her and her population started to grow. Her architect, Heralds Promise Upon Open Flames, basically auctioned the rights to 'marry' her against her will, and Tyrant was VERY lucky that the person that won the bid actually cared about her. This was her first clue into how the ancients actually VIEWED iterators.

The next massive problem came from one of the 'bachelors' that lost the bid. Seven Fish Glinting in Barrels, one of the men responsible for the Iterator Project actually taking off and becoming what its currently known as. He threw a MASSIVE bitch fit over A: not being the soon to be iterators genetic donor B: not being the soon to be iterators main architect and C: basically being barred from what was the CAPITOL CITY of the local region. His solution to all this? orchestrate an entire war, putting not only Tyrant, but her newly built child named Demanding In Moments, their combined citizens, the cities AROUND them, all at risk. The iterator built for all this was Nine Birds Feathered Flaws. The war waged on for AGES, with Tyrant fighting tooth and nail for those under her care. Eventually, her citizens got actually whole ass bored with the war, and drafted up a new iterator named Monster Within Depths. This is where shit hit the fan. Tyrant's trust was completely and UTTERLY broken by that decision, and, for an iterator that was never told NO in her whole entire life. Flipped her shit. During the agreed evacuation cease fire, Tyrant turned her weapons ONTO her own citizens and all but forcefully ascended all of them with voidfluid related weaponry. This entire ordeal forced the shutdown of the ENTIRE Greater region, the sole reason why Tyrant wasnt shut down herself was because no one ALIVE knew how to shut down something THAT OLD. She has remained jaded ever since, and was responsible for hunting down several batches of stray ancients that called her region home after the MA. Her thoughts on Karma are bitter, but thats her sister's city, and who is she to slaughter them all.

Twin Stones: you ever wanted to see a city with such a vast culture and wealth gap it would make you physically sick? Twin Stones is your guy. 24th iterator born, and a fucking DOOZY aswell. Theres an entire thing with him i wont go into detail. Anyway, Twin Stones was the capitol of the entire larger group. His population was MASSIVE, only beaten out by Sue's population at her peak (post MA). Twin Stones entire city could be divided into two parts. The Upper and the Walls. Frankly, he couldnt give two SHITS about the Upper, they were built to be self sustaining, and all but worshiped his brother, Voidless. His citizens viewed him as a gloried alexa kinda deal, he was there to run the shit they didnt want too, existed to make their lives easy. Except. He wasnt even doing THAT. Sure he ran calculations and shit, but the actual running of his structure? That was all owned to the Walls. And all his fucks went to them. He made life hell for the Upper maintenance crews, and did everything in what little power he had for the Walls to make their lives easier. After all, they were the reason why he was even breathing in the first place. Yes he kept things friendly with the Upper, but there was always three sides of him that he kept for the maintenance crews, the wall jockeys and the wire divers of the Walls. He loved them just as much as Sue loved her citizens. Course all this came crashing down when he was forcefully sunk by Boundless Thoughts, Eternal Fractals Spiraling in direct retaliation to Voidless' doctrine breeching the region (and NO ONE wanted a Black Void repeat. Ever)

Nine Birds Feathered Flaws: He's an interesting thing with her relationship with her citizens. Nine, due to the war, never really HAD a population to start with, outside of a small handfull of military motherfuckers dedicated to helping him shoot where. Theres not much to write about her beacause well, you know, WAR basically making it impossible to live atop him, (or inside), and the fact that basically the entire top of her can was a massive weapons array. However, due to being built custom made for a custom made war, he's HIGHLY aggressive, and just. In general would NOT be a good iterator to live atop. BUT Nine had her uses after Tyrant flipped her lid and ended the war in its entirety. Elective Debate (the groups senior), basically called the MA happening before it happened, and also foresaw Sue's city refusing to go down without a fight and said "here's the deal. I keep you alive and running and YOU get to make sure nothing gets into the larger region, deal?". Said deal worked out PERFECTLY untill Gateway busted out

Gone With The Wind: Gowi is also interesting on the account he was purely built as a utility iterator dedicated to maintaining the many custom made communications arrays within the Region. Theres a whole story with him BUT his relationship with those living atop and around him was purely coworker like. He was friendly but not overly so. He was respectable, polite and generally pleasant to be around. Then he bugged out, drew Elective's ire and got thanos snapped for it

Demanding in Moments: ohhhh boy poor DiM. DiM was doomed from the start with veir citizens. Biological child to Tyrant, heir to Removal of Dynasties region, born into a war. DiM like Tyrant had every need of veirs met, probably even MORE so than veir mother. Vey didnt even have to ASK to have super cooled water provided to veri systems. Veir maintenance crews just did that, to make veir life easier. Vey enjoyed being spoiled rotten, between veir citizens and veri mother. Vey were loved, horridly, rottingly so, and it all but primed vem to being never able to ask for legitimate help. This was veir undoing when Glinting ended up forcefully rotten vem out once the war was prematurely ended. Vey lost everyone within an hour due to the rot payload, and unable to ask for help, rotted out fully down to the puppet. All veir life vey viewed veir citizens as family, friends and all the things inbetween. Vey loved to entertain them, help them, do whatever vey could to make their lives easier. If it wasnt for the tradgerdy, veir citizens and city would've also pushed against and survived the MA

Deep Inside Stone Crypts: oh BOY OH BROTHER. DISC has a whacky wild life. But she boiled down to her 'citizens' being basically researchers and scientists. The relationship between all of them was strictly professional... and then she fucking got launched into space and turned into a mini space colony and forced to pivot from being a purely communications driven iterator to keeping around 10k souls ALIVE. And she hated that. But what could she do? She, and they, were in fucking ORBIT, and if her people went, so did alot of her vitals. So she just sucked it up, let them did what they needed to do and kept her nose to the paper.

Twine Wrapped Leaves: Girl was in a similar situation to DISC. Her people were less citizens and more work colleagues. Nothing much to write home about them all, outside the fact that said 'colleagues' basically gave her the green light to do whatever the FUCK she wanted with genetic samples. Im talking the MOTHER of all unethical shit. Everyone took bets, including herself, over if one of her projects would survive gestation. She was the second biggest importer of alcohol, topped only by Karma and Sue. Her maniacal laughter was used as ringtones for ALOT of people.

Ascended By All Means, Next Step To Evolution and Next Step To Light: these three fucks never had a solid population on the account of being built and then launched into fucking space (again). All three were built with the intent to preserve and maintain life outside of the planet, and to run experiments on the cycle and how it would affect life off planet. Nothing to write about the three on that account. Though, Next Step To Evolution carried genetic samples of several ancient species of DNA and as a result can not commit violence against anything that has a heartbeat

Timelost Needle Weaving Fates: LOL. LMAO EVEN. Timelost never really had a solid population to call his own. Like im talking THREE fuckers lived atop him, and those were his architects (it WOULD'VE been four if one wasnt turned into an iterator in retaliation to his construction coughcough DISC). Timelost was build for research, like DISC and Wrapped. He was fully custom made so he ran differntly form every other iterator at that point. Bro was made to break time. UNFORCHIES. He also... freaked is fucking bean two weeks into being activated and literally slaughtered EVERYONE that was atop and around him. One survived, and that was Vault of Glass, Guardian Made Fate. Timelost doesnt really give a shit about ancients as a result. He just finds them funny

Gateway To Oblivion: oh boy. Void Satan himself. Due to the nature of his EVERYTHING, he has no population. Outside of One Whole Entire Ancient, named Looking Past The Veil, Emerald Storms Blessing. Gateway was built as a failsafe in the event Voidless Echoed. MF echoed and hell broke loose. To put a VERY long story short. MF kills Elective, permanently ruins Tyrant's karma, murders MILLIONS of people atop Sue and throws the entire region into chaos. Shit works out in the end but his can is completly uninhabitable to life due to its position over a massive sinkhole that leads to the Void Sea. once everything's said and done and Voidless is removed, he doesnt mind ancients, and will do as much as he can to help them, despite only really being a puppet.

Flowers After Flames: poor Flowers lmao. SO it was built as an entertainment hub. It's puppet chamber was literally a theater. Its puppet is a fucking centaur. It loved to entertain, it was a goofball, it wanted everyones lives atop of it to be filled with fun. Nothing more to write about here. It loved them untill the cliff it was built on physically started to erode from under it, forced the evacuation of its population. It didnt mind that fact, but good LORD did Elective want to beat the SHIT out of its architect for building it on a cliff.

Looks Upon The Stars: oh man. Another ancient turned iterator, yippe yay. His relationship with his citizens was of blood and family. They ALL survived Twin Stones collapsing. He was very VERY protective of all of them, he cared for them, just as much as they cared for him. No one gave a damn about ascension atop that can, or even apart of that group. They survived HELL and by the damn void they were going to LIVE a billion lives before deciding it was time. This man has told multiple high priests to go stuff it, he has PERSONALLY kicked preachers of the void off his can (assuming his citizens didnt egg them themselves)

Multitude of Endless Points: she was the lest population of the three in Abhorrent Imperative, like her brother, she was once ancient turned iterator, and took to that fact the easiest. She was willingly saddled with all the industrial regions, and thus... well. Girls a character for sure. Those that lived atop, around and in her are works of art. Truly. No one there had a filter. Slurs were just normal words to them. Multitude would cycle loop fanatics herself for fun

Cascade of Endless Hope: the youngest of the three, and by far the lest rough around the edges. They had the highest population of the three, and was by far the most habitable to anyone visiting. They were sweet, kind to anyone atop of them, and unlike their siblings, tolerated ascension as the means to an end. Despite their father, Fractals, being the one to sink Twin Stones, they dont blame him for the entire shitshow, considering they were also about to do some DRASTIC shit at the time.

Drown Within Depths: VOID RIGERATOR. Vis' people are dock workers, and that comes with that entire cabin relationship. Drown's people are loud, and so were vis. There was comradeship between all of them, and vis' opinion was always accounted for with every decision made with the rig. Vis was apart of the table, the family, if you talked back to vis, treated vim like anything else BUT a person? Yeah, woe, fish guts be dumped upon ye. IF the MA didnt happen, vis' people would still be around, (some of them still are! Most of the leg workers got glossed over)

Diamond in the Rough: oh boy. ir is a work of art. Not too high a population, ir was a fucking nightmare to live on, not becaues of location, or because of circumstance, or because of mechanical issues or because of anything else. No Rough sucked to live on because ir had the personality of a cactus. yes, ir cared somewhat about ir citizens, and mourned when they were gone. But jfc the disrespect ir had for anyone that wasnt Elective, ir's sibling or Timelost is profound

Opals in the Deep: Rough's less rough twin. Their relationship was solid with their citizens, nothing out of the ordinary. By that the least remarkable out of the entire group. They mourned the loss of them all, then moved on. Instead they spend their time making sure their sibling doesnt ruin ir's relationship with the rest of the group, lmao.

Monsters Within Depths: POOR MONSTERS. Built to be a population hub, much like Sue. Made to be sweet, made to be agreeable, made to be kind. All of that pissed away in an instant by Tyrant slaughtering her soon to be population. She mourned the population she never had, but she doesnt blame Tyrant for it. She understood why she did what she did, even if it hurts. Monster's was then put down as the next of kin in the event Sue became uninhabitable (assuming Ones Song and Dance was unable to house the population)

Kilns Burnt Over: Kilns was built as a transportation hub for the region, linking them to the rest of the continent. He never had a stable population, mostly housing quarantined material and those completing the immigration process. The MA affected him the most on the account he took note of EVERYONE that left the region to ascend. It hurt him like nothing else, knowing how many people were marching towards their inevitable echoing due to the shit that went down in the region. He still houses a gaggle of stray ancients still alive.

Teeth Wrapped Around Throats: lmao poor girl was never finished before the MA came into full swing. She never had a population BUT instead she makes do with taking care of the varying wildlife that calls her can home. She likes to grow fruit for them despite the entire region being in the fucking north poll and never hitting the double digits in the positive in summer. She always makes sure every animal that visits leaves with the mark

and now... Elective Debate: so. To start off, Elective wasnt always Elective, she was once known as Warden of Nothing, THE prototype iterator, THE motherfucker that caught everyones attention. THE bitch that caused the project's funding to skyrocket and for iterators to pave the way to dominating the times after her. Now, once the hype wore off her, Warden was repurposed into a fucking prison colony. And, like her name, treated them exactly for what they were, heretics, scammers, the scum of the earth. If it wasnt a petty crime, you went to HER. She worked her prisoners to death, never gave a shit if the bred within her. She took IMMENSE glee in punishing those sentenced to live in her walls and island. She never gave two shits about their well being, she hardly gave a shit about her WARDENS either. Living within her was hell. ACTUAL HELL. The larger regions name, Step Before Hell, was conceived because of her actions. She was a NIGHTMARE for live within. Eventually, tensions boiled over, with the iterator project in full swing and other more 'habitable ' iterators being made at that point, the children of the original convicts ended up throwing an entire riot, forcing many of the prison wardens and the watch guard to flee, resulting in the construction of Sue. Course this was literal ants vs a fucking GOD. As in, Warden was the GROUND below them. The SOLE reason why they succeeded in overthrowing her was because of Ten Bricks of Colour, Eight Pillars of Stone, her ARCHITECT, growing tired of Warden literally pulling the arms and legs off 'ants'. He helped orchestrate a small group of people to go into her chamber, shut her down, and then write her (while still alive mind you). They succeeded and Warden was overwritten with Elective Debate, the crowned mother of Step Before Hell

Elective was Warden's polar opposite. Caring, loving, willing to do anything and more to keep everyone alive. Her love, her ruthlessness carried over to Sue and Tyrant, physically drilling TO them underground to hook them up to her systems fully (Tyrant had some gestation issues early on, and was partially hooked up to Warden in order to survive). Their citizens became her citizens. Then the rest of the group was build, all of them hooked up to her, thus, becoming the massive behemoth she is today. Including Gateway. Now, Elective wasnt always a saint. The shit she had to do during the peak of the MA to keep Sue's city safe, her CHILDREN safe, was immense. The amount of echos in the region can almost always be linked back to her, assuming they're not apart of the Fractals Echo Swarm. This is evident with her exiling Voidless from her island, resulting in Sue's downfall, because if Voidless had his way, he would've bled her people dry due to his Black Void related experiments. She beats herself over that fact, despite being unable to do anything more about it. She loved the region, and the region loved her back, to the point where she has defied void related deaths nine times. The amount of effort it took to constantly repair her, maintain her, was immense, so many parts of her are just so unfathomably ancient, even the organics are fickle to work with because of her age. And yet, everyone put in the effort and more for her. Because she was the one keeping them all alive on so many fronts. She did everything and more for all of them. And eventually, that was her doom

AND THAT CONCLUDES STEP BEFORE HELL! I HAVE SEVERAL OTHER REGIONS, GROUPS, LARGER GROUPS, SOLO ITERATORS AND MORE TO DIVE INTO BUT GOOD LORD THIS IS ALREADY LONG ENOUGH

i wish i got to hear more about the dynamics iterators had with their cities as a whole because i think its one of those things that occasionally gets glazed over in favor of iterator social dynamics post-mass ascension. for this reason i am upgrading glass arena from civil unrest to civil war! anyways... tell me about your iterator/city populace dynamics 👀?

#call me the fucking YAPPER the way i have TOO MUCH ITERATOR SHIT TO TALK ABOUT

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barkbre · 2 days ago

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brat tamer chris who’s playing video games w his gf while smoking and you two have been passing the joint the whole time

ur on a win-streak and rubbing it in his face and he’s starting to get fed up and decides to get back at you by getting u cross-faded n waiting until it hits u like a truck

This.. this is LONG... LMAOO LIKE HIS DI- swapping this to crush instead of gf bcus.. listenn... the tension of high chris being ballsy with his crush has me in a chokehold!

Super smash bro's is a game chris prided himself in.....

and you're fucking DESTROYING chris right now- giggling and criss crossed next to him on the floor- his frustrated groans and continued hits of his joint fueling your laughter and ego.

and also. the room is so hot from smoking and sharing a beer.. and you're practically rubbing up on him like an animal would for affections and chris is very close to losing his shit.

after this round he sets the controller down and glares at you with a bitter laugh.

"You're a brat, y'know that?"

"Mmhm.. i do.. but being a brat is fun!"

"For you maybe!"

"Aw what? you dont like sassy?"

"Oh trust me i do- j-..just- you're a little bully."

"Ohh.. ohh pooorr chhrrriiisss... roll another joint for us because you love me soo much?"

"Groan. Whatever your highness wants i guess"

"Mm i like that nickname keep it up"

"Sure thing, Brat."

The flirting banter between you growinv much more.. intense while high... you feel warm in spots you maybe shouldnt about your best friends best friend.. josh would be hurrling over the balcony and whining on why you havent fucked yet.

you look over at the wrong time and Chris makes eye contact while licking the paper to stick- god.. that.. whoa.

His eyes glassy and red- lowered and heavy.. sexy so so sexy to look at.. are you staring?

"You're staring.. its not polite to stare you know?"

"Mm.. well why are you giving me hungry eyes like that huh?"

"No clue what you mean.. i'm just high.. my eyes just do that"

"Uh-huh... sure thing.. pass me that"

Its been about 20-30 mins and you've literally chunked through 2/4th of this joint and it suddenly hits you. HARD

and you.. notice how much closer Chris is.. and hes staring with a big grin.. is.. is this happening? maybe youre too high..

"Hey, Hon.. you alright over there?"

"Mm...mmmm...mhm..."

"Yeah? Pretty thing all doped up?"

"Shhhutup... stop.. you... are being.. mean.."

"Mmhm.. soo mean, baby."

and suddenly.. you've found yourself placed splayed out on your nice comfy bed.. and theres cold hands cooling your torso and your head is spinning when you look up and see Chris's large frame hovering over you

"Sweetness.. is this okay? the cold feel good?"

"Mm!- mhm... y..yeah..."

"Want more?"

"Please-please.."

"Oh so polite now..."

You find yourself almost fully naked now, Chris still fully dressed you whine, feeling the unfair power difference

"MmChrisss... clothes.."

"Hm? Nono, sweetie.. im keeping mine on.. you're too warm im just helping you cool down.."

"N-no y-you're being.. mean.. t'me.."

"Mm am i?"

"Yes.."

"You seem to like it.. a little squirmy there arent you?"

and now his hands are groping your chest and hips and throat and you're heaving and breathlessly moaning and gasping- the touch so elevated and intense now that youre high makes you sensitive.

And Chris has a stupid grin on his face. he can't stop smiling at how broken you look, his plan worked and he needs more of your pathetic persona...

You're shaking. Clawing his broad shoulders. Legs drapped over his shoulders while he presses your thighs into your chest, eyes rolling back with every thrust.

So dumbed out by Chris and the pot that yours shivering and your moans are airy and stupid sounding.

"F-fuckyes.. yeah... taking it so good."

"M-mm!-mmph!"

"Cant even.. ahh..hah... cant.. even function?"

"Mmah! ahh! ahfuck!.. d..deep!"

"Mm i know.. i know, baby.."

Soon his hands are around your throat holding you down into the bed while he fucks you deeper into such a submissive and relaxed state your body just gives into whatever Chris does. and he notices you cant keep your legs open from being soo fucked out and stoned he easily manhandles you into laying down on your tummy.. sliding his fat cock into your softened, wet, sticky core.

Chris's big hand in your hair yanking your head back while it's limp- finding ease in holding and pulling you where he wants you.

"goodah!- mm!- you're so fucking! pretty like this.."

"Mmm!-"

"You okay?"

He slowly stops to lean down and kiss your sweaty, soft face, waiting for any type of reply

"M-yeah- ple-please.. need.. you.."

"Yeah? you know you can tell me to stop whenever, right?"

"Yeah!- t-trust you, Chris.."

"Good.. good...want me to continue?"

"Mmhm.."

Safe to say.. you guys fucked the high out of eachother and fell asleep with the sounds of Super Smash Bros loading screen.

#until dawn #until dawn smut #until dawn x reader #until dawn chris #chris hartley smut #until dawn chris hartley #until dawn chris x reader #chris x reader #chris hartley #chris pls #chris hartley x reader #chris until dawn

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churrobird · 1 day ago

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short mini-fic inspired by this post by @magnecalliope and tags by @femboyclownpierce

pangi enjoyers i dont know what inspired me to write this from pangi's POV because i dont really watch him outside of ros.... if i got his mannerisms wrong, im sorry

The tiled floor and wooden cabinets of the castle's kitchen were cold against Pangi's scales. The cold was really the only thing keeping him present, and a deep part of him despised it.

He dragged his eyes up from where he had been staring at a red stain (it wasn't blood, blood dried brown, but his heart thudded in his chest all the same) to look at Ros, desperately trying to ignore the red figure right behind her.

Pangi had found Ros in the kitchen, having tracked her down after noticing the absence of purple. She was leaning heavily against the counter, not quite falling over, with an open bottle of fruity wine in her hand. She wasn't absolutely wasted, not yet, but she was certainly on her way there.

She had looked at Pangi, her eyes wet, and asked him if she could complain to him.

Pangi was... trying, at this whole "being genuine friends with Ros" thing. It was hard, after Pili had burnt him so deeply; he didn't really remember how to be a friend.

But what he was good at was listening in on gossip, and if his love of messy chisme helped Ros get out all her woes, then no one could fault him for it.

And, Void, he knew Ros had issues, with all her violent and sacrificial tendencies and what he had heard Pili yell at her about her self-worth issues, but...

She went on, and on, and on. How she tried to make everyone happy, and how it never seemed to make her happy. Everything with Owen, which he had to shove down his old feelings of triumph about, which now felt sickening. Being Queen while Foolish was dead, and how Red and Green had hunted her every day, and how she didn't fault Pangi for it anymore, but it still scared her, even now.

It was when she finally started talking about Pili and everything he did, did Pangi ask for the half-empty bottle, and joined her in her drowning.

Halfway through whatever this was, with Pangi sobbing over his dead best friend who came back but didn't truly, and Ros sobbing over her twice-over murderer who made her angry and scared and confused, did Clown walk in.

It was an interesting experience, for Pangi's heart and soul, to be near-yelling about how Pili had died, and then for Pili's murderer to walk in the room.

All at once, he was slammed with this nauseous feeling of rage-terror-grief, spurred on by dulled memories of past lives and the haze of alcohol. For a moment, his mind screamed to just attack Clown right then and there, but the last remaining vestiges of his preservation instinct held him back.

That and... it would probably upset Ros. It was strange, how something like that mattered to him now.

Clown had just stared back at Pangi and, to his surprise, silently walked over to where Ros sat on the floor, and dropped down behind her, leaning against her back.

That's where they were now. With Ros still on a mad rant about Pili, and Pangi was trying to pay attention, trying to be a good friend, but it was getting harder and harder with a certain jester in the room.

Clown was entirely still. This alone set off every alarm bell in his head. A still, dead-silent Clown was a Clown that was planning to strike when you least expected it, and it nearly made Pangi ready his end crystals in his hotbar.

But the longer he sat here, the more he realized that wasn't all. Clown was still and silent, but he was relaxed. His posture loose, all of his weight supported against Ros. The archmage had an arm wrapped around the architect, something that normally would send the shocking fear of being grappled into anyone, but Ros had simply gotten hold of Clown's other arm, the grip being reciprocated.

For that matter, Ros was confusing too. Her hold on Clown tightened as she got more and more emotional in her ranting, until her knuckles turned white and her nails dug into the dark fabric of Clown's sleeve, like Lifesteal's deadliest player was just her emotional support stressball.

He would've expected Clown to protest in any way, but the only acknowledgment the jester gave was a soft, mumbled hum and his head lolling against Ros' shoulder, and that's the moment Pangi finally realizes,

Wait, is he also wasted?

He really didn't expect Clown to lower his guard at an event like this enough to get drunk, even if it was hosted by Ros. He also didn't expect Clown to be okay with showing off this much softness in the presence of someone like Pangi. He knew Ros and Clown were friends, by Ros' own admission, but he didn't know...

(It reminds him of Pili, and his gut churns. Days and nights spent deep underground, laying against each other and the potion machine. The sound of turtle eggs hatching and the feeling of Pili's soft fur against his scales. Sometimes, only when he's just moments from sleep, he would feel a soft, wispy caress on his head, and he felt safe.) (He felt safe with his best friend by his side, and a dark specter keeping watch over them.) (He wonders how Ros feels about getting both in just one person.)

He reaches for the bottle between him and Ros again. There's smudged purple lipstick on the rim. He doesn't care, hasn't cared about anything since Pili died, and takes another swig.

#i should probably make a tag for my writing huh #churro chirps #<- that works for now. ill change it later if i feel like it #this mini-fic really got everything. implied pangili and rospierce. coinduo angst. lifesteal past lives references. tr!clown analysis kinda #there was supposed to be dialogue but i wrote this in 40 minutes right before class and dialogue wouldve taken longer #i love angst AND fluff. yippee!!!!!!#anyway thank you magnecalliope and femboyclownpierce for the banger fic ideas yesterday. im Normal.#honestly maybe ill properly write this from ros' perspective sometime. no promises tho.#btw this isnt beta read at all because of the aforementioned “i wrote it in 40 minutes before class”#so if you see any spelling or grammar mistakes. no you didnt.

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iatrophilosophos · 2 days ago

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Gonna jump off of this tangentially bc there's another thing here re: right wing health politics

The right is engaging with concepts that are fundementally more reflective of what I consider to be reality than a lotta left *and postleft* positions on various health issues. They start from a dogshit place and they end in a dogshit place and I have a fundementally different value system, ontology & epistemology; i in no way think we need to "hear them out"; and there's like... a lot of topics they engage with w/ internal consistency where most other contingents dont

Take rfk's funky treatment farms thing & specifically the anti MAT stance. Anti-MAT in abstinence-based conservative addiction programs *makes more internal sense* than most arguments for MAT coming from liberal & left contingents; because MAT a b s o l u t e l y just functions as safe supply for plenty of people. If you want people off drugs full stop, you should be anti-MAT. I'm not pro abstinence-only and I am pro drug access but I feel like I'm dealing with the same basic reality here, as opposed to the myth that methadone doesn't hit/doesn't count/whatever.

I think this is also true re: porn addiction. For all intents and purposes, within social demographics that are anti-porn, porn addiction is a consistent concept that is *more* reflective of addiction as a sociological condition than the dx SUD. I don't think it's a flawless analysis of sex, desire & pornography or anything but it does offer a bare-faced recognition of some dynamics that leftist contingents often bury. SUD overmedicalizes use and obscures sociological factors contributing to people being unable to navigate their relationships with substances in whatever way is desirable to them; it removes agency from drug users; and its logics result in ineffective interventions on both institutional and grassroots stages (e.g. detox&dump). I honestly feel like smashing my head against the wall whenever I see someone try to dunk on some dingus who's saying porn addiction is real because it's a habit people aren't able to easily abstain from that ruins relationships and social connections by going "ummmhhh akshually ☝️🤓 porn only ruins relationships because you are intolerant of porn 🤪" because they're so...fucking...close...to getting it...and yet.

And that's not even touching the fact that the Main *highly effective* right wing health propaganda strategy is just...telling people they aren't stupid and they're right to distrust their doctors, two things that Are True. "You aren't stupid" is such a powerful phrase coming from a perceived medical authority that the next words out of their mouths can be directly abusing and derriding their audience and it STILL works.

The difference between right & left wing alternative & DIY health space is also exceptionally stark, where left&postleft herbalism is full of grief circles and mental health and flower essences and right-learning herbalist groups on fb&whatever are full of people seeking help for every day health complications out of financial necessity and/or medical distrust.

And like...Do Not Get Me Wrong, I'm not trying to say "the left needs to try harder to appeal to middle america", i ain't even a leftist, nor do I have actual affinity with right wing alternative health, nor do I think what they actually discuss re: those health complications with their fucking colloidal silver and bad information practices has much if any merit. I'm more trying to illustrate how damningly authority-brained even purported anarchists are when it comes to medicine and how little backbone is demonstrated when it comes to criticism of either the current medical establishment OR the concepts of a professional medical class that are presupposed in discourse, where access to that class supercedes the tools and knowledge it's actually composed of.

And it's like hard right bc like I been saying there's no good manual there's just a buncha mostly bad/only partially applicable/etc sources to sort through and a bunch of attempts to be made to actually utilize and refine it, but like, the only way to really start is to get incredibly critical and talk about health and medicine a lot and actually like, try to find an ANSWER (or pieces od it) instead of access to a service

And a lot of it is cope. It is easier to hold an ideology where "our side" just needs to "win" and we get to maintain that comfortable imperial core status of access to basic-needs-as-services (or perception as such bc honestly, who has good medical access? Not most ppl i know) instead of reckoning with the fact that, as we like to say, nobody is coming to save us and the only answers for most ppl are gonna be the ones they can come up with...because actually working this shit? I mean i love it its my main personality trait but for a lot of people its fucking boring and hard and feels bad because pressing questions want pressing answers, and a lot of us don't have pressing answers. Sure, there are people out here who have a reasonable starting place with what to do in keeping people with at least some conditions alive for at least an amount of time, hopefully enough time for further answers, but to actually get to that point it's a lotta deep dives into stuffy noses and ear infections and mild cases of Whatever. I can do all the grandstanding I want about how much value there is in grasping a little bit more security and autonomy, but I also recognize for a lot of people it feels like peanuts, it doesn't seem fast enough, it doesn't seem good enough. And they're RIGHT. But it's a start, it's what we have, and i hope to fucking God it's really on the way to something.

I think a thing that i find deeply frustrating from every political & philosophical perspective is a deep lack of engagement with medicine. I think at the very root of it is a sense of professional/expertise/authoritative domain. Most people do not talk about how to make medicine happen, they talk about creating conditions conducive to producing an effective medical class +/- production appartus. Anarchists are just as guilty of this as communists as reformerists: you can't tell me that most of the people who gesture at projects like four thieves, open insulin, boobs not bombs (don't get me started), and various street medicine projects aren't also just invoking the image of a detached force of competent agents.

I'll be a hater until the end of time but sometimes it is kinda hard to blame ur average disabled civvie's knee-jerk "what about my meds" because the question is conspicuously absent or relegated to ignorant grandstanding so, so often. Anyone actually critically examining the projects we often cite as easy, publicly available examples will quickly note that they *do* have deep flaws and vulnerabilities. Medicine is conspicuously absent from the texts we cite, pearlman doesnt talk about it, postciv! doesnt talk about it...because these works, no matter how much love I have for them, are really not actually concerned with disabled people all that much.

Most anticiv ppl i know are disabled/medication dependent ourselves & working on it, it's just like really fucking hard, and really hard to generate Texts(tm) while also doing the thing. It's a weird, long, slow process that I'm getting progressively better at & have been for years, but it's also something that happens in conversations and relationships and it's hard to iron out and commit to paper when honestly, synthesizing an effective, sustainable, bioregionally feasible medical MO in current times IS a field in its infancy AND one that looks radically different for every cohort because we are located in different places and starting from a point of different needs/conditions of priority.

Acting like the people who prioritize this just Have It on lock and will get it figured is doing everyone a disservice--it's a paper thin posture that disabled ppl are gonna see through, and it's reinforcing the idea that the average person in the imperial core doesn't need to have any concept of what they'd do with, idk, kidney stones or conjuctivitis or Whatever because they can Just See A Professional About It, even though we ***know*** that that idea doesn't hold up for tons of people NOW, let alone as collapse continues.

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pearlcrumbs · 2 days ago

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Master List of My HOTD Merch :3

I'm just really excited to show off all the stuff I have, I never have anyone to gush to about it so. I also apologies for any purple glares I forgot to turn off my neon light

First off; my wall collage

I wanted like wall art of some sort but I couldn't decide of who so I just kinda got a bunch of pictures printed lmao. Sometimes it feels weird of me but I still like it. I like that Aegon and Rhaenyra have the same expression in their main photos (doomed siblings fr) I also put my fav dragons from each side (Sunfyre & Caraxes my beloveds) There was also supposed to be a Davron photo but they were like backwards with the rest of it.

My life size, stainless steel replica of Blackfyre

It is heavy and it is sharp, this was like of the first things I bought myself and when I got it, I had my boyfriend throw apples at me and it sliced them. I got it off Etsy from a shop called Sharpedgeknifes. Wasnt cheap but worth it to have a sword so

My Funko Pops

Okay before any Funko purists come after me, there are the only ones I have out of their boxes. And I kept the boxes. But Aemond was my first one and as I've said, Jace and Baela are king and queen of my desk. My young Alicent is to match a friend of mine who has young Rhaenyra! Rhaenys was a Christmas present from my brother (may she rest in peace). I also cried in the middle of Target when I got Rhaenyra, Baela and Jace cause I was only gonna get Jace but my boyfriend demanded I let him get me all three.

My Aemond and Jace keychains!!!

THESE ARE ACTUALLY MY MOST PRIZED POSSESSIONS!! They're from ShellsNRosesArt on Etsy (Whos also just a great artist, I'm pretty sure thats their name on all platforms too). But my friend with the Young Rhaenyra funko actually has Luke and Helaena to match mine!! I love them so much actually The Calendar

A Christmas present from another good friend of mine!! And yes, February is Rhaenyra and Alicent (Strange coincidence but)

Coloring Book

It's sideways but I got it from Target I think. I have not finished coloring a single picture in it lmao

Egg

It lights up, I got it for Christmas. I think its from Target too but I dont know.

Dark Sister

I have an itty bitty Dark Sister I think from Amazon because I jokingly asked my mom for a full sized one and she got me the little one because she thought it was funny. its very cute

Book

Bought this off Amazon, it got delivered to the wrong house so I had to awkwardly steal it from my neighbor's porch. I got it solely to look at the pictures. I'm a simple guy like that. It also has my favorite Aegon still ever in it.

Hat

This is not one of the actual ones from like the whole New York thing (I wish. I got it off Etsy from MoonlitMile. I do actually wear it outside and I did recreate the Harry Collett photo when I got it. I was very excited.

Sunfyre

Theses are from an Etsy shop called KaylaKaiserCreations and theyre so cute!! They make all the dragons but I got Sunfyre cause he's my favorite colors and also the prettiest. They're also not that heavy and just the cutest.

Crown Necklace & Pin

These were both gifts, I think they're both from Hot Topic. I think the pin is Balerion's skull and the necklace is obviously Rhaenyra's crown. I also think the crown can double as a ring if it'll fit your finger.

Thanks if you made it this far, I was just really excited to show people!!

#house of the dragon #hotd #rhaenyra targaryen #jacaerys velaryon #aegon ii targaryen #baela targaryen #lucerys velaryon #aemond targaryen #alicent hightower #helaena targaryen #sunfyre #caraxes #daemon targaryen #team green #team black

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As incredible as it seems, i really like your idea for obsessed sir pentious just acting like a normal romantic partner for alastor (just a little glingy). Dont get me wrong im loving the dark stuff happening in your au, i just thought that sometimes you need a little break from all the dark stuff, a little cup of fluff, a bit of a "safe heaven" you know??

I also dont think that pentious could be same level harmful like vox, vaggie, valentino etc. Yes hes still obsessed so i imagine him wanting to hold hands, watching alastor sleeping, stalking him a little bit but not doing much besides that, making him take care of the eggbois, playing fighting, maybe creating deer related inventions to try impress alastor 🤔

Im a sir pentious fan i think that noodle is just a simple man with simple wishes 💅😅

Yeah, that's sorta my same thought process. Obviously everyone is pretty much OOC in this AU, but I do genuinely try to make it sorta "in character" for them. Like what if these character's with their canon selves WERE put into this situation and how would their obsessions vary?

And Pentious, out of everyone, was like the one character I really couldn't think bad things for. He's just such a wet cat of this series. People call Lucifer pathetic? Did you not SEE Sir Pentious at all? When someone had asked what he'd do, I remember being a bit lost and just saying he offers a bunch of harmless gifts to Alastor that Alastor declines or destroys in his face. And I think at the time I mentioned him being a bit stalkerish, but I might be remembering wrong. But yeah, Pentious' worst crime being a harmless stalker compared to everyone else just feels like it makes sense for him.

And I definitely remember talking about how having some light-hearted stuff in the midst of the dark stuff would probably be good for the AU! I think it was about there being a good end in the AU where the curse is lifted, but it's more or less what you said. The dark stuff can get pretty boring/mind-numbing after a while if there's nothing to like, break the monotony so to speak. It's kinda why, while the AU definitely has some very dark content with it, I have always thought about it a bit more like a dark comedy. Not always obviously, but the whole idea of Vaggie making traps, Charlie's delusions about Alastor and Vaggie's relationship, Lucifer just under the impression they have an "enemies to lovers" thing going on, and even Rosie's and Alastor's occasional lunches together were always meant as sort of dark-comedy parts of the AU. Nothing serious. Heck, both Sir Pentious and Niffty are actually just silly jokes all in all. They're both the most harmless of the crew. This might seem strange with Niffty, but I never really imagined her succeeding in her advances. And like I said, Pentious is just a puppy pretty much. I never imagined (in part because I was never able to) think of anything dark for his character to do. And with you're own thoughts about it, I think it cements the idea for me that Pentious doesn't really have anything dark going on (again, aside from stalking but he also just watches others sleep in the main series, soooo....).

Pentious also works as an occasional "sidekick" so to speak seems kinda fun. It'd be similar to that sort of relationship you see in kid shows where Character A is clearly in love with Character B, and Character B ignores it or brushes it off but will use that crush to their own benefit. Sheldon and Jenny's relationship from My Life as a Teenage Robot would probably be a fairly good sum up to Alastor's and Pentious' relationship? Pentious is way too obsessed from stalking to creepy shrines and poor attempts at flirting, but the guy doesn't really harm Alastor nor wants to harm him in any way. And to be honest? I feel like Alastor would, on some occasions, maybe throw a bone. If only because it wouldn't make Pentious start pushing any harder. Plus, Pentious being more "normal" in the love department compared to everyone else is a bit of a nice contrast to the monstrous actions of everyone else. I never thought about how his obsession would actually be (again, aside from gift-giving and being a doormat to others pretty much), but I do like the idea he would just be in a nice relationship with nothing really terrible happening.

#Anonymous #Hazbin Obsession AU #cel answers #cel rambles

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silentsockfeet · 3 months ago

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with the obvious addendum that act 3 isn’t out yet and we can’t form true opinions until the show’s officially done, i’m still really feeling like it could have maybe benefited from a third season. they’re hitting all the right plot points and those moments are full of really intense emotion, but everything in the middle feels so underwhelming in comparison and so much of it still feels rushed to me. idk

#arcane #arcane spoilers #i could kinda deal with it act 1 bc there was a lot to cover through the fallout after s1. but act 2 i'm reallyyyyyy feeling it #like dont get me wrong it's still so so so good #and i guess that's what makes it so much more frustrating #like you can see all the ways it can be just that littlest bit even better #but i guess if the biggest complaint viewers have about your show is that they want more then that already says a lot you know #anyway #it's the warwick / isha plot that bugs me specifically bc isha (love her to death) feels lowkey like a cop out #introduce a kid just to heavy push the 'cycle of violence' 'find your humanity again' character arcs only to kill her six episodes later #like EVERYONE was saying 'ive never seen a character so obviously created to die'#the subversive thing would be to have her live and show the cycle of violence is ending or something #but here's another broken kid killed by the system here's more proof that jinx is. well. a jinx.#idk idk idk #and warwick. i wanted so much MORE #heavily build up warwick all through act 1 just to have him die end of act 2 #we barely got to see him at full power.#we barely got to see him with vi and jinx.#we barely got to see him reckon with the man he was and the monster he is now.#we got next to nothing before he's just dead. again #and again those scenes hit SO GODDAMN HARD. THEY ARE GOOD. but they couldve hit even harder if they just had more time to flesh it out !!!!#but again again no act 3 yet so who goddamn knows at this point #they aint dead til we see the bodies and even then they might not be dead bc thats just how arcane works #but fuck i just wish we sometimes had time to sit and FEEL things before the next new thing starts #ok im done rambling i just had to say something somehwere because its driving me insane #my posts

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unhappy-sometimes · 3 months ago

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here's a playlist of (mostly) historically accurate love songs that twiyor has most definitely danced to on vinyl: youtube, spotify, apple music

some fast, some slow, some made for dancing, others probably not (but i still like them so i included them anyway), i'll add songs as i think of them

#the job i had through most of college was working for a music professor who was OBSESSED with jazz #his specialty was the golden age of captiol records #especially stuff from arrangers like billy may and johnny mercer and such #my boss introduced me to so much great music #he was such a genuinely good person. the very definition of good.#well i mean he's still alive so i should say he IS a genuinely good person lol #anyway #i've really enjoyed listening to jazz and doowop and stuff like that for a while #and now i have an excuse to share it #a lot of twiyor fanart of the two dancing is usually of them slow dancing #which is cute dont get me wrong but i also want them dancing so goofy like idiots #so here we are #also please check out the playlist i went through the trouble of putting it on three platforms #sxf #spy x family #loid forger #spyxfamily #yor forger #twiyor

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dykedvonte · 3 months ago

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You ever just see a Mouthwashing take that makes you want to bang your head into a wall? I literally just saw someone claim Curly couldn't have been emotionally abused by Jimmy before the crash because he was in a higher position of power than Jimmy.

-Shrimp Anon

The mouthwashing fandom has shown me that people genuinely do believe that certain types of abuse are not as detrimental as other types especially when they deem those immune/resistant, ergo, believing one is objectively worse no matter how it affects the person nor the intersections of power, history and dynamics at play.

Get ready cause this is a yap session:

Cause like it's heavily implied that Curly and Jimmy's friendship was toxic and abusive, pointedly in the direction of how Jimmy uses Curly's belief/comfort in him. Curly wasn't forced to enable Jimmy but he was emotional and mentally on edge around him in almost every scene in some way. Mental and emotional abuse are not contingent on what positions you have at work. Yeah, he's Jimmy's boss but he was Jimmy's friend first and it's like getting into Psych discussion to talk about how social power tends to overshadow any perceived organizational power in the human mind. People are concerned about their jobs ofc but they tend to hang onto and put more value/investment into their personal relationships, hence why there tends to be laws and restrictions around mixing the two.

I always see the sentiments that "Curly is a grown ass man", "Curly is bigger than Jimmy", "Curly is Jimmy's boss", "He just needed a backbone" as criticisms of Curly and while I do agree that on the surface level all of these to be true and viable ways Curly could've taken more control of the situation, I often look at the parallels of Anya and Curly as victims of Jimmy pre/post crash.

The way Jimmy talks to Anya post crash is how he talked to Curly in the pre-crash segments. It's hard to pin-point mainly because we know he hates and wants nothing to do with Anya compared to his contrary but similarly handled obsessions with Curly. It's a weird sort of "honey-moon" effect of abuse Jimmy does in terms of emotional and mental victimization. He is always horrid to Anya, always talking down or questioning her abilities and thoughts in a situation, this of course includes the harassment and assault. However, he has a moment of attempted gentleness/conditioning when he question her about the mouthwash when she's contemplating drinking it at the table. The key difference is he has no personal investment in Jimmy outside wanting nothing to do with him, meaning there is no sort of romanticized version of him that he can condition her off of. He knows this, hence, why he always reverts to trying to make her to scared to oppose him.

This sort of give and take of "kindness" doesn't work on her because she knows he is just doing it to take more from her than whatever he could possibly give but it reflects even the "softer" scenes between him and Curly where he always rewords or rephrases Curly's sentiments and concerns to sound more shallow. He is feigning a deeper understanding by reworking Curly's emotions into something bad and needing to be hidden. Everything is laced with envy and resentment, an outburst just around the corner, I mean he even slams the table in the birthday party scene, a tactic in emotional manipulation to set the victim on edge and cloud their ability to respond. Even if Curly knows Jimmy won't get physical in that moment, the physical actions is intended to make him back down in the confrontation in case it does. This is something that is just not person specific. It ingrains itself into how you interact with the world and life and it shows in major and minor ways with Curly.

Post-crash, the abusive nature is more in tandem to the physical victimization Anya went through and the stripping of voice and autonomy we see take place. Like the parasite in HFIM, Jimmy speaks for Curly most of the time and puts words in his mouth, similarly to how he takes Anya's plans as his own. He very commonly, with the both of them mind you, supplements the worst aspects of himself into them; pettiness, selfishness, lack of understanding... And tries to cover himself with their best qualities; kindness, planning, initiative, etc...

These parallel are just to say that positional power has little to do with if a person can be abused and how it can even be flipped to further the abuse. There is no doubt that Curly could've picked up on Jimmy's envy of his position hence another reason he never confronted him as a Captain but as a friend as doing so would immediately put Jimmy in a space to be confrontational/combative.

I think the disdain some people have when they talk about the heavily implied if not implicitly stated emotional/mental abuse Curly experienced being Jimmy's friend is when treating it as an excuse to why he didn't do more. I can understand that completely because it is not an excuse to why he didn't do more but is a very real reason people in his position in these scenarios can experience whether in the context of a work or social environment. However, I also think the way people talk about it really does demonstrate a bigger problem when talking about abuse when somehow who is/was abused is either part of the issue or enabled it.

Harkening back to the sentiments about Curly's inaction regarding Jimmy, I think the exact phrases I used/have seen show how there is an inherent belief that it is easier to overpower the effects of emotional/mental abuse that go in tandem with the perception of Curly as someone who should be able to. There is not an age you suddenly stop being susceptible to abuse nor a set point or low where you realize how it has affected you. You don't suddenly know to stand up or put a face on to face your abuser nor admit that you inadvertently enabled them to subjugate someone else to the same treatment. Maybe it's my psych brain but their is this growing belief that direct action is somehow easy or always the best method with the game shows you instances where it is not always the case. In real life that rings true too. He should have done more, but it's not impossible to see why he struggled to find a way or didn't even if it makes us mad.

It's not easy to suddenly gain a "back-bone". You don't immediately want to resort to aggression, especially if it mirrors the type you were a victim to. You don't want to believe you allowed yourself to be treated this bad, let it get that bad or allowed something bad to happen to someone else. It is easy to be in denial, to retreat to your thoughts or make excuses to avoid the painful truth. It's frustrating but in a way we know is relatable. It why we both hate and love Curly for it. We know we'd be better, we think we'd be better, we like to think we wouldn't falter in the same ways but it's always easier to say that from the outside looking in. It's easy to see what he was doing wrong because we are seeing it, not him, but the game really does make you picture what you would do if this was your raw reality and it's why this debate about Curly seems so never ending/contradictory. We can all say what we'd do but bottom line is that's much different when you're in the moment with all the emotions and human feelings attached.

I personally think Mouthwashing tackles the themes of rape culture, enabling, toxic masculinity, types of abuse and patriarchy in ways that are meant to deconstruct the typical straightforward views we mostly have of these concepts and how little subtilities of them are just as, if not more, detrimental than the overt/obvious parts. The game deals with the idea of little details and bigger picture in a way to show that sometimes the bigger picture is not the issue but the little details that make it up. It's why I have a personal dislike of depictions of Jimmy as the typical horrible person who would of course do something like this because the game is about noticing the little warning signs, the foreshadowing and foresight.

It's why I dislike the typical discussion of "bro code" and "boys will be boys" for the game because the game makes a point to avoid the standard depictions of such. It is about the type of men who still enable despite not condoning, agreeing or even perpetuating harmful beliefs because they can't see the little details or the ways it seeps into their everyday. The severity is not obvious to them as it was not obvious to Curly, Swansea or even Daisuke the way it was to a woman like Anya. There are little details about Jimmy that should ring alarms but if you are too naive like Daisuke, too distant like Swansea or too conditioned like Curly, they are just off markers.

There is 100% more constructive/concise ways to say "Curly was a victim of Jimmy's abuse on an emotional and mental aspect that clouded his judgements and perceptions in the scenario" while also critiquing on the side of "Curly still had a responsibility to protect Anya as a crew mate and Captain that he failed to do due to biases and stigma's he failed to surpass" without the weird condemnation people give him about should've knowing better than to let himself be manipulated by a person he considered a close, if not family/best-friend and had his own reasons to trust initially. Also stop being weird about victims of abuse in general with this fandom, like sorry not everyone has a like social epiphany the moment someone's nasty to them. People are treating it like you immediately know when you are in a toxic relationship immediately or comprehend when a person is actively dangerous and either it's your fault for not knowing how to leave/cut them off or you deserve it. Like the hypocrisy of people believing how certain fans treat the story reflect their irl views but not their own is crazy.

End statement is: I honestly don't even know man, I've been writing this too long and just like no man on that ship was perfect or really helped Anya when it mattered and I feel like pitting them against each other in discussion on who did the least or most or how it was justified sucks cause in the end Anya always did the most and best thing for herself.

#i also think it is because mouthwashing is first and foremost a game about rape culture and the patriarchy especially in work spaces #regarding women and centering conversation around Curly a man rubs people wrong because it does overshadow that commentary #but it still mixes other topics into its initial theming and message on how abuse conditions you to accept certain things that are harmful #and how getting used to a culture/enviornment does not mean you are happy healthy or most importantly safe in it. I personally like to #explore those aspects where it mixes all the themes so we can discuss the ways you have to watch out for things because there is a differen #in the idea Curly enabled Jimmy just because they were bros and because he was an example of another man afraid to step out from what #is a still oppressive system that does try to punish those who act against it even if they fall in the category of those who would benefit #from it as Jimmy and PE 100% represent that sort of misogynistic system where men that would be “good” are altered until they follow line #in a way both on the personal and professional level as PE is the corporate lock out and Jimmy represents the social and its just the issue #that the discussion of it sounds like “in defense of men” when I am more so trying to discuss how it is much deeper than men being scared t #upset other men but complacency is rewarded by not becoming another person subjugated hence as all the moments Curly does try to do #something we can tie it back to how Jimmy reacts and a possible penality from PE where we now need to address the ways to combat those #two concepts so we dont get cases like Curly or Daisuke or Swansea where male avoidance of the issue is considered neutral or even good.#i think most of this boils down the perfect victim mentality to where if someone who underwent or is being abused is not a perfect example #or accpetible type than their abuse can not be considered a valid or substantial reason for effects on their behavior compounded with the #fact that Anya's abuse at the hands of Jimmy is a systematic issue that Curly is a part of even if unwillingly and was more physically #violating and topical cause sometimes i have to remind myself that all media is still critiqued through the lens of the culture it came out #in cause i do think about what if this game came out inlike 2014 like the conversations would be sooooooo different could you imagine it?#but back the before statement Curly isn't perfect but I feel like boiling it down if hes a good person or man is not the point of the game #but more so good people can still be part of the problem and the idea of condemning a person for one act creates a false sense of #rightouesness and justice that does not aid the victim and in fact aids the abusers in escaping blame for their mulitple behaviors as we se #how the men on the ship tend to blame Jimmy for just one act against them including himself while there is a plethora of things Anya is #concerned about with Jimmy #and its not that Curly just made one mistake with Jimmy but more so we consider his actions more damning because he didn't stop Jimmy #instead of focusing on the fact Jimmy did what he did regardless of Curly and the consequence because we already know he's bad n maladjuste #which is problem in the conversation where the individuals are blamed but the system and perputrator are overlooked in a sense of acceptiab #complacency as we know how they are and the lack of tangibility to personally affect them on a larger scale like I should just make a post #on like cutting out the face when it comes it confronting systems of oppression rather than tag talking but just ask me to clarify if #you want that like im jus trying to say we avoid talking about Jimmy and PE so much cause it is obvious what they do wrong that we make #the initial and inherent problem out to be one aspect someone in this case Curly does and the the constraints they use to force actions

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mbat · 28 days ago

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i yet again do NOT understand why people think that what happened to steven in future came out of nowhere. the main show beats it into the ground how fucked up all this stuff has him! just cause he ends the main show in a good place doesnt mean that everything was solved! he solved the gem stuff but not himself, that was the whole point!

like. those people show that they didnt even pay attention to the show AND they dont understand trauma. like. shut the fuck up !!!!

#my post #su #liveblogging #how do you fucking miss the whole EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE MAIN SHOW #no child or teenager should go through that!! no one should tbf but especially them #like ok fine. other shows do this stuff all the time and theres no consequences. but su was never the show to do that lol #i know im bringing up discourse from years ago but the thing is is that people STILL hold these opinions!#like. bro athena p on youtube has THE MOST JANK su opinions. she doesnt like pearl or future ? hello?#like ok whatever you dont have to like something but then she starts going into *why* and its like. bro stop talking no #yet again its just like people that say that cassandras betrayal came out of nowhere. NO IT DIDNT FUCK OFF #im so mad dude its so easy to understand this stuff for me #also trauma can absolutely wait to manifest or show its ugly head #he showed concerning behaviors in the main show but. aughhhh whateverrr whatever whatever whatever #its also that he was finally in a good calm place in future and when youre in a calm place your trauma brain goes THIS ISNT RIGHT #it gets so used to the stressful situations you were in that itll still think things are wrong even when nothing is #because it cant risk bringing its guard down in case stuff happens all over again #or some shit like that. fuck #and steven? babey hes been in stressful situations for a long time #ew why does this post have notes lol i thought itd get like 5 notes. im not opening the notes thing lmaoo fuck that

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starry-bi-sky · 10 months ago

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I'm so annoyed. @kingcrow01 tumblr ate your ask about Danny's opinion on the League. tumblr i pressed 'save draft' why didn't you sAVE DRAFT.

ANyways I'm making a post instead. For everyone else, the ask was in summary:

What was Danny's opinion on the League now that he's left it? If he missed the familiarity of it, if he recognized the cult-like behavior inside it, and if he now detested his grandfather.

And to answer (again, grrr): It's complicated! We love complicated <3. Yeah, Danny does miss the familiarity of the League, it was still his home for the first ten years of his life and he has a lot of memories there. Plenty of good along with the bad, and while he's less homesick than he was when he was 10, it still hits him like a truck at random intervals.

Sam, Tucker, and Jazz are great, and he likes the Drs. Fentons enough that he's contemplated murdering Vlad for his meddling, but if he wants to eat the same food his mother used to make him and Damian, he has to do it himself and he can't get the taste right. No one knows arabic so he speaks it to himself because he doesn't want to forget his mother tongue, and he has a few books too. Frankly? He genuinely misses training.

Getting to use Sam's gym helps with his restlessness, same with training with Maddie, but he has no one on or above his level to go against other than his mother. And he only sees her twice a year at most. He knows that he's getting stagnant and he fucking despises it like a bad itch he can't scratch.

He feels conflicted about missing the League, however, since by now he recognizes the flaws and what was wrong with it, and he recognizes that it was cult-like. But even that is kinda, hrm, complicated? If this was a fic I would be able to go better into depth about what he has and hasn't unlearned because cult deprogramming is hard and Danny's doing most of this on his own.

Sam, Tucker, and Jazz have helped with the more obvious stuff: like the ecofascism, the disregard for human life, his emotional constipation; the more obvious stuff that shows in his behavior and personality. But none of them are professionals nor do they actually know the full extent of what Danny's life in the League was like. They only have snapshots since Danyal is very tight lipped about it. So they can only help with what they see themselves through Danny's behavior or word of mouth.

But in summary: He sees, for the most part, what's wrong with the League and disagrees with some of the stuff they do now. But he's very conflicted, and trying to dissect his feelings on the League confuses him. His protests about it whenever Sam and Tucker joke about it have at this point become mostly empty (altho it still causes him some discomfort), and its an inside joke between them three.

As for Ra's? Despises him. If only because Ra's wanted him to kill his little brother -- thinking about his motives with the League confuses Danny, cognitive dissonance and stuff, -- a lot of his hatred stems from "He wanted me to fight my baby brother to the death. I destroyed my relationship with Damian because of him, I had to fake my death and leave my home, and I will never meet my father or see my brother again because of him. Fuck that guy."

#dpxdc #dp x dc #dp x dc crossover #dpxdc crossover #dpdc #danny fenton is not the ghost king #danyal al ghul au #starry asks #demon siblings au #danny's opinions on the league is rather complicated but he knows that some of the stuff that happened inside was wrong. and while he's #always known that his upbringing wasn't normal -- and he took pride in that -- its only in recent years that he's learned that #this was a *bad* thing. that his upbringing was wrong. he's still kinda grappling with that.#danny's homesickness hits the worst when he's patching himself up from a ghost fight alone. stitching up his throat in his ghost form when #he gets hit with a deep child-like grief and the unwitting 'i wanna go home'. he's exhausted and sad and hurting and fucking *tired*#good mom talia al ghul supremacy. she's trying her best.#but yeah sam and tucker did a lot of good for Danny by becoming his friend. he's a lot better off than he would've been if he remained alon #'a child not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth' type of stuff. danny's aware of this and is incredibly grateful #for sam and tucker. and as a result can and will get violently protective. his moral code on killing can be summed up as: i dont kill bc i #value human life and it's inconvenient. but i will do it without remorse if i must.#vlad is only still alive because he's incompetent. but the ice is thin #catch me about to make an incorrect quotes post about this au. i am so close.

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