#anti-hazbin hotel

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

I Keep Thinking Back To This

Instead of immediately going to make Vaggie Charlie's girlfriend she stayed a friend and she ended up getting with Emily. Seriously, at this point Charlie has more chemistry with other characters than her goddamn love interest. You know it's funny the fact that people have issues when it's a male x female canon relationship that has no chemistry they call it a result forced so-called heterosexism but ignore it when it comes to canon LGBT couples. The problem isn't hetereosexuality, but the fact people forget to put chemistry in a relationship and assume it will wow an audience.

Seriously, people were saying that it was heteronormality the reason why people shipped Charlastor over Chaggie, but then Emily happened and it showed no it ain't being homophobic but the fact that the canon relationship has no chemistry written. You don't feel like their relationship is alive compared to how she interacts with Alastor and Emily. And I don't care how much the narrative tries to push the Alastor tries to be her daddy, because that just makes even more shippers.

I kind of now wish that kept Vaggie and Charlie as friends then introduce Emily in the first episodes as an ambassador from heaven who is at first infatuated with Charlie and wants to see her mission succeed. Like again she learns more about what is going on in hell and believes in Charlie's mission to make it better. Seriously, I don't know when Emily was created but this was a missed opportunity.

[let-me-be-an-egg-toast]

on my hater era guys 🤙🤙🤙🤙 fr

[virtuouswhitehatorganization]

Black Hat Would Totally Torch Hazbin Hotel's Lucifer

Seriously, it's bad enough that Hazbin Hotel's hell is just safe edgy, but the fact that once again a sin and supposedly the King Of Hell is soft wuss that's really not so bad. After Asmodeus and Beelzebub were shown to be okay figures, it really again shows that she can put as much swearing and sex jokes but still feel like this place is just red LA instead of fucking the place where the worse go. And (spoilers) the series tries to pull that bs that no one knows how anyone gets into heaven or hell when obviously that contradicts how hell is full of the worst people you can imagine. Again at one point I would think Hazbin's Lucifer would contend with Black Hat, but I say fuck it he would not have the balls to be an actual villain if he tried. Also I totally see Black Hat at first endorsing this version of Lucifer thinking he would rise and be evil, but then just face palm showing he's just that stupid misunderstood archetype he hates so much. He probably would get more interested in Adam since he actually acts more evil than Lucifer but still finds him a crude and vulgar.

[belowzion]

Once Again, the Premise Has Changed Drastically.

I was planning on watching this to see how it would turn out, even with the new shitty cast, animation and the badly written musical parts, but now that the premise has basically changed from trying to redeem the Scum of the Earth to "Darksiders, but without substance" I think this is my goodbye to the show.

I have been writing a complete rewrite of the Hellaverse with my friend. It started off as a small, fanficcy project and now, at this point, our version feels so different that we are thinking of completely redisgning all of the characters to make it our own. And I think I'll stick to that at this point.

Tell me if you'd like to hear more, it takes place in 1933, Hell is still advanced, 100 years ahead in terms of tech, Loona is 17 years old, newly adopted and VERY different in terms of character, the I.M.P are the ones that bring Alastor to Hell, Charlie and Lucifer have a wonky relationship, Vaggie is a sinner that is unable to let go of her "hazbin" (here the hazbin refers to ones life before the afterlife), Sinners are able to roam to all the different circles in Hell and Lucifer was a gardener. (God lied about him being his right hand man to make having his plans being foiled by a gardener sound less shameful.)

[rootbeergoddess]

So in 'discoure' today.

It turns out that Vivziepop still hasn't learned and uses voodou symbols in Hazbin Hotel. Also, apparently, Alastor is supposed to be mixed; he's part black so that just adds even more casual racism to the whole thing.

Voodou is a religion; it's not an aesthetic and a closed practice, meaning you're not allowed in unless given the go-ahead. Viv is not a practitioner of voodou and it's obvious she didn't even do the most basic of research. I wrote an article about Hazbin Hotel, and from the research I have done, the Loas will leave you alone if you're respectful. If you mess around and anger them, you're in trouble. Some woman burned a doll of Papa Legba, and a week later, she died.

Viv isn't just being insulting and racist, but she's being dangerous. And it's not like this is new; she has been told not to do this before.

I am so done with this woman.

[aishabellasbigblogofeverything]

All of the Hazbin Hotel characters’ designs are bad beyond belief but imo the icing on the sour cake is Alastor. Who the hell(no pun intended) thought this shit was fucking okay?

I mean just look at his ass:

Who tf looked at this and thought “yup, seems legit” what is going on with his silhouette? His hair? His face(which I’ll be getting back to later bc I mean OH GOD)? His outfit? 🤮 You expect me to be happy with this? Also why the hell is he so skinny? He makes the Disney Princesses look healthy and realistic in comparison, because damn.

And that’s not even getting into the sheer anti-Blackness that goes into his character and thus his design: him being an evil cannibalistic voodoo practitioner, with his Blackness slapped onto him as a less minute attempt to make his portrayal seem “not racist” well guess what BitchziePop, it is. The man is supposedly half-Black on his mother’s side, and yet he does NOT look Black at all. He does not have Black features, nor Afro-textured hair, what a goddamn JOKE. *he also does not have a Black/biracial voice actor. so much for diversity I suppose.

And don’t even get me started on that big ass, creepy ass, goofy ass grin:

Oh dear.

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Then this scene contradicts this notion and again shows why trying to make the Embodiment Of Lust neutered is a bad idea. If he's supposed to embody lust and hell shows it doesn't care about consent then it's bs just to make him into a softy boy big guy.

I like how Ozzie explained how lust should never be about force and it’s something that should be earned. He’d hate Val and everything he stands for.

[whencartoonsruletheworld]

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Well, This Could Have Been Utilized To Further Motivate Sinners To Go To heaven

Seriously, this could have emphasized why they should be able to change because they can be with their loved ones again and not have to dwell in this hellhole.

[autumnteawithfriends]

The Pinterest side of HH/HB slander is underrated

As a bonus, some GOATED comments

(NOTE! None of these were made by me and I cropped some images so stans don’t harass these people)

[kawaiitail-chan]

I saw this peak masterpiece in my fyp LMAO!

[bump-inthe-night]

Vivziepop fans claiming adding black features to her black characters would’ve made it “too difficult” to animate them is a hilarious excuse considering this is the same woman who had characters like these animated:

Another excuse fans have been using is that Vivziepop’s art style is “unsuitable” for black characters, despite her crew members proving otherwise: 

No art style is "unsuitable" for black characters because it's the artist's responsibility to learn how to draw them in their style. There's no excuse for black characters not looking black in your style.

Vivziepop could draw black features in her style but CHOSE not to, hence why none of the black characters look black outside their skin color, which sometimes they don't even have.

[hazshit-hotel-hater]

This is so fucking funny

[aishabellasbigblogofeverything]

Me.

does art school give people brain rot

[aishabellasbigblogofeverything]

TW: Blood/gore/murder/extreme violence/weapons

All I’m saying is that it’s very. Very. Curious. That despite Alastor canonically being a half-Black man who’s mother is Creole(normally I’d be happy that a biracial character who is Black on one side has a Black mother but in THIS show), the overwhelming majority of fanart draws him as white.

And obviously this isn’t to say that the fandom isn’t also to blame for this of course, since fandom already has a propensity to draw racially ambiguous/non-human characters as white by default and react with vitriol when somebody dares to draw them as Black(I even saw some people on the Hazbin Hotel subreddit trying to erase his Blackness and insist that he’s white, as if the show doesn’t do that already), but at the same time, it’s hard not to believe that many people genuinely don’t realize that Alastor is supposed to be half-Black. It’s ofc still not an excuse, but at the same time, you know you failed at making a Black character when nobody can tell that they are Black.

[80rosequartz08]

Here's some good Hazbin/Helluva critical videos I've seen (since it's so hard to find good ones on YT)

(Both are by GalXE!)

(Left one is by HezuReviews, right is by Autistic Swag!)

(Both are by Madeline Maye!)

(Both are by Cassidy Whiskey!)

Please go check these people out, all of them are extremely talented. Some of them even shared some insight and clever criticism into this series that I hadn't even thought of! (I especially like the Madeline Mayne ones as they poke into how both HB and HH fail at their queer representation.)