#anti-zoophobia

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Yep, Just Like Her Other Issues, She Still Doesn't Give Her So-Called Main Female Lead The Spotlight She Deserves

Seriously, she did both Cameron and Charlie dirty in favor of her pets who everyone gets annoyed at are overexposed or the fact that she drops the og premise to focus on said mentioned pets. Also they really need to punished that woman who tricked Cameron into coming to the Haven because she's now trapped there. Also Charlie had so much potential in the pilot that's she reduced to a childish wimp who sees her much younger partner as a father figure and naively thinks that all sinners just made a few mistakes.

[vivziepopcriticalconfessions]

"I read Zoophobia and the last chapter of it focus on none others, but the romance between Addison and Gustav (a student and a teacher) despite it supposed to be about Cameron. Now Helluva Boss focusing entirely on Stolitz instead of I.M.P."

[felicjana050896]

A few words about Charlastor

Today I saw this post:

(Sorry, I can't post the link, Twitter doesn't want to work on my computer today :\ )

I will quote it here because it made me think again:

Currently, the closest person to Charlie is Vaggie, while Alastor invades her space, Vaggie and Alastor are opposed to each other, Vaggie wants to run a hotel for Charlie (her whole life is based on Charlie...), while Alastor has his own reasons (more on which later we don't fully know) and the two are portrayed as opposing forces pulling Charlie, Vaggie in one direction and Alastor in the other. Charlie's relationship with Alastor will deepen in future seasons (which the author wrote about, that Alastor and Charlie are the main characters of HH and what we see after the pilot), thus distancing it from Vaggie, which we see already in the first season (and what I wrote posts about ), that Charlie's relationship with Vaggie will surely deteriorate as it goes on, their quarrel over Vaggie's lie was, in my opinion, just the first glitch in their relationship (although not very well written in my opinion anyway), at some point in the story Charlie will had to choose between Vaggie and Alastor (and Niffty):

And considering the other screenshots, they are either forshadowings only to the fact that in future seasons Charlie will be getting closer to Alastor and away from Vaggie, or they may generally herald Alastor's victory over Vaggie, it depends, they are definitely confirmation that the further the seasons, the more Charlostor's content we will have than Chaggie's, the only question is which one will be the endgame?

Alastor stealing Charlie:

Significant bed scene, Vaggie wakes up without Charlie, alone, and Charlie is later in bed with Alastor on a heart-shaped pillow:

Besides, I read about Zoophobia and old sketches of Alastor and Autumn, and in my opinion Autumn reminds me a bit of Charlie... but in order.... First, let's go to Roo or Eve (if you prefer), well, I saw one Tik Tok and I definitely agree with it:

Charlie actually resembles Eve much more than Lilith, it always surprised me that Charlie has more father-like features both in appearance and character, and has none of Lilith's (especially when it comes to her ahem... physical qualities...), but I thought they just made her a typical "daddy's girl" and that's it... but if Eve is Charlie's mother and not Lilith..., we still had Lucifer's comment that he stole from Adam both wives, both Lilith and Eve, and although he married Lilith, he probably slept with Eve..., then the only question arises: why did Lilith decide to raise a child that was not her own?

Roo (Eve):

Charlie:

Lilith:

Lucifer:

Charlie and Eve (Roo) have exactly the same nose, the same lines under their eyes (Charlie in his demonic form has them) and the body sharp is the same, Lucifer by the way does not have a nose (:D), Lilith has a completely different nose, only Eve's nose matches Charlie's....

Moving on, we know that Alastor made a deal with someone, many people speculate that he made it with Lilith, but there are also people who believe that with Roo and I, although I also considered Lilith at the beginning, it was thrown in our faces this 7-year break (that Lilith has not been in Hell for 7 years and Alastor disappeared for 7 years), seems too obvious..., moreover, we know that Lilith had a contract with Adam (end of episode 8), and Adam did not know Alastor, so how could Alastor have an agreement with Lilith and be with her for these 7 years in heaven, if Adam didn't know him at all..., while Roo..., and this is where the issue of Zoophobia begins, i.e. Viv's first idea, where most of the HH characters came from:

In Zoophobia we had the so-called KayCee, i.e. chaos itself and the main antagonist, interestingly KayCee liked apples (a reference to Eve and her picking an apple from the Garden of Eden, the first sin?):

KayCee had white hair, horns, and the original Alastor was in love with her:

So KayCee is nothing other than the prototype of Eve.

Moving on, the original Alastor was also obsessed with Autumn, the character of Zoophobia, a blonde deer:

Autumn is a very helpful and good-hearted character and: ,,Although outwardly he appears mature and rational, in reality he is extremely insecure, suffering from low self-esteem. Autumn continues to seek recognition and thanks from others for a little help from him, showing that he needs the appreciation of others. Autumn is also very sensitive and short-tempered: in the webcomic, when Rusty teases him about the little antlers, Autumn explodes in anger and violently scolds him."

Doesn't this in some way resemble the description of Charlie..., a girl with a good heart, wanting to help everyone, and also sometimes quick-tempered (when, for example, heaven rejects her or when Susan pisses her off :D )

So we have Eve, who used to be KayCee, and Charlie, who has a lot of Autumn in her, and if it turns out that Charlie is actually Eve's daughter, Charlie will be a combination of KayCee and Autumn, considering her appearance and character traits are taken from both, two characters that the original Alastor was crazy about ;)

And finally, some shots of Charlie and Alastor:

And remember about Niffty and KeeKee, they are very important, after all they are in the HH logo :)

KeeKee, a pet belonging to Charlie and Niffty, Alastor's ,,pet" ;)

Sorry for the long post again, but I just can't keep it short :D

Thank you for reading and have a nice day, evening or night :)

[peachi-blossom]

Your posts about ZooPhobia made re-read the comic and Jesus Christ NOTHING in this series makes any damn sense

starting with Damian and Jack being cousins like your telling me Jack aunt got with Satan??? like how the (no pun intended) hell did she end up with the ruler of hell!? I really hate how viv just slapped that in without any explanation of how Jack is related to the son of Satan

then there’s Cameron phobia of animals being treated like some quirky fear like the poor woman is stuck in a world with talking animals but hey why should we care about the main character when we can focus on a bunch of side characters 🙄😒

also MacKenzie was giving me moxxie flashbacks because of course she is the loser punching bag who is weird and strange and doesn’t have any friends really gives off the vibes that viv was never the nice girl who likes to draw in class but was actually the mean girl in school

Yeah, she was never really good at building up explanations of her characters nor was she good at focusing on writing ONE story for the webcomic like any normal writer would do.

Oof for Cameron and MacKenzie.

Cameron is basically Pomni except she gets sidelined and her development is rushed.

MacKenzie has a unique design, but is turned into a punching bag.

So I found this on her ZoOphObiA DeviantArt account when she was 14 going through her edgy phase.

[s0nia246]

After looking at @pleasantspark 's post

I've been thinking about her old character from Zoophobia. Just looking at the ones I like in middle school.

Why were old designers more creative and didn't hurt my eyes.

Look at Magpie's hair 😍 😭😭😭 I loved looking at her as a kid. She's so beautiful

[kandy-sticks-zaza-blogs]

Mothelia Redesign

The Ex gf of Angelo and Arackniss.

She speaks Chinese and English.

She is Chinese because I don't see any Chinese representation.

Instead of Valentino it's Mothelia who would take his place.

Her voice claim is the Beret girl from Extremely Goofy movie.

I made her clothes and Hairstyles based off the 1940s.

A woman who died in the 1940s,She died by being burn alive while sleeping.

She is singer who moved to America because she is a famous singer from China.

Everyone calls her Mothelia is because her real name is hard to pronounce in Chinese.

When she first arrived at America she would think it’s a safe place to stay but she got arrested for killing her cheating boyfriend as the mob took her in and made her join the group so she would have revenge as she became the female boss getting up to the high ranks.

Mothelia became a moth sinner as she been a overlord for 30 years in hell living in the tower alone until she met Angelo in the 1970s as her heart flutter with love as they both fall inlove however it didn't last forever when she discovered that Angelo is a drug addict finding him in a high state mess and very messy as she broke up with him for being a terrible boyfriend Angelo is.

When she got broken up with Angelo she dated Angelo brother,Arackniss they both have in common as they dated for months but Arackniss father forced them to be distanced away from eachother as they never see eachother again.

She killed Valentino when he stole her money to distract her Mothelia came to the Vee’s Tower as she explained that she killed Valentino but Vox and Velvette are ecstatic that Valentino died that made Mothelia confused as Mothelia became one of the Vee’s new replacements for Valentino.

She finds him annoying when she first interacted thinking Vox would have a similar negative personality like her exes but Vox tries to persuade her as she finds him very amusing.

Vox falls in love with Mothelia liking her sly personality and her flirty demeanor,Mothelia finds him annoying thinking he is bribing her with money or company stuff but somehow flirts with him and Vox fell harder for her.

[palisman273]

Honestly, I want to give Viv a chance for one thing. Once both Hazbin and Helluva are over and she starts working on that promised Zoophobia reboot (please just make it a comic as to not create low payed animators) that Viv will surprise us by giving us something surprisingly decent, charming, and maybe even genuinely good.

I'm honestly praying for the Zoophobia reboot to be great so that Viv can say she actually created a genuinely good piece of work. She's a horrible human being as we've seen, but I'm hoping for her to get this right. It's a small chance she might, but I'm hoping for it, even as my cynical mind has soured on the Hellaverse and Viv as a whole

[pleasantspark]

AyyLmao Critic Post

My instance of Orbiter is different from the ones people use, I see Orbiters as people who defend and spend money on the person they defend. Not to sleep with them, to be clear.

I like it when AyyLmao proves he's a VivziePop Orbiter and poster when he makes this video and other calling it a masterpiece.

Reminder, Zoophobia is the origin of the infamous Addison Incident it's said that Zoophobia is written horribly which I do not actually deny. Going off by the title it's one of those:

"VivziePop did NOTHING WRONG!" defense videos that serve nothing and remains the same as any other content. AyyLmao produces Sloptent, he's a Slop Content Farm with no hobby other then to defend and defame victims of VivziePop. He conveniently removes any context of the other end or flatout remove comments in criticism of the show.

He's not a reliable news source for Viv and is content in harassing minors rewriting storylines then being biased. His content is specfically leaning on the Slop end of YouTube and contains nothing more of "Drama Posts", "Did You Knows" and "Updates to [blank] drama"

Now addressing the "Criticism vs Harassment" screenshot in the thumbnail, there's no clear difference to VivziePop as she sees all Criticism as Harassment. Even the good faith ones. She's so deluded and relies heavily on borderline rabid fans yes men statements to get her going.

This thumbnail is insanely misleading.

Now the title.

Once again SLOPCONTENT.

"Zoophobia: VivziePop's Failed Masterpiece"

reason why ZooPhobia failed was not because of what I assume has to be "harassment" but because of Viv's lack of interest in the story after pitching Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss. Zoophobia was already in the stages of decay before being sidelined by Hazbin entirely to even consider putting any more real effort.

Viv has not mentioned Zoophobia in years, she's completely forgotten about it, and her Nozz Account as well as not addressing any of the Addison concerns.

Something tells me in the video he's going to be like "Reason why Viv stopped Zoophobia was because of Harassment and Criticism as well as people like [Dollcreep] destroying the reputation of Viv."

Tbh. AyyLmao's Bias towards Viv is uncanny and barely even adds to the drama other than to monotize off drama his input does not add.

AyyLmao is a VivziePop Orbiter as with DaniDraws and DJBlitz.

VivziePop's "Masterpiece" Zoophobia didn't fail because of Criticism and Harassment, it failed because she refused to improve, and that is a fate that will befall Hazbin and Helluva Boss if she doesn't tighten the fuck up.

In order for your stories to thrive and have your work be praised, you have to take criticism and improve, refusal to do so only shows you're willing to not change, and in a decade or so, Hazbin will be merely forgotten and seen as a distant memory. There's a reason why old fandoms of obscure good media is considered obscure. It's because people or the people behind it refused to get with the times, and Viv refuses to take the incitive to better improve her content.

It's all on her once Helluva and Hazbin's views tanks and the only memory of it is the stans that refuse to change and move on from a dead show. There's already Stans being converted into Fans being converted into Former Fans that are jumping ship.

Furthermore, if you can't make content regarding Hazbin Hotel news without being biased (As News sources are OFTEN bias to both parties.) then you aren't a news source to be trusted. AyyLmao is one of these people.

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

Tim Burton, Jhonen Vasquez and Amy Winfrey writes gothic characters better than Vivziepoop.

[spooky-donut-ghost-house]

Me: "I wonder what the Zoophobia fandom is like?"

Me, after seeing what the Zoophobia fandom is like:

[death-limes]

*holding your hands* I am also an enormous hazbin hotel hater, that shit is rank 🤝🤝🤝

🤝 admittedly i’d say my relationship with it is more complicated than just straight-up “hater.” there’s a part of my brain that’s kind of obsessed with it? more specifically, with its potential? the nuggets of good that ARE there, if you squint? which is part of the reason i like edits that just allow a peek at What If This Shit Was Handed To A Competent Artist. also i simp for Alastor because i have very Basic taste

like the two edits i recently posted don’t come CLOSE to the kind of changes this shit would need to actually be quality, but at the very least i just wanna try removing the Jank yknow. and half of removing the Jank is just letTING THESE POOR CHARACTERS HAVE EARS GODDAMN IT

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

I saw you pointing out how Vivienne has not changed since the Zoophobia comic back then and after thinking about that, I can only agree.

She is still introducing way too many characters as if she really needed them all. More than half end up not even being relevant because she only wants to focus on her favorites. She only wants to show off her OCs.

Her character designs are still all over the place and do not make sense nor are they elaborated. Why is Angel a spider? No one knows. Why does Moxxie have those legs but no other imp does? When was there ever a connection between Lucifer and ducks in the Bible? Bible Lucifer was supposed to be the most beautiful angel in heaven before he was cast out. Is she saying ducks are the height of beauty?

She still can't commit to finishing anything. She never finished Zoophobia. Look at what happened with the empty promise that way Allison. Her shows feel so half-assed because she just doesn't fully commit to them and instead always wants to move on what SHE likes and the parts SHE wants to show. What's in between doesn't matter nor if the plots remain unresolved or even makes sense.

The fact that she already wants to make a spin-off for the Vs + has made Helluva Boss before Hazbin Hotel was actually out shows that she still cannot commit to anything. She doesn't want to commit to characters. She doesn't want to commit to her own stories. She doesn't want to commit to her own shows, no matter how "passionate" she is about them. Maybe she is passionate about the concept of them, about the concept of Hazbin Hotel. But absolutely not about the actual show.

I genuinely am baffled that YouTube Essay people who cover her hardly ever seem to focus on these really big issues. Her own issues as a person aside - sometimes it seems as if no one notices why her shows, specifically Hazbin, are so mid and or below that.

Hazbin Hotel is just another empty promise of her's. She promised rich characters and yet she needs to canonize the headcanons of her fans and comes up with things on the spot, even though she's had some of them for so long. She promised a mature cartoon for adults. But her idea of mature is the same as that of edgy teens and Jojo Siwa. She promised a story that critizes Christianity but the story itself doesn't seem to know what Christianity is half the time.

This. She really keeps on giving great promises and not following through. She seems she will go farther than she did with Zoophobia but in exchange flop hard in execution because she doesn't properly build anything up or focuses on her favorites at the detriment of other characters. Also again she can't commit to a premise to save her life and it devolves into madness. Also old criticisms of Vivziepop's work are always so familiar and her fans have been always so crappy.

[woomycritiques543]

Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Vivziepop sexualized Damian and is a shotacon?

It’s actually concerning how much people are ignoring this fact.

[jaydenknight]

Damian, recording: Story time!

Damian, approaching Tom: The young man sat there drinking his grape juice

Tom: Leave me alone, leave me alone!

Damian, pointing: I am your God, Thomas.

Tom, starting to run: NO LEAVE ME ALONE!

Damian, chasing him: YOU WILL BEND TO MY WILL!

[peachi-blossom]

Every backlash vivziepop she received she deserved that 100%. Imagine acting like teenager instead of actually an adult getting angry when someone criticize her work, tell her fanbase to bully that a person who give critique. Zoophobia she throw tantrum, Helluva boss she throw tantrum again, then hazbin hotel she give horrible response

Yeah, that's basically what she does ever since she started DeviantArt, then Tumblr, and then Twitter.

Here are some memes I made.

Vivienne Medrano when people are starting to realize that she is not a good person:

A sane fan when they are in the Vivziepop cult:

The Vivziepop cult when a sane fan gives out constructive criticism or when an innocent fan makes a redesign of the characters or when a veteran fan doesn't like how ZooPhobia, Hazbin Hotel, and Helluva Boss were written:

[vixxinn]

if u like this shit i’m automatically assuming you’re a zoophile