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transmaverique · 5 months ago

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amab and afab, if they were used as shorthand for the actual full phrases that they signify, with emphasis on the "assigned" part, and an understanding that they are enforcements of normative (ie, dyadic and cisgender and binary) sex, would be like. really useful. but people took the terms and started using them as shorthand FOR normative sex instead of the ENFORCEMENT OF normative sex. so when other trans people (almost always dyadic trans people) ask for your agab they are almost always asking for your Original Genital Situation. your starting point, so to say. and the reason FOR asking is also almost always bc they are trying to also enforce a certain kind of normativity within queer spaces (which is stupid bc being queer is inherently non-normative but here we are). like, you cant be a lesbian if you're ftm, bc you ARE m, so if you ARE a lesbian, then that means you're lying about some aspect of your identity. does that make sense?

it is always always always incredibly.... i do not trust dyadic trans people that use cagab terms, even moreso than i do not trust dyadic trans people that just use agab terms. agab is also coopted intersex language, but the "coercive" part of cagab SPECIFICALLY refers to medical "intervention" of intersex characteristics, such as "corrective" surgeries and hrt. i am deeply fucking suspicious of any dyadic trans person that uses those terms exactly the same as described above, even moreso if they do so bc "all gender is coercive".

like. yeah. that's true. but you use these terms to erase and overtake intersex discussions on the medical abuse of intersex infants. and i cant help but wonder why you would feel the need to do that.

#iirc it was also common to tirf ideology and the baeddel group #< notoriously intersexist group #to say nothing of any other tirf beliefs #both of these misuses of agab and cagab come from the same source #but it is . deeply disconcerting with cagab #bc its like. that is such a lesser known term in the greater dyadic trans community #you would HAVE to have known what it originally meant #either YOU are misusing it INTENTIONALLY #or someone TAUGHT you to misuse it INTENTIONALLY #people that are cruel and bigoted always want to believe theyre good people #so its hard to convince them when they are being bigoted #esp as marginalized people #and especially as a marginalized people that is particularly affected by the same enforcement of normative sex #the more i learned about this the more i learned abt intersexism in trans spaces #the more i notice it. its so fucking pervasive #and like u should care abt intersexism on its own but its like #no surprise that the ppl misusing cagab terms usually are transandrophobic (as the discourse du jour) and exorsexist #these things go together and reinforce each other #anyways it sucks bc ill see a BEAUTIFULLY written analysis of transmisogyny but so often there will be #like one thing. two things maybe.#and ill go to ops blog search a few keywords and lo and behold #they are transphobic. they are intersexist. they are racist. they are aphobic.#all forms of exclusionist politic in the queer community just lead into each other ad infinitum #nauseating... and #i will read the theory of people who disgust me or who are fundamentally wrong abt other ppls experiences bc i think they still have #valuable things to say but i am SO FUCKING TIRED of running into the same goddamn problem EVERY fucking time #i think its just the posts that get circulated the most that are like that #bc i think the majority of people dont actively seek out and learn abt new queer theory as it rolls in #or other ppls experiences in general #so they dont learnt to recognize the red flags or even realize why its bad in the first place

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