#batman ditf

[violent138]

"All of you, get up, we have a job to do." Jason declared, entering the room where several of his men were lazily playing cards.

"And who the hell are you supposed to be, kid?"

"Oh for fuck's--" Jason, glaring at them, puts his hood back on. The modulated voice that growls out is unmistakable. "It's me, dumbasses."

And everyone instantly shoots to their feet, grabbing weaponry.

[jasontoddenthusiastt]

Honorary appreciation post for this mentally exhausted sweetheart.

[goodoldfashionedengineer]

There are so many tragedies that come into play with Jason's death. From being doomed from the beginning by the writer, to how it happened, to no one ever finding out the truth about Sheila.

But the aspect I want to focus on is his funeral.

There were only four people attending.

Bruce, Alfred, Jim and Barbara.

Four.

This is sad in and of itself, especially considering that Bruce hadn't even contacted Dick so he wasn't there either.

But also because usually superhero funerals are big. The community comes together.

During Superman's funeral, the Justice League were carrying his casket. When Spider-Man died in the Ultimate universe, the entire church was full, with even J. Jonah Jameson attending to pay his honours.

But I think one of the best examples to compare this to is the death of Bart Allen, aka Impulse aka Kid Flash

The funeral is in a stadium. All the ranks are full, as shown in the background.

Bart was never meant to be long term, because the plan was always to bring Barry back. Bart was supposed to bridge that gap. Then sales tanked and they chose to kill him off sooner.

He was beaten to death by the Rogues.

So you have the doomed from the beginning aspect, they were both children when they were murdered, they were both in hero outfit and were both killed by a rogue/villain. And yet, Bart got this treatment of being recognised and honored by the hero community while Jason didn't. No big speech, no people coming up, telling tales or paying their last respects.

Just Bruce, Alfred, Jim and Barbara.

And you could make the argument "Oh, but Central City and Keystone love the Flash! They have a Flash museum! Even a Flash Day, honoring the Flash!"

But Gotham is also proud of having Batman. That's their protector, and Robin has been by his side for almost just as long.

[neurotic-sinkhole]

i just left my local comic shop. i just finished my last exam so i'm looking for the death in the family books as a little treat. there were none in this shop, so i go up to the register to pay for the couple others i picked up. when i tell the owner (he knows me a little, i'm a regular there) what i just said he just kinda smiled and nodded. i told him that i was really shocked that the whole thing with death in the family was that they let readers vote if robin should die. he laughed again, and NO JOKE said "my bad".

i asked him what he meant. he told me that he not only voted for jason robin to die, but that he campaigned in his little neighboorhood knocking door to door asking people to call in and vote. apparently it was like 50 cents per call back then so he was literally soliciting to kill robin.

when i was, might i say reasonably, surprised by this revelation, he then explained that there weren't really deaths in comic books like that yet. maybe some b or c list characters, but never someone so intergral to the story. so when he voted, he did it more to see what the writers could handle. how would they navigate the death of jason todd? how would the writers continue on writing the batman series, a heavily family infused series.

so the 72 vote margin that actually killed jason might because of my local comic book shop owner. he might have effectively been the reason jason died.

[daisybell-on-a-carousel]

We should talk more about the fact Jason got swarmed and attacked by a mob as Robin, like??? Hello. He had to be left there because the mob was too violent with Batman near. He had to be taken to the hospital.

Look at those injuries!!

The next time we see him he's forcing himself out of bed and putting on the Robin costume thinking "I've gotta do what I can to help, even if it kills me!"

The next next time we see him he has walked into yet another violent mob

I cannot stop thinking about this story and the effects it probably had on him honestly. Do you think it's made him nervous in crowds, do you think it made him trust others just that bit less. How long do you think he was being attacked before he was found, the scene had cleared. "I've gotta do what I can to help, even if it kills me!",,,,

Just the concept itself! I don't know about you guys but being attacked and grabbed and trampled into unconsciousness sounds absolutely terrifying! Did he black out, still getting hit, thinking he was going to die? Knowing he couldn't defend himself as his injuries to took their toll? At their complete mercy?

1986-87 Legends, issue #2 (the attack), #3 (the hospital), #5 (getting up), #6 (defending heros from another forming mob)

2010 DC Universe: Legacies, issue #6 (flashback panel to Legends moment)

[shyjusticewarrior]

Catherine tried to protect Jason from the effects of her mistakes. Jason assumed Shelia would do the same cause that's his reference for what a mother is.

[wildestheart4ever]

Do you think, if Jason never found out about Sheila and subsequently lived, he would have followed Dick’s footsteps and left?

Like, his and Bruce’s relationship was already becoming strained with the whole Garzonas thing and Bruce basically stonewalling him after believing that Jason killed the guy without even looking for evidence

Whether or not Jason seemed eerily cryptic is beside the point

[I know that the whole thing was left in the air but you’d think the world’s greatest detective would bother looking just considering the fact that it concerns his own son]

Then him blaming Jason for the whole thing that came after?

Trust would totally take a critical hit

All in all, I’m not surprised Jason was immediately gung-ho about finding a biological mother who wanted nothing to do with him.

But yeah, if Jason never went through that and thus probably never fell to the Joker’s hand, he probably would have left at some point and branch out with a new vigilante identity

Though I wonder how he would have faired. Because as far as I know, Jason’s run as Robin seemed kinda isolated - he didn’t get to form his own team or be a part of one [He only interacted with the Titans like twice ???]

He didn’t seem to have many friends besides that one pen pal……

Would Dick offer him a helping hand?? Help him get his footing as a independent vigilante

Resources probably would have been minimal. Would Bruce cut him off? I’d like to think he wouldn’t but if Jason’s methods did become lethal…….idk - though now that I think about it, Jason wouldn’t want his money

Bro would be working his way from the ground up

[rockingthegraveyard]

I love you, son.

[distort-opia]

https://www.tumblr.com/distort-opia/693230466074132480/top-10-gayest-things-batman-has-uttered-about-the

Literally screaming reading this. Show this to my friend, they don't even ship batjokes but even they acknowledge how gay it is. A part 2 maybe?

Ah yes, I love that post too. Sorry to have taken so long, but here's a Part 2 to "Gayest things Bruce has uttered about or to Joker"!

11) “It's me you want -- it's me you've always wanted. Free her and I'll let you have me. [...] All the bullets in all their guns won't stop me from reaching you... the adrenalin of all the years between us will carry me straight to your throat, Joker... and when the bullets finally bring me down... I'll drag you down with me.”

-- Detective Comics (1937) #532

12) “...but that isn't my mission here. It's him. I'm just as obsessed with him as you are.”

-- Batman (2016) #135

13) “Does he recognize me? Does he know who I am? I may never know. I'm feeling a terrible sense of finality... We've been linked to each other for so long, neither of us truly understanding the bond.”

-- Batman: A Death in the Family (1988)

14) “Don't you understand? I don't want to hurt you. I don't want either of us to end up killing the other. [...] It doesn't have to end like that. I don't know what it was that bent your life out of shape, but who knows? Maybe I've been there too. Maybe I can help. We could work together. I could rehabilitate you. You needn't be out there on the edge anymore. You needn't be alone. We don't have to kill each other.”

-- Batman: The Killing Joke (1988)

15) “Joker, you need to remember who you are, you just need to take my hand, and you'll remember your old life... [...] Joker! Take my hand! [...] We can beat this. Together.”

-- Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III (2019) #1

16) “I was afraid of what he'd do... when I was gone. [...] I wish he were still alive.”

-- Batman: Damned (2018) #3

17) “I made this wretch... I'll have to mind him.”

-- Batman: Lovers and Madmen (2007)

18) “Is he mirroring my broken psyche with his fake smile? Is the Joker... broken too?”

-- Batman (2016) #128 (I Am A Gun)

19) “If I beat you long enough, hard enough... You'll tell me.”

-- Action Comics (1938) #719

20) “I'm trying to figure out what the Joker was doing naked... does he always remove his clothes first?”

-- Detective Comics (2016) #1000

[spiritleigh]

Just remembered that I made this on cap cut a couple months ago 💀

[punkeropercyjackson]

Jason to Duke is 'I know love for my family still exists within me and it's because my heart is full of you and you are my favorite family and you made me want to live to the truest,fullest i could for myself,for you and for the good when i only saw the bad but that was never you and i've loved you for years far beyond how long we've known eachother and you're my signal of hope and chaos in my shadows of the past and unwelcome order'.Duke to Jason is 'I know my family still exists and it's because you are with me,when i need you,when i want you around,when i need someone to choose me and tell me i deserve to exist even if i'm imperfect and bruised and bite the hand that tries to control me but you treat me like me,not what you want to mold me to be,because what i am is exactly what you want me to be and i could never replace you for anyone else'

[violent138]

Thinking about Jason's death because of his second death-subsequent-return. It's a creepy inverse of the circumstances of Bruce's parents' death. Instead of the Waynes being stolen from, Sheila is a thief. There's a symbolic loss of innocence with the pearls, and a very similar loss of innocence for Jason who gets betrayed. While there was nothing Bruce could do for his parents and he was left alive, Jason still attempts to save Sheila and dies with her. The Waynes' killing has messy consequences, but it happens in an isolated place that's supposed to be familiar to them. Jason's death (while technically has less of an impact) is accompanied by an explosion, and it happens far away from his home and everything he knows. Bruce is the only constant between them, playing a similar role in both deaths.

[jasontoddenthusiastt]

Batman: Death in the Family (2020)

Happy Birthday Jason!

It’s hard to put to words how important you are to so many of us. Your 40 years of existence in the dcu may have been arduous and unforgiving, but everything you stand for will always resonate with fans who know and appreciate you.

[goodoldfashionedengineer]

Jason: "I've never felt more like a zombie and I've literally crawled out of my own grave"

[andstuffsketches]

was explaining jason's story to my friend as "its like if little orphan annie died at the end"

[ky-landfill]